Just Wondering

WHY DIDN’T TIM ROBBINS exercise his right of free speech to defend Senator Rick Santorum from the arrows and insults directed at him after he suggested that gay sex should not be protected by the Constitution? Doesn’t Robbins believe that the calls for the senator’s resignation are akin to McCarthyism, or that the chorus of boos will have a chilling effect on free expression? And why did Robbins’s “wife,” Susan Sarandon, not so long ago lead the calls for a boycott of Dr. Laura Schlessinger’s television show, when, as her entire family have been recently teaching us, free speech should come free of criticism and repercussions?

What have longtime Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer and his ideological soulmate across the pond, the Independent’s Robert Fisk, ever been right about? Having read both of them for years, I’m forced to ask: Was I out of town that week?

If the Motion Picture Academy’s own rules state that the Oscar for Best Documentary can go only to a non-fiction film, then why was Michael Moore voted the award for “Bowling for Columbine,” a film proven to contain as much fiction as fact? Considering how many lies Moore inserted into the film, why didn’t Rob Reiner deserve the Best Documentary Oscar two decades ago for “This Is Spinal Tap”? Indeed, why doesn’t Christopher Guest own two Best Documentary Oscars, for “Waiting for Guffman” and “Best in Show” (with a third in the works for “A Mighty Wind”), each of which contains more truth than Moore’s “Bowling”?

Why was the United States blamed for the way Iraqis looted Iraq and stole from an Iraqi museum? And where was Maxine Waters, demanding that we understand their rage?

This article brings up so many great questions – - I wonder if those like Robbins, Sarandon, Moore and the others will ever answer them. I seriously doubt it – - I suppose what is important here is that I know the answers…….. do you?

25 Comments.

  1. “I wonder if those like Robbins, Sarandon, Moore and the others will ever answer them.”

    if they wouldn’t answer them, it was simply because you would either claim their arguments to be lies like you do in the article OR because they know that they would be told to shut up anyway!

    and here’s a question for you (concerning looting):
    why were US marines protecting the ministry of oil in baghdad, but none of the hospitals which were looted and full of injured civilians who really NEEDED protection?

  2. They didn’t answer because, um, they’re hypocrites?

  3. Did I get it right?

  4. why were US marines protecting the ministry of oil in baghdad, but none of the hospitals which were looted and full of injured civilians who really NEEDED protection?

    Bush: Well, heuuuu, let’s not respond to this, because, heuu, we are fighting to free the oil for Iraqi people ! Cool yeah cool …

    … Yes I know what you are feeling M.Roggenbuck , on this site , when ever you put a good and perfect argument to open their eyes … you get bullsh*t responses or no responses at all

    I’m wondering if they just think we build up thoose arguments for plesure ??

  5. i’m going to start boycotting american bullets, as soon as i get a chance. it’s not as easy as you’d think though.

  6. i’m going to start boycotting american bullets, as soon as i get a chance. it’s not as easy as you’d think though.

  7. Steph & MRog(not insult, didn’t feel like typing all of that out)- Yes, our soldiers were protecting the oil fields and taking the bombs away from them that Saddam’s Regime wired into them. The museums and the hospitals weren’t protected, at first, because we had not gotten past the enemy fire yet. Don’t start calling names again. You not only take away from what you are saying but make yourself look silly. A gainful debate is fun, isn’t it choses, sandy, americangirl, supportiveamerican, Ted, etc. Our military was busy trying to protect civilians lives and getting rid of all the weapons, etc from areas so nobody would get hurt. Also, the site has been either slow or down all day, that is probably why you didn’t get any comments. It’s not “hypocrisy” it’s called a website that was illegally turned off.

  8. common
    I just have to say, that those people who oppose military forces being anywhere, sure are the first ones to point out what we WERE NOT doing. First, it was the museums, hospitals…how about this for a thought, it might sound crazy…
    the soldiers were protecting themselves….they were trying not to get shot! Maybe if some other countries would have sent in some soldiers of their own they could have protected certain areas a little better…the US and the UK as qualified as they are can’t do it all…

  9. Sandy- yep! Exactly what I was saying. I find it odd that people that oppose war sit back and find criticism with anything that is done. What aggravates me is the French, Russia, and Germany wanting to come in, right after we got to Baghdad. We hadn’t even secured everything yet. It’s like Blix wanting to get the UN involved again. They expected the US and UK to clean the mess up for them. Or…could it be that they didn’t want the US/UK to find the weapons, documents, etc. that were from their countries. I just hope that diplomatically the coalition can bring this to the UN and get some answers. Anybody that helped Iraq, under Saddam’s pink sheets, should be brought to justice, within the UN. I really don’t care too much for Blix either- he knew that the Iraqi’s were bugging their rooms, no wonder no WMD’s were found. Oh boy- I think we, as a country, need to start withdrawing our financial support in the unfriendly countries, i.e. France, Russia; and start investing in our own people.
    Doing okay still Sandy? I haven’t seen any posts from Choses lately- do enjoy debating him. God Bless

  10. Hiya common, doing great, thanks for asking. Jonas mentioned the other day that the US should resign from the UN, I’m starting to really put thought into that…I’m making my pros and cons list now..haha.
    I’ll be on later tonight…gotta feed my beast! (maybe she’ll want to spend the night w/someone and I can have computer all to myself all night)

  11. he common, this is the first time you give a constructing answer to one of our question :
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    The museums and the hospitals weren’t protected, at first, because we had not gotten past the enemy fire yet. Don’t start calling names again. You not only take away from what you are saying but make yourself look silly.

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    Ok, why don’t you wait for our answers first ? before stating we are silly, and you add “the museums” in our sentence … That makes us look silly ! … don’t you think from a first approach it could be incredible to protect money before dying humans ? Know if this is truth then I will say ok, If this is media, I stay carefull with this info :

    Pass the enemy fire ??? that shows the missinformation you have on CNN , sorry but this time it has been covered by enough journalists worldwide , I’m wondering (this is a question on which I do not have the answer) in belgium everybody has 30 internationnal chanels, In France they are underevolved ! people have maximum 5 chanels if they don’t pay a lot, non of it being internationnal , as far as I remember, when I was I child in america we had also something like 5 or 6 chanels , how many do most people have at home in US ?

    Steph.

  12. Mornin’ Steph
    You bring up a good poing about television channels, and international news. I myself only have 5 or 6 channels still (have not gotten cable, or else I would be a couch potato) I do take the time to look on the internet to read the international news and read from jounalists worldwide and what I’ve found is all papers account this war differently. There are conflicting statitics, opinions, facts…every article I’ve read is different. Back to the TV channels, there are plenty of satellite dishes on my street, I think most Americans do have alot of channels now, but don’t know their international news access.

  13. M.Roggenbuck
    In response to your question about the marines protecting oil fields…here’s a thought..
    We knew the risk of Saddams’ men to set fire to the oil wells. (Kuwait) Oil fires take years to extinguish and can cause terrible environmental pollution. Plus, I don’t think anyone predicted that Iraqis would loot their own hospitals. When the Berlin Wall came down, they didn’t loot their hospitals.

  14. lol,

    hy Sandy , you also made a point ! … should they loot their hospitals … :-) YES that would be weird , ! lol ,

    … I think it was more about “helping” hospitals before environment ! (and money)…

    Anyway, to share another funny one : when I hird on news that Bush was finding unfair that Iraqi soldiers were hiding in population … I faled down of my chair laughing ! I was keeping in mind the image of the three Iraqi forced- & starved-soldiers asked to put fluo shirts and stay in groups … So that they could be shooted more easily by the dozen hugely-armed-well-mourished americans … :-)

    Steph :-)

    ps: to others:
    I’m just laughing here ok so don’t give serious answer to this , thanks.

  15. steph
    this is off the subject of your posts, but I am trying to get a better understanding of current world views between Economists and Ecologists. I was wondering what your take is on an essay written by Malthus on the Principle of Population. Malthus, argued that it was in the very nature of things for human populations to rapidly outgrow their food supply until the numbers were cut back by various forms of misery, such as famine, war or disease. I read you were a Phd in Population Ecology and would like your educated opinion on this..thanks

  16. Well, Sandy, there is a diffrence, I believe, between us and most animals populations, to simplify, let’s say if everybody was aware of population ecology (Malthus being one of the stoneage father of this science… very good philosophic stoneage by the way) then there would be no problems because we have the ability to control our acts and so to limit population increase … and our behaviour toward food & energy supplies, which is much more important !! (because as I already said if all humans had the life habits of most people in rich countries, it would be desastrous for earth)

    in a scientifical point of view, we have different kind of strategies in plants and animals which are in tight relations; established by milion years of evolution & regulation by natural pressures (like desease, ressources aboundance, competition…) which all are balanced in a huge equilibrium … every exess being counterbalanced after a while by other species viruses or prions (natural “punishment”), or physical “punishment” like the lack of a ressource,

    Mankind humanity is something very new, compared to life on earth and it’s population genetics and equilibrium; (the whole system is of marvellous complexity;-), but still we are sharing 99,5% of DNA with primates like gorillas , so when looking to the population genetics and strategies of theses kind of organism, we learn that the population is made to stay in a stable state for extremly long periods, because of light natural pressures like deseases … In their natural habit gorillas have not so much to fear from competitions with birds or other species and they don’t have so much natural predators, so that they receved a light fecondity from natural evolution (one baby a year or less); in other words they do not fear the big natural “punishment”, which is the case for most insects (making thousands of eggs to insure …ten survivors that will make three happy exogame couples, out of which two will be eaten, one by frog and the other by a bird… so that, at the end the cycle goes on…)

    We, in a way were lucky not to feel like the grasshoper does (…wondering if he’s gonna make it for the next three seconds),

    but yes we are on a new slope, our population being growing like never, we are just begining our friendship whith the grasshopers… we are going straight to an ecological big “punnishment” senario, and because there’s no birds of eighty feets high, it will be competition between humans (famine and war) or natural pressure (epidemies)… war being the less convincing one because nowadays there is enough nuclear bombs on earth to destroy it NINE times entirely;

    I shoud look in my books but I think by the year 2150 earth population needs could reach the maximum ressource capacity (that’s for my baby niece’s children !)

    As one of my preferred humanist astronomer “Hubert Reeves” says :

    “next millenium will be “green” or will not be at all”

    I beleve in education and altruism, not in blind capitalism which will lead us to great competition for ressources and probably to the end of human kind.

    Steph.

  17. STeph- again, we haven’t connected on the subject. There was some name calling prior. You ask why I don’t wait for your answers: “… Yes I know what you are feeling M.Roggenbuck , on this site , when ever you put a good and perfect argument to open their eyes … you get bullsh*t responses or no responses at all” to quote you. I was attempting to respond to you. I again state, I do not watch CNN- I go to several newsites on the internet and read the different views- and yes, even different countries news sites. The museum thing- I added this because the US is being nailed left and right for allowing looting of the hospitals and the museum. That’s all. I still haven’t gotten to the article you refer to- but I will. Thanks

  18. Ok common. , Sorry for the missunderstanding.

    I’ll be looking for your next postings !

    Steph.

  19. steph
    Thanks for your insight and input. I’m still reading up on this, it’s very interesting. I’m seeing the different takes, especially between the economists and ecologists (as I mentioned earlier). There are some serious changes we need to make worldwide to accomodate this population growth. I’m frightened for my grandchildren and for the still developing countries, they do not have a handle on their birth rates it seems….if you could maybe suggest a few books I would appreciate it…thanks again.

  20. I think in our industrialised countries we have a big debt of humanism and understanding of human spirit … I could be talking for hours long of a book that just made some peacefull changes in my mind , … in some way it is not so far from ecology and I think we have a lot to learn of it , It’s about a talk between a professor of philosophy from french academy (!!) and his biology doctor son that went 12 years in thibet to learn about the monks, now he is one and he’s also the Dalai-Lama’s principal interpret (!!) … Anyway the book is not only about metaphisics and buddism (which I apreciate) but it is a journey in the biggests philosophers’s ideas meeting the ones of most wisdom monks of the last 6000 years … I’s a great teaching offered to manking, and it has great consequences in everyday life !

    http://www.religionreference.com/The_Monk_and_the_Philosopher_A_Father_and_Son_Discuss_the_Meaning_of_Life_0805211039.html

    If you don’t like this kind of books … just tell me your tastes , I will try to find something more apropriate,

    Steph.

  21. Thank you steph, much appreciated.
    I’ll check that one out.

  22. Steph- could you please resend that link of what I was going to read? I went to it, I think, couldn’t get anything but a foreign language. It would be appreciated.

  23. k’mon : here we go (enjoy the lecture):

    http://usgohome.free.fr/discussion/responsability_english.htm

    end of page … the rest is bullsh*t :-)

  24. Thanks Steph- will look it up.
    Ok- I looked it up. Who wrote this to Bush? In a lot of ways it was difficult to follow. Maybe I’m not looking at it in the right prospect. Thanks for reposting it. Talk at you later

  25. Steph, thanks for the link. I will try to find the time to read it. I have close to 1500 hardback books here in my house. You can never have too much to read. Go good with my Tao studies.