and you ever notice how much vile hateful things the left says like gore and his brown shirt comments, moveon.orgs hitler ads and the many many more..and yet Miller is hateful and it’s bad?

of course the double standard happens all the time, the 575 groups are bad for the right but ok for the left, the left can bring up an issue but if the right talks about it then they are running a negative mud slinging campaign (i’m thinking of kerry’s war record, he brought it, but it’s wrong for the right to question it or bring it up).

did anyoen see hardball with Miller after the speech? he didn’t let the host run over him like happens so much, he was in your face, he was not going to let him lead him around and try and trap him..i loved it.

of course the hardcore left are scared to death, a speech like this must be attacked quickly or they might lose a lot of voters, bush is ahead now and may get a huge bounce, kerry is in a hole he dug, miller is setting up the K.O punch..not a good time to be a kerry person!

Twenty years ago, as a candidate battling another liberal for the Democratic nomination for the Senate in Massachusetts Kerry advocated terminating many strategic and tactical weapons.

[Kerry 1984 Campaign Memo on Defense] In this 1984 campaign memo (which a Kerry spokesman confirms is genuine) the candidate called for cutting Ronald Reagan’s military budget by between $45 billion and $53 billion through (among other things) cancellation of the MX missile, B-1 bomber, anti-satellite weapons, and the “Star Wars” anti-missile program, along with several conventional weapons that have become mainstays of the present-day military, including the AH-64 Apache helicopter, the Aegis air-defense cruiser, and the F-14 and F-15 fighters. He also called for a 50% reduction in the Tomahawk cruise missile.

And during the same campaign, according to the Boston Globe, Kerry also advocated reductions in the M-1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle and the F-16 jet.

“No Excuse”

“There’s no excuse for casting even one vote for unnecessary weapons of destruction, and as your senator I will never do so,” Kerry said in the memo.

In 1985, Kerry’s first speech in the Senate was against President Reagan’s proposal to build MX ballistic missiles, and also in 1985 he introduced a “nuclear freeze” resolution calling on the President to negotiate a “verifiable” halt to testing, production and deployment of nuclear weapons. It attracted no co-sponsors and died without a hearing in committee.

Throughout Kerry’s early Senate years he often voted against specific weapons systems and sometimes against the entire Pentagon budget. He voted repeatedly to cancel the B-2 Stealth bomber, for example, in 1989 , 1991 (twice ) and 1992 . He voted against the Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missile in 1994 and 1995. And he voted repeatedly to cut funds for the Strategic Defense Initiative (ballistic missile defense) in 1991, 1992, 1993 , 1995, and 1996. He also voted for across-the-board cuts in the military budget in 1991 and 1992, as Congress struggled to deal with mounting federal deficits and the former Soviet Union disintegrated.

Republicans shouldn’t make too much of these votes, however, since President Bush’s own father announced in his 1992 State of the Union address that he would be ceasing further production of B-2 bombers and MX missiles, and would cut military spending by 30 percent over several years.

Voting Against M-1 Tanks? Not Really.

And Republicans go too far when they claim that Kerry voted against such mainstay weapons of today’s military as the M-1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, and the Patriot missile. (See this Republican National Committee “fact sheet,” for example.) These claims are misleading because they rest on Kerry’s votes against the entire Pentagon appropriations bills in 1990 and 1995. Kerry also voted against the Pentagon authorization bills (which provide authority to spend but not the actual money) in those years and also in 1996. But none of those were votes against specific weapons systems. Kerry’s critics might just as well say he was voting to fire the entire Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.

It is true as Republicans say that in 1993 (Bill Clinton’s first year as President) Kerry specifically proposed cutting the size of the military, including reductions in numbers of submarines, jet fighters and soldiers. But what Republicans fail to mention is that it was a very broad measure aimed at cutting federal spending by $85 billion at a time when the federal deficit was roughly $300 billion. Kerry’s measure — the “Budget Deficit Reduction Act of 1993″ — targeted not only military spending but also would have eliminated federal subsidies for cotton, wool and mohair production, eliminated the superconducting super collider and the space station, and raised fees for grazing or mining on public land. That bill died without a hearing in the Senate Finance Committee.

It is also true that Kerry proposed in 1995 another measure that — among other things — would have cut the US intelligence budget by $300 million per year for 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000. Republicans fail to mention, however, that this was another broad, deficit-reduction measure that didn’t just target military spending. When he introduced it Sept. 29, 1995, Kerry said it would cut $90 billion in federal spending, of which $10 billion would come from defense spending, and $11 billion from terminating the international space station program.

Republicans also point to a 1996 bill Kerry introduced to cut $6.5 billion from defense spending. What Kerry’s critics fail to mention is that Kerry proposed to use the money to hire an additional 100,000 police officers (above the 100,000 President Clinton already was proposing to fund.) Kerry called it the Safer Streets Act of 1996.

Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, in a telephone conference call with reporters arranged by the Bush campaign Feb 21, went way over the top when he accused Kerry of “a 32-year history of voting to cut defense programs and cut defense systems.” That’s not possible since Kerry’s first vote was cast in 1985. It also implies that Kerry has continued to vote for cuts over his entire career, which isn’t true.

A “New Kerry?”

Since 1996, the John Kerry who once opposed the Apache helicopter and wanted to cut Tomahawk cruise-missile funds by 50% has evolved into a steady supporter of military budgets. Starting in 1997 Kerry voted for every regular Department of Defense appropriations bill and for every authorization bill as well.

My boss was telling me about some panel MSNBC put together to watch the speech. He said 11 of the 17 said they changed their vote to Bush after Miller’s speech.