UN Says We’re Stingy
U.N. official slams U.S. as ’stingy’ over aid
The Bush administration yesterday pledged $15 million to Asian nations hit by a tsunami that has killed more than 22,500 people, although the United Nations’ humanitarian-aid chief called the donation “stingy.”
“The United States, at the president’s direction, will be a leading partner in one of the most significant relief, rescue and recovery challenges that the world has ever known,” said White House deputy press secretary Trent Duffy.
But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being “stingy” with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.
It is horrible what this natural disaster has done and how many lives it has taken and families it has torn apart – - and the United States has sent twenty million dollars thus far (more than any other country) and will continue to send financial aid. This was just a first installment of what our nation has pledged to do to help these nations in trouble. Also many US workers are being deployed to the disaster areas to assist in the recovery and identifying the bodies as well as to help those who are in need or have been injured.
The United Nations calling the US stingy is ridiculous and way out of bounds. If they want to measure us by our relief efforts then might I ask where they have been during our natural disasters? Where were they when Florida was hit time after time by hurricanes this year?
Why doesn’t the UN dip into some of the oil for food money instead of wanting the US to raise taxes? That’s just stupid – - and they deserve the smack of the week for this one.
To learn more about this horrible natural disaster visit:
December 28, 2004 - 07:50 AM on December 28th, 2004
Fu*k the United Nations. The same people who let the genocide in Rwanda are going to lecture us? What a joke.
December 28, 2004 - 08:19 AM on December 28th, 2004
Saw that last night on the news.
When 9/11 hit, many of us gave willingly. Only to have the United Way and Red Cross attempt to misappropriate the funds.
$20 million, while a lot of money, is a drop in the bucket to what we could give, but it’s the biggest drop given by one country so far. But considering how the oil for food program went, I’d be a bit reluctant to funnel large amounts of money through the UN.
December 28, 2004 - 08:33 AM on December 28th, 2004
Its time give those stupud jackasses at the UN their eviction notices its high time to boot their sorry UN butts out of our country and that UN jerk should go and take a long walk off a short peir and just GET LOST
December 28, 2004 - 08:36 AM on December 28th, 2004
Quote from the article:
“It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really,” the Norwegian-born U.N. official (Jan Egeland) told reporters. “Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become.”
“There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy,” he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe “believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It’s not true. They want to give more.”
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It’s a rather ironic statement, considering the way many Europeans reacted to the role moral values played in the election.
If we want to give more, we’ll give more as individuals. We don’t need to be taxed to give it.
It shows me people like Egeland really don’t live in the same world as the rest of us. If he had it his way (the UN way), it would be a global feudal system. With the UN in charge, of course.
December 28, 2004 - 08:38 AM on December 28th, 2004
Those planes were flown into the wrong buildings in NY.
December 28, 2004 - 08:39 AM on December 28th, 2004
Is Kofi “the crook” Annan in shackles yet?
December 28, 2004 - 08:39 AM on December 28th, 2004
#2 – It is a drop in the bucket to what we could give, but it is also just the first installment – - by the time this is all said and done the US will have given billions.
December 28, 2004 - 08:41 AM on December 28th, 2004
Reilly, I thought you were going to say “just kidding, I made it all up!” But I guess not.
Sasha, as usual, your points are well thought out.
I am curious though. Did any nation offer support when Forida was hit this year?
December 28, 2004 - 08:43 AM on December 28th, 2004
I heard the death total is over 40,000.
December 28, 2004 - 08:45 AM on December 28th, 2004
8 – - Wish I could have said that to you, peejz – - but I can’t because I didn’t make it up.
December 28, 2004 - 08:47 AM on December 28th, 2004
They could move UN to … Belgium. Steve Forbes suggests a third world country.
What to do with the building itself? Great big parking gararge?
December 28, 2004 - 08:48 AM on December 28th, 2004
9 – It is. As of the lastest stats here are the numbers:
Confirmed dead – 44,355
Estimated dead – 62,000
Injured – 10,546
Missing – 80,000
Displaced – 1.5 – 2 million
December 28, 2004 - 08:48 AM on December 28th, 2004
10- I know, but man that just gets your blood boiling to read or hear something like that. You are right; when this is all said and done, we will have given billions.
December 28, 2004 - 08:49 AM on December 28th, 2004
Sasha- not a bad plan.
December 28, 2004 - 09:01 AM on December 28th, 2004
How Dare They!?
Yes Jan, the government and people of the US would love to give more. However, contemptible pricks like yourself are not trustworthy custodians of our aid money. We’ll work through the faith-based charities instead. They have a rule the UN has never …
December 28, 2004 - 09:23 AM on December 28th, 2004
This makes me mad. I was planning (and probably still will) give to World Vision, b/c there you know your money goes to the right place, but if the UN is thinking that our taxes should be raised, they have another think coming.
December 28, 2004 - 09:53 AM on December 28th, 2004
Stop all payments to the U.N. until this ass is removed.
December 28, 2004 - 10:02 AM on December 28th, 2004
When one considers percentage of GDP directed toward foreign aid, the US is the most stingy country in the world, though it gives the most money to the UN. The UN’s relief agencies are the best and most comprehensive in the world. Without the UN, for example, the US would have no leverage over Iran. It is not, remember, the US who is conducting talks, but the Europeons and UN Agencies. Scrapping the UN is a nostarter when you offer up no other suggestions.
I feel sick about the tsunamis three days ago.
December 28, 2004 - 10:09 AM on December 28th, 2004
Like I said, I’d prefer to go to World Vision and know my money is directed in the right place. I am on the WV site now, and it is super slow, so I am hoping that is indicitive of a lot of people showing support. Yes, it is a Christian org – but to me, all the better.
As Powell said, we will likely be giving a ton more – this is just the beginning. And like Peejz, I would ask, what countries helped us with Florida this year? I know the magnitude is not nearly of that as Asia right now, but it is an interesting question.
December 28, 2004 - 10:17 AM on December 28th, 2004
SandyB, you wondered why I thought you are stupid. Your post proves how stupid you are. We can manage for ourselves and we do not need the UN. The UN needs the US desperately, and would dry up and blow away without US troops for peacekeeping, US money to fund the bloated UN Bureaucracy and relief efforts that get plundered by UN officials and the governmnents the aid is sent to. Here’s an example you should be intimately aware of, Zimbabwe. Robert Mugabe and his family skim right off the top, and by the time any aid gets to where it is intended, there is none left.
SandyB, how would you like to be taxed 101.1% of your income to support the UN like Sweeden tried to tax its income producers in the 80s?
Sandy, you like Mr. Egeland, SHOULD PUT YOUR OWN MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. If you reach in my pocket to give to your causes, Sandy, I’ll break your arm off and beat you with it.
December 28, 2004 - 10:37 AM on December 28th, 2004
well said PCD…… but we should start putting OUR money where our mouths are…. find out the UN Budget, find out our share and withhold it from our tax….let’s see the IRS come after 200 million people.
December 28, 2004 - 10:44 AM on December 28th, 2004
so what, if anything would be in place of the UN?
cell phones? how many wars and tradgedies has the UN prevented over the years. like the man said about democracy, it may not work well sometimes, but it’s the best idea yet.
reading above, i’m reminded of this administration.
just tell us what we want to hear & everything will be fine & you’ll be our buddy.
disagree with us then of course you’re a traitor and a target for derision.
that comes from a false sense of superiority & thinking we’re always right.
we’re not.
December 28, 2004 - 10:47 AM on December 28th, 2004
“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant: It’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
- Ronald Reagan
“Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong.”
- Ronald Reagan
December 28, 2004 - 10:49 AM on December 28th, 2004
Shi, you are the one with the superiority complex, and you are hardly ever right.
Now, put facts where your spewage is shiloh. What did the UN ever avert with out the US?
December 28, 2004 - 10:53 AM on December 28th, 2004
pcd – the UN has brokered many cease fires and administered aide all over the world with the US either not being involved at all, or contributing little. your America first thinking is ethnocentric & provincial.
December 28, 2004 - 11:00 AM on December 28th, 2004
What has the UN done for us in times of need, shiloh? I am asking seriously – b/c I really don’t know. What did they do when we had the major hurricanes or the earthquake in CA?
Or is this a case of the richest should pay…I guess that WOULD go along with your mentality. The most successful get punished.
December 28, 2004 - 11:05 AM on December 28th, 2004
K did we go to the UN for help during the events you mentioned?
December 28, 2004 - 11:08 AM on December 28th, 2004
19,20
You guys are right that the UN needs the US. But you are not right that it should be giving aid priority to the US. UN relief agencies like UNICEF exist in order to save lives in countries which starvation is a reality.
Unfortunately PCD, you as a citizen of the US, has no say in where your tax dollars are spent. Many people in the US are paying taxes to fund a war they never supported and still do not. Morally, I think you have less of a beef.
December 28, 2004 - 11:14 AM on December 28th, 2004
UNICEF- is an organization that stands for relief of starvation, but in reality, it does not come through as we can clearly see throughout Africa.
December 28, 2004 - 11:15 AM on December 28th, 2004
28,
Peejz, I think you are wrong. UNICEF meets its (sadly necessarily) modest goals. So, your solution if the UN is scrapped or the US pulls out?
December 28, 2004 - 11:16 AM on December 28th, 2004
26 – no idea…I did what I just did now – give money a charity for aide…I’d prefer to give what I can afford to give. See, when you let me keep more of my money, I am happy to share it where I can.
December 28, 2004 - 11:17 AM on December 28th, 2004
26 – no.
December 28, 2004 - 11:21 AM on December 28th, 2004
I also gave money to GW’s campaign and got an awfully nice note from him yesterday – it was personalized with my name and even mentioned how AZ helped him out. Amazing what they can do with handwriting software these days!
December 28, 2004 - 11:23 AM on December 28th, 2004
32,
That’s not charity, K.
December 28, 2004 - 11:24 AM on December 28th, 2004
33 – I think I know that – I just thought it was a cute note!
December 28, 2004 - 11:24 AM on December 28th, 2004
(it was also not a taxable donation)
December 28, 2004 - 11:27 AM on December 28th, 2004
Charities, even large one, can’t do what the UN does world wide.
December 28, 2004 - 11:29 AM on December 28th, 2004
I don’t think I am Sandy.
Administrative costs for “regional offices” and headquarters is $346 million — more than a third of the approximately $1 billion budget.
This doesn’t include spending on UNICEF’s 210 field offices or the organization’s “national committees,” which raise 35 percent of the agency’s budget and keep 25 percent to 40 percent of what they raise to cover their own administrative expenses.
An independent audit in 1994 by Booz, Allen, & Hamilton found bloated overhead costs, lack of financial control and a proclivity for luxury travel accommodations and overstaffing.
There has also been corruption, with UNICEF’s Nairobi, Kenya staff accused of stealing $1 million in relief funds and wasting $8 million to $9 million more.
But the real scandal, according to some, is that UNICEF is issuing medically unsound advice. It is actively discouraging use of prepared infant formula in Africa, even though studies suggest that around 14 percent of uninfected babies could acquire an HIV infection if breast-fed by their HIV-positive mothers. One South African study, reported in the New York Times, put the risk at 28 percent.
Source: Nicholas Eberstadt (American Enterprise Institute and Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies), “Trick and Mistreat,” New Republic, November 10, 1997.
December 28, 2004 - 11:32 AM on December 28th, 2004
Those things are true, but they don’t contradict what I said, nor do you propose any alternative. Bureaucratic costs are inevitable in large charities (especially the largest one), and the economics you describe would be similar to many other charities (in fact, perhaps even much better, percentage-wise).
December 28, 2004 - 11:38 AM on December 28th, 2004
Sandy- what good is the organization if the money it is given doesn’t get to the people it was intended for? How can you state it meets its “modest” goals? Maybe they would not be so modest if more money was funneled to the people it is intended for rather than the middle man staying in 5 star hotels. Maybe more American would give if UNICEF stood by its original goal. Hunger relief. Did we ask them to branch out to abortion rights and human sexuality?
December 28, 2004 - 11:40 AM on December 28th, 2004
36-Sure they can Sandy, an organization doesn’t have to be big to sit around and embezzle its funding while it ignores genocide and appeases the french. And what mentality says we need an alternative? We should pull out, and if (when) the UN crumbles under their own weight, so much the better. We’ll have defeated one of our biggest enemies!
December 28, 2004 - 11:50 AM on December 28th, 2004
Would you not call funding an organization dedicated to working daily against your own interests….FRIGGIN’ STUPID??????
December 28, 2004 - 11:54 AM on December 28th, 2004
For those of you religiously inclined, I see that Scrappleface has a good charity listed for donations.
December 28, 2004 - 11:56 AM on December 28th, 2004
Sandy and Shi, HOW MUCH DID EACH OF YOU GIVE, excluding taxes, TO THE UN OR TO TSUNAMI RELIEF???
Hypocrites!!!!!
Sandy, in your Progressive little mind, your fellow travelers, though not a majority, constitute “many” and therefore should get your way. “F” you! I have to fund union demonstration programs that keep Da union Goon’s union alive with my tax dollars. There taxes going to guard RICH Democrat politicians like Hillary that could be put to MUCH better use. So don’t get on your moral equivalency high horse booby!
Again, Shiloh can’t be specific. Shi, tell us how the UN is doing in Haita, Dar-whatever it is, in the Sudan? Oh, tell us about Rwanda. Kofi Annan was all over that wasn’t he. How many lives did he save????
December 28, 2004 - 11:58 AM on December 28th, 2004
42 – Lee, I mentioned above that World Vision (also Christian) seems to be a good place – even Hugh Hewitt thinks so
December 28, 2004 - 12:12 PM on December 28th, 2004
hey…don’t you dare accuse liberals of hypocrisy!!!
John F. Simoes Ferierra Heinz Kennedy Kohn dosen’t own an SUV…wait..maybe he does, oh, no, those are his wife’s…oops, maybe I do..I don’t know…..
F’ing lying, traiterous hypocrites..every one of them.
December 28, 2004 - 12:12 PM on December 28th, 2004
Yeah K, we’re just a bunch of stingy bastards. Better raise our taxes or we’ll just keep it all for ourselves!
December 28, 2004 - 12:24 PM on December 28th, 2004
Note…to..self…don’t eat gummy bears for breakfast…
December 28, 2004 - 12:33 PM on December 28th, 2004
pcd – try to get your thoughts together, ask a specific question and i will consider it. please don’t shotgun questions as statements.
December 28, 2004 - 12:40 PM on December 28th, 2004
hey dickhead…shut your cakehole..no one cares what you think.
F-ing scarecrow
December 28, 2004 - 12:56 PM on December 28th, 2004
thanks for your input. as soon as i care what you think, i’ll be sure to advise you. otherwise….
December 28, 2004 - 01:07 PM on December 28th, 2004
Kilo
if you want to talk about liars, why not talk about your dickead man Bush who lied his ass off about Iraq and now your brothers-in-arms are getting killed (what is the reason again?)
I’ll vote for a guy who lies about blowjobs and SUV’s before a cocksuker like your boyfriend George Dumber-than-you Bush. (Actually, you are dumber thab Bush!)
Where are those WMDs? I thought the Iraqis would worship us as liberators? Have major combat operations ended?
The French, the Germans, the UN all wanted the inspections to continue. Bush “knew for a fact” Saddam had WMD. Who was right?
Go back to target practice. Stay away from politics until you can comprehend the facts! Don’t you have a tank or something to drive?
December 28, 2004 - 01:15 PM on December 28th, 2004
I knew it was only a matter of time…
One would think all the gloom & doomers would be in an orgasmic state with such staggering amounts of death and destruction. And the end is nowhere in sight.
December 28, 2004 - 01:23 PM on December 28th, 2004
Rwanda, Sudan, Haiti…
Unpaid parking tickets, Oil for food, UNICEF Scandal…
Unenforced resolutions, lack of spine, lack of resolve.
Seemingly won’t rest until Israel doesn’t exist.
Yep, that’s an impressive organization that UN.
December 28, 2004 - 01:27 PM on December 28th, 2004
Sasha, you always ask me for answers when i point out troubles.
what’s your fix for the list in 53?
December 28, 2004 - 01:32 PM on December 28th, 2004
54: Two solutions come to mind.
Relocate the UN to one of those problem areas
Or
Dismantle the UN altogether
By the way, I was pointing out some of the examples of the UN at work.
You never give solutions, you just want the issue.
December 28, 2004 - 01:45 PM on December 28th, 2004
Was the UN useless when Reagn/Bush protected Saddam from UN condemnation:
“Department of State Cable from George P. Shultz to the Mission to the European Office of the United Nations and Other International Organizations. “U.N. Human Rights Commission: Item 12: Iranian Resolution on Use of Chemical Weapons by Iraq,” March 14, 1984.
The State Department instructs the U.S. delegate to the United Nations to get the support of other Western missions for a motion of “no decision” regarding Iran’s draft resolution condemning Iraq’s use of chemical weapons. Failing that, the U.S. is to abstain on the resolution.”
While Saddam had and used WMD, Reagan/Bush protected him.
Talk about hypocrites!
December 28, 2004 - 01:48 PM on December 28th, 2004
55 – that’s a lie sasha. look back at my answers to your challenges. you may not like them but they’re there.
December 28, 2004 - 01:55 PM on December 28th, 2004
I looked at/for them when I asked. I saw things about everybody uniting and taking over, trees not getting along with horses, and someone putting crayons in toasters, but nothing in the way of a relevant answer to be found.
December 28, 2004 - 01:59 PM on December 28th, 2004
Does anybody want to explain why Reagan/Bush protected Saddam from the UN when he used chemical weapons?
Kilo? TAC? PCP? peejz? Anybody?
December 28, 2004 - 01:59 PM on December 28th, 2004
That’s been done to death and it still hasn’t gotten you any traction.
December 28, 2004 - 02:03 PM on December 28th, 2004
59? Huh? I thought you said in Post 51 there were no weapons?
December 28, 2004 - 02:04 PM on December 28th, 2004
Don’t bitch about the UN until your Republican warmongers can be consistent.
You complain about the UN which has been right about Saddam twice when Reagan and two Bush’s were wrong.
December 28, 2004 - 02:06 PM on December 28th, 2004
K, remember what we were talking about the other day? It still holds true.
December 28, 2004 - 02:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
yeah, that 50 gazzionith sanction would have worked.
and all of congress is wrong too. including kerry, who voted for the war.
until he decided not to pay for it.
sasha, we’ve talked about a lot of stuff – refresh me.
December 28, 2004 - 02:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
58 – of course. you’re right. what was i thinking? you’re objective so why would i think you’re full of crap?
my answers are shit – your’s are the dew that drops from heaven itself.
this is so lame. where are the friggin adults?
December 28, 2004 - 02:14 PM on December 28th, 2004
62 – I’ll bitch about the UN as much as I want as long as you’re bitching about Bush.
For that, you get another Reagan quote:
“Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.”
- Ronald Reagan
December 28, 2004 - 02:14 PM on December 28th, 2004
There were no WMD after 1991:
“. . . they [sanctions] have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place . . .”
Secretary Colin L. Powell
Cairo, Egypt (Ittihadiya Palace)
February 24, 2001
The fact is, when Reagan/Bush knew Saddam had WMD in 1984, we protected him from the UN.
When the UN said to give inspections more time in 2003, we invaded anyway.
The UN was right both times — the Republican warmongers were wrong both times.
How in hell can you guys cover for this?
December 28, 2004 - 02:21 PM on December 28th, 2004
RE: #66
That summerizes the Reagn Administration to a “T” as over 200 Reagan Administration officials when to prison or resigned under a cloud.
Reagan wanted less government, yet he presided over the largest Administration in US history while running up the largest amount of debt in history — until GWBush came along.
Talk about waste. Anyone looking for a $500 military hammer?
December 28, 2004 - 02:21 PM on December 28th, 2004
they clearly DIDN’T work or congress would not have gone to war!!! February 2001???
how can you say he had no weapons? how can you say it wasn’t moved? how can you say serin gas is not a weapon? how can you say sadaam himself is not a weapon? and even if there were no weapons, who gives a flying f%ck? did you notice OBL getting a little involved in these elections in iraq?????
December 28, 2004 - 02:22 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg – why do you live here? so much anger. i don’t get it.
December 28, 2004 - 02:34 PM on December 28th, 2004
Colin Powell says they DID work. If they didn’t work, we would have found WMD! So your Iraq war and the policy of “pre-emption” are colossal failures.
And if Saddam is himself a WMD, why did Reagan/Bush help him obtain weapons all through the 80’s and protect him from the UN when he used chemical weapons?
See? No consistancy.
December 28, 2004 - 02:38 PM on December 28th, 2004
WHat about the CIA arming and training Osama?
The U.S. needs to keep a closer eye on its “friends”
December 28, 2004 - 02:39 PM on December 28th, 2004
K — why don’t you ever remark on kilo’s anger or TAC’s anger or PCP’s anger? Don’t be such a one sided hypocrite.
The facts lay before you and you choose to ignore them. Yet, you continue to spew out your warmonger rhetoric.
December 28, 2004 - 02:46 PM on December 28th, 2004
I have commented on Kilo’s remarks. Read the archives. However, their anger and questions are not directed at me, so I think the person they are addressing can take care of themselves. I didn’t sign up to babysit. While they may go over the top, I agree with most of the content, not always the delivery.
I do not believe the sanctions worked – he chose to IGNORE them! Why did Congress agree to this war?
And even if the premise turned out to be wrong, it was not because Bush LIED, he and others voted on the intelligence that was there! Further, now we are cleaning up the terrorists…with 2 messages from OBL since 10/04, clearly showing he is running scared.
December 28, 2004 - 02:49 PM on December 28th, 2004
I think perhaps Mike Kilo has some real anger issues, and not just here.
December 28, 2004 - 02:50 PM on December 28th, 2004
well, this warmonger has to do some work. how funny is it that i am working for a defense client that is building better missiles for our military.
December 28, 2004 - 02:52 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg – she does rebuke them from time to time/ just a whole lot nicer than we do. she may claim to be ‘one of the guys’ but she’s a lasy at heart.
December 28, 2004 - 02:53 PM on December 28th, 2004
That’s funny. I work on upgrading the military also. Not missiles though.
December 28, 2004 - 02:59 PM on December 28th, 2004
77: Huh? Lasy? Did you mean Lass or Lassie (Scottish girl, not the dog)?
December 28, 2004 - 03:00 PM on December 28th, 2004
ZELDA!
How’s life with the crack pipe? Where have you been?
December 28, 2004 - 03:03 PM on December 28th, 2004
oops – lady not lasy.
December 28, 2004 - 03:05 PM on December 28th, 2004
I have anger issues??? I think not, apricot!!
other that wishing a slow, painful death for Shitloh (preferably at my hands), I’m a big teddy bear!!!!!
dg, you could drag your sorry ass anywhere near pHilly, ny or DC for a beating too, if you like.
December 28, 2004 - 03:08 PM on December 28th, 2004
Mike, admitting it is half of the battle.
December 28, 2004 - 03:09 PM on December 28th, 2004
81: Oh. Okay. I feel like I’ve been typing with my elbows lately. But you saved me a trip to dictionary.com
December 28, 2004 - 03:20 PM on December 28th, 2004
If sanctions did not work, then why did Powell say they did just months before 9/11?
If they did not work, why haven’t we found the WMD?
If sanctions don’t work, why did the UN draw up another (1441) that demanded Saddam disarm?
And if Saddam had no WMD, how could he disarm.
As far as congress voting for the war, here’s what Kerry said before he voted:
“Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.
In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days–to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out.”
Bush failed his committments and could not disarm Saddam because there are no WMD in Iraq and Bush knew it — Colin Powell had just said so!
December 28, 2004 - 03:30 PM on December 28th, 2004
RE: #82
Words of a true passionate conservative pro-Life Warmonger.
I’ll bet kilo’s superiors take extra joy in pounding his pud into the mud whenever he spouts that mouth off.
December 28, 2004 - 03:34 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, a perfect example of typical liberal thinking: we did the wrong thing in the past and therefore we have no right to do the right thing now. I also like the way in #51 you idolize the french, germans and UN who were profiting from the sanctions that “were working” but you’re so quick to blame everything on Bush. I guess the oil for food thingy must have been Bush’s fault too. You get mad when you’re called anti-American, but that sure sounds like anti-American reasoning to me. And we’re the hypocrites. Get a clue.
Sasha, take over for me; I gotta drive home for a few hours now!
December 28, 2004 - 03:34 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, what the HELL are you talking about?
Who the hell are my superiors?
Are you referring to the military, because I got out of the Navy in 1993…so you are a little late…..when did you get out..by the way?
December 28, 2004 - 03:36 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, MIke doesn’t have an anger issue, he has a confidnece issue
December 28, 2004 - 03:39 PM on December 28th, 2004
you mean over-confidence…maybe. If knowing that I’m smarter, stronger, and can pull hotter birds than any of you lefties means overconfident..then yes.
December 28, 2004 - 03:41 PM on December 28th, 2004
the very fact that you can rationalize threats of violence exposes some kind of problem.
December 28, 2004 - 03:43 PM on December 28th, 2004
F you, scarecrow.
hey dg.. how exactly do you explain accusing President George W. Bush (ah, I love saying that!) of lying about Saddam’s WMD’s, then bitch about reagan arming saddam with WMD’s????
Are mass graves of Kurds not evidence enough for you of WMD’s?
oh, I forgot, you go by the French/German standard for proof………
haha
December 28, 2004 - 03:43 PM on December 28th, 2004
kilo,
what kinda car do you drive?
December 28, 2004 - 03:44 PM on December 28th, 2004
Now Egeland said he has been misrepresented.
It was his mouth uttering the words.
December 28, 2004 - 03:47 PM on December 28th, 2004
Mike, talk is cheap
December 28, 2004 - 03:49 PM on December 28th, 2004
Kilo
read post #67 —
“The State Department instructs the U.S. delegate to the United Nations to get the support of other Western missions for a motion of “no decision”regarding Iran’s draft resolution condemning Iraq’s use of chemical weapons. Failing that, the U.S. is to abstain on the resolution.â€
What was Reagan/Bush’s Secretary of State trying to say? What does he mean to “abstain on the resolution’?
December 28, 2004 - 04:28 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, forget your lithium today? Your anit-American side is out today in force.
December 28, 2004 - 04:41 PM on December 28th, 2004
TAC
Is supporting Saddam Hussein unpatriotic?
December 28, 2004 - 04:47 PM on December 28th, 2004
Is supporting Saddam Hussein Anti-American, TAC?
December 28, 2004 - 05:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
53- Do you reall think there would be peace if we allowed all the jews to be murdered?
December 28, 2004 - 05:16 PM on December 28th, 2004
94- Jackass
December 28, 2004 - 05:27 PM on December 28th, 2004
RE: #87
“. . . we did the wrong thing in the past and therefore we have no right to do the right thing now.”
It seems the same cast of characters are continuously do “the wrong thing.”
These guys (Reagan/Bush — 41&43/Rumsfeld) haven’t got it right yet — even after 20+ years!
December 28, 2004 - 05:28 PM on December 28th, 2004
Da union Goon, why are you such a deluded idiot? You receive one too many education sessions from Union Picket Line Enforcers?
Next time you think Michael Moore’s propaganda piece is the truth, just think of being subject to Union education for each lie he tells that you don’t acknowledge is a lie, that includes each time Moore replaces the dialog as taped with Moore’s scripted dubbing.
For you non-union fanatics, this would mean DG would get kneecapped for each lie, and then DG’s legs and jaw would be next. How many bones could DG stand to be broken in Da union Goon’s stubborn defiance in the face of truth.
December 28, 2004 - 05:29 PM on December 28th, 2004
102 – in your opinion, anyway.
December 28, 2004 - 05:30 PM on December 28th, 2004
K- Thanks for the info on World Vision. The percentage of administrative costs is very low! Great pick. That mean more dollars to those who need it!
December 28, 2004 - 05:31 PM on December 28th, 2004
shiloh, you ran when I asked how much you took from your own pocket and donated to the UN or the Tsunami victims. By running you tell us you were too greedy and selfish to part with even a penny, but your fat ass wants to raise everyone’s taxes. What a piece of socialist dung.
December 28, 2004 - 05:33 PM on December 28th, 2004
If only he had a brain!:roll: I thought for sure Santa might give him one!
December 28, 2004 - 05:34 PM on December 28th, 2004
Saddam and Rummy
December 28, 2004 - 05:35 PM on December 28th, 2004
peejz, why are you copying Mike’s little pet name?
December 28, 2004 - 05:36 PM on December 28th, 2004
105 – sure – for every $100, they get about $95 – which i thought was great!
December 28, 2004 - 05:37 PM on December 28th, 2004
pcd – i am so tired of your aggressive nonsensical thoughtless ideological drivel that saying i would run from anything you say is crazy talk. ignoring you doesn’t seem to work either.
i must admit – i’m out of ideas.
December 28, 2004 - 05:37 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, 20 years ago we aided saddam to keep Iran busy. Therefore we wouldn’t be fighting your Marxist brethren in the Soviet Union and defending Iseral at the same time.
December 28, 2004 - 05:38 PM on December 28th, 2004
This has nothing to do with Mike. Dg is not capable of keeping up in a conversation. He reuses quotes taken out of context time and again.
December 28, 2004 - 05:38 PM on December 28th, 2004
RE: #104
Fact:
Reagn/Bush were wrong to “abstain on the resolution . . . condemning Iraq’s use of chemical weapons.”
Fact:
Bush was wrong when he said he “knew for a fact” there were stockpiles of WMD and that Iraq was an imminent threat.
How many Americans have been killed because of ill-planned military adventures spawned by Reagan and Both Bush’s?
December 28, 2004 - 05:39 PM on December 28th, 2004
When Saddam aided, paid terrorist, and invaded his neighbors, he became our enemy.
December 28, 2004 - 05:39 PM on December 28th, 2004
110- Phenominal in my opinion! I sent the info to family and friends! Thanks again.
December 28, 2004 - 05:41 PM on December 28th, 2004
114 – DG – please spend some time refuting all of these.
December 28, 2004 - 05:44 PM on December 28th, 2004
France has donated $136,000 to the relief effort.
December 28, 2004 - 05:46 PM on December 28th, 2004
117 – oh, and before you think they are all taken out of context, the context is provided below the quotes. and many were made after your little powell quote.
December 28, 2004 - 05:46 PM on December 28th, 2004
The entire UN has contributed what, 4 million, and us, 15?
December 28, 2004 - 05:47 PM on December 28th, 2004
It’s easy to refute — Saddam has not had stockpiles of WMD since 1991.
Now keep coming up with reasons why Reagan/Bush supported Saddam Hussein’s use of chemical weapons and protected him from UN sanctions.
December 28, 2004 - 05:47 PM on December 28th, 2004
120- oops, I meant EU! UN on the brain.
December 28, 2004 - 05:48 PM on December 28th, 2004
121 – very funny. you are claiming bush lied and sent our boys to iraq based on…nothing. look at what your little nancy pelosi even said.
December 28, 2004 - 05:57 PM on December 28th, 2004
123- It was my hope to get through the rest of the year without hearing her name. Thanks K
December 28, 2004 - 06:04 PM on December 28th, 2004
peejz..wow, France really opened up the pocketbook…..maybe that 136K would be better spent on deodorant.
December 28, 2004 - 06:04 PM on December 28th, 2004
Shiloh, Keep running. Either answer a simple question or LEAVE! Tell us how much money of your own, not taxes, not money you collected on the street, but money you earned that you gave the UN or gave to a Tsunami Relief fund like the Red Cross.
I say you are a fas assed hypocrite who demands everyone else fund your charitable urges, but not one penny from your assets. YOu are a fat ass.
December 28, 2004 - 06:08 PM on December 28th, 2004
126 – make believe i’m running and left, afraid to respond to you.
poof…& i’m gone.
December 28, 2004 - 06:23 PM on December 28th, 2004
PCD…he’s actually a skinny, rather homely, scarecrow looking mother F@#Ker
December 28, 2004 - 06:24 PM on December 28th, 2004
Shiloh, thank you for being a greedy, selfish Progressive. We can use you as exhibit #1 when we point out how useless, hypocritical, and how low progressives are. As your fat assed idol said, “Thank you Verry, verry much!”
December 28, 2004 - 06:28 PM on December 28th, 2004
you have to admit, lefties like Shitloh make a great vocal minority…loud, stupid, anti-american…… we have to keep some of them around, just so we can remember what terrorist coddlers, communist sympathizers, baby-killers, look like.
Thanks Shitloh.
December 28, 2004 - 06:33 PM on December 28th, 2004
having you guys post back to back is the best example i can give of why the right is held is such disrepute.
ta.
December 28, 2004 - 06:34 PM on December 28th, 2004
Mike, I know shiloh aggravates you, but must you always attack him? There are other ways to get your point across
December 28, 2004 - 06:37 PM on December 28th, 2004
43,
I give to UNICEF, PCD, so that wouldn’t make me a hypocrite. If you compare the expenditures (overhead) of UNICEF with charities like World Vision, those percentages are comparable. Simply because the UN didn’t follow the US into war in Iraq doiesn’t mean, Kilo, that they operate contrary to our interests. You speak as if the United States doesn’t have a veto and a major leadership role in the UN or something.
I wouldn’t call myself any of your wonderful euphemisms in post 130. Bad names don’t make arguments for you, Mike. Please refer me to when I expressed sympathy for Communism and terrorism and advocating the killing of babies.
December 28, 2004 - 06:38 PM on December 28th, 2004
132- Sabor I know your heart is in the right place(no pun intended) but shiloh thrives on the attacks. It gives him the attention he desires.
December 28, 2004 - 06:40 PM on December 28th, 2004
I got my point across Nov. 2nd.
as long as he is here…on OUR sit, with his innane, condescending bull$hit…I will be here to smack him in his pansy ass face.
You libs are so used to being loud and aggressive, you can’t take it when it gets thrown back…in your face.
get used to the new, UN silent majority.
December 28, 2004 - 06:41 PM on December 28th, 2004
Shiloh,
Why do you refuse to answer anyone’s questions? I’d very much like to hear what you think the UN had done right in it’s history. The problem with the UN is it never solves anything. It is a nice forum where all nations can have a voice, but that is all. A lot of talk and no action. So why should we continue to fund an organization that can at best be described as an abject failure? Once again I’ll ask, what has the UN ever done right? Name some of their successes.
December 28, 2004 - 06:42 PM on December 28th, 2004
peejz, maybe so, but it doesn’t justify Mike’s threats of bodily harm
December 28, 2004 - 06:43 PM on December 28th, 2004
Sandy- how do you think .05 cents(World Relief) on the dollar spent, as opposed to .31 cents(UNICEF) on the dollar spent, is comparable?
December 28, 2004 - 06:44 PM on December 28th, 2004
Drake,
You don’t understand.. Shitloh dosent think it’s a problem to have a UN Human rights committee chaired by the likes of Lybia and China…after all, in his bizarre-o-world of moral relativism, the US is as guilty of human rights violations as they are…right shitloh?
December 28, 2004 - 06:46 PM on December 28th, 2004
134 – peejz – i can’t tell you in any more plain language that you’re wrong. i would much rather carry on a conversation on a more mature plane, but when i show up and am called names without reason, just for being i think you have to cast your eye elsewhere for solutions to the strife.
i do not thrive on negativity and can do quite well without that kind of attention.
of course, you will believe what you will, no matter what i say, but your mistaken impression on what i’m doing here i thought should be addressed.
December 28, 2004 - 06:47 PM on December 28th, 2004
you’ll never penetrate his “hate america first” thick skull…no matter how hard you try.
and I only threaten him with bodily harm because I can…conservatives are not 60 year old, racist white men from the south..they are young, educated, and in my case, big enough to kick some ass……… you show me a dirt bag, pot-smoking lefty trying to cause some mayhem near me, and I’ll show you a bleeding lefty.
December 28, 2004 - 06:48 PM on December 28th, 2004
I think someone got his feelings hurt!
December 28, 2004 - 06:49 PM on December 28th, 2004
This is OUR country..not theirs… I took up arms in it’s defense, and i’ll put up my fists in defense of it now, against anyone who sides with our enemies (shitloh, dg, simon)…speakin of simon…. I’d love to be in a locked room with that tough guy..provided his mommy lets him out of the basement.
December 28, 2004 - 06:51 PM on December 28th, 2004
and anyone who dosent think the UN and it’s advocates are the enemy is full of pissin wind.
December 28, 2004 - 06:52 PM on December 28th, 2004
Sandy, I’d call you STUPID! You want to take care of an orphaned child? ADOPT him or her. I did.
I did not require a tax subsidy for the adoption. Oh, SandyB, if you dare mention abortion in this Korean girl’s face, she’ll kick your face in so far you great-great-grandmother will have a crotch ache.
Sandy is the typical Progressive. She supports ineffective, bureauracy laden entities that waste more money than the get to fill the actual need and Sandy calls herself good.
I say we tax Sandy 101.1% of her income and send it to the Marinc Corps Charity hat funds scholarships for the children of fallen Marines. Better then 90% of the money to that charity gets to the kids. Makes UNICEF look like what it is, a rip off of the charitable, and the stupid like Sandyb.
December 28, 2004 - 06:56 PM on December 28th, 2004
PCD…wasting your breath, my friend…. in sandyb’s world, the government is king…. all knowing, all providing, cradle to grave…. we mere mortals are too stupid, too easily led to decide for OURSELVES how to manage money, charity, etc…we need Hillary!!!!!
I can’t wait for her to run in ‘08, and I pray she puts that phoney black man Barack Osama on the ticket.
December 28, 2004 - 06:57 PM on December 28th, 2004
Mike, are all democrats ememies to you?
December 28, 2004 - 06:57 PM on December 28th, 2004
shiloh, it is self evident that you keep coming here for abuse. You never too the high plane in any converstation. I remember your first arrogant, condescending post about how you’d come to enlighten us. Well now, Shove it you greedy fat ass. How much negativity do you want? You hide behind a keyboard, but you will never go face to face unless your fat ass is guarded 8 ways from Sunday by anti-american ACLU shysters.
December 28, 2004 - 06:58 PM on December 28th, 2004
sabor…
of course not.. my girlfriend is basically a liberal…though, luckily she can’t vote!!!!
People like shitloh are the enemy, because they would seriously rather we cede our sovereignty to some banana republic potentate like Kofi Anan……or worse….france.
December 28, 2004 - 06:59 PM on December 28th, 2004
My girlfriend is pro-choice, pro gay marriage, and against the war in Iraq..and I love her very much!
December 28, 2004 - 06:59 PM on December 28th, 2004
funny
December 28, 2004 - 07:02 PM on December 28th, 2004
Yeah it is….. don’t get me wrong, I’m actually a pretty level-headed, likable fellow! I just go over the top a lot here, in part, to demonstrate to the wild-eyed lefties, that we are here on the right, just as brash, just as passionate….this is a NEW thing.. and it’s good. I’ll tell you what though, I get in debates with my girl, and basically bow out…. I’m not stupid..I’m not SLEEPING ON THE COUCH!!!!!
December 28, 2004 - 07:02 PM on December 28th, 2004
150: Sounds like you would love shiloh
December 28, 2004 - 07:04 PM on December 28th, 2004
the first time I told her I was pro-life and against gay marriage, she looked like I just served her a hot steaming turd!!!!
December 28, 2004 - 07:05 PM on December 28th, 2004
it’s one thing to be a compassionate liberal, it’s wholly another to be a blind Bush hater…and I think dg, shitloh, and certainly simon fit in to the latter
December 28, 2004 - 07:07 PM on December 28th, 2004
and that’s really the difference between them and I… I could tell you 10 things that I respect and / or support about Billy Blowjob.. I defy you to find the same sort of objective views from them on President Bush.
December 28, 2004 - 07:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
maybe you should ask them to be sure
December 28, 2004 - 07:23 PM on December 28th, 2004
ask them what?
December 28, 2004 - 07:24 PM on December 28th, 2004
If there is anything positive they see in Bush
December 28, 2004 - 07:29 PM on December 28th, 2004
how i got into a position that i am asked to defend the UN is not based on anything i said in this forum. as far as pcd asking me how much outof pocket i’ve given to flood relief, is he serious? he wants a dollar figure?
i find it interesting & [insert your own adjective here0 how peejz, pcd, kilo & sasha ascribe beliefs to me, like all liberals all believe exactly the same thing, then condemn me for the beliefs they’ve ascribed.i don’t even have to be in that
December 28, 2004 - 07:30 PM on December 28th, 2004
ok, I’ll play along…
to all of the left-leaning posters….sandyb, shiloh, dg…can you name me some things that you like / respect / agree with vis a vis President George W. Bush????
December 28, 2004 - 07:39 PM on December 28th, 2004
136 – Drake. i don’t know if what the UN does for a living is clearly understood to those who only see it as a body that deliberastes on war and peace and security. does it count if it teaches a man to fish?
they fail, they succeed, just like us, they try their best. my basic opinion was expressed in post #21. it’s the best we’ve got. those who think we don’t need it i believe are shortsighted.
some UN missions
December 28, 2004 - 07:50 PM on December 28th, 2004
161 – well i could say this:
1. He has successfully rid America of that troubling budget surplus and turned it into a $500 billion deficit.
2. He has successfully helped America’s trading partners have the highest trade surplus with us in America’s history.
3. He has successfully lowered the taxes for the richest Americans and corporations at the expense of 99% of the American population.
4. He has successfully started another Viet Nam in Iraq after lying to the whole world.
5. He has successfully pushed the price of gas up to the highest level ever here in America.
6. He has successfully allowed American corporations to dramatically increase their pollution.
7. He has successfully thrown about 10% of the population out of work.
8. He has successfully allowed corporations to export our best middle-class jobs.
9. He has successfully divided our country as never before.
10. He has successfully driven our oldest allies away.
11. He has successfully united the terrorists as never before (he said all along he was a uniter, not a divider).
12. He has successfully broken his oath to uphold the constitution of the United States of America.
but i won’t say that in that i’m playing peacemaker as kil said he’d “play along”.
so will say this:
I hear from my friends in Northern California that the Weott Indian tribe is happy with a conservation plan put into place by Bush’s Interior Department that has improved the tribes salmon catch the last 2 years.
good work. exemplary. keep it up.
December 28, 2004 - 07:50 PM on December 28th, 2004
So why should US tax payers finance new digs for these bunch of crooks and hoods they have cuased suffering and misery for many countries and why do we need to even tolerate their dirty work since koffi annan is a crinimal who has violated New Yorks stricy gun control and i,ll bet even has broken numerous laws its time to defund these UN jerks and evict the UN from american soil forever:mad::mad:
December 28, 2004 - 07:56 PM on December 28th, 2004
December 28, 2004 - 07:57 PM on December 28th, 2004
139 – kilo is that what i believe about the Human Rights Committee? telling others that i believe it doesn’t make it so. then condemnming me for it is cheap.
would you believe me if i told you that i think having a country that does not practice humanitarian treatment of their people chairing such a group, just because it’s their turn is idiotic.
but making things up about people you disagree with is such a dear habit or yours, i wouldn’t want you to stop just because it exposes you as a fraud.
December 28, 2004 - 08:04 PM on December 28th, 2004
OPEN VIOLENCE!
:lol::lol:
December 28, 2004 - 08:21 PM on December 28th, 2004
Hey there!
December 28, 2004 - 08:28 PM on December 28th, 2004
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!
December 28, 2004 - 08:30 PM on December 28th, 2004
You mean a happy holiday. j.k.
December 28, 2004 - 08:36 PM on December 28th, 2004
Hey sis, you haven’t missd much. Got a puppy for Christmas…. Beagle… will post pics later.
December 28, 2004 - 08:42 PM on December 28th, 2004
oh..how cute TAC…what did you name the little tike?
December 28, 2004 - 08:44 PM on December 28th, 2004
Gee it looks like I missed a lot.. dirty pics..men locker room talk..threats and violence…ect. What happens when I go away?
December 28, 2004 - 08:45 PM on December 28th, 2004
merry Christmas navy sis. how’s your brother doing? where is he? did you get any socks?
December 28, 2004 - 08:49 PM on December 28th, 2004
Back at ya shiloh! Actually he’s coming home tomorrow and we’re going to do the family Christmas get together on New yrs. Can’t wait to see him! So did you have a nice Christmas? Get the typical socks and underoos?
December 28, 2004 - 08:51 PM on December 28th, 2004
if one more person asks me if Santa gave me everything i wanted i will reach thru the computer screen and they will not see another Christmas. other than that, it was sweet, but tinged with sorrow.
December 28, 2004 - 08:53 PM on December 28th, 2004
Why the sorrow?
December 28, 2004 - 08:55 PM on December 28th, 2004
Navy sis, if you liked the locker room talk, i suggest you check out this post and read the comments: For Ann Coulter Fans
December 28, 2004 - 09:03 PM on December 28th, 2004
Crypt keeper huh sabor?
December 28, 2004 - 09:07 PM on December 28th, 2004
on Christmas Eve we talked about why Jesus was born and how that’s worked out. i suppose we got hold of the traditional liberal guilt and that, & the libations, took us to tears. but it was with good friends.
December 28, 2004 - 09:09 PM on December 28th, 2004
179: yeah, I guess I was a little harsh, but I couldn’t let those guys talk about how she is so hot when she isn’t.
December 28, 2004 - 09:09 PM on December 28th, 2004
I would think that that would bring humility and then joy.
December 28, 2004 - 09:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
so then who would be on you “hot” list?
December 28, 2004 - 09:11 PM on December 28th, 2004
gotta run, good night all.
December 28, 2004 - 09:13 PM on December 28th, 2004
Molly….
December 28, 2004 - 09:13 PM on December 28th, 2004
183: you got your playboy bunnies, Victorias secret angels, pop princeses, actresses, etc. anyone besides Ann “the man”
December 28, 2004 - 09:15 PM on December 28th, 2004
Nite sabor! That’s a cute name TAC!
December 28, 2004 - 11:16 PM on December 28th, 2004
Lee RE: #87
“:we did the wrong thing in the past and therefore we have no right to do the right thing now: you’re so quick to blame everything on Bush.”
You know, now that you mention it, the Bush family has a long history of supporting the Bad Guys:
Grandpa Prescot did business with facist-financier, Fritz Thyssen throughout the 1930’s and was director of a bank that busted laundering money for the Nazis in 1942.
Daddy Bush financed and armed Saddam Hussein in Iraq AND Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan throughout the 1980’s. He was also a member of a business conglomerate that included members of the bin Laden family.
Junior Bush started his “Arbusto” oil company with financing from Salem bin Laden. Dick Cheney’s Halliburton had been in Iraq until just before the 2000 election.
See a pattern here?
You can’t refuteTHAT!
December 28, 2004 - 11:24 PM on December 28th, 2004
Kilo RE: #135
Can’t you see how stupid and ironic you sound?
Stop with the hateful name-calling and make a point, for Christs’ sake.
December 28, 2004 - 11:27 PM on December 28th, 2004
100: Of course not. Egypt tried that and got their butts handed to them. Besides that, the US has consistently positioned itself between them and those who’d like to try.
December 28, 2004 - 11:29 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, “Grandpa Prescot did business with facist-financier, Fritz Thyssen throughout the 1930’s and was director of a bank that busted laundering money for the Nazis in 1942″ PAPPA KENNEDY WAS VERY CLOSE TO THE NAZIS ALSO, HUHH.
December 28, 2004 - 11:30 PM on December 28th, 2004
dg, can you name another company that does the same work as Haliburton. Hell, if I get out, I want to be a “contractor”:wink: for them. 250,000 and no rules of engagement.
December 28, 2004 - 11:37 PM on December 28th, 2004
Kilo RE: #143
“:I took up arms in it’s defense, and i’ll put up my fists in defense of it now, against anyone who sides with our enemies:”
This statement is a lie. You support Bush whose daddy helped create our current enemies.
Is that why you get so irate? A dumbass liberal like me displays the facts of your President and, since you have no response, get all pissed off and threaten people on the internet? (ooooh! Bad-Ass!)
December 29, 2004 - 12:14 AM on December 29th, 2004
TAC RE: #191, 192
The Kennedys aren’t running the country — Bush is!
Yeah, I know. There is no other company that does what Halliburton does with the security clearence Halliburton has.
There’s also no other company whose board of directors are made up entirely of Generals, Admirals, former Pentagon brass and Reagan/Bush administration officials.
Why would they (Generals, Admirals, former Pentagon brass and Reagan/Bush administration officials) go anywhere else to work when ONE company can hold the government hostage?
I do wonder who grants security clearences for Halliburton subsidiaries like Kellogg, Brown & Root? BTW, these companies are doing jobs that used to be done by soldiers, but Reagan/Bush like to privatize things so that their greedy, warmonger corporate corksuckers can profit off wars — at taxpayer expense.
“Hell, if I get out, I want to be a contractor: for them. 250,000 and no rules of engagement.”
Now THAT’s one hell of a display of disdain for the troops. What an insult to the very soldiers you say I hate.
Unfortunately, if your in the warzone now, you’ll probably stay there until it’s over. Isn’t that what your contract says?
December 29, 2004 - 12:35 AM on December 29th, 2004
Simple question dg….. “The Kennedys aren’t running the country”Bush is!” Are you suggesting that President Bush is a Nazi? Yes or no will do.
December 29, 2004 - 12:37 AM on December 29th, 2004
dg. “”Hell, if I get out, I want to be a contractor: for them. 250,000 and no rules of engagement.” Now THAT’s one hell of a display of disdain for the troops. What an insult to the very soldiers you say I hate.” Tell me how I am showing disdain for my OWN?
December 29, 2004 - 12:38 AM on December 29th, 2004
I hold a commission dg, not a contract. I could resign tomorrow. But I will not.
December 29, 2004 - 12:41 AM on December 29th, 2004
Contractor ROE… see the enemy, kill them. Very effective. Do ya know who slashed the military dg? Huhh? Talk all the double speak you like, but I lived it. I was in intelligence when it was slashed to ribbons. You can spin it any way you want, but I saw it with my won eyes.
December 29, 2004 - 12:43 AM on December 29th, 2004
Why work so hard to destroy the US?
I am saddened.:cry:
December 29, 2004 - 12:59 AM on December 29th, 2004
I didn’t say Bush is a Nazi. But you can’t deny that the Bush family has a long history of keeping bad company, wouldn’t you say?
“Hell, if I get out, I want to be a contractor: for them. 250,000 and no rules of engagement.”
If you can get out, why don’t you? Then you could go to work for Halliburton, earning 10 times what your brothers-in-arms are making while they die protecting you.
You don’t see anything wrong with that?
December 29, 2004 - 01:47 AM on December 29th, 2004
dg, I have been in since 1992. I can retire within, what about 7 years. I have no plans on getting out. I take my responsibility to my soldiers and my country seriously. When I do retire, or get out, I would like to work for the “government” in another capacity. If the government decides they don’t need me, I will do something else. If one of the choice agency’s wanted me, I would have a hard time turning it down, but I would do what best serves my country and my family.
December 29, 2004 - 08:16 AM on December 29th, 2004
200- The sad part is, you do dg.
December 29, 2004 - 09:38 AM on December 29th, 2004
i trust i answered the various questions posed yesterday afternoon. any others, i’ll be looking in from time to time today.
have a good day.
December 29, 2004 - 10:01 AM on December 29th, 2004
Just on the radio, 68,000 and rising.
December 29, 2004 - 10:02 AM on December 29th, 2004
“Rising” doesn’t seem appropriate.
December 29, 2004 - 10:09 AM on December 29th, 2004
I know, but it was the word they used.
Jerry Orback (Law & Order) died of prostate cancer.
December 29, 2004 - 10:22 AM on December 29th, 2004
I remember him from Dirty Dancing.
December 29, 2004 - 07:42 PM on December 29th, 2004
The UN has openly welcomed terrorist and tyrants with open arms at the UN so why should even donate another dollar for these idiots and as for that norwegian born nit-wit i suggest he remember the berlin airlift and how we along with england helped out a former enemy and just what real men some of his ancestors were:lol::grin:
December 30, 2004 - 11:40 PM on December 30th, 2004
Here’s a great headliner for the next thread:
US tells UN to go get bent!
January 1, 2005 - 10:10 AM on January 1st, 2005
Japan increased its pledge of aid from $30 million to $500 million, the largest single nation donation yet. A day earlier, the United States raised its promise of help tenfold to $350 million.
“Our contributions will continue to be revised as the full effects of this terrible tragedy become clearer,” President Bush said Friday. Britain has pledged $95 million, Sweden $75 million and Spain $68 million.
And let’s not forget France- $136,000
January 1, 2005 - 11:24 AM on January 1st, 2005
I wonder if Egeland is happy with France’s monetary contribution.
January 1, 2005 - 11:39 AM on January 1st, 2005
January 1, 2005 - 12:25 PM on January 1st, 2005
Does anyone know how much George Soros is donating to tsunami relief? Or, did he spend all of his loose change trying to buy the U.S. election.
January 1, 2005 - 12:57 PM on January 1st, 2005
He was supposed to move into a monestary if Bush won re-election.
Haven’t heard about him in a while. When they’re quiet, you know they’re up to something.
January 1, 2005 - 01:33 PM on January 1st, 2005
He is a major benefactor of the ACLU. He has been very busy.
January 1, 2005 - 02:43 PM on January 1st, 2005
Walter Wallis was right the other day whenn he said that people who are using the death of dozens of thousands as political ammo, how much him, how much him, is as cheap is it gets.
try to keep your eye on the ball.
January 2, 2005 - 09:17 AM on January 2nd, 2005
kilo – you’ll be happy to learn that there is a questionnaire, including, are you against the US invasion or Iraq? did you smile on 9/11? are you vocal in your support of US policy?
the answers to these questions will determine if any Muslims affected by the Asian tragedy, will get food or medicine. or will; be cast aside to die like animals.
it’s like a dream come true, eh?
January 20, 2005 - 01:22 PM on January 20th, 2005
January 20, 2005 - 01:23 PM on January 20th, 2005
what an idiot, messing up the site.
January 20, 2005 - 01:24 PM on January 20th, 2005
Zach sucks alot and he is
January 20, 2005 - 01:24 PM on January 20th, 2005
Thanks, Joe, you stupid little bastard. Not only do you insult the site, but you screwed it up as well. I should kick your ass.
January 20, 2005 - 01:25 PM on January 20th, 2005
I don’t know what the hell he is talking about. Let’s adjust
January 20, 2005 - 01:25 PM on January 20th, 2005
the
January 20, 2005 - 01:25 PM on January 20th, 2005
site
January 20, 2005 - 01:25 PM on January 20th, 2005
Is any body there right now
January 20, 2005 - 01:27 PM on January 20th, 2005
What is a wed site
January 20, 2005 - 01:27 PM on January 20th, 2005
Somebody who will beat your silly little ass into the pavement Joseph. Beat it, you f_ckin nerd.
January 20, 2005 - 01:28 PM on January 20th, 2005
troll.
January 20, 2005 - 01:29 PM on January 20th, 2005
Ok I am sorry Imessed up the sight. I didn’t know what it was so I just started typing. Do you forgive me.:grin:
January 20, 2005 - 01:30 PM on January 20th, 2005
January 20, 2005 - 01:31 PM on January 20th, 2005
the sight? what are you, a total moron? or just a liberal? same thing, i guess.
reilly can you get this PITA off of the SITE?
January 20, 2005 - 01:32 PM on January 20th, 2005
ass!
January 20, 2005 - 01:33 PM on January 20th, 2005
Somebody needs to ban your dumb ass, Joesph, before I track you dowm and make you eat your left nut.
January 20, 2005 - 01:33 PM on January 20th, 2005
if its fallen, snatch.
January 20, 2005 - 01:34 PM on January 20th, 2005
234- Oh you are just awful:razz::lol::lol:
January 20, 2005 - 01:36 PM on January 20th, 2005
what a douchebag, waiting in the wings to try to mess up the site.
January 20, 2005 - 01:38 PM on January 20th, 2005
236-As Sasha would say, a good case for public caning:razz:
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