Earlier this week, we posted the following.
Seems this is a story that will never end:
Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein’s weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
Russia? Oh, say it isn’t so! And yet . .
Defense officials said the Russians can provide information on what happened to the Iraqi weapons and explosives that were transported out of the country. Officials believe the Russians also can explain what happened to Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs
Oh really? I guess the volley is back in the Kerry court with this one. His campaign has stretched the truth so far – it has snapped. ABC News has now reported that there were only THREE tons of RDX, according to IAEA reports:
The information on which the Iraqi Science Ministry based an Oct. 10 memo in which it reported that 377 tons of RDX explosives were missing ” presumably stolen due to a lack of security ” was based on “declaration” from July 15, 2002. At that time, the Iraqis said there were 141 tons of RDX explosives at the facility.
But the confidential IAEA documents obtained by ABC News show that on Jan. 14, 2003, the agency’s inspectors recorded that just over 3 tons of RDX was stored at the facility ” a considerable discrepancy from what the Iraqis reported.
The IAEA documents could mean that 138 tons of explosives were removed from the facility long before the start of the United States launched “Operation Iraqi Freedom” in March 2003.
How did 3 tons become 380? What kind of fuzzy math is that?
Why is Senator Kerry still running with this? He is stretching this thing as long as he can in order to discredit to the administration – if I were a Kerry supporter, I would be embarassed., nay – OUTRAGED!
How will Senator Kerry pivot from blaming the US military to blaming the Russians.? And will he? Or will he continue to IGNORE the facts, as they unfold? The United States CANNOT afford to have a Commander in Chief sitting in office who is so EASILY sucked in by headlines in the main stream media! This topic has taken up so much time during the last week heading into the elections – - it has wasted the time of the American people.
“You didn’t guard the ammunitions dump – and now our troops are at greater risk. The President, The Commander in Cheif is not doing his job.” – Senator John Kerry, as early as 6am this morning.
Kerry’s top foreign policy advisor is quoted as saying, “We don’t really know the facts.” John Kerry is making accusations about the President, and decisions about the troops without knowing the facts. This is the man to be in the Oval Office? I don’t think so.
Kerry is impulsive and doesn’t gather all the facts to make good decisions. Kerry reacts to headlines. It shows that Kerry shoots off his mouth before thinking.
Once again, I ask – is THIS is one of those countries . . . one of those members of the United Nations Security Council, that Senator John Kerry wants permission from before we take action to defend our country?
Hugh Hewitt sums it up:
JOHN KERRY now closes his presidential campaign exactly as he opened his political life: Attacking the United States military. Thirty-three years ago, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he indicted the soldiers of Vietnam as war criminals, the heirs of Genghis Khan. This week he embraced an already discredited account of missing munitions to attack the reputation of the 3rd Infantry Division and the 101st Airborne…
Once again, I state – No thank you, Senator Kerry!
Related:
Saddam’s WMD have been found
Iraqi Weapons in Syria
Russia Tied to Iraqi Missing Arms
The Times ‘Explosive’ Article Could Backfire
The Myth of the “Missing Explosives”: A Shameless Lie
The Commander-in-Chief
Discrepancy Found in Explosives Amounts
Commander Says Unlikely Large-Scale Removal of Explosives Occurred After U.S. Invasion
Russian troops linked to missing Iraqi explosives
g’nite Ellis
148 – sincere in your opinion. not sweet, though.
146 – darlin, i think you’re great. what other woman could i possibly have this kind of relationship with on this site?
besides the moderaters, who have to remain moderate, every other woman here hates me. most of the guys, too. (but i don’t care about them)
151 – retire your guy and my sweetness will flow like an artesian well in the Sinai.
i don’t have a hateful bone in my body – what’s the point. besides, remember, i am a compassionate conservative.
and peejz has a little piece in her heart for you too, it would seem.
i’ll become the very voice of moderation and compromise in a Kerry presidency.
patiently showing those whose heads are exploding why things will be ok.
i’ve asked how things can be ok in a Bush admin. and what i got back was attacks on michael moore, kerry & clinton.
lions and tigers and bears – o my
153 – I hope you don’t mean Brett Favre!
Just kidding.
Okay, I have gone way too off topic…and it’s time to go home. Nighty night.
ya K – i felt bad cause just before peejz posted the ‘growing on her’ i told her i thought she’d enjoy dancing on my grave, which, out of order, might have seemed i was scorning her.
nite, sweet K
155: So basically, Shiloh, you’ll stand for one thing one week, and the exact opposite another week. Well, whatever works, I guess…but I like to stand for something myself.
And say what you will about Bush, but love him or hate him, he stands for something.
Sounds like a Kerry supporter to me AG!:razz:
how i i changed my views from week to week, AG?
130: Why do the phrases “ABC” and “unbiased” sound like an oxymoron when used in the same sentence? I mean, that is the same network that employs Peter Jennings, who saw fit to “unbiasedly” censor Toby Keith’s performance of “The Angry American.”
161: Well, for starters, one week it’s not that you really care one way or another whether Kerry gets votes; you just hope Bush doesn’t get them. The following week, you are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kerry is indeed the man for the job, and you are trying to encourage others to vote for him.
Guess it’s an “on-week.”
AG – let me try this. all along, my ‘anyone but Bush’ never meant Nader. it was the most electable man. that is Kerry. do i think Kerry is a Churchill or Roosevelt or a JFK – no
he is, i believe, by far, the best choice we have at the moment. hey, i was initially going foir Lieberman.
LONDON – A survey of deaths in Iraqi households estimates that as many as 100,000 more people may have died throughout the country in the 18 months since the U.S.-led invasion than would be expected based on the death rate before the war.
missing truth
163: Well, fwiw, yes, Lieberman does seem to be the most palatable choice for a Democratic president, the one with the most conservative leanings.
Also fwiw, yes, I am well aware of the fact that you have never endorsed Nader.
I do not, however, see what any of that has to do with the fact that you have said in the past that you are not insisting that others vote for Kerry, yet you are now.
I do understand the “Rock vs. Hard Place”-position this election has turned into. I have mentioned that it is quite likely that I will vote for an alternative for Bush, and am proud to declare that the alternative is not John Kerry. That’s something I will not waver on myself, and I think it is ironic and dangerous to vascilate on such a candidate.
I also find myself wondering about the fact that you’re all but admitting that you’re pretty much settling for Kerry, and that you’ll compromise if necessary. I guess that’s your decision, but it certainly isn’t mine. I think the idea of settling for the leader of this country is by far an incredibly frightening prospect.
165. “Lieberman does seem to be the most palatable choice for a Democratic president, the one with the most conservative leanings”
So is Bush the Republican with the most “liberal” leanings? Heaven help us.
Actually, that would be John McCain.
Though I must say I’m not that comfortable about Colin Powell either for some reason — jmo.
I should also add my one problem with Lieberman: I always seem to associate him with the Al Gore debacle of 2000. In a way, I almost feel sorry for him; I’m not sure whether he’s gone down with or instead of Al.
FRankly, AG, I think Lieberman would have been an excellent choice. He’s a “conservative Democrat” which places him more in line with the populace than either of the primary candidates. His fall may have been that he didn’t appeal to the extreme elements on either the right or left that seem to be controlling things. The country is split down the middle and the parties are fighting from the left and right field foul lines.
Which shows a bit of promise. There’s little if any compromise, and it’s those grey areas that can get us into trouble.
I think 9/11 made us realize that, that we should know what we believe in and what we support, be it a right-wing agenda or a left-wing agenda. We can’t go back and undo that, of course, but we have to take the ultimate lemon from life and make it into lemonade.
i wrote yesterday that domestic policy has been a disaster. in one way it’s been a resounding success!
Chevron reported today/yesterday that it cleared 3.2 BILLION $$$’s last quarter.
that’s a 49% increase! go Bush!
169. AG, are you suggesting that we need to have either a right- or left-wing aganda, and that a centrist agenda is weak? Can’t lemonade be made from many places on the spectrum of political orientations?
Sorry to jump in off topic (but not from the larger heading…
The explosives story is breaking both ways – with
Pentagon video showing lots of boxes at Al-Qaqqa (or part of it) and claimimg that there were no explosives. Yet another video shows the inside of the facility – and using that, David Kay, the former Bush-appointed head of the 1 billion dollar Iraqi Survey Group, confirms that both of the explosives were present in large quantities. Also reports that Hussien ordered “not one piece of paper” be removed from Al-Qaqqa before the war. The Post this morning has an interesting take –
“The 377 tons of Iraqi explosives whose reported disappearance has dominated the past few days of presidential campaigning represent only a tiny fraction of the vast quantities of other munitions unaccounted for since the fall of Saddam Hussein’s government 18 months ago.”
U.S. military commanders estimated last fall that Iraqi military sites contained 650,000 to 1 million tons of explosives, artillery shells, aviation bombs and other ammunition. The Bush administration cited official figures this week showing about 400,000 tons destroyed or in the process of being eliminated. That leaves the whereabouts of more than 250,000 tons unknown.”
This really is the big picture I’ve been talking about. I’m willing to admit when I’ve been duped on an issue – but this story is moving against Bush (who is becoming increasingly shrill and belligerent on the trail, accusing Kerry of “compromising the troops”, and using more than 1/2 of his stump speeches in attack mode. Probably not where he wanted to be rhetorically at this point).
Best
One more thing before my life has to get the better of me – It seems a little disingenous for Bush to be attacking Kerry for “undermining the troops” in light of Giuliani’s doozy yesterday:
‘Here’s what Rudy Giuliani said yesterday: “No matter how you try to blame it on the president, the actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search carefully enough?”‘ Well, they weren’t informed that they should search. I’ve never been a fan of Rudy’s, but I do feel bad that the Administration brings him out whenever things are looking bad – like after the first debate and just before the Rep. Convention, expending his political capital like a 16 year old with his first credit card.
Nice example of a cut and paste job SandyB. Good luck on tuesday.
Yeah, I can’t wait until somebody tries to “Voter Intimidate” me at the polls. I’m in the mood to hand out a good asskicking to somebody.
fuck you sandyb. you don’t know shit about rudy. were you in NYC on sept 11? i was. i watched the bldg i worked in fall to ashes. and to watch bush, pataki and guiliani was a show of TRUE leadership.
I thought you might want to see some of the article I was referring to – not really following your sarcasm, there, peejz – I can only interpret it as an inability to defend Bush on this issue. Or you’re busy. Anyway,
Snatch,
Read some of Adam Cohen’s series about election shenanigans on both sides. In Florida yesterday, the BBC reported that a “voter challenge” list had been issued by the state Republicans that included only black people. Voter intimidation is taking place more on the Republican side, my friend – it’s up to you to be fair and look into it.
Not to jump too far off topic, but I was in the bookstore this morning, picking up some RIGHT WING literature when I came across FarenHYPE 9/11 DVD.
I purchased it, but the Liberal Store clerk started giving me crap about how it was a bunch of lies, but Michael Moore’s versionwas the epitome of all documentaries. So I smacked the little weasle and ran out of the store before the other liberal co-workers could get me.
I don’t think I’llbe welcome back to Barnes and Noble any time soon.
screw you sandyb – you don’t have a clue about rudy. were you in nyc on 9/11? i was, and watched the bldg i worked in fall to ashes. bush, pataki, and guiliani showed TRUE leadership. something your camp can’t recognize.
SNATCH! are you serious? LOLOLOLOLOL
Yeah, and I saw on the news this morning a black rally outside the polls in Florida. Michael Moore was there and he was getting every body riled up and they were all screaming derogatory comments about Bush.
Yeah, I would have loved to have been there waiting to vote for the president at that time.
Having my life threatened…..
Yeah, but the Republicans are doing far worse. I know:roll:
It wasn’t sarcasm Sandy it was was it was. Fact. You cut and paste to try to somehow prove your point.
As I said..good luck on tuesday.
This voter intimidation is a pathetic excuse for minorities to use when their man does not get elected.. If they don’t get their way, they cry foul…Hell, that seems to be the mantra of the Democratic Party these days.
Anybody ever look at the LOW number of minority turn out and think that some of them are just to lazy to show up and vote?
Most of them cut and paste because they can’t argue their view points themselves. It shows a lack of creativeness and knowledge on the issues.
I know I’m about to be labeled as a Right Wing racist bigot for pointing out the obvious.
Just so you all know, I try not to disrespect and show solid moral ethics, but you can take your political correctness and shove it up your asses:twisted::twisted::twisted:
Are you suggesting they are laying around, drinking Colt 45?
I live for getting a rise out of the liberals. It’s fun to listen to them wring their hands and get “offended” over any little thing.
You want any cheese with your whine:?:
K- any malt liquor is probable. Mad Dog 20/20 is adequate this time of year:lol:
I see Alias is getting on Peejz case again. Let’s join in, shall we?
As sad as it was stated Snatch, the fact remains that racism will be screamed for all that will listen. The fact remains that these people have had 4 years to get the paperwork turned in properly. Do any of you recall how easy it was to fill out the paperwork for a voter registration? We are not talking about a difficult or confusing piece of paper. All you need to know is your name, address, and legal status in the country.
Why bother with the malt liquor? I just grab my crack pipe.
Zelda- somehow you and crack just don’t seem like a match!:wink:
you know you and i will get railed on for the malt liquor theory…
K- we would never do that!:wink:
K,
You don’t have to be politically correct here as long as you’re bashing liberals.
does anyone remember that Bill Frist, majority leader in the senate had his families company fined almost $800,000 in 2000 for fraud in the HCA hospital co. scandal?
was ‘no child left behind’ a boondoggle for the testing companies?
how many municipalites and states have sued to NOT be a part of the unfunded mandate?
to read a truly scary column, written by a man who supported the Iraq invasion, on why we are less safe than we were before going into Iraq, including the looting of the Health Ministry where vials of viable HIV virus were taken read Peter W. Galbraith’s column in the Boston Globe.
here
Shiloh
I’ll give it a read but I say this:
These terrorists in Iraq are trying to instill a defeatist attitude in all of us by the horrendous crimes they commit. That’s what they want. That’s how they win.
We need to remember that the they are the ones screwing things up in Iraq, not us. They have a beef with us, not the other way around and if we play into their hands, that only emboldens them.
We need to show support for our military and our leaders, because if we don’t, we are essentially giving aid and comfort to the enemy.