Carlos Gutierrez
GW Chooses Carlos for Secretary of Commerce
President Bush on Monday chose Carlos Gutierrez, a native of Cuba and now the chief executive officer of Kellogg Co. to be secretary of Commerce.
If confirmed by the Senate, Gutierrez would succeed Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, a Texas confidant of Bush’s, who announced his resignation shortly after the Nov. 2 election. The president announced the choice of Gutierrez, 51, at the White House, calling him “a visionary executive” and “one of America’s most respected business leaders.”
Gutierrez, whose family fled Cuba in 1960 when he was 6, joined Kellogg in 1975. Known for having a strong work ethic and a seemingly endless stream of ideas, he worked all over the world for the company before being promoted to president and chief operating officer in June 1998.
Carlos Gutierrez’s story is inspirational and I think President Bush has made a very good choice.
November 30, 2004 - 08:54 AM on November 30th, 2004
What a resume. I think he will be a good man for the job.
November 30, 2004 - 09:13 AM on November 30th, 2004
How soon until we see acusations of “wetback” and that he isn’t really Hispanic?
November 30, 2004 - 09:17 AM on November 30th, 2004
Is anyone else concerned that everyone around President Bush is going to be one of his good buddies?
Will anyone tell the Emperor the truth about his new clothes?
November 30, 2004 - 09:19 AM on November 30th, 2004
I suppose political contributions to Republicans didn’t hurt, either.
November 30, 2004 - 09:21 AM on November 30th, 2004
looks like more of that vaunted conservative racist behavior….
Why is that if Republicans don’t have any minorities, they are “racists”, and if they do promote minorities, then the minorities are uncle Tom’s and Aunt Jemimas….funny, isn’t it.
Keep it up Mr. President.
November 30, 2004 - 09:39 AM on November 30th, 2004
So for $500.00 to the RNC he got this job:?::roll:
Because all the other donations were to local elections or the Cuban Democracy fund.
November 30, 2004 - 10:19 AM on November 30th, 2004
$1500 to UPTON FOR ALL OF US – Republican
$2,000 to MARIO DIAZ-BALART FOR CONGRESS – Republican
$500 to REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE – Republican
$2,000 to ROS-LEHTINEN FOR CONGRESS – Republican
$4,000 to US-CUBA DEMOCRACY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (which contributes to Republicans over Democrats by a margin of 2 to 1)
$2,000 to LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE – Republican
Maybe my math is wrong, but these are individual contributions, made personally by Gutierrez that add up to $12,000 for Republicans.
November 30, 2004 - 10:33 AM on November 30th, 2004
So I guess you’re saying that this guy got his job because he had contributed $12000 to Republicans? Only $12000 and you can become a member of Bush’s cabinet?
That sounds like a good deal to me. Maybe you should tell e mail your buddy, George Soros and tell him that he could save millions by changing party affiliations.
November 30, 2004 - 10:44 AM on November 30th, 2004
You know, the George Soros that was convicted in France of insider trading and ponied up more than thirty million to the Democratic party and left wing 527 groups this past election?
The DNC sugar daddy.
November 30, 2004 - 10:48 AM on November 30th, 2004
Screw Soros, Tom Delay is a damned felon and is your majority leader in the House.
don’t throw stones when the Republicans spit on ethics and you live in a glass house.
November 30, 2004 - 11:00 AM on November 30th, 2004
Well. I would give the same advice to you, Shiloh, and you’re PISSANT little friend dg over there.
November 30, 2004 - 11:02 AM on November 30th, 2004
i didn’t name call.
November 30, 2004 - 11:04 AM on November 30th, 2004
Why can’t you liberals ever concieve the idea that maybe this guy got the job because he was, in fact, one of the most qualified for it? Instead, it’s always foul play. Bush is playing favorites…..
Whah! Whah! Whah!
You weenies want some cheese with your whine?
November 30, 2004 - 11:05 AM on November 30th, 2004
I didn’t name call you, Shiloh. It was directed at that little woman of a man, that goes by dg.
November 30, 2004 - 11:08 AM on November 30th, 2004
And you must have had the glass in your house replaced many times recently because the Democrats don’t even have ethics anymore.
November 30, 2004 - 11:10 AM on November 30th, 2004
On another note, Shiloh, how was your Thanksgiving?
Uh….Liberals do celebrate Thanksgiving, don’t they?
November 30, 2004 - 11:26 AM on November 30th, 2004
16 – i went over to the Worker Party headquarters and talked about how to unionize wal-mart. yours?
p.s. dg does good research & is knowledgable on a wide range of subjects. i’d rise to his level before name calling him. agree or diasagree – ya gotta give the guy his due.
November 30, 2004 - 11:43 AM on November 30th, 2004
17–Ended up having an unexpected funeral of a family member to attend the day after. At least the Cowboys won.
And dg does do good research, but he tends to cherry pick with what he wants to go with rather than the whole actual story. And I, myself, when debating on this forum, try not to let biased news collumns written by somebody else do my debating for me.
Either I know it or I don’t and I will educate myself on the issue if I wish to learn more about it. Maybe dg should rise to my level instead of being a little bitch and always dropping in collumns.
Thats how I feel about that and I didn’t even need to plagerize somebody else’s work to say it, either.
November 30, 2004 - 11:50 AM on November 30th, 2004
you didn’t plagerize ’cause no one else would write such things.
November 30, 2004 - 12:03 PM on November 30th, 2004
Take it for what it’s worth, Shiloh. I didn’t spin any threads in 18 that weren’t true. I say what I say, and if people don’t like me for my political opinions, I don’t give a good god damn. I am who I am, just as you are who you are, and dg is the little bitch that he is.
Right?
November 30, 2004 - 12:19 PM on November 30th, 2004
yes you are being what you call dg.
November 30, 2004 - 12:25 PM on November 30th, 2004
put the personal attacks (name calling) to rest
November 30, 2004 - 12:30 PM on November 30th, 2004
Welcome all. Snatch, you must remember this about dg…. she does cherry pick, and her information comes from shady sources
November 30, 2004 - 12:40 PM on November 30th, 2004
darn – no more ‘i’m rubber – you’re glue’ posts.
dg is a guy TAC.
November 30, 2004 - 12:48 PM on November 30th, 2004
SHiloh…..”Screw Soros, Tom Delay is a damned felon and is your majority leader in the House.”
be careful…you have a killer and former KKK wizard in your senate leadership.
November 30, 2004 - 12:48 PM on November 30th, 2004
Bush visits Canada today. I happen to be in the middle of a stint in Canada (dual citizenship) and find it rather funny that Bush won’t address Parliament because he fears heckling. Reagan was heckled in 1987 by members of the NDP, and he did just fine.
November 30, 2004 - 12:49 PM on November 30th, 2004
25 – They are not currently under investigation.
November 30, 2004 - 12:52 PM on November 30th, 2004
….and if 12,000 gets you a seat in the cabinet, let me break out the checkbook…is there such thing as the SECRETARY OF ROCK????
lol
November 30, 2004 - 12:52 PM on November 30th, 2004
25
the word ‘former’ counts mike. we are all guilty of something and hopefully, formerly so.
who’s the killer?
November 30, 2004 - 12:53 PM on November 30th, 2004
27 – sorry sandyb..my mistake…Mary Jo Kopeckne’s family will be sorry to hear that.
November 30, 2004 - 12:53 PM on November 30th, 2004
Theodore Kennedy.
November 30, 2004 - 12:55 PM on November 30th, 2004
Look, we could go back and forth like this all day.. “Delay is under investigation….Ted Kennedy is a Killer….Bush’s grandfather is a Nazi….Vince Foster is still dead…yada yada yada…..WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?????????
nothing.
November 30, 2004 - 12:56 PM on November 30th, 2004
31,
Theodore Kennedy is a murderer? Because we have a justice system. It convicts people of stuff.
November 30, 2004 - 12:58 PM on November 30th, 2004
Sandyb. in the court of kilo’s mind one of the Clinton’s killled Vince Foster and Ted murdered the woman. don’t argue. it’s a no win deal.
November 30, 2004 - 12:59 PM on November 30th, 2004
True. Anyone have anything to say about Bush refusing to address the Canadian Parliament?
November 30, 2004 - 12:59 PM on November 30th, 2004
Shiloh, you are really going to defend Ted Kennedy????? what’s next, OJ was framed???
yikes.
November 30, 2004 - 01:00 PM on November 30th, 2004
Canada is the living breathing definition of the IRRELEVANT.
November 30, 2004 - 01:01 PM on November 30th, 2004
37,
Hmm. 71 percent of American imports are from Canada, Kilo.
November 30, 2004 - 01:04 PM on November 30th, 2004
where is that statistic from sandyb?
just curious… so you are saying that we import more goods from Canada than we do from China? Japan? All of asia?
November 30, 2004 - 01:06 PM on November 30th, 2004
wow, then they must surely be a global economic, military power that should be feared……
oops, they DO have french people there, so I take back the military remark…(which I can make, because of my own embarrassing Frech ancestry).
November 30, 2004 - 01:07 PM on November 30th, 2004
Canada is America’s biggest trading partner, but 71 percent!?! I don’t think so!
November 30, 2004 - 01:08 PM on November 30th, 2004
39. Ask her about history Mike. She’s a real peach in that department too.
November 30, 2004 - 01:08 PM on November 30th, 2004
Here is a good source…
Trading stats
November 30, 2004 - 01:10 PM on November 30th, 2004
China would be happy to hear that they only account for about 10% of american imports, sandyb…….gee, it’s no wonder we bestow “most favored nation” status upon them….apparently we should transfer that title to the toothless hockey aficianatos to the north.
November 30, 2004 - 01:10 PM on November 30th, 2004
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca newsroom factsheets 2002 sep stats-e.html. (the spaces are slashes). From the Canadian Border Services site:
Canada is the largest trading partner of the United States, with US$411 billion in two-way merchandise trade in 2000, representing over US$1.1 billion/day. US$179 billion in merchandise was imported into Canada from the United States during that year. Six ports-of-entry process 70% of all U.S.-Canada trade.
The top 100 importers account for 46% of the value. The top 1000 importers account for 71% of the total import trade value.
November 30, 2004 - 01:11 PM on November 30th, 2004
Rat:
Are you still claiming that the Soviet Union did not fight the overall brunt of the war against the Germans?
November 30, 2004 - 01:11 PM on November 30th, 2004
maybe sandyb is dyslexic and confuses 17% with 71%…..
November 30, 2004 - 01:11 PM on November 30th, 2004
But the point is – isn’t it a bit childish of Bush? Instead of commenting you guys are changing the subject.
November 30, 2004 - 01:12 PM on November 30th, 2004
Its the Maple syrup
November 30, 2004 - 01:12 PM on November 30th, 2004
47,
read the sources, Kilo.
November 30, 2004 - 01:12 PM on November 30th, 2004
but hey sandyb..you were only off by 54%…close enough.
November 30, 2004 - 01:13 PM on November 30th, 2004
Rat,
your comments on trade are much like your comments on history – they are rooted in ideology, not fact.
November 30, 2004 - 01:14 PM on November 30th, 2004
Sandyb
You are misreading the data here.
November 30, 2004 - 01:14 PM on November 30th, 2004
“But the point is – isn’t it a bit childish of Bush”
no, sandyb..the point is, you threw out yet another completely bogus statistic, in some biZarre attempt to slam Bush for not kowtowing to an ungrateful neighbor country that does nothing but side with our enemies…gee, I wonder why he wouldn’t want to bow down and kiss their collective ring, eh?
November 30, 2004 - 01:14 PM on November 30th, 2004
Canada is the US’s largest trading partner. Zelda’s stat refers to something different, but it makes the same point.
November 30, 2004 - 01:15 PM on November 30th, 2004
52.
Hmmmm, I’ve heard that before…… and it came from you…..Must be the truth.
November 30, 2004 - 01:15 PM on November 30th, 2004
what’s next, your going to fault him for not taking Jacque Chirac on a romantic moonlight cruise of the seine?????
November 30, 2004 - 01:16 PM on November 30th, 2004
Canadians fought in Afghanistan and were killed by American pilots while training. 2000 Canadians were in Afghanistan for 2 years, Kilo. Canada does not “side with our enemies”.
November 30, 2004 - 01:17 PM on November 30th, 2004
Canada has been good to America. They are a good stable neighbor with a history of close relations.
But America has also been good to Canada. Just because they didn’t want to attack Saddam in March 2003 doesn’t make them our enemy.
November 30, 2004 - 01:18 PM on November 30th, 2004
if we judge people by your judgements, dear mike, we’d all be in a lot of trouble, including Ted.
all i know is OJ was never convicted by a criminal jury. is he 100% guilty? i guess i’ll leave that to God & you.
the problem for Bush is, very few international legislative bodies wants to hear more of the same they’ve rejected over the last 4 years.
& since nothing has changed, what’s the point. prime ministers & other heads of state have to meet with him, like it or not.
despite the popular view on this site, he is not an internationaly beloved figure, not that most of you care.
November 30, 2004 - 01:18 PM on November 30th, 2004
canada certainly did “side with our enemies” in opposing the removal of saddam the butcher, meanwhile protecting the oil for food blood money being collected by their French pals…you deny this?
November 30, 2004 - 01:18 PM on November 30th, 2004
Well, Rat you aren’t arguing. Am I wrong about Canada being the largest trading partner of the US? the 71% number I think may refer to percent of Canadian exports, to the US. Just because Canada did not support the US in Iraq but has everywhere else does that rewrite history?
November 30, 2004 - 01:20 PM on November 30th, 2004
Shiloh, I thought you and I had reached the level of at least intellectually honest discourse….is this not the case?
November 30, 2004 - 01:21 PM on November 30th, 2004
61,
you dont see the difference between disagreeing on whether to wage war over Saddam or not and “siding with our enemies”? That’s sad.
November 30, 2004 - 01:21 PM on November 30th, 2004
Shiloh (you’ll note proper spelling, by the way), you are not also going to tell me that Mumia Abu Jamaal is a political prisoner, are you?
November 30, 2004 - 01:22 PM on November 30th, 2004
65,
what does that have to do with what shiloh is saying?
November 30, 2004 - 01:23 PM on November 30th, 2004
I’m just trying to get a read on Shiloh’s defending of Ted “oops, I killed her again” Kennedy.
November 30, 2004 - 01:23 PM on November 30th, 2004
Most of Canadas population lives on the Border they thrive off our system. If we ceased to exist they would be devastated if they ceased to exist North Dakota would have some killer deep sea fishing.
November 30, 2004 - 01:24 PM on November 30th, 2004
..because apparently in the liberal mind..whatever Tom Delay is supposed to have done is far worse than sending a young lady to a watery grave.
November 30, 2004 - 01:25 PM on November 30th, 2004
68,
Great. So Canada is irrelevant? If China and India stopped swallowing up US economic assets, the US economy would tank as well. The American and Canadian economies are interlocked. That’s not a reason to snub a country and alter a long tradition.
November 30, 2004 - 01:27 PM on November 30th, 2004
sandyb…I still don’t know what your point is???
November 30, 2004 - 01:29 PM on November 30th, 2004
mike kilo;
Who do you think is buying all of the Federal Savings Bonds that are funding America’s spending?
November 30, 2004 - 01:30 PM on November 30th, 2004
70. I didnt snub anyone hoser. The Canuck’s are a great bunch of fella’s. I’ve worked with them awlright. One was the best man at my wedding. So stop flying off the handle, eh…
November 30, 2004 - 01:32 PM on November 30th, 2004
72. I don’t know, Haliburton? (that’s what I answer to every question posed by a Bush-hater).
November 30, 2004 - 01:33 PM on November 30th, 2004
really sandyb… your hatred of all things Bush, of all things Republican, is really bordering on sickness… I think you should seek counseling.
November 30, 2004 - 01:33 PM on November 30th, 2004
How’ve ya been Mike
November 30, 2004 - 01:33 PM on November 30th, 2004
Wow! What did I miss! Oh, sorry shiloh, I thought dg was a girl…. Honest mistake.
November 30, 2004 - 01:34 PM on November 30th, 2004
especially since your leaders keep right on demeaning “red state” people, your media elites keep condescending to their ever-dwindling viewers, and your party leadership is prepared to run Queen Mean in ‘08….. your party is seriously in danger of going the way of the Whigs.
November 30, 2004 - 01:34 PM on November 30th, 2004
All I’m saying is that Bush should probably address Parliament. That’s not sickness.
November 30, 2004 - 01:35 PM on November 30th, 2004
Well, I’m not a “Bush-hater”. So that Haliburton is not the answer. The answer is foreign governments like China and Japan.
Basically foreign governments are financing America’s spending.
November 30, 2004 - 01:35 PM on November 30th, 2004
This site has been over run by whining ever since that “rigged election” we had back at the beginning of Nov.
November 30, 2004 - 01:37 PM on November 30th, 2004
rigged election? Now that’s humor
November 30, 2004 - 01:38 PM on November 30th, 2004
President Bush won. There was no rigged election back at the beginning of November.
November 30, 2004 - 01:39 PM on November 30th, 2004
Oh yeah! Didnt you hear scandal as far as the eye could see!
November 30, 2004 - 01:41 PM on November 30th, 2004
i never said the election was rigged and mike, honesty of any sort would dictate you stop calling Ted a murderer, like he had intent.
you’re implying intent. every investigation has disagreed with that.
i believe i am being intelellctualy honest on this point.
November 30, 2004 - 01:44 PM on November 30th, 2004
…well, he didn’t bring black gloves, a fake beard and 10,000 to flee the country like O.J…..so maybe your right about intent.
November 30, 2004 - 01:45 PM on November 30th, 2004
OJ is a murderer.
Ted Kennedy is a Murderer.
Vince Foster Was Murdered.
David Koresh and dozens of Women and Children were murdered.
Why is it so hard for the liberal mind to come to grips with reality?
November 30, 2004 - 01:52 PM on November 30th, 2004
so much for objective judgements and i know i’m gonna be sorry to ask this, but, who did Mr. Foster in?
November 30, 2004 - 01:52 PM on November 30th, 2004
What the F…… the topic of this post is supposed to be the Bush appointment……
jeeeeesus.
not, back to bashing Bush, ready Dg, sandyb…GO!
November 30, 2004 - 01:54 PM on November 30th, 2004
87. Its hard for them to grasp reality because they are too busy whining for Gov. cheese, and ordering triple whip no foam lattes.
November 30, 2004 - 01:56 PM on November 30th, 2004
Shiloh, I have no idea who did Vince Foster in… I’d love to find out….. I doubt we ever will, that case dissapeared as fast as the front doors to Mt. Carmel.
November 30, 2004 - 01:59 PM on November 30th, 2004
in other words, however, you think I’m out of line to think that there is something suspician when Clinton White House Counsel, Vince Foster, turns up dead right in the midst of an investigation over shady financial dealings, of which he had intimate knowledge..yeah, I can see what that makes me a wild consipiracy theorist.
November 30, 2004 - 01:59 PM on November 30th, 2004
like I said, I’ll keep my distance from Kennedy’s and Clintons, getting too close can be hazardous to one’s health.
November 30, 2004 - 02:01 PM on November 30th, 2004
92,
It does make you a conspiracy theorist, Kilo.
November 30, 2004 - 02:05 PM on November 30th, 2004
ok… sorry.. I should have known that white house counsels just have a propensity for turning up dead.. my bad.
November 30, 2004 - 02:42 PM on November 30th, 2004
RE: #8
Only if you sit on the board of a big corporation.
November 30, 2004 - 02:44 PM on November 30th, 2004
RE: #17
Thanx, shiloh — and not just for the compliment. If any corporation needed to be organized, it’s Wal-Mart. How many labor laws have they violated, including hiring illegal immigrants.
November 30, 2004 - 02:45 PM on November 30th, 2004
wow!!! dg and I agree on something…holy $hit!
November 30, 2004 - 02:45 PM on November 30th, 2004
I’m sure peejz understands that women should be paid less than men.
November 30, 2004 - 02:45 PM on November 30th, 2004
though I do respect Wal-Mart’s allowing people the “right to work”……
November 30, 2004 - 02:47 PM on November 30th, 2004
Why should a women be paid less than a man?
November 30, 2004 - 03:32 PM on November 30th, 2004
according to the southern Baptists, women should only work if there husband gives his permission. they were also in strong support of segregation and George W. there’s a part of his southern base that doesn’t get the press they deserve.
November 30, 2004 - 03:39 PM on November 30th, 2004
Shiloh..what happened to you? what’s with the ridiculous language?
November 30, 2004 - 03:44 PM on November 30th, 2004
sorry mike, did i say something ridiculous?
what would that be?
November 30, 2004 - 03:46 PM on November 30th, 2004
you know full well what you are saying…bush support=segregationists….duh….
keep it up though, insulting that “base” is REALLY helping the dems…
November 30, 2004 - 03:47 PM on November 30th, 2004
couple more election cycles of your arrogance and ignorance and we’ll have a filibuster-proof majority.
Thanks!!!
November 30, 2004 - 03:59 PM on November 30th, 2004
facts speak for themselves. you can look it up. relationships exist for a reason. it’s all about ‘values’ isn’t it?
November 30, 2004 - 04:01 PM on November 30th, 2004
Looks like 71% to me, kilo.
More destructive by far than the D-Day landings, Stalin’s Operation Bagration in Belorussia eliminated three times more German army divisions than the Allies did in Normandy.
Sorry, Sandyb. I don’t mean to step in, but it irritates me when those absolutely ignorant of history criticize it.
November 30, 2004 - 04:18 PM on November 30th, 2004
The Democrats attempted to cleanse the party in 1964 with the Civil Rights Act.
They got rid of most of the racist Dems, who left the party and became Republicans.
The Democrats have had a tough time in the south every since.
November 30, 2004 - 04:23 PM on November 30th, 2004
Kilo,
have you ever wondered why it took Republicans 80 years to re-take total control?
There is a reason, you know.
November 30, 2004 - 04:33 PM on November 30th, 2004
Oh! I know dg…>! 110. Because they are racist! A bunch of racist republicans. Thats your answer, right?
November 30, 2004 - 04:34 PM on November 30th, 2004
November 30, 2004 - 04:39 PM on November 30th, 2004
Yeah…
November 30, 2004 - 04:44 PM on November 30th, 2004
Republicans being racists is not why it took them 80 years to retake the country.
It was Republican economic catastrophe that did.
November 30, 2004 - 04:48 PM on November 30th, 2004
No, dg. You democrats, are the ones that are racist. Look at the recent examples. Just look at the treatment of highly qalified individuals such as Powell, Dr. COndi etc. ANd look at how the left treats them.
November 30, 2004 - 04:50 PM on November 30th, 2004
When Powell was asked about running for office years ago, the left was goin apeshit. Until he stated that the Democrat party was not in line with his values……… Then the smear campaign began. Uncle Tom crap started flying, thus his disinterest in running for office.
November 30, 2004 - 04:53 PM on November 30th, 2004
And then, Dr. Rice. Everybody in here knows what the left has done to her. Anyway, actions speak louder that words. You democrats are all talk… Yak, yak, yak. No action when it comes to race, unless your telling them how they need the government to help them, as if they need handouts. I look at actions, and as far as seeing action about race with the democrats…..well yall are bankrupt.:lol:
November 30, 2004 - 05:08 PM on November 30th, 2004
What about KKK Byrd?
November 30, 2004 - 05:12 PM on November 30th, 2004
awww peejz, that comment will simply be ignored. Byrd makes up for his past by being a good democrat. Racism is only an republican issue, right?
November 30, 2004 - 05:23 PM on November 30th, 2004
I’ll bet whenever Byrd leaves office, his seat will be filled by a Republican — any takers?
Someone inclusive and race tolerant like Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond and Trent lott.
November 30, 2004 - 05:30 PM on November 30th, 2004
dg, your sooooo filled with hatered. Its gonna eat you up.
November 30, 2004 - 05:33 PM on November 30th, 2004
dg, I think your the racist. You claim that the only reason Gutierrez was appointed to the post is because of his policical contributions. Like 12,000 would buy you a post. You, dg, think that a man like Gutierrez cannot get his post my merit. Actions….. speak louder than words. Although your words prove who the racist is.
November 30, 2004 - 05:36 PM on November 30th, 2004
if the past is staying with us re: Byrd – does William Renqhuist’s racist past count at all. a bunch of southern democrats in 1964 were racists.
i wouldn’t say racism goes along party lines & i’ll leave the objective study of history re: which party has emphasized equal rights to anyone. except anyone here.
November 30, 2004 - 05:39 PM on November 30th, 2004
Im sorry, weren’t the Repubs part of the civil rights act?
November 30, 2004 - 05:48 PM on November 30th, 2004
i wonder what the count of southern Republicans who didn’t claim state’s rights in 1964 was.
hell – they’re still claiming states rights and where have all the southern democrats gone?
the south is all red today, IMO, due to the civil rights act of 1964. & that’s why there aren’t any democrats left – cause it was the dems that made them so angry. & that’s why the only democrats elected president since 1964 came from the south.
November 30, 2004 - 06:09 PM on November 30th, 2004
I don’t think his personal contributions was the only reason Bush appointed him.
Bush has a pattern of filling top posts with officers of big corporations.
Don’t lecture me about racism.
Republicans always want to reform and “save” things they have historically opposed:
Affirmative action, medicare, social security…
November 30, 2004 - 07:01 PM on November 30th, 2004
If not corporate leaders, who should he hire?
November 30, 2004 - 07:31 PM on November 30th, 2004
peejz there’s learned men and women that corporation hite to cosult with them on what they should do. those are the experts. private sector educators, speiclists in their field, ya know, the folks who get the subcontracts to figure out how to solve these problems.
how about an envirnmentalist for secretary of the interior. not a whacko – someone who understand a consumer culture, waste and how to be efficient with our resources. why is that out of the question. why is the penbtagon filled with execs from lockheed and boeing and why is boeing & lockheed filled with ex generals? do you see a pattern?
November 30, 2004 - 07:39 PM on November 30th, 2004
Corporate leaders put corpoarate interests first:
US and International laws of trade and commerce will be utilized to benefit corporate profits, even if it means hurting American workers:
=”">”Gutierrez was credited with turning around Kellogg’s struggling finances, opening up new factories in Mexico…”
But, I will give ya this:
November 30, 2004 - 09:07 PM on November 30th, 2004
126. dg, I just lectured you about racism, because you talk social justice, yet at the same time try to destroy minorities that have accomplished great things simply because they dont “think” they way you think they should.
Ta daw!
December 1, 2004 - 08:15 AM on December 1st, 2004
dg, you prove yourself more of an idiotic bigot with each subsequent post…I truly pity you and your hatred.
December 1, 2004 - 08:21 AM on December 1st, 2004
Powell and Rice’s race have nothing to do with how they think and what I think of them.
They both told the lie about Iraq Bush ordered them to tell.
That’s not racism — that’s calling a liar a liar.
What you fail to acknowledge is the “Southern Strategy” used by Republicans that feeds off racism in the south.
And it is obviously working.
December 1, 2004 - 08:32 AM on December 1st, 2004
TAC, forget it, you can’t argue with this moron.. if there are no minorities among the republicans, dg will say they are racist, if there are prominent minorities (powell, rice) then they are uncle toms and the republicans are STILL racist, if the Republicans free the slaves, they are STILL racist, if the Republicans pass the civil rights act , they are STILL racist, if the republicans try to get poor miniority students out of the babysitting gulags that liberals call “public schools”, they are STILL racist.
Just accept it TAC, we are just racists, and it’s dg who is the greatest, kindest, most beneficent soul to have ever walked upright… (well..that’s yet to be proven).
December 1, 2004 - 08:34 AM on December 1st, 2004
by the way, dg.. you f-ing tool…. I have 3 words for you.
FOUR…..MORE……YEARS.
have a GREAT day!!
December 1, 2004 - 09:01 AM on December 1st, 2004
Your right mike, dg is a fool:razz:
December 1, 2004 - 09:04 AM on December 1st, 2004
hey, TAC, my racist brother! You down for some lynchings today???? Let’s go burn a church!! woo hoo!!!! I guess, according to the smartest homo sapien to ever walk the earth, dg, that’s what us republicans do!!
December 1, 2004 - 09:08 AM on December 1st, 2004
after burning churches, and beating some random gays, you know what I like to do? Yeah, that’s right…starve some old people!!
wwwooooo hooooooo!!!! fun fun fun!!!
December 1, 2004 - 09:11 AM on December 1st, 2004
Does sarcasm really further a point?
December 1, 2004 - 09:20 AM on December 1st, 2004
Reilly, sometimes. Demonstrating the absurd, by being absurd. I guess some of my black friends, who are more conservative than me, are racist too!
December 1, 2004 - 09:23 AM on December 1st, 2004
Knuckelheads like dg make this site worthwhile. I love dropping in and seeing what the looney left thinks. Debating them is a moot point though. They avoid the questions you give them. Shiloh, at least will answer what you ask him. He seems reasonable, unlike dg, who does as it’s told by his looney left masters.
December 1, 2004 - 09:25 AM on December 1st, 2004
Reilly, I just don’t get people like dg. Can you help me? I mean, anti-American, anti-Christian, pro-abortion, homo-luvin……… Its just a reprobate mind.
December 1, 2004 - 09:34 AM on December 1st, 2004
TAC, don’t waste your time.. dg is so filled with hatred and venom that it really is pathetic. To just sit around, constantly bitching and moaning..what kind of life must that be????
and to be so easily led…. yikes.
December 1, 2004 - 09:38 AM on December 1st, 2004
People who bitch and wine all the time should be subservient to people who take action and lead.
December 1, 2004 - 09:41 AM on December 1st, 2004
And they are TAC.
December 1, 2004 - 10:01 AM on December 1st, 2004
Yep, clearly.. all those “Blue State” whiners…..are being led by the “Red State” President, the Honorable George W. Bush.
December 1, 2004 - 10:04 AM on December 1st, 2004
some are born to lead, some to follow…
my favourite quote: “Only the lead mule gets a change of scenery”
December 1, 2004 - 10:15 AM on December 1st, 2004
The last few comments by Mike, TAC and peejz have given me this strange sense of deja vu.
December 1, 2004 - 10:21 AM on December 1st, 2004
You guys are not mentioning Alabama’s Nov 2 vote that was so shocking – the upholding of segregtion language in the laws governing schools, I’ve brought it up before and the conservatives haven’t touched it. But just about liberals being racist – I like Powell, and though he’s made his mistakes (Feb 7, 2003 I think), I am sorry to see the last moderate voice leave the Bush Administration. Rice has not distinguished herself. But she has proven to be more competent than Donald Rumsfeld. I know nothing of Gutierrez, but I’m sure he’s qualified.
December 1, 2004 - 10:27 AM on December 1st, 2004
wow.. an almost reasoned statement from sandyb… are you feeling ok???? I know the flu is going around (no thanks to Bush for not having any vaccine, right?)….. are you ok? I actually think Condoleeza Rice could and should be the first Black President.
it’s a shame those tolerant democrats call her “Aunt Jemimah”
December 1, 2004 - 10:45 AM on December 1st, 2004
Sandyb
“I know nothing of Gutierrez…”
See #129
December 1, 2004 - 05:47 PM on December 1st, 2004
I like how he’s looking at the Pres with those bedroom eyes….