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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17723</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok dg, so if Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq, then why didn&#039;t Iraq settle this problem &quot;diplomatically&quot; rather than just invading?  Seems you have another double standard.  Also, Bush didn&#039;t start the problems in the middle east.  He&#039;s just trying to clean up after all that came before him.  And no, he is NOT taking advantage of my friend&#039;s patriotism.  They donate their freedoms and patriotism freely.  It&#039;s called freedom of speech.  Maybe you&#039;ve heard of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok dg, so if Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq, then why didn&#8217;t Iraq settle this problem &#8220;diplomatically&#8221; rather than just invading?  Seems you have another double standard.  Also, Bush didn&#8217;t start the problems in the middle east.  He&#8217;s just trying to clean up after all that came before him.  And no, he is NOT taking advantage of my friend&#8217;s patriotism.  They donate their freedoms and patriotism freely.  It&#8217;s called freedom of speech.  Maybe you&#8217;ve heard of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17698</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Draft?  I honestly don&#039;t see that ever happening..alot of military jobs now are so specialized that it would take too long to train them only to let them get released in 2 to 3 yrs..my husbands&#039; tech school was a year long and that was years ago.  The Draft just ain&#039;t gonna work anymore..you can&#039;t go to Basic training for 8wks, than just show up at a base or Iraq and now what you&#039;re doing..systems are hi-tech now..no longer the days of &quot;On the Job Training.&quot;  Don&#039;t worry dg..I doubt you&#039;ll send a love one off at the train station against their will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Draft?  I honestly don&#8217;t see that ever happening..alot of military jobs now are so specialized that it would take too long to train them only to let them get released in 2 to 3 yrs..my husbands&#8217; tech school was a year long and that was years ago.  The Draft just ain&#8217;t gonna work anymore..you can&#8217;t go to Basic training for 8wks, than just show up at a base or Iraq and now what you&#8217;re doing..systems are hi-tech now..no longer the days of &#8220;On the Job Training.&#8221;  Don&#8217;t worry dg..I doubt you&#8217;ll send a love one off at the train station against their will.</p>
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		<title>By: peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17687</link>
		<dc:creator>peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will rank that about 3rd dumb:roll:est posts for dg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will rank that about 3rd dumb:roll:est posts for dg</p>
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		<title>By: dg</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17674</link>
		<dc:creator>dg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame George Bush for your friend&#039;s  decision to join and I, too admire the troops on the ground.

I blame Bush for HIS decision!! The President is taking advantage of their patriotism!

The evidence is that a lot of people have died and will continue to die -- unnecessarily -- because Bush clearly failed to defend us on 9/11, and pushed, exaggerated, even fabricated &quot;evidence&quot; of Saddam&#039;s quest for WMD!

The Bush family has close relations with the Saudi&#039;s and have received financing from members of the bin Laden family.

During the Reagan Administration, Bush41, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Pearle played both sides of the Iran-Iraq War while giving ample support to Saddam Huessein -- even as Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran and filled mass graves in his own country. Now they tell us what a monster he is. A monster they created!

When Reagan sold weapons to Iranian terrorists in the mid 80&#039;s, how do you think Saddam felt? After Rumsfeld HIMSELF told Saddam TO HIS FACE that Iraq had the full support of the US and WOULD NOT SELL WEAPONS TO IRAN? (Iran held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days in 1979-80).

And don&#039;t forget: Gulf War I began when oil companies in Kuwait were slant drilling into Iraq, effectively stealing Iraqi oil. One of the Companies was Arbusto/Harken, the same one Salem bin Laden financed for Bush. Bush sold his shares in the company two weeks prior to Iraq&#039;s invasion of Kuwait.

Did you know Bush was negotiating with the Taliban prior to 9/11? 

But it wasn&#039;t about terrorism. It was about building an oil pipeline through Afgahnistan!

Now, we are at war with these very same players. Frankensteins, created by the facist wing of the Bush Admin.

You don&#039;t feel betrayed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame George Bush for your friend&#8217;s  decision to join and I, too admire the troops on the ground.</p>
<p>I blame Bush for HIS decision!! The President is taking advantage of their patriotism!</p>
<p>The evidence is that a lot of people have died and will continue to die &#8212; unnecessarily &#8212; because Bush clearly failed to defend us on 9/11, and pushed, exaggerated, even fabricated &#8220;evidence&#8221; of Saddam&#8217;s quest for WMD!</p>
<p>The Bush family has close relations with the Saudi&#8217;s and have received financing from members of the bin Laden family.</p>
<p>During the Reagan Administration, Bush41, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Pearle played both sides of the Iran-Iraq War while giving ample support to Saddam Huessein &#8212; even as Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran and filled mass graves in his own country. Now they tell us what a monster he is. A monster they created!</p>
<p>When Reagan sold weapons to Iranian terrorists in the mid 80&#8242;s, how do you think Saddam felt? After Rumsfeld HIMSELF told Saddam TO HIS FACE that Iraq had the full support of the US and WOULD NOT SELL WEAPONS TO IRAN? (Iran held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days in 1979-80).</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget: Gulf War I began when oil companies in Kuwait were slant drilling into Iraq, effectively stealing Iraqi oil. One of the Companies was Arbusto/Harken, the same one Salem bin Laden financed for Bush. Bush sold his shares in the company two weeks prior to Iraq&#8217;s invasion of Kuwait.</p>
<p>Did you know Bush was negotiating with the Taliban prior to 9/11? </p>
<p>But it wasn&#8217;t about terrorism. It was about building an oil pipeline through Afgahnistan!</p>
<p>Now, we are at war with these very same players. Frankensteins, created by the facist wing of the Bush Admin.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t feel betrayed?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17671</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a bit of information dg.... I have 2 friends that signed up for the military this last February.  They signed up AFTER the start of the war in Iraq.  They signed up AFTER the start of the insurgency in Iraq.  They signed up KNOWING that they could very well GO to Iraq.  Regardless, they signed up because they wanted to make a difference.  They wanted to help the people of Iraq get their country back on its feet.  They didn&#039;t sign up because they had to.  George Bush didn&#039;t make them.  Their parents didn&#039;t make them.  Their parents are probably scared out of thier minds, but they respect their decisions and support them 100%.  One of them is scheduled to depart for Iraq this November.  I pray for his safety, and if something happens to him, I will still honor his decision, his memory, and his compasion for humanity.  I will not blame George Bush for his decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a bit of information dg&#8230;. I have 2 friends that signed up for the military this last February.  They signed up AFTER the start of the war in Iraq.  They signed up AFTER the start of the insurgency in Iraq.  They signed up KNOWING that they could very well GO to Iraq.  Regardless, they signed up because they wanted to make a difference.  They wanted to help the people of Iraq get their country back on its feet.  They didn&#8217;t sign up because they had to.  George Bush didn&#8217;t make them.  Their parents didn&#8217;t make them.  Their parents are probably scared out of thier minds, but they respect their decisions and support them 100%.  One of them is scheduled to depart for Iraq this November.  I pray for his safety, and if something happens to him, I will still honor his decision, his memory, and his compasion for humanity.  I will not blame George Bush for his decision.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17616</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;once and for all – we’re not nazis, we’re communists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, that&#039;s a lot better. :roll:  To me, that&#039;s like saying, &quot;I didn&#039;t say I admired Ted Bundy -- I said I admired Jeffrey Daumer.&quot; :roll:  In other words, you&#039;re simply trading one butcher for another.

As for the comparisons between the Nazis and libs, I have two very good reasons:

1) The phrase &quot;Nazi&quot; is short for the phrase &quot;National &lt;i&gt;Socialist&lt;/i&gt; Party.&quot;  That&#039;s right -- they were &lt;b&gt;socialists&lt;/b&gt;, a fact that most libs seem to forget.

2) Much like the Nazis, libs are quite fond of propoganda, and seldom allow the truth to stand in the way of whatever image they&#039;re trying to create.  Once you get down to it, is there &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; much of a difference between the work of Michael Moore and Leni Riefenstahl?

Now there &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; a way to prove me wrong about my theories, though I somehow doubt that you are up to it.  Rather than throwing as many four-letter words as you can think of at me in a desperate attempt at deflection (or as many as seem to be allowed by the administration, I might add), or only reinforcing my point through the same tired arguments, you &lt;b&gt;could&lt;/b&gt; try thinking of all of this on your own, and coming to your &lt;b&gt;own&lt;/b&gt; conclusions rather than quoting the likes of Michael Moore and Dan Rather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>once and for all – we’re not nazis, we’re communists.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s a lot better. <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   To me, that&#8217;s like saying, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t say I admired Ted Bundy &#8212; I said I admired Jeffrey Daumer.&#8221; <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   In other words, you&#8217;re simply trading one butcher for another.</p>
<p>As for the comparisons between the Nazis and libs, I have two very good reasons:</p>
<p>1) The phrase &#8220;Nazi&#8221; is short for the phrase &#8220;National <i>Socialist</i> Party.&#8221;  That&#8217;s right &#8212; they were <b>socialists</b>, a fact that most libs seem to forget.</p>
<p>2) Much like the Nazis, libs are quite fond of propoganda, and seldom allow the truth to stand in the way of whatever image they&#8217;re trying to create.  Once you get down to it, is there <b>really</b> much of a difference between the work of Michael Moore and Leni Riefenstahl?</p>
<p>Now there <b>is</b> a way to prove me wrong about my theories, though I somehow doubt that you are up to it.  Rather than throwing as many four-letter words as you can think of at me in a desperate attempt at deflection (or as many as seem to be allowed by the administration, I might add), or only reinforcing my point through the same tired arguments, you <b>could</b> try thinking of all of this on your own, and coming to your <b>own</b> conclusions rather than quoting the likes of Michael Moore and Dan Rather.</p>
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		<title>By: Rat</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17600</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mistake patriotism for blind niavety. If John Kerry was a stand up guy who promised to see this war through to the end then my pick for Commander in Chief might be a little tougher. I however see none of those qualities in the man. I&#039;m also having trouble with the analogy that Iraq was innocent by-stander on the terrorism playing field. Possibly there is a better qualified candidate out there, but he doesn&#039;t have the nuts to stand up and run. So I&#039;ll take Bush&#039;s Teddy Roosevelt like tenacity over Kerry&#039;s own indecisiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mistake patriotism for blind niavety. If John Kerry was a stand up guy who promised to see this war through to the end then my pick for Commander in Chief might be a little tougher. I however see none of those qualities in the man. I&#8217;m also having trouble with the analogy that Iraq was innocent by-stander on the terrorism playing field. Possibly there is a better qualified candidate out there, but he doesn&#8217;t have the nuts to stand up and run. So I&#8217;ll take Bush&#8217;s Teddy Roosevelt like tenacity over Kerry&#8217;s own indecisiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: dg</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17592</link>
		<dc:creator>dg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Yet the simple beauty of their sacrifice gets lost to some of the civilian population.&quot;

I believe our soldiers believe they are doing the right thing. They are doing their job the way they were trained to do it.

It is their President who has taken advantage of their patriotism.

if you owned a lumber company and you were paid to clear cut hill A but you send your crew out to clearcut hill B, your crew may have done their job, but because you made a mistake someone is going  to pay.

In Iraq, that someone is our children.

If Bush gets re-elected there will be a draft. Then there will be an overwhelming outcry against the war in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Yet the simple beauty of their sacrifice gets lost to some of the civilian population.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe our soldiers believe they are doing the right thing. They are doing their job the way they were trained to do it.</p>
<p>It is their President who has taken advantage of their patriotism.</p>
<p>if you owned a lumber company and you were paid to clear cut hill A but you send your crew out to clearcut hill B, your crew may have done their job, but because you made a mistake someone is going  to pay.</p>
<p>In Iraq, that someone is our children.</p>
<p>If Bush gets re-elected there will be a draft. Then there will be an overwhelming outcry against the war in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Rat</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17589</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Canadian obviously doesn&#039;t know much about the loyalty and patriotism of the majority of the US Military. You see, we&#039;re volunteers. Bush did not kill any of those young men. Some were very close to me, so I took that comment rather personal. I believe that it belittles the true reason they gave the last full measure. They died so America can continue to be safe. They died keeping the terrorists busy so they couldn&#039;t attack American soil again. They gave everything they had so that American civilians could continue to live their lives uninterrupted. Yet the simple beauty of their sacrifice gets lost to some of the civilian population. People who have never lived a life of service cannot understand the real reason these young men spill their blood in a foreign land. I believe most will never appreciate what they have unless they&#039;ve tried in vain to stop that blood from pouring out of their friend. It would be so nice if people knew the truth, but you cannot impress the truth in a political discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Canadian obviously doesn&#8217;t know much about the loyalty and patriotism of the majority of the US Military. You see, we&#8217;re volunteers. Bush did not kill any of those young men. Some were very close to me, so I took that comment rather personal. I believe that it belittles the true reason they gave the last full measure. They died so America can continue to be safe. They died keeping the terrorists busy so they couldn&#8217;t attack American soil again. They gave everything they had so that American civilians could continue to live their lives uninterrupted. Yet the simple beauty of their sacrifice gets lost to some of the civilian population. People who have never lived a life of service cannot understand the real reason these young men spill their blood in a foreign land. I believe most will never appreciate what they have unless they&#8217;ve tried in vain to stop that blood from pouring out of their friend. It would be so nice if people knew the truth, but you cannot impress the truth in a political discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2004/09/10/forged/comment-page-2/#comment-17584</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to #57 and 58, Thank you Lisa.  I like to check in when at work also.  I didn&#039;t think it was a crime.  In fact, I am sure my employer would back me.  AZ is going to BUSH THIS YEAR!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to #57 and 58, Thank you Lisa.  I like to check in when at work also.  I didn&#8217;t think it was a crime.  In fact, I am sure my employer would back me.  AZ is going to BUSH THIS YEAR!!!</p>
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