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Dr. J over at Idiotarian.com shows his talent and creativity with his PhotoShop.
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It’s All Down Hill From Here…
Dr. J over at Idiotarian.com shows his talent and creativity with his PhotoShop.
I just clicked the link to see the rest of them! He simply outdid himself — too cool!
HA!
Checked out the web site, he did a great job.
Hmmmmm…we might have to ban this person from the web site…
Hey everyone! Thanks for linking to idiotarian.com. I certainly appreciate the new and returning visitors, and the feedback on the photoshops. Peace (after victory).
Hey, I’ve got no problem with peace after victory — I can second that!
This would be much more clever were michael moore in any way involved with iraq or supportive of Hussein…
Well, he’s not supportive of Bush, and Bush is *definitely* against Hussein, so one can easily draw one’s own conclusions.
It is possible to be anti bush as well as anti Hussein. That is the position many find themselves in now. Moore has stated that he would like to see Hussein removed from power through means other than war.
Well, if he’s so sure it can be done, perhaps he should seriously consider putting all of the money he’s made where his mouth is (where there is *more* than enough room, I might add) and see if he can do so himself without getting laughed at or even killed. His ego is healthy enough I wouldn’t put it past him.
Otherwise, in my opinion he should put up and shut up.
Indeed…I agree with americangirl. He should put up or shut up.
17 resolutions later, an inept UN council, and nothing but lies by Saddam.
If war is not the answer in this situation than what is?
Military Coup! What I find odd is that the American government didn’t simply arrange a coup as it has on countless other occasions. No loss of American life, no international repercussions and very little investment on their part (a handful of CIA operatives, a bit of lucre for the military officers, a splash of blood and… job done!)
I suppose the only hole in this theory is that it has only worked when turning the army against a democratically elected government (Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Cuba 1961 [failed], Indonesia 1965, Iraq 1969, Chile 1973, El Salvador 1979, Guatemala 1983, Peru 1992 [failed], Venezuela 2002 [failed] – too long to list; these few are from memory.)
The other difficulty with a coup is that one can never guarantee its success. Should the military not gain full power, there’s room for other, wilder things to happen – like democracy. Imagine what that might have meant in 1991′s Iraq. Today’s hardliners all ask why America didn’t finish the job in ’91. Simple: if the Kurdish and Shi-ite forces had had American backup, they could have easily overthrown Saddam Hussein. Experts agree! Problem is, these folks, having lived as powerless minorities within Saddam’s Iraq, are rather independent-minded and – you guessed it – they live on top of the 80% of the country’s oil reserves. Imagine Washington’s headaches if the Kurds and Shiites had had the audacity to demand sovereignty – they’d have taken the oil with them! And rich, independent Kurds are a threat to Turkey (vital American ally in the region). Nope. It was just too risky. So America backed the f**k out until now, when there’s a chance of taking the country as a whole and ensuring that it stays that way. Sorry Kurds, but your dream of independence just isn’t part of the greater American dream. Better luck next time.
How can you use Christ’s name and use such language. In one of your posting you were quoting from the bible, why not practice what you preach. Also somewhere in the Bible says ” Help those who can not help themselves”
Okay, lets be serious, you cannot just give a nation democracy and expect it to work. There are many, especially Iraqi’s..who have no idea of the concept. Their view of government is not that it is owned by the people, but that it is a seperate entity from the people that controls them.
but… to listen to the government is to believe that “giving them democracy” is precisely why we invaded iraq. you’re saying this wont work? If not, we’re basically colonizing them….creating and maintaining the democracy that we want. I always thought that “by and for the people” meant those who actually live there.
To say that Iraqi’s have “no concept” of democracy, I would say, is a gross generalization.
Interestingly, when Mohamed Mossadegh became the first democratic leader of Iran in the 1950′s, he was soon removed from power by our CIA, who replaced him with an autocrat who’s oil policies were more U.S. friendly. Now, Iran is next on the list of the “axis of evil” powers. Will our next step be creating the government we want in that country as well?
Call me a skeptic, but I’m not too sure “democracy” is really the name of the game here…
Linda,
I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. My posting with regard to military coup was meant to be ironic. I am in no way, shape or form a supporter of military coups. I will also do my best to avoid strong language in the future.
And I agree with your sentiment that we should help those who cannot help themselves. Where we differ, I believe, is in our approach to this moral obligation. I do not think of military aggression as “helpful” no matter what its aims. We have incredible intelligence as a race, but seem to lack imagination and compassion when it comes to solving our problems. Nowhere is this more apparent than in foreign policy (particularly American).
Once all the “helping” is over, we’ve got to be very imaginative in our attempts to defuse the anger that is now building towards America around the world. That’s where normal folks can make a difference, I believe: holding the American administration to its promises, ensuring that the Iraqi, Afghan and Palestinian populations are given the aid they need and have the freedom to determine for themselves what form their government will take. And to allow these people full control over their natural resources.
Why do people think that we are going to just dump these people after the war. They are going to need help after to set up a goverment that works for them so we do not have to go through this again. I do agree that these people should have control over their oil since that is there major export. People fight and yell about this war, which does not make sense because we are not going to stop it. If we did that, we will be where we were at 12 years ago. And to diffuse the anger we need to start right here on our land. We all want peace, just because we support the war doesn’t mean we don’t. You often quote from the Bible, what about the crusades that were fought, they were for a purpose. We are all hoping for a end to this war. Quickly. Sometimes war is neccessary for peace.
On a purely technical level, the word “defuse” means to make less dangerous, tense, or hostile. “Diffuse”, on the other hand, means to extend over a wide area: circulate, disperse or disseminate. (Sorry, Linda, but my dad was an English teacher; I can’t help it!)
For my part, I am sceptical that the American government will do its best to help rebuild a fair and just society within Iraq – quite a task for anyone to attempt – because its track record is not very good in this area. I’m sure, by now, you’ve read any number of references to the puppet regimes in South East Asia, Central and South America, the Balkans, Africa and the Middle East. To be frank, American (and other western companies) have flourished in countries under the most despotic of regimes, because a tyrant is often much more open to coercion than an entire populace. Labour and environmental standards are fully negotiable in such an atmosphere. It’s a democratically elected leader who is more likely to stand up for the interests of his or her people in the face of multinational pressures. Ultimately, it’s less profitable to deal with a democratic government (look at all the wrangling between Canada and the States over the years. If it weren’t for our respective governments, someone would be getting the short end of the stick.)
oh yeah. About foreign aid: are you aware that virtually every western country’s foreign aid policy is designed not so much to aid, but to ensure contracts for that country’s businesses? I only learned this recently. In other words: Corporate Welfare. It’s a huge infusion of tax dollars into western business (much like a war, I might add).
Perhaps that doesn’t seem so wrong to you, but it does nothing to promote healthy business within the recovering country – their only role in the reconstruction of their land is to supply physical labour.
What’s more, the American government has announced plans to recoup half of the war’s cost through oil sales. I find that absolutely outrageous. Why should the Iraqis pay for an invasion that they did not, themselves, ask for; an invasion which will decimate their country, throw them into enormous debt and kill or injure a significant percentage of the population?
If I may jump in with my two cents towards your question, Linda, – people assume that we will “dump” the Iraqi’s once we have established a regime that is sufficiently US friendly because, frankly, that is the nature of the history of US involvement of this type.
The only country we can claim to have “turned” democratic is Panama, despite several attemps all over Latin America, and the world
Exactly $0 has been set aside from the federal budget in aid to afghanistan in 2003.
Lets hope this case will be different.
I am only 15 years old and even I know that a number of celebrities are unamerican, esspecially Michael Moore. I understand that there is freedom of speech but there is always a point where you know it has gone too far. I was shocked to hear him go on like he did on live television while only channels away there we people risking their lives for us and going to such lengths for our safety and the safety of others…Shame on you Moore.