Colo. Teacher Sorry for Kicking Student
DURANGO, Colo. – A part-time college instructor has apologized for kicking a student because he was wearing a Republican shirt.
Fort Lewis College student Mark O’Donnell said he was showing people his College Republicans sweat shirt, which said “Work for us now … or work for us later,” when Maria Spero kicked him in the leg at an off-campus restaurant.
Spero, a visiting instructor of modern languages, apologized to O’Donnell in a letter dated Oct. 29.
“I acted entirely inappropriately by kicking you, giving vent to a thoughtless knee-jerk political reaction that should never have happened,” she wrote. “Before the incident, I did not know you and that you are a Fort Lewis student.”
O’Donnell said the apology wasn’t enough and he plans to file a complaint with the college.
Well isn’t this just amazing? Assault because of a t-shirt with a political statement the teacher did not like. Now.. analyzing this..
1. She wasn’t the teacher of the student.
2. She kicked him off campus and in a restaurant.
3. She didn’t even know him.
Now I haven’t seen the police report. I don’t know if she was arrested (I hope she was!).. but I wonder if a guy went up to a woman and kicked her because of a statement on her t-shirt if he would be getting what appears to be the same treatment. Oh and the apology letter is meant to make it all better??
This is not someone I want working in an educational institution. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech (Not Consequence Free) are principals we want in colleges. No one should be physcially abused just because they wear a political t-shirt. I hope she looses her job and I urge you all to send in an email to the Fort Lewis College. Zero Tolerance laws go both ways.. if they apply to students they should apply to teachers.
The Office of Human Resources Staff:
Vicki Caskey – Director
(970) – 247 – 7429
caskey_v@fortlewis.edu
Steve Miller – Assistant Director of Human Resources
(970) – 247 – 7423
miller_s@fortlewis.edu
Susie Huffman – Human Resources Specialist
(970) – 247 – 7433
Huffman_S@fortlewis.edu
I don’t believe she should be fired. It’s petty, it didn’t hurt the kid. I agree what she did was stupid and immature. Definitely something a teacher of all people shouldn’t be doing.
However, she should be punished and that’s all.
Gary, what if the kid had been wearing a pro-Kerry sweatshirt and she had been a Republican? Would you still say that? Just asking.
I disagree with you Gary. She is there to teach the students and not kick them. Would this letter have been written had he not been a student? I would say the same thing if the parties were reversed. Just teach the kids and stay the hell away from politics.
Typical of the venenous hatred of the moderm American left.
4 ‘snatch’ say he ‘bitch-slapped’ a manger of a book store because of what was said about Farenheight 911. he ran away and wasn’t caught & he thinks it’s all very funny. says he’d do it again.
would he be typical of the venomous American right?
Its a uncalled for action is she such i big demacratic supporter? i mean did she vote for clinton and later gore? dose she plan to vote for komrad kerry? well she should be made to appoligize theres no call for this:eek:
But he didn’t, shiloh. She did.:razz:
are you saying getting caught or not defines good & bad?
I HEAR KERRY HAS RELATIVES IN THE FRENCH GOVT.
PLUS HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT THE JOBLESS. HE DIDN’T SHOW UP TO VOTE ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS “EXTENSION” THIS LEAVES THE JOBLESS TO BECOME THE HOMELESS. IF BUSH WOULD TELL THIS COUNTRY ABOUT IT HE WOULD WIN OHIO AND MANY MORE STATES. GO TELL THE PEOPLE.
8 – ancestory.com traces Kerry & Bush’s family back to the 15th century madman, Vlad the Impaler of Transylvania who was the model for Count Dracula. go tell the people.
& President Nader thanks you.
Shiloh, wouldn’t you say that what the teacher did is equally bad?
I’m not saying that I completely approve of Snatch’s actions, don’t get me wrong; as I mentioned in that thread, I believe anything untoward that had happened was provoked by the unprofessional behavior of the clerk in question.
But let me ask you this: how did the student’s t-shirt provoke the teacher? If there is a part of this story not being told, ie if there was a rule against politically-oriented (and possibly offensive) t-shirts on either side of the coin, and this student openly violated it and pulled a “What are you going to do about it?”-routine with the teacher when confronted, thus provoking her into less-than-professional behavior, I would certainly understand that to a degree. If there was not, however, where is the excuse for her behavior under the circumstances?
8-No. I’m saying that we are not talking about some hypothetical attack by the Vast Right Wing, of which I am a proud card carrying memember, thank you, but something that is real and documented. If you can’t tell the difference I suggest you see a shrink
Ag – vilolence is the problem not the solution regardless of party affiliation
Do you think that could qualify as a hate crime?
But then again, filing charges and dragging her into court for assault and battery wouldn’t be bad either. A big fat lawsuit would be nice.
We think a lot alike, Sasha. I do enjoy reading what you have to say.
RE:5
You’re damn skippy. I would slap the little bitch again in a f-cking heartbeat. Actually, I would make sure I hit him two or three times if I could do it all over.
The point is that I was minding my business and this dumbass had to impose his views on me, and try to berate me when it was none of his business in the first place.
If I had’ve been acting like a punk beforehand, then I would have been in the wrong. But it was the bookstore employee who started it, not me
I just ended it.
On the other hand, this college professor had no business going out of her way to kick somebody for wearing a Bush T- shirt. Comparing that to my situation is like apples and oranges.
You liberals sing a different tune when somebody beats up on another because they are gay, or black.
The ends sure do justify the means, don’t they?
16. Snatch, a strong person would have rebuked the store clerk verbally; certainly not by literally slapping the person and then running. I recall you’re from Texas. What’s the penalty there for assault & battery which you perpetrated?
There is no penalty if you don’t get caught Ellis, and yes, I did try to be diplomatic at first, but when all else fails…….
He was being a little bastard. You act like you’re above it all, but you would have slapped the little rat f-ck too. Any of us would have.
You should have heard him moan, it was great
For the record, I would not have slapped him. Despite my desire to purchase the material you had in hand, I would have terminated the transaction, called for the manager, and let him’her deal with the “rat f****”{ (to use your term).
Are you also saying that breaking the law is OK as long as you don’t get caught? Yeee-haaaaaaaa … Jesse James rides again (was he a Texan?)!
Jesse James was from Missouri, I believe.
Thanks, Kentuckian. My history of that era escaped me.
15: Thanks, FK. The feeling is mutual.
One of these days I’ll even be able to spell “experience” and “life” correctly when typing on the fly.:oops:
19 – he WAS the manager!
23 – what does it matter who he was – snatch committed assault, ran away guilty and now laughs about it.
the rationales i’ve heard to deflect from his responsibility have been troubling.
24 – I think he takes full responsibility…
& continues to justify his actions. of course it’s his responsibility – it’s also reflects on those who support him.:sad:
mike – if the RNC was monitoring your posts, i think they may ask you to endorse Kerry.
haha… I work for the RNC, you idiot…. and I’ve pushed a Kerry idiot who got in my face and wouldn’t shut up as well… but I’m 6’1″ 220lbs and Bench Press 400lbs…..so, needless to say, not too many dirtbag, maggot-infested, wannabe hippies get up in my face.
or a bunch of fat, middle-ages, peacenik “soccer dads” either…..hahaha… right Shiloh?
ask the folks here, mike, if they are really in favor of you working for the RNC.
snatch, notwithstanding.
you don’t seem to have a clue how you are perceived here. hint: not that good.
you have pushed racist agendas, disrespected anyone who has disagreed with you and marginilized yourself to such a point, that i am staggered that your still here.
your ad hominem attacks are cheap and pathetic.
ask me how i really feel.
Shiloh…regarding your post #10…
Isn’t Kerry actually a french Jew whose real name is “Cohn”????? and, much like everything else in this a-holes life, he invents an identity as an Irish Catholic from Massachussetts with the initials “JFK” as a means of political opportunism…..hmmmmmm?????
the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
you have issues with French Jews?
Shiloh, the words of a Michael Moore Mini-me don’t really mean a lot to me.
What racist agenda, by the way, have I promoted?
does killing all the “Muslim animals” seem non racist?
30- shiloh, who made you the spokesman for how we feel?
i don’t agree with everything people on this site say. since it’s difficult to put a post with a face here, all we can judge on is opinion, not character. i’m frankly tired of the holier than thou attitude.
I have issues with the french… I don’t care what Messeur Cohn’s background is…why does he have to lie? Does HE have issues????
Mike can’t be a racist, since he hates white liberals equally to other races
Shiloh, are f-ing terrorists who machine gun children, behead the innocent, and use women and children to blow up jew on buses not ANIMALS???
36 – K read mike posts and then get back- you support his positions -that’s fine with me.
35 – i think it’s pretty clear that he is talking about terrorists, not EVERY muslim.
gee – mike – you don’t seem to be enjoy being attacked.
shiloh, people support me because I am not afraid of the PC police, I tell it like it is, and I don’t talk down to people the way you do…. not to mention, I have served my country and am proud of it, and I know that bothers you, but tough shit.
K that’s a new tact for him – he had to revise it after his hatred got to the point of no return.
again – read his posts.
shiloh, a good portion of his posts are to egg you on, which i admit, is fun to watch at times.
K – Lisa said he was the most ignorant person that has posted here in 2 years.
for once, i agree with her.
45 – i don’t believe that for a second. you just egging me on with stuff you don’t really believe, mike? is she right?
47 i really hope you are right, K. honestly.
he called Sandyb and anti-Semite. several times.
just egging her on? was that fun for you, too?
47 – i didn’t say all of the time. i just recall a post a few days ago when you guys were going at it, and he said that he was intentionally trying to get your goat, so to speak.
i can’t speak for him. although, he does sound pretty big to mess with