Liberal Teacher Kicks GOP Student For T-Shirt
Colo. Teacher Sorry for Kicking Student
DURANGO, Colo. – A part-time college instructor has apologized for kicking a student because he was wearing a Republican shirt.
Fort Lewis College student Mark O’Donnell said he was showing people his College Republicans sweat shirt, which said “Work for us now … or work for us later,” when Maria Spero kicked him in the leg at an off-campus restaurant.
Spero, a visiting instructor of modern languages, apologized to O’Donnell in a letter dated Oct. 29.
“I acted entirely inappropriately by kicking you, giving vent to a thoughtless knee-jerk political reaction that should never have happened,” she wrote. “Before the incident, I did not know you and that you are a Fort Lewis student.”
O’Donnell said the apology wasn’t enough and he plans to file a complaint with the college.
Well isn’t this just amazing? Assault because of a t-shirt with a political statement the teacher did not like. Now.. analyzing this..
1. She wasn’t the teacher of the student.
2. She kicked him off campus and in a restaurant.
3. She didn’t even know him.
Now I haven’t seen the police report. I don’t know if she was arrested (I hope she was!).. but I wonder if a guy went up to a woman and kicked her because of a statement on her t-shirt if he would be getting what appears to be the same treatment. Oh and the apology letter is meant to make it all better??
This is not someone I want working in an educational institution. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech (Not Consequence Free) are principals we want in colleges. No one should be physcially abused just because they wear a political t-shirt. I hope she looses her job and I urge you all to send in an email to the Fort Lewis College. Zero Tolerance laws go both ways.. if they apply to students they should apply to teachers.
The Office of Human Resources Staff:
Vicki Caskey – Director
(970) – 247 – 7429
caskey_v@fortlewis.edu
Steve Miller – Assistant Director of Human Resources
(970) – 247 – 7423
miller_s@fortlewis.edu
Susie Huffman – Human Resources Specialist
(970) – 247 – 7433
Huffman_S@fortlewis.edu
November 1, 2004 - 01:48 AM on November 1st, 2004
I don’t believe she should be fired. It’s petty, it didn’t hurt the kid. I agree what she did was stupid and immature. Definitely something a teacher of all people shouldn’t be doing.
However, she should be punished and that’s all.
November 1, 2004 - 07:12 AM on November 1st, 2004
Gary, what if the kid had been wearing a pro-Kerry sweatshirt and she had been a Republican? Would you still say that? Just asking.
November 1, 2004 - 07:12 AM on November 1st, 2004
I disagree with you Gary. She is there to teach the students and not kick them. Would this letter have been written had he not been a student? I would say the same thing if the parties were reversed. Just teach the kids and stay the hell away from politics.
November 1, 2004 - 09:27 AM on November 1st, 2004
Typical of the venenous hatred of the moderm American left.
November 1, 2004 - 09:35 AM on November 1st, 2004
4 ’snatch’ say he ‘bitch-slapped’ a manger of a book store because of what was said about Farenheight 911. he ran away and wasn’t caught & he thinks it’s all very funny. says he’d do it again.
would he be typical of the venomous American right?
November 1, 2004 - 09:36 AM on November 1st, 2004
Its a uncalled for action is she such i big demacratic supporter? i mean did she vote for clinton and later gore? dose she plan to vote for komrad kerry? well she should be made to appoligize theres no call for this:eek:
November 1, 2004 - 09:50 AM on November 1st, 2004
But he didn’t, shiloh. She did.:razz:
November 1, 2004 - 09:54 AM on November 1st, 2004
are you saying getting caught or not defines good & bad?
November 1, 2004 - 10:05 AM on November 1st, 2004
I HEAR KERRY HAS RELATIVES IN THE FRENCH GOVT.
PLUS HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT THE JOBLESS. HE DIDN’T SHOW UP TO VOTE ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS “EXTENSION” THIS LEAVES THE JOBLESS TO BECOME THE HOMELESS. IF BUSH WOULD TELL THIS COUNTRY ABOUT IT HE WOULD WIN OHIO AND MANY MORE STATES. GO TELL THE PEOPLE.
November 1, 2004 - 10:13 AM on November 1st, 2004
8 – ancestory.com traces Kerry & Bush’s family back to the 15th century madman, Vlad the Impaler of Transylvania who was the model for Count Dracula. go tell the people.
& President Nader thanks you.
November 1, 2004 - 11:20 AM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh, wouldn’t you say that what the teacher did is equally bad?
I’m not saying that I completely approve of Snatch’s actions, don’t get me wrong; as I mentioned in that thread, I believe anything untoward that had happened was provoked by the unprofessional behavior of the clerk in question.
But let me ask you this: how did the student’s t-shirt provoke the teacher? If there is a part of this story not being told, ie if there was a rule against politically-oriented (and possibly offensive) t-shirts on either side of the coin, and this student openly violated it and pulled a “What are you going to do about it?”-routine with the teacher when confronted, thus provoking her into less-than-professional behavior, I would certainly understand that to a degree. If there was not, however, where is the excuse for her behavior under the circumstances?
November 1, 2004 - 11:23 AM on November 1st, 2004
8-No. I’m saying that we are not talking about some hypothetical attack by the Vast Right Wing, of which I am a proud card carrying memember, thank you, but something that is real and documented. If you can’t tell the difference I suggest you see a shrink
November 1, 2004 - 12:06 PM on November 1st, 2004
Ag – vilolence is the problem not the solution regardless of party affiliation
November 1, 2004 - 12:06 PM on November 1st, 2004
Do you think that could qualify as a hate crime?
But then again, filing charges and dragging her into court for assault and battery wouldn’t be bad either. A big fat lawsuit would be nice.
November 1, 2004 - 12:20 PM on November 1st, 2004
We think a lot alike, Sasha. I do enjoy reading what you have to say.
November 1, 2004 - 12:43 PM on November 1st, 2004
RE:5
You’re damn skippy. I would slap the little bitch again in a f-cking heartbeat. Actually, I would make sure I hit him two or three times if I could do it all over.
The point is that I was minding my business and this dumbass had to impose his views on me, and try to berate me when it was none of his business in the first place.
If I had’ve been acting like a punk beforehand, then I would have been in the wrong. But it was the bookstore employee who started it, not me
I just ended it.
On the other hand, this college professor had no business going out of her way to kick somebody for wearing a Bush T- shirt. Comparing that to my situation is like apples and oranges.
You liberals sing a different tune when somebody beats up on another because they are gay, or black.
The ends sure do justify the means, don’t they?
November 1, 2004 - 12:48 PM on November 1st, 2004
16. Snatch, a strong person would have rebuked the store clerk verbally; certainly not by literally slapping the person and then running. I recall you’re from Texas. What’s the penalty there for assault & battery which you perpetrated?
November 1, 2004 - 12:56 PM on November 1st, 2004
There is no penalty if you don’t get caught Ellis, and yes, I did try to be diplomatic at first, but when all else fails…….
He was being a little bastard. You act like you’re above it all, but you would have slapped the little rat f-ck too. Any of us would have.
You should have heard him moan, it was great
November 1, 2004 - 01:02 PM on November 1st, 2004
For the record, I would not have slapped him. Despite my desire to purchase the material you had in hand, I would have terminated the transaction, called for the manager, and let him’her deal with the “rat f****”{ (to use your term).
Are you also saying that breaking the law is OK as long as you don’t get caught? Yeee-haaaaaaaa … Jesse James rides again (was he a Texan?)!
November 1, 2004 - 01:19 PM on November 1st, 2004
Jesse James was from Missouri, I believe.
November 1, 2004 - 01:46 PM on November 1st, 2004
Thanks, Kentuckian. My history of that era escaped me.
November 1, 2004 - 04:15 PM on November 1st, 2004
15: Thanks, FK. The feeling is mutual.
One of these days I’ll even be able to spell “experience” and “life” correctly when typing on the fly.
ops:
November 1, 2004 - 04:17 PM on November 1st, 2004
19 – he WAS the manager!
November 1, 2004 - 04:21 PM on November 1st, 2004
23 – what does it matter who he was – snatch committed assault, ran away guilty and now laughs about it.
the rationales i’ve heard to deflect from his responsibility have been troubling.
November 1, 2004 - 04:28 PM on November 1st, 2004
24 – I think he takes full responsibility…
November 1, 2004 - 04:32 PM on November 1st, 2004
& continues to justify his actions. of course it’s his responsibility – it’s also reflects on those who support him.:sad:
November 1, 2004 - 04:38 PM on November 1st, 2004
mike – if the RNC was monitoring your posts, i think they may ask you to endorse Kerry.
November 1, 2004 - 04:43 PM on November 1st, 2004
haha… I work for the RNC, you idiot…. and I’ve pushed a Kerry idiot who got in my face and wouldn’t shut up as well… but I’m 6′1″ 220lbs and Bench Press 400lbs…..so, needless to say, not too many dirtbag, maggot-infested, wannabe hippies get up in my face.
November 1, 2004 - 04:44 PM on November 1st, 2004
or a bunch of fat, middle-ages, peacenik “soccer dads” either…..hahaha… right Shiloh?
November 1, 2004 - 04:47 PM on November 1st, 2004
ask the folks here, mike, if they are really in favor of you working for the RNC.
snatch, notwithstanding.
you don’t seem to have a clue how you are perceived here. hint: not that good.
you have pushed racist agendas, disrespected anyone who has disagreed with you and marginilized yourself to such a point, that i am staggered that your still here.
your ad hominem attacks are cheap and pathetic.
ask me how i really feel.
November 1, 2004 - 04:48 PM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh…regarding your post #10…
Isn’t Kerry actually a french Jew whose real name is “Cohn”????? and, much like everything else in this a-holes life, he invents an identity as an Irish Catholic from Massachussetts with the initials “JFK” as a means of political opportunism…..hmmmmmm?????
November 1, 2004 - 04:48 PM on November 1st, 2004
the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
November 1, 2004 - 04:51 PM on November 1st, 2004
you have issues with French Jews?
November 1, 2004 - 04:51 PM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh, the words of a Michael Moore Mini-me don’t really mean a lot to me.
What racist agenda, by the way, have I promoted?
November 1, 2004 - 04:52 PM on November 1st, 2004
does killing all the “Muslim animals” seem non racist?
November 1, 2004 - 04:53 PM on November 1st, 2004
30- shiloh, who made you the spokesman for how we feel?
i don’t agree with everything people on this site say. since it’s difficult to put a post with a face here, all we can judge on is opinion, not character. i’m frankly tired of the holier than thou attitude.
November 1, 2004 - 04:54 PM on November 1st, 2004
I have issues with the french… I don’t care what Messeur Cohn’s background is…why does he have to lie? Does HE have issues????
November 1, 2004 - 04:55 PM on November 1st, 2004
Mike can’t be a racist, since he hates white liberals equally to other races
November 1, 2004 - 04:55 PM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh, are f-ing terrorists who machine gun children, behead the innocent, and use women and children to blow up jew on buses not ANIMALS???
November 1, 2004 - 04:56 PM on November 1st, 2004
36 – K read mike posts and then get back- you support his positions -that’s fine with me.
November 1, 2004 - 04:57 PM on November 1st, 2004
35 – i think it’s pretty clear that he is talking about terrorists, not EVERY muslim.
November 1, 2004 - 04:57 PM on November 1st, 2004
gee – mike – you don’t seem to be enjoy being attacked.
November 1, 2004 - 04:58 PM on November 1st, 2004
shiloh, people support me because I am not afraid of the PC police, I tell it like it is, and I don’t talk down to people the way you do…. not to mention, I have served my country and am proud of it, and I know that bothers you, but tough shit.
November 1, 2004 - 04:58 PM on November 1st, 2004
K that’s a new tact for him – he had to revise it after his hatred got to the point of no return.
again – read his posts.
November 1, 2004 - 05:00 PM on November 1st, 2004
shiloh, a good portion of his posts are to egg you on, which i admit, is fun to watch at times.
November 1, 2004 - 05:00 PM on November 1st, 2004
K – Lisa said he was the most ignorant person that has posted here in 2 years.
for once, i agree with her.
November 1, 2004 - 05:02 PM on November 1st, 2004
45 – i don’t believe that for a second. you just egging me on with stuff you don’t really believe, mike? is she right?
November 1, 2004 - 05:03 PM on November 1st, 2004
47 i really hope you are right, K. honestly.
November 1, 2004 - 05:04 PM on November 1st, 2004
he called Sandyb and anti-Semite. several times.
just egging her on? was that fun for you, too?
November 1, 2004 - 05:05 PM on November 1st, 2004
47 – i didn’t say all of the time. i just recall a post a few days ago when you guys were going at it, and he said that he was intentionally trying to get your goat, so to speak.
i can’t speak for him. although, he does sound pretty big to mess with
November 1, 2004 - 05:08 PM on November 1st, 2004
he has said several things that contradict each other. after being crushed in one debate, he came up with, “hey, we’re all Americans”, blah blah blah, then he was right back with red hot hate.
only pcd has gotten to me like him.
snatch is a baby hater compared to mike.
November 1, 2004 - 05:08 PM on November 1st, 2004
49 – shiloh, you have personally attacked people here as well. i’m not fond of the name calling. who knows, maybe he really thinks sandy is an anti-semite. peejz has been called a racist, and i think i have as well. whatever. if you don’t like what he writes, no one says you need to respond.
November 1, 2004 - 05:09 PM on November 1st, 2004
51 – nice how you rank us. where do i sit in your scale?
November 1, 2004 - 05:11 PM on November 1st, 2004
K – i was actually getting pissed at you for not agreeing with me.
i think i’ve modified (or tried to) the way i express myself because of some of the valid criticism directed towards me.
he plays at it, but not seriously.
you can tell by the typos when i’m fired up that my emotions are getting away from me – like when i was on the verge of saying things to you i would regret.
November 1, 2004 - 05:13 PM on November 1st, 2004
those i mentioned in 51 are the only ones i’ve ranked so far.
they’re the bottom 3 – you’re numero uno, dear.
November 1, 2004 - 05:16 PM on November 1st, 2004
actually, earlier today i told Sandyb i ;oved her – but it’s more of an admiration. the girl is smart.
November 1, 2004 - 05:23 PM on November 1st, 2004
bah, can we get back to talking about the issues and not the people who post?
p.s. i think snatch is a teddy bear
November 1, 2004 - 05:48 PM on November 1st, 2004
don’t you love how “high-minded” communists like Shiloh are so quick to label conservatives and republicas as “racists” and “nazis”….c’mon Shiloh, it’s getting old.
November 1, 2004 - 05:51 PM on November 1st, 2004
i’ve never called you a nazi. i’ve alredy given you examples of your racism. thank you.
November 1, 2004 - 05:56 PM on November 1st, 2004
What example????????
I’m still waiting for it.
November 1, 2004 - 05:57 PM on November 1st, 2004
i’m just egging you on mike. after all, we’re all Americans, right?
November 1, 2004 - 05:59 PM on November 1st, 2004
Well, I sometimes wonder about you…
November 1, 2004 - 05:59 PM on November 1st, 2004
for someone who claims to be and American and love our country, you, like your candidate, have an uncanny knack for siding with it’s enemies.
November 1, 2004 - 06:02 PM on November 1st, 2004
if half of America will votes for Kerry, would they be siding with ‘our’ enemies, too?
November 1, 2004 - 07:13 PM on November 1st, 2004
Yes, but the sad part is that some of them don’t realize it. I mean, good gosh, did you ever ask yourself why terrorists would want Kerry in office? On second thought, maybe you shouldn’t, you could agrue yourself to death.
November 1, 2004 - 08:55 PM on November 1st, 2004
All democrats should be thrown in jail for their ties to terrorism.
November 1, 2004 - 09:07 PM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh, Did you see my question to you on the top subject of recent posts???
November 1, 2004 - 09:21 PM on November 1st, 2004
Shiloh, isn’t here.
November 1, 2004 - 09:24 PM on November 1st, 2004
Thank goodness, I miss him about like I miss an ingrown toenail.:lol:
November 1, 2004 - 09:25 PM on November 1st, 2004
Monkey,
Since when does disagreement with this administration equate to siding with the terrorists?
I guess we should blindly follow those who lead and never question where they are taking us.
November 1, 2004 - 09:29 PM on November 1st, 2004
KY,
at least he adds something to debate about. Otherwise it would be right against righter, if that makes any sense.
November 1, 2004 - 09:42 PM on November 1st, 2004
You could look at it that may I suppose. But debating with him is kind of stilted because he only sees one side to a thing: his. And he doesn’t like to hear anything we have to say because it goes against his way of thinking, at least that is the impression I get.
November 1, 2004 - 09:43 PM on November 1st, 2004
So you actually see the other side of things and listen to what they have to say.
November 1, 2004 - 09:54 PM on November 1st, 2004
I try. Sometimes its not easy but I do try, even when I’m not shown the same courtesy.
November 1, 2004 - 09:58 PM on November 1st, 2004
Good night
Remember to go out and vote.
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