Did you know that World War II started in 1939? It’s true, it did. September 1, 1939 when Germany invaded Poland – that started it. And yet, my fourteen year old son comes home and tries to convince me that the war actually started in 1941. He tells me that the war started on December 7, 1941 – in reaction to the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
“The US is famous for knee-jerk reactions with acts of war, Mom,” he informs me. “Just like 9/11 – - the reaction to 9/11 was just screaming W-A-R..so we went to war with the first country we were able to.”
How we got into this discussion – I’m not entirely sure. Wait.. Yes, I do know. It was when he looked at me and said, “Hey Mom – did you know that George W. Bush is pushing to re-instate the draft? Do you still like him so much, now?”
Of course, discussion ensued. I wanted to know who filled his head with such ideas. George Bush wanting to re-instate the draft? Knee-jerk reactions after an attack on American soil? Going to war with the first country we were able to?
His Social Studies teacher.
Back to WWII for just a moment. What is it with the education system that they are teaching the kids that the war started the day the US was bombed? The war started well before that – as we all know. But what? It wasn’t an actual war until the US became militarily active? It was a full out war once the US got involved…leading one to believe that it was just a minor scuffle before we got there? We were the aggressors? The big bully on the block?
This isn’t the first time I’ve heard statements like these out of the mouth of my son — and it’s always this particular Social Studies teacher who is saying it.
Let’s see if I can remember some of the gems that I’ve had to re-educate my son about over the past year:
- Bush is pushing to re-instate the draft
- Bush said Saddam was responsible for 9/11
- Democrats embrace change and progress…Conservatives want us back in the days where women couldn’t vote
- Bush is using his office to seek revenge for all the wrongs done to his father
- Bush and all republicans are racist
- We shouldn’t buy that GMC Yukon that we’re picking up on Friday because it supports terrorists and ruins the environment
- Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction (big shock with that one)
That is just a handful of statements that I can pull off the top of my head that my son has spouted off to me over the past year. When I ask him where he heard these things…I expected him to say he saw it on the news, or read it in the paper…or even saw it on a website. I wasn’t expecting to hear him say that his Social Studies teacher is filling his head with liberal spin and lies almost everyday in school.
We talked long into the evening tonight about the statement: “There are ties between Saddam’s Regime and Al Qaeda” and how it differs from: “Saddam was responsible for 9/11″. Neither Bush, nor any member of his administration said he was responsible – - but the Al Qaeda ties are clear and proven. We talked long about not just accepting the information that is spoon fed to them in classrooms.
Am I the only one here? I can’t be the only one whose child comes home from school with liberal nonsense being shoveled into their heads by well-meaning, liberal teachers?
I’ve heard it said to me in the past, “Almost everyone in college is a liberal – they can hardly help it after years and years of being spoon fed liberal spin and agenda by liberal teachers and professors.”
I am beginning to see the truth in that statement every day when my son comes home and I ask, “How was your day?”
I have no children, but I have neices and nephews that have done this to me. Lisa, I sincerely hope you call to set a an appointment with the teacher, and “clarify” that your son “misunderstood” what the teacher has been saying. Then unload a conservative tongue lashing in the form of facts, and let the teacher know that you will expect to see the textbooks that this info is coming from!
Good grief! Just teach the class!
CONFRONT THE TEACHER.
NO POLITICAL PROPAGANDA TO BE TAUGHT AT SCHOOL.
I have a meeting with this teacher next week, Wednesday. He will get my…perspective.
As a father of two daughters, their teachers know that both myself and my wife are active in my children’s education. They all seem suprised at first when both Mom and Dad show up to parent/teacher conferences, but what suprises them even more is when Dad challenges them to help me eductcate my children better.
In the very least, those teachers know that if I heard my children spouting any politically agenda-ized idealogy (whether I agree with it or not) I would be at that school so quickly it would make their heads spin. Their job is to teach, not shape opinion.
Yes, confront the teacher, but do so with the principal. Put a stop to it, quickly. Threaten lawsuit if need be. This young mind is the most precious resource in the world, and we can’t afford to waste another.
Ted
Lisa,
Please don’t take this as me telling you how to raise your child, but as a fellow parent who is very concerned about this situation.
If I were you, I would not go in there with my Conservative hat on. Your political idealogy should not play into this discussion. What has to be communicated here is that you you feel it is not the teacher’s place to teach a political agenda to your child no matter if you agree wit what he is teaching or not.
Just 2 cents and some change,
Ted
Agreed, Lisa, you should absolutely confront both the teacher and the principal. Certainly address the issue with this “teacher” pushing off his political opinions as facts, but definitely hit them on the blurring of well-documented facts in history, such as the WWII start date you mention.
And we wonder why it’s said that kids aren’t doing well in school.
Itis for this exact reason that my wife and I are considering removing our child(ren) from the leftist indoctrination centers commonly called public schools.
No- there are still some excellant public schools out there, you just have to do your homework. We moved from my hometown simply becasue the school system has become so mis-managed I didn’t feel my childrens education was in good hands. I moved my family primarily becasue of this, and we have found a nice school system that actually cares about my children’s education.
Not all public schools are bad.
Ted
Extremely good advice, Ted – and thank you. I’m not going in there to sway this teachers opinions…just to sway him from attempting to from my sons (and the other kids in his classroom) to the liberal way of thinking.
Social Studies/History is made up of facts – - the kids have enough to process and learn as it is – without getting large doeses of this teachers opinons regarding those dates in history.
I do have one last idea Lisa- after this issue is resolved, e-mail the teacher a link to this site and invite him in for debate/discussion.
It’s proven he can keep up with 14 year olds, but how about some pe2ople with a bit more hostorical and political knowledge
Ted
Ted- you’re just full of ideas this morning, aren’t you?
Great idea!
Yeah….I’m full of something allright
Ted
This is the exact reason why I homeschool my kids… I let them form their own opinions but they have all the facts and I’m happy to say they like the conservative point of view… amen…
I am going to play devil’s advocate here for a moment.
What proof do you have that these ideas are being taught by the teacher as fact?
The teacher very well may say that their classroom is an open discussion of ideas and events taking place in the world today. Your son must have taken the wrong information from what other kids said in the class.
“I did correct when WII started and other factual inaccuracies,” he could say. “I am sorry that your son took the opinions of other students as facts.”
The point I am trying to make is that teachers deal with “crackpot” parents all the time.
( As an example, see here:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/paynter/174911_paynter26.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=1 )
You have to find a way to avoid having your concerns being lumped in with those of the crackpots.
Do you have a test where something some fact is marked incorrectly? Can you talk to another parent that may be like minded? (A united front is a better front.) Are there other students in your son’s class that is saying the same thing?
I agree with another poster that I would have the principal at the meeting as well. Even if your complaints are dismissed, the principal will know that s/he has a potential problem in the classroom.
Good luck.
If a teacher allows a student to leave their class with a the innacuracy of such a simplistic idea that WWII started when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and not previously without America’s involvement, then the teacher needs fired- plain an simple. They are responsible for the accuracy of what is taught in their classrooms. Political debate is another story, but this simpe fact does not involve political debate.
Also note that this has been happening over the period of the entire year. I’m sorry to sound dismissive, but your “devil’s advocate” approach just doesn’t cut the mustard.
Ted
I went to private college for my B.S. and my first M.S. and a public university for my second M.S., which I completed recently. Private or public, it doesn’t matter. The professors are so loopy left that it is sickening. I would look around at the young faces in the room idolizing and believing everything these “intellectuals” said and thought what a brainwashing. I tell you honestly, I would come to the first day of class, none of which had anything to do with religion, and the within the first ten minutes the professor would be slamming Christians for whatever reason. They hated Bush, Right Wing Republicans, Fox News and on and on and they weren’t afraid to tell all the students how they should think!It was sad. If you were an open-minded educated intellectual, it wouldn’t be possible for you to think otherwise. Only homosexuals, abortionists, environmentalists, PETA members and Democrats were open-minded!
I taught at the college level for 2 years (at a private so-called Christian college) as well and had to give that up because I could not deal with my coworkers that were so far left they were aliens to me.
My third grade daughter who attends a Christain school came home and told me her teacher had said some negative things about Bush, the war, told her Creation was false and so forth and I’m paying $3000 for to have a Christian education! I started fighting my own private war the moment my daughter was old enough to go to school and it has just started getting bloody. A few short years ago and things were soooooo different….
Okay ted, I’ll play along.
Assume that Lisa says “also note that this has been happening over the period of the entire year.”
The response of the school / teacher may very well be “then why have you waited this long to tell us about the wrong perceptions your son has taken away from this class?”
Or, “the innacuracy of such a simplistic idea that WWII started when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.”
The school may respond, “we taught that America’s involvement in the war began with the attack on Pearl Harbour.”
I am not saying that Lisa’s child is wrong in his perception of what is being taught. What I am saying is that the school and the teacher has several “outs” that Lisa should be prepared for.
As it stands right now, this is just one child that we know of that believes those inaccuracies. It will be easy for the school and the teacher to say the child is wrong.
Having another child out there that has the same impressions or a paper where facts are marked wrong gives more weight to one parent’s concerns.
People are often prepared for what they will say, but they also need to prepare for the responses of the people they are talking to.
Take care.
Isn’t it the teachers job to be listening to the “open” discussion and heading it towards fact and away from fiction?
‘Tis why I post such stuff here – you guys give me great things to think about.
gitcarver: Thanks for the devils advocate appraoch. I had already thought about it and fully plan on going into this meeting with an open mind. And you’re assuming, of course, that I’ve not ever brought it up to this particular teacher over the past year. I did once before – when my son had a conversation with him about his mother’s website. Back when it was Boycott Hollywood – - my son thought his teacher would appreciate it because they happened to be studying about the history of protesting – more particularly during the Vietnam years. This teacher had some not so nice comments that he made about my ‘little boycott effort’ (as he put it) and basically told my son that I was using my power to protest in all the wrong ways.
Our parent teacher conference wasn’t pleasant, at all, so this isn’t the first time that I’ve needed to address similar issues with the school. I did involve the Vice Principle last time, only because the Principle wasn’t available. So, it didn’t take me a full year to finally address these issues. It’s a repeat.
The school probably does look on me as a ‘crackpot’ – but that is only because I don’t agree with their policies and their way of educating children and assisting them towards becoming responsible young adults.
I’m very involved with my childrens education – - the teachers and aides and office workers know me by name and typically roll their eyes when they see me coming because I want to push them to be responsible educators, at least where my child is concerned.
BTW, the WWII question was on a quiz that they took in class last week. That is, according to my son – - you can bet I’ll be asking to see a copy of my sons completed quiz.
Thanks for the insight.
LisaS,
I really wish you success in this endeavor. I like to see parents that are involved in the education (both in school and out of school) of their children. Too many parents view school and etra-ciricular activities as “baby sitting.”
I have been in situations with “crack pot parents.” It is easy to become defensive. That is exactly what you don’t want the school to become.
Stick to the facts (which liberals hate) and things will work out.
Take care and let us know the result.
Lately in the news, there has been a rather interesting developing story about a local high school — a rather nice, sprawling one at that, I might add, all courtesy of the local tax dollars, of course — in which the students organized a protest against “re-segregation in high schools.”
First of all, just to clear things up a bit, this isn’t about “re-segregation” per se, so much as it is about the issue of having lesser-privileged kids that don’t necessarily live in the district bussed into the district (inner city, in other words), and the probability of already-high tax dollars having to be raised in order to continue this type of a system.
Thanks to the socialistic mindset enforced to these students, however, they don’t seem to see it that way. All they see is the “threat of diversity.”
I’d just think that, for all the tax going towards such a system, these students would get a far better education than spouting the importance of diversity. What about teaching these kids to utilize their own money and tax dollars rather than spouting the same old socialistic propoganda and living off of those tax dollars “just because”?
In conclusion, imo there’s a lot to be said for homeschooling.
Well, Lisa pretty much addressed the questions for me. Those are only “outs” if you allow them to be, and yopu have to be pretty weak minded to allow it. But I will say one thing: Any teacher who teaches that our involvement in WWII began with Peal Harbor should also be fired.
Ted
Wow.
#1, “Bush is pushing to re-instate the draft” — No, this may not be a “fact” per se, but if you don’t believe it to be true, you guys are really fooling yourselves. I mean, how are we going to proceed with VP Cheney’s future of “Decades of War” without a reinstatement of the draft? Common sense dictates it will be needed, because the “coalition” is getting a lot less “willing” day by day, and the US cannot go it alone with volunteer-only service.
2. “Bush said Saddam was responsible for 9/11″ — OK, that’s about the only thing he DIDN’T say about Saddam, but he certainly intimates it by saying Al-Queda and Irag have ties. I have yet to see any proof of this, but I agree I would be upset if my kid came home saying that Bush said Saddam was responsible.
#3. “Democrats embrace change and progress…Conservatives want us back in the days where women couldn’t vote” — I mean, really, can one of you actually prove this statement wrong? It may be opinion, but I challenge any of you to name ONE THING conservatives have done to help anyone in this nation since they stole the White House. Just one. And please, they only thing they have liberated in Iraq is many peoples of their arms and legs, homes, and dignity.
#3. “Bush is using his office to seek revenge for all the wrongs done to his father” — W was quoted as saying, “He tried to kill my Daddy!” I’m sorry, but this is quite obvious to me. People formally in the Administration claim Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq from DAY ONE. Need I say more?
5. “Bush and all republicans are racist” — OK, a little bit of a stretch, but not to far fromt he truth. Can you name one Democrat that stood in the way of civil rights in the past 50 years? Enough said.
#6. “We shouldn’t buy that GMC Yukon that we’re picking up on Friday because it supports terrorists and ruins the environment” — Supports terrorists? That’s about as believable as the commercials during the 2002 SuperBowl that wanted us to believe that if you buy a bag of pot from some Dead-head, you’re supporting terrorists. So I’ll agree that’s stupid. But the FACT that you SUV does ruin the environment? Fact. FACT. Look, I understand you won’t “look through the telescope” like Galileo’s oppressors when it comes to creationism vs. Evolution, but if you don’t believe that gas-guzzling S.U.V.s hurt the environment, then you’re just an ignoramus.
7. “Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction” — He wasn’t the only one. The whole administration lied. And let me tell you, people are pissed about it. Folks that were once for the war or on the fence are starting to come to their senses, realizing that they were lied to. And they are NOT HAPPY. SOme of these are people that don’t normally vote, but you can bet your “Schlock-Jock-hillbilly-heroin-addicted-conservative-talk-show-host” that they’ll be voting in November. This kind of thing makes Clinton look like JFK. I mean, really what’s worse, a lie about a blowjob, or a lie about Saddam Hussein’s nuke program?
Just one final note…
If you don’t like where public schoolsd are headed (and believe me, I agree that their going to the dogs), you can blame your Jesus W. Bush. Leave No Child Behind — well, maybe half of them, since we’ve cut the funding for that program by %50 since it’s implementation.
Wow is right.
#1 There are no plans by the military to reinstate the draft as all branches of the service have made their enlistment and re-enlistment goal.. But let’s look at the facts, as you say. The only people that have been bring up the draft are DEMOCRATS. Al Gore, Sharpton and others have all said it should be done.
#2 If you have yet to see any proof that there are ties between Saddam and al-Queda, then you haven’t been reading the news. Iraqi governmental memos have been found making the link absolute.
#3 First, get your facts straight. George Bush is the legally and rightfully elected president of the United States. The election was not stolen, although it nearly was by 6 Democratic Florida Supreme Court judges who decided to change election laws after the election. But as for things being done since the election….. 1) corporate prosecutions are up. 2) there are increases in education standards which are working 3) Pay for military people, although still dreadfully low, has gone up 4) Homeland security
The list goes on and on.
#3 (again – you have two #3′s) Yes you need to say more because you didn’t say anything of consequence to begin with.
#4 Name one?? I can name lots. Robert Byrd, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Mfume, The Congressional Black Caucus (who refused to allow JC Watts as a member).
These are the people that continue to use race as a dividing issue in this country and in doing so, are racists.
#6 If Yukons hurt the environment so badly, then why do the Kennedys and Kerrys of the Democratic party drive them? This is a classic case of the Democrats wanting to tell people what to do, but not following their own advice.
“We need to build alternative energy sources!!! Oh wait….. a wind turbine farm off of Nantucket? Where the winds are perfect and can supply all the energy needs of the island? But the half in silohuettes would ruin my view!! Get them out of here!!”
#7 Bush didn’t lie. That is the whole point. Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. We are seeing them come out now in shells and in Jordan. Tons and tons of documents have been found describing the weapons programs that were going on while the UN inspectors were being led around by the nose.
The people that lied about WMD and the programs in Iraq ar the French and Germans, who had sweetheart deals with Iraq, and the UN which was making billions of dollars off of the deaths and suffering of the Iraqi people.
JUst one final response to your final note, if I wanted to blame people for the destruction of the public schools, I would look at the people that are in them first. The NEA is one of the most destructive and obstructionist unions in the country. They care not one iota about teaching, education or the kids. The NEA is against teaching standards, performance standards, and voucher systems. All these things are hated by the Democrats as well.
Keep seeking the truth.
Truthseeker, keep seeking.
1: The only people in government who have been pushing to reinstate the draft are democrats who see it as an issue they can use to rally the american public. G-d knows they need something.
2: The WOT is against terrorists AND THE GOVERNMENTS THAT SHELTER AND / OR AID THEM. If Saddam’s government had ties with Al-Qaida, which has been proven, does this mean that Saddam was directly responsible for 9/11, obviously no. Does this mean that Saddam was aiding Al-Qaida, which is directly responsible for 9/11, yes.
Since you need proof of the link between Saddam and Al-Qaida (shows you don’t follow the news too closely), look here:
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=WT&p_theme=wt&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_text_search-0=Saddam%20AND%20IIS&s_dispstring=Saddam%20IIS%20AND%20date(03/19/2004%20to%2003/19/2004)&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date:B,E&p_text_date-0=03/19/2004%20to%2003/19/2004&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no
3: Democrats want to enact Socialist changes. Socialism is an ideology that is doomed to failure. The Soviet Union proved that. China’s capitalist reforms proves it. Democrats aren’t “Progressive”, they would rather regress to a social system that has been proven not to work.
As for “I challenge any of you to name ONE THING conservatives have done to help anyone in this nation since they stole the White House”. ONE THING: Tax cuts. SECOND THING: Increased Education spending to a level never before seen. And no-one “stole” the White House. You should review the following website for clairification on the “Bush stole Florida” meme.
http://www.geocities.com/floridavotecount/
4 (labelled as 3): Show me the link where Bush is quoted exactly as you claim. During the 2000 campaign, Bush said that he would deal with the problem in Iraq. To refresh your memory, we were in a perpetual cease fire that was contingent on Saddam proving he had eliminated all WMD (among other things). Bush was resolving before the election that he would bring the matter to a close one way or another. Frankly, I think resolving the problem, rather than continuing with the cease fire from Gulf War I, was the right thing to do. If you disagree, I’d be interested in hearing what your plan was for resolving that.
5: You don’t read Thomas Sowell, so I can’t assume you know anything about how affimative action is inherently racist. My suggestion is that you read what Mr. Sowell has to say on the subject. If Sowell has too many credentials for you, then visit Larry Elder’s website.
6: I don’t disagree with you on fuel economy. I leave out all the useless rhetoric when I talk about it though. I’m encouraged by the HEV SUV’s that are coming out. I still wouldn’t buy one of those overpriced trucks, but if someone else wants an SUV, those HEV SUV’s might be the way to go.
7: Bush Lied! Yup, just provide the link where it has been proven that Bush KNEW he was saying something that was clearly false. I seem to recall something about 3 litres of Sarin being found in Iraq. That must have been a fluke though, because BUSH LIED!!!!!!!!!
I do agree that people are pissed though. Not about Bush, but about rhetoric spouting idiots who tailor the information they spew in their so-called “objective” media outlets to their own agendas.
You’re just too fast for me Gitacarver
Truth seeker, what an apt name since you obviously don’t have any idea what the word truth means you should definitely continue to seek it out.
Anyway, your entire post was quite funny and for that I thank you. I haven’t read such entertaining fiction in quite a while. The best I can say about you is you seem to be either very gullible or quite confused. An example, you admit Bush has never said many of things you object to, but you “feel” they’re true therefore they must be. There are just so many major flaws like that in your “logic” it is just amazing. Your blatant arrogance and use of stereotypes while spouting this rhetoric only makes you look foolish. You failed to support a single “fact” or prove a single point, just filled your post with rants and raves about every conspiracy theory around! It was quite entertaining.
I’d like to debunk one in particular point about racism that many people get wrong:
“In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes. ”
[See http://www.congresslink.org/civil/essay.html and http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1982/3/82.03.04.x.html.
I’m not going to bother debunking global warming or fill you in on the many accomplishments Bush has made since being in office. You obviously have a closed mind in that regard and wouldn’t really care. However, if you really are interested in becoming a true seeker of truth I suggest you read up on the site debunkers.org It’s a good place to start.
I am confused? How can one prove an opinion?
Truthseeker, some friendly advice: if you wish to debate on this site you are goinf to have to change your posting style, I’m afraid. You can’t claim an opinion, and then prive it with “facts” for example. If so, it would not be opnion.
So in the futre- I challenge ou to post post these things, but doing so in a style that you are able to back your statements.
Ted
Nope — both of the Clintons were saying it, as was the magnificent flip-flopper himself John Kerry. Suddenly they’re all declaring that there were none, and they are calling Bush a liar without admitting their own responsibility and gullibility!!!
Funny how you don’t hear too much about that one…
Also, while there are many policies of Bush’s with which I don’t agree, not the least of which is immigration (I also wish he’d do a bit more about escalating oil prices, admittedly), I do not feel the state of public education can be blamed entirely on Bush. After all, is Bush quoted as saying “It takes a village to raise a child”? That’s the person I think should take the bulk of the blame, among others, and that is the type of mentality I find immensely disturbing — this consummately liberal, socialistic brainwashing of the young who are pretty much going to be taking on the world before we know it!!!
Truthseeker, i will let the others ”discuss” the validity of your other statements because i am not as quick with facts on those issues. But I ca speak about No Child Left Behind. As a teacher in a innercity school i am at the front lines of that issue!!! First, education funding has had it’s largest increases under President Bush! And according to the latest GAO report ALL mandates in NCLB are fully funded. ALll states are 100% funded. The states were given much more flexibility on how they spend their money and what do they ask for all this money. To strive to have as many students as possible reading at grade level?? the nerve of them. The lies put out by the liberals on NCLB are totoally irresponsible.
ANd i say this with my job getttting harder every day because of this law.
Truthseeker, i will let the others ”discuss” the validity of your other statements because i am not as quick with facts on those issues. But I ca speak about No Child Left Behind. As a teacher in a innercity school i am at the front lines of that issue!!! First, education funding has had it’s largest increases under President Bush! And according to the latest GAO report ALL mandates in NCLB are fully funded. ALll states are 100% funded. The states were given much more flexibility on how they spend their money and what do they ask for all this money. To strive to have as many students as possible reading at grade level?? the nerve of them. The lies put out by the liberals on NCLB are totoally irresponsible.
ANd i say this with my job getttting harder every day because of this law.
“Truthseeker” – I can’t say it any better than those who have come before me since your posting.
After reading your words, I am left to wonder if my sons Social Studies teacher finally did, in fact, find his pupil’s mother’s website and decided to post?
Ahhh…but you assume and did not ask, did you? My GMC Yukon XL runs on Ethanol, grasshopper.
No, “Truthseeker” – you prove that it’s right. I’m a woman. I’m a proud Conservative. I enjoy my right to vote – why would I want it back the way it was when someone like me wasn’t allowed to?
Thanks for playing, though.
Lisa- correct me if I am wrong, but did we not post on your site the day after Charlie Rangle(D NY) said he was going to creat the bill to reistate the draft, not because it was necessary, but because he wanted to make it harder for people to accept going to war, because the rich white kids would be called up?
Oh sure democrats embrace change, keep them on welfare as long as possible, that way they vote for us? Is that what he meant?
Somehow they have taken the sins of their past and heaped them all on George Bush! I figure it is only a matter of time before we drag out Social Security again…how they forget LBJ and Jimmy Carter and what the two did with it!
Oh my gosh, how I can relate to this post except it was MY social studies teacher who was giving me the liberal views. For some reason, he wanted to teach us about the Vietnam war, and I immediately woke up from my daily slumber because, being the daughter of a Vietnam Vet, I became very interested. He was giving me the same old story Kerry said, that all the soldiers committed war crimes, and blah blah blah. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I shot back at him asking if his father liked the weather in Canada and other stuff. This all happened a year ago, I can’t really remember.
And there is another social studies teacher who was saying the EXACT same things that your son was saying. Oh, and she has just about every book on “Bushisms” there are. I just want to let everyone know that not all kids (like me) are believing liberal views.
Its true it all started when germany invaded poland on sept 1st 1939 and then before you knew it the whole of europe was involed and eventualy the USA as well but that would take dec 7th 1941
Lisa, click on my name for a wonderful story about a high-school student’s protest against Liberal opinion in the classroom.
This (protestwarrior.com) is a good one for young people to debate the issues with each other – including those who embrace socialism, communism and liberalism – while older, experienced people (including vets) weigh in with their stories and clarification of assumptions.
The trend of education and mass media toward indoctrination of our youth into anti-American values is always a hotly-debated issue.
Your son would probably get a lot out of it, maybe most importantly, that a Conservative point of view is not as rare a thing as he might have been led to believe.
Truth-skewer says: “5. “Bush and all republicans are racist” — OK, a little bit of a stretch, but not to far fromt he truth. Can you name one Democrat that stood in the way of civil rights in the past 50 years? Enough said.”
how bout:
1. Robert C. Byrd D-W. Va.
“I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state …. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia …. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va …. I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities.” — Robert Byrd in letter to Klan Imperial Wizard Samuel Green of Atlanta, April 8, 1946.
May not be 50 years, but he is still a member of congress.
and how about:
2. J. Strom Thurmond:
He was the originator of the 1956 “Southern Manifesto” against the 1954 Supreme Court desegregation ruling. Thurmond holds the record for the longest filibuster in Senate history; he spoke against the 1957 civil rights bill for twenty-four hours, eighteen minutes.
that’s with in the 50 year limit you set… but believe me there are many more…