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Clueless

By: Lisa On: Jan/26/05 - 215 Comments

Insult
by: Michelle Malkin – NY Post

DO YOU remember when immigration officials sent out flight-school visa-ap proval notices for two of the 9/11 hijackers ” six months after they had committed their suicide attacks on America?

President Bush proclaimed his outrage, four federal immigration officials were reassigned, and Washington vowed that such embarrassing bureaucratic snafus would never happen again. I’m sorry to report that it has, in fact, happened again.

On Jan. 15, immigration officials sent a notice to Eugueni Kniazev of Brooklyn. The letter informs Kniazev, a Siberian immigrant, that he is now “deemed to be a lawful permanent resident of the United States.” The notice directs Kniazev to obtain a new alien registration receipt card (a “green card”), and instructs him to appear at the immigration office at 26 Federal Plaza with his passport and three recent photos.

The letter warns Kniazev not to travel outside the United States without approval.

But Eugueni Kniazev won’t be appearing at Federal Plaza. He won’t be traveling anywhere. Kniazev, 47, was an employee of Windows on the World on the 107th floor of the North Tower. He was murdered in the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Just how clueless are our paper-pushers?

People just get caught up in the system of paper in the office of beaurocrats. We can’t really expect them to cross-reference the names in the Citizenship and Immigration Services’ records with the names of those deceased on 9/11, can we? Or even the names of deceased, otherwise?

We couldn’t even expect them to cross-reference the names with those who are the list of known/suspected/dead terrorists . . what makes anyone think that they are going to reference anything of lesser importance?

Eugueni Kniazev’s family hopes his case will lead to reform ” and his case is only the tip of the incompetence iceberg:

* The nation’s various fingerprint databases still have not been integrated because of bickering among FBI, State Department and DHS officials. Most visitors entering the country still aren’t thoroughly screened for terrorist or criminal ties.

* There is still no system in place for notifying investigators about stolen passports, which led the DHS inspector general to conclude last month that foreigners using fraudulent documents have “little reason to fear being caught.”

* The long-delayed entry-exit tracking system for foreign visitors ” in the works for nearly a decade ” has still not been implemented fully.

* There is still no systematic tracking of illegal alien felons.

* And while millions of legal applicants deal with paperwork backlogs and mishaps that take years to resolve, the White House supports granting “temporary guest worker” status to upward of 20 million illegal aliens ” a move that rank-and-file officers say will lead to rampant fraud and even greater bureaucratic overload.

Posted on: January 26, 2005 |

Posted in: Smack of the Week, Terrorism

215 Responses to “Clueless”

  1. And Rightly So! » From Around The Web
    January 27, 2005 - 02:34 AM on January 27th, 2005

    [...] ates America. Its funny, kind of sad and think about the previous thesis as you watch it. Right Voices has a round up of Michele Malkin’s column in the NY Post. Over at Unciv [...]

  2. peejz
    January 26, 2005 - 05:21 PM on January 26th, 2005

    This just strenthens my position that we need to tear these organizations down and re-build them from scratch.

  3. Reilly
    January 26, 2005 - 05:31 PM on January 26th, 2005

    That would be a great place to start, peejz – - however I don’t ever see that happening. I find it amazing how much money and time is spent on creating numerous databases and none of them really seem to be utilized.

  4. peejz
    January 26, 2005 - 05:40 PM on January 26th, 2005

    2- What I find amazing is, out of all the data bases, none are inter-connected. The right hand has no idea what the left is doing! Will it happen, no!:sad:

  5. Walter E. Wallis
    January 26, 2005 - 07:36 PM on January 26th, 2005

    I remember when they issued public service announcements every year reminding resident aliens they needed to re-registration. That seems fair. Whoever let that law lapse should be publicly scorned.
    For the rest of issues mentioned, we need to give agencies deadlines after which a new agency will be given the responsibility, the cost paid out of the old agency’s budget.

  6. K
    January 27, 2005 - 08:18 PM on January 27th, 2005

    OKAY!!! LET’S MOVE HERE!

    Continue with buckets and flirting.

  7. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:20 PM on January 27th, 2005

    What, mine wasn’t good enough for ya? I somehow thought the Jerry Springer one was appropriate! :mrgreen:

  8. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:22 PM on January 27th, 2005

    This seems to be more appropriate for us!:grin:

  9. navy sis
    January 27, 2005 - 08:24 PM on January 27th, 2005

    7-Well I can relate!:grin:

  10. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:27 PM on January 27th, 2005

    dammit will someone make up my mind??? :lol:

  11. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:30 PM on January 27th, 2005

    9- Stay here lee! It seems to fit!:smile: Get yourself ready for next weeks 1st loss of the season!:razz:

  12. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:34 PM on January 27th, 2005

    OK! This does seem to fit my blonde-ness :razz: Yep, keep that dream alive; I’d hate for you to spend your whole weekend fretting over your impending doom :mrgreen:

    Hey, I’m closing in on Sandy for the #8 spot; if this goes long enough I might just overtake her!

  13. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:38 PM on January 27th, 2005

    11-I thought the name was a nice touch!. I would be careful bout talking too much smack though!:razz:

  14. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:38 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Hi Navy Sis!:smile:

  15. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:41 PM on January 27th, 2005

    12-How do you define too much smack? I figure at my age why stop now; it’s all or nothing baby!!! :razz:

    Hey sis, we’re over here now!!!

    shiloh, come on over and root for BC all you want. Of course, they’re only undefeated because of an easy schedule; they’re nowhere near the caliber of Illinois! Or even those Spartans for that matter :lol:

  16. navy sis
    January 27, 2005 - 08:41 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Ok, is this the final answer? Does buck stop here?

  17. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:43 PM on January 27th, 2005

    15- Yes Navy! Sit back and enjoy! Your services will be needed on Tuesday. Lee will be inconsolable:razz::smile:

  18. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:43 PM on January 27th, 2005

    London broil. Grilled chicken. All of a sudden the chili mac I’m munching on looks so dull!

    Yeah, I think we’re staying here now :wink:

  19. navy sis
    January 27, 2005 - 08:43 PM on January 27th, 2005

    13- Hey there Peejz!:grin:

  20. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Her services :?:

  21. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Hey that wasn’t the smiley I clicked on! I clicked on :?: !!

  22. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:45 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Something funny going on; why is the question mark smiley bringing up that other one?

  23. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:48 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Must be something in the stars:razz:

  24. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:50 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Well, at least all my normal ones work!
    :mrgreen: :twisted: :smile: :cool: :razz: :wink: :lol:

  25. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Lee- that statement leaves you wide open for insult!

  26. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    The stars are supposed to be on MY side!

  27. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:52 PM on January 27th, 2005

    25- Then what happened:razz:

  28. navy sis
    January 27, 2005 - 08:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    16- Ha! He’s got the captain!:wink:

    17-yeah, I’m starving..can’t wait!

  29. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Insult? I think it’s a GOOD sign that everything’s working! :grin:

    Hear that K? Everything’s working fine?

    Uh-oh, I think the captain’s starting to take control :lol:

  30. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 08:55 PM on January 27th, 2005

    28- Where is Sasha when I need him:?:

  31. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:55 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I haven’t had a london broil in a while. They’re great! My chili mac’s getting cold. Type. Eat. Type. Eat. Drink. Drink. Drink… :razz:

    26-Mutiny!

  32. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:57 PM on January 27th, 2005

    29 – Oh sure, the damn thing works for you!! Where is Sasha? The game’s been over for a while now!

    OK – one more try: hold your breath: drum roll please… (I’m nervous) :?:

  33. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 08:58 PM on January 27th, 2005

    ?????

  34. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:03 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I don’t think Sasha likes us anymore:sad:

  35. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Lee- I pick the Spartans for the final 4.

  36. navy sis
    January 27, 2005 - 09:10 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Well I must be finishing the dinner(mashed potatos and all) so I will bid you all a good nite!:wink:

  37. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:11 PM on January 27th, 2005

    What did you do to Sasha? Maybe he’s just medicated :)

    34-Well, of COURSE you do!! I picked the Bears for the superbowl too :grin:

  38. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:13 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Good nite sis!! I think I may close off too and go do some homework and get to bed early for once. After eating my “dinner” I’m getting a little drowsy :)

  39. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:15 PM on January 27th, 2005

    36- Thems some fighin words:mad: You just wait Mr. Smug!:wink:

  40. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:16 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Goodnight Navy Sis!

  41. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:21 PM on January 27th, 2005

    38-Oh you just now figured out I was pickin’ fights? :lol: Actually, I think it would be GREAT if the Spartans made it to the final four. Then we could knock you out then too!!! :mrgreen:

    That oughta get ya goin’ heh heh

    Well, I’m gonna call it a day! Nite peejz :wink:

  42. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:23 PM on January 27th, 2005

    More tomorrow Lee:mad: I’ll get you:wink: Just wait til Sasha hears about this. You won’t be talkin so tough. :razz:

  43. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:25 PM on January 27th, 2005

    He’s here now Lee! Just wait. You’ll get yours!

  44. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:26 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Sorry guys. I kind of took a nap. Got a little sleepy.

  45. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:28 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Still sleepy. Can’t quite get it together.

    May have to have a pot of coffee before going to bed.

    Cliff Notes me. What have I missed?

  46. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:30 PM on January 27th, 2005

    28: ??!?

    It still doesn’t explain the rash, Lee.:smile:

  47. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:34 PM on January 27th, 2005

    You have to remember, peejz. Lee is new to basketball because his football team was so bad.

    At least we had reasons for losing.

  48. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:35 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Lee thinks the Spartans can make it to the final 4 where ILL will beat us again. He thinks he will win on Tuesday. He was talking down about you and said he could kick you ass all over cyber-space.
    What do you think of that:?:

  49. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:36 PM on January 27th, 2005

    46-:lol::lol:

  50. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:39 PM on January 27th, 2005

    YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?

    I have a vintage batch of Verbal Napalm(TM), extra fortified with Snark and Stank ready to go. :twisted:

  51. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:40 PM on January 27th, 2005

    C’mon, mess with me…:twisted::lol:

  52. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:41 PM on January 27th, 2005

    And he’s on a dial-up…:roll::smile:

  53. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:42 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Take that lee:razz:

  54. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:43 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Type to the hand!

    Ok, not the same effect this way. Sheesh, try to do a little work and some little upstart basketball fan(s) wanna go tryin’ to start something! :lol:

  55. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    It’s hard to be menacing when you have a cat falling asleep in your lap purring like a turboprop.

  56. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    peejz, Sasha’s too skinny to hind behind! :razz:

  57. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    54-It’s ok, it wasn’t working anyway! I just don’t intimidate that easy :wink: Give that cutesy-wootsy little furball a tickle for me! :razz:

  58. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    54-Mine is kneeding my leg:razz:
    55-He can punch and run.

  59. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Lee, if you dial back in to ISP, you may be able to get a faster 14400 baud rate.:razz:

  60. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:49 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I have a considerable reach.

  61. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:50 PM on January 27th, 2005

    57-You might have me there!

    58-That’s low, hitting a guy right in the bandwidth! You should be ashamed of yourself, picking on a poor college student! :razz:

  62. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    59-Yeah, but I know your weakness. I have a UV lamp! :twisted:

  63. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    56: It’s okay, Lee. We know you meant hide. My formidable presence has you quaking at your keyboard.:lol:

    Or it’s just the cold. It’s not even funny right now.

  64. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 09:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    61-That’s just plain mean. What do you say to that Shasha….

  65. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I have sunblock. So?

  66. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:57 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I went to the Hubble site the other night.

    One of the other reasons repair and maintenance has been cut, and I was unaware of this, is that the HST is only compatible for docking with the shuttles, which ain’t going up anytime soon.

  67. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 09:58 PM on January 27th, 2005

    62-And I knew you meant 55 :wink: Damn coffee stains must be making the keys stick together. Yeah, that’s the ticket…

    64-The speed of light is MUCH faster than the speed of putting on sunblock!

    63-I’m just trying to hold my own peejz :lol:

  68. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 09:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Shasha, peejz? Are you typing with a lisp now?:lol::razz:

  69. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:00 PM on January 27th, 2005

    66: You apply it well before exposure, and you’re good to go.

  70. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:03 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Cat has decided to curl up right in front of the space heater. Practically asleep with her head still off the floor. Dingcat…

  71. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:05 PM on January 27th, 2005

    65-Yeah, but nobody expected a servicing mission until the shuttle was back in service. The other excuse is that if we send a shuttle to HST there’s nowhere for the astronauts to stay in case something’s wrong with the shuttle. I hate to sound harsh, but space exploration is a dangerous business. Ask any of the astronauts; they’d do it in a heartbeat, even after the recent disaster. And I even know an astronaut and talked to him about it. The truth is, O’Keefe’s been trying to come up with excuses to cut Hubble’s funding for years, and now he’s using the shuttle disaster. Ask any real astronomer; HST is infinitely more valuable than the political ISS boondoggle and is worth the risk.

    It’s not stopping at Hubble either; an email went out today about NASA cutting funds in planetary sciences. I support Bush’s space vision, but not if it’s going to be at the expense of more important science!

  72. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:05 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Whoa. I’ve been abandoned.

  73. peejz
    January 27, 2005 - 10:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    67- you ass:razz:
    good night you 2!

  74. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Okay, I no longer feel abandoned.:smile:

  75. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    67-I didn’t even catch that! peejz, are cheating with the captain on me? :razz:

    You know it’s not necessary; three’s not always a crowd :wink:

  76. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    ‘Nite peejz!

  77. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:09 PM on January 27th, 2005

    71-Nope; you went and got me all serious, dammit! Now I’ll need an extra dose to put me back in the right state of mind :wink:

  78. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:09 PM on January 27th, 2005

    And I guess friends should share… mmmmmmm

  79. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:10 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Sasha, the captain doesn’t mix well with meds; it should say so right on the bottles! :mrgreen:

  80. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:11 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Nite peejz!

  81. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:11 PM on January 27th, 2005

    That’s part of the strategy. Distract with meaty issues of substance, then land a good one. KaPOWW!

  82. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:13 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Well, at least you think my issues have substance! :)

  83. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:13 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I have gone near the Captain in 15 years.

    Margaritas, Long Islands, and Bailey’s & coffee are more my thing. And vodka.

  84. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:14 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Haven’t gone near.:oops:

  85. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:15 PM on January 27th, 2005

    No meds tonight.

  86. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:17 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I just like the photos they keep getting.

  87. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:17 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I just forwarded you the email I mentioned in case you’re interested. The thing is, I don’t think this is Bush; I think it’s NASA upper management. They seem to want to focus all their money on the shuttle and ISS. Great, what’s supposedly supposed to be an organization devoted to advancing science is rapidly becoming a multibillion dollar political taxi service.

  88. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:19 PM on January 27th, 2005

    85-Those photos contain a ton of information for scientists besides being nice PR. Damn, now you got me on my soapbox! :grin:

  89. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:20 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Oh, that email’s coming from my astro account so you may not recognize it as me. From astro.uiuc.edu…

  90. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:21 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Hey did I get abandoned now? Or is it that distraction thing you talked about getting thrown back atcha? KaPoww!!

  91. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:22 PM on January 27th, 2005

    20 more and I’ll overtake Sandy for #8 :mrgreen:

  92. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:22 PM on January 27th, 2005

    You know, and I said this when Clinton was in office as well, when you become president, you’re not bestowed with a crystal ball, magic wand, telepathy, clairvoyance, or a time machine. There’s no way to know what some anonymous paper shuffler is doing until it causes a blip on the radar.

    I will be sure to read your e-mail.

  93. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:25 PM on January 27th, 2005

    20 more? Let’s put the girl in her place.

    Wait–is this our redheaded Sandy the hammer thrower, or Sandyb?

  94. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:26 PM on January 27th, 2005

    91-Yeah, and unfortunately everyone in the astro department smacks the blame squarely on Bush’ shoulders, but I’ve felt this way ever since O’Keefe took over as NASA administrator. I believe Bush would support the scientific community if we presented it properly, but I think the NASA upper management is in on this. The thing is, I don’t understand why. I do know that O’Keefe isn’t a scientist though; he’s a paper pusher. That probably has a lot to do with it.

  95. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:27 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Ah, Sandyb. Don’t have to worry about hammers flying toward my head.

  96. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:28 PM on January 27th, 2005

    92-sandyb; I didn’t notice where hammer-lady was on the list, so she must be a ways down there!

  97. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:29 PM on January 27th, 2005

    94-Yeah, I wouldn’t have been so blatant if it was her! I’d have just quietly overtaken her to avoid a 10-pound sledge to the noggin :)

  98. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:30 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I don’t know why I’m still putting numbers on my posts when we’re obviously the only two left here!

  99. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:30 PM on January 27th, 2005

    93: Bureaucracies can run themselves, thanks to glass ceilings and drones. Every once in a while you get the odd administrator out to make a name.

  100. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:31 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Because I do it as well. Force of habit.

  101. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:34 PM on January 27th, 2005

    That’s so true. The problem is, NASA’s gone from one extreme to the other. Under the old administration, NASA had no direction and was totally inefficient and a huge money drain; that bureaucracy is what led to the safety deficiencies that made the shuttle disaster a reality. Now their efficiency is improving, but the new management unfortunately seems more concerned with politics than science, which should be their primary concern.

  102. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:35 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Yeah, I’m afraid that while I’m typing three new posts will land and what I say won’t make sense anymore, or will make sense in a way I wasn’t intending!

  103. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:37 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Sandy’s not as far down as I thought; she’s at #13 tied with PCD! Wonder why I never noticed that before? I must’ve just been focusing on who was in front of me, ignoring the rear-view mirror :grin:

  104. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:42 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I imagine it’s a little bit of both forces at work. NASA has a budget to work within, not a bottomless bucket, so they may have to prioritize and compete for project money.

    On the other end, the admins are there and they have yearly goals and objectives to meet, against which their performance is evaluated.

    So an admin can cut the budgets to the point that no work is accomplished, and the admin has met the objective for the year.

    And then you just sharpen the saw from there.

  105. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    102: Kind of like driving on the freeway. OOnce you make your move on someone, as long as you’re in front and out of high-beam range, I don’t see a problem.:lol:

  106. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:45 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Yep, and then you’re stuck with yet another useless government agency that spends all of its money just to continue its existence.

  107. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Yeah, and guess who’s in the road in front of sandyb ! :razz:

  108. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    i’m back
    nanananaana

  109. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    That’s almost 200 posts, dude. Assuming I go on sabbatical.

  110. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Doing her best Drunk Girl ee cummings imitation. We give you… K.

  111. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Yeah Sasha; I don’t think you’re in any danger :)

    High K! :razz:

  112. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    that was actually the eminem version.

  113. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    “high”

  114. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:55 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Maybe you and peejz have been sharing the Captain. :lol:

  115. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:56 PM on January 27th, 2005

    high or hi, lee?

    :twisted:

    i have had too much red, red wine…

    goes to my head…makes me forget that i’m…

    stealin her soul…

  116. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:56 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Now why did I write it that way? It wasn’t intentional; must have been subliminal! :razz:

    K, I think you have an effect on me :wink:

    Or maybe it’s the Captain. Or both :razz:

  117. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:57 PM on January 27th, 2005

    glad that we are on the save wavelength, minus the pussy.

    cat.

  118. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:57 PM on January 27th, 2005

    OH I get it now.
    nanananana nanananana

  119. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:58 PM on January 27th, 2005

    It must effect you if you’re singing eminem! God I’d like to beat the crap out that guy! And I’m not a violent person :wink:

  120. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:58 PM on January 27th, 2005

    i am the master debater right now on whether i should finish the bottle of vino or go to bed so i can be more refreshed for the interview.

    self diagnosed fear of success, i have.

  121. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 10:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    116: :oops: Caught me off guard on that one.

  122. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 10:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    K, I think I like you on wine. Mental note for August vacation: lots of red, red wine :twisted:

  123. K
    January 27, 2005 - 10:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    117 – yeah, it’s hard to do on a post.

    you guys, do you think shiloh beats it every night thinking of peejz? :evil:

  124. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:01 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Actually all those “nanannana’s” put Will Smith’s Summertime into my head.

  125. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:01 PM on January 27th, 2005

    hee hee, august will be fun. we should be total dorks and make up t-shirts and campaign in 2008 together. the right voices tour!

    okay, time for a slight refill then nighty night.

  126. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:02 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I would suggest a gallon of water so you can go pee a few times during the night. Please get out of bed though. Lee’s admitted here that he’s made that mistake a time or two.

    The tannins will mess you up.

  127. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:02 PM on January 27th, 2005

    123 – is that the “get jiggy wit it” song? cuz now it’s stuck in my head!

  128. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:02 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Or was it Summertime? It was Will Smith.

    K!! :shock: Please, I’m a visual person, and that one I just don’t need! Please go back to your previous train of thought :mrgreen:

  129. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:03 PM on January 27th, 2005

    126-Yeah! That’s the one! Much better than emineminem…

  130. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:04 PM on January 27th, 2005

    na na na na na na
    gettin’ jiggy wit’ it.

    Whatever.

    Gritty Kitty just climed into an empty waste basket and still looks cute.

  131. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:05 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Sasha! Can’t you see I’m trying to be smooth :shock:

  132. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:05 PM on January 27th, 2005

    125 – i am weird, like a camel – i can sleep til noon without having to pee, no problem. probably not good for the kidneys, but it’s better than peeing the bed.

  133. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:06 PM on January 27th, 2005

    131-K, it’s not true; Sasha just doesn’t know how to handle the competition :razz: He knows I’ll look better on the Chicago beach!! :mrgreen:

  134. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    although, i do admit to you guys…once i was so bombed that i sat on the toilet to pee..and forgot to take my shorts and undies off.

  135. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Shouldn’t have said that. I’d better start working out now!

  136. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:07 PM on January 27th, 2005

    122: Okay, let’s pretend that didn’t happen.:shock:

  137. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:08 PM on January 27th, 2005

    133-I hope you remembered afterwards!

    And sandyb is now in my dust!!! :mrgreen:

  138. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:08 PM on January 27th, 2005

    132 chicago and beach sound like an oxymoron :grin:

    speaking of which, you should let me go soon so i can sleep well for the interview that gets me there…

    LOL.

  139. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:09 PM on January 27th, 2005

    OK, I really shouldn’t but I’m gonna go mix another drink. I can’t leave K here by herself in this condition :twisted:

  140. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:10 PM on January 27th, 2005

    136 – i couldn’t help but remember, er. put the pieces back together.

    what’s the worst thing you’ve done while drunk?

  141. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:11 PM on January 27th, 2005

    132: You can probably only say that now because the sun hit that fish-belly skin and blinded everyone.:razz::lol:

  142. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:11 PM on January 27th, 2005

    138 – my kind of guy – i k you and i would be last at the bar going, “one more, okay, one more, okay, where can we go next?” :)

  143. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:12 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I’m sorry. That was pure stank.:shock:

  144. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:12 PM on January 27th, 2005

    141 – that “k” should have been “bet” as in “i bet”

  145. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:13 PM on January 27th, 2005

    137-Hey, I didn’t force you to go get that extra glass of wine :smile: You would think that about Chicago, but it’s actually got a pretty decent beach!

  146. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:17 PM on January 27th, 2005

    131: By all means, have the water.

    139: I don’t get to the point of getting drunk. Once my face goes numb, I’m done for the night.

  147. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:18 PM on January 27th, 2005

    139-I wish I could remember! There were some pretty bad ones in my youth, but that was a loooooong time ago! When I was in Florida, my buddies and I used to play all sorts of pranks on each other. I think the best was when one of our friends was out of town, we went into his room and turned everything backwards. We even somehow managed to turn his bunkbed completely upside-down!

    Putting the mattress on the ledge outside was common too. There was one night where I was so drunk that I crawled home and the guys had put my mattress in the bathroom. I was so drunk that I leaned on it while I was throwing up and then got a good night’s sleep on the springs.

    Man I’m glad those days are over :razz:

    K, I think we would close the bars!

  148. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:18 PM on January 27th, 2005

    It’s on Lake Michigan, it has to be decent.

  149. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:20 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I’ve always been a happy drunk :razz:

  150. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:20 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I roll drunks and take their money. :twisted:

  151. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:21 PM on January 27th, 2005

    This could be profitable trip. :lol:

  152. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:22 PM on January 27th, 2005

    148 – mee too, i am a loving, but sometimes stupid drunk!

    sasha – you are too good.

  153. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:23 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I wouldn’t be worth your effort Sasha! A poor little college student barely has enough money to keep himself inebriated! I mean, keep the rent paid!

  154. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:23 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Yeah, Lee, you’ve passed Sandyb, but you gotta keep her down.

  155. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:24 PM on January 27th, 2005

    151-Well, this Chicago trip is really starting to sound fun!

  156. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:25 PM on January 27th, 2005

    152 – I’ll be your suga momma.

  157. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:26 PM on January 27th, 2005

    153-I’m working on it :wink: She’s choking on more and more of my dust as we speak! She might as well hang out back there with Zelda and the crack pipe!

  158. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:26 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I can’t stand sappy drunks.

    Crying in their beer, “Mommmmmeeeee! I just wanted one more ride on the pony! Why did I have to eat turnips? Whhhhhyyyyyy!”

    KaPOW!

    I take yo money…

  159. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:26 PM on January 27th, 2005

    How far are you out of the city, Lee?

    And I do love Lake Michigan. I go up there every year for the 4th of July at Summerfest in Milwaukee.

  160. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:27 PM on January 27th, 2005

    155 – oh hell yeah! I’ll keep Sasha away from your purse :wink:

  161. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:29 PM on January 27th, 2005

    158 – About 2 1/2 hour drive.

    Now Sasha, does this sound like a couple of crying drunks?? :razz: Leave my quarters alone!! A man’s gotta park, dammit!

  162. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:29 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Anyone for a drinking game? I guess that would be better over instant messenger.

  163. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:30 PM on January 27th, 2005

    160 – where the hell are you? why did i think you are at urbana?

  164. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:31 PM on January 27th, 2005

    K, I like the way you think! I’ve never tried drinking games online. I can’t bury sandyb over IM though :)

  165. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:32 PM on January 27th, 2005

    In college, I had a couple of floormates/friends who were horny drunks. You have to be especially on guard with this species of drunk. You lose your concentration for an instant, the next thing you know they’re trying to love on ya. And they’d think it was the funniest thing the next day.

  166. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:32 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I AM in Urbana! Well, Champaign actually, but it’s the same difference! It’s about a 2 1/2 hour drive to Chicago from here straight up 57.

  167. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:33 PM on January 27th, 2005

    164 – Now that sounds more my style! But don’t worry Sasha, you’re not my type :wink:

  168. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:34 PM on January 27th, 2005

    159: You can’t do that. I have dibs on her lap.

  169. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:35 PM on January 27th, 2005

    So unless you wanna walk around Chi-Town carrying her purse…

  170. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:36 PM on January 27th, 2005

    163 – true, and i should go to sleep soon. zzzzzz. but the sugar in the wine is keeping me awake!

    i always go by the 1.5 cycle rule – that’s supposed to be your full sleep cycle to get the best night’s rest – so you try to sleep in 1.5 hr, 3 hr, 4.5 hr, 6 hr, 7.5 hr, 9 hr cycles…I always shot for 9 hours but in NYC with all the drugs usually ended at 3 best. But seriously- 8 hrs is NOT the best – check out 7.5 or 9, if you can. It’s amazing.

    Tonight, I am seriously going for 7.5.

  171. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:36 PM on January 27th, 2005

    167-Dammit! Foiled again! But you’ll have move eventually to pee or something, and then…. :twisted:

  172. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:38 PM on January 27th, 2005

    169 – Well, you ARE my suga momma! :grin:

    I never heard that about the sleep cycles! It really works?

  173. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:39 PM on January 27th, 2005

    KaPOW! I take yo money!:twisted:

  174. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:39 PM on January 27th, 2005

    166-168 – i’ll walk in between you guys like schameel, schmazel..

    WE’RE gonna DO IT!

  175. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:40 PM on January 27th, 2005

    172 – Joke’s on you! I don’t HAVE any! And you conveniently left me behind with the drunk girl :twisted: nyah nyah!

  176. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:41 PM on January 27th, 2005

    173 – Wrong city, Laverne; that’s Milwaukee!

  177. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:42 PM on January 27th, 2005

    171 – yep. i swear by it…

    you go through REM (rapid eye movement) when you are in a deep sleep, and you need this for brain recovery. it happens in these cycles of app. 1.5 hrs. try it. don’t try sleeping past 9 hours on the weekends or your offdays and you feel great.

    now, drinking fucks this up b/c you aren’t getting the DEEP sleep you need…

  178. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:42 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Well, the effects of the nap is wearing off. Time for this tired puppy to drag himself to bed.

    On the morrow, folks!

  179. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:44 PM on January 27th, 2005

    hey boys, don’t turn on me…

  180. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    176 – It’s rare that I sleep 9 hours, my body just doesn’t seem to like that! Too bad about the drinking, though; that might be why I’ve never noticed! I’ll have to give it a shot, but I think it’s already too late for tonight!

    177 – And she’s alllllll mine! :twisted: Nite Sasha!

  181. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM on January 27th, 2005

    yeah, i should go too before lee tries to revert to phone sex.

  182. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:47 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Are you kidding K? Do you really think I’d go to sleep now?? :wink:

  183. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:48 PM on January 27th, 2005

    LOL – I do need to crawl into my lonely king sized bed.

    Have a great night. Don’t think of shiloh.

  184. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:48 PM on January 27th, 2005

    180 – Who me? Would I do that? Where’s an innocent angel face smiley when I need one?? Besides, I thought YOU were the one trying to take advantage of me :twisted:

  185. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:48 PM on January 27th, 2005

    174: And what would there be to do? You’ll be drunk, knocked out, and will have peed your pants. That puts a block on any hope of action…unless you catch the eye of a less discerning street person who likes that in a man.

    Hey, who am I to cast aspersions. One does what one must.:wink:

  186. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:49 PM on January 27th, 2005

    181 – what happened to that girlfriend?

  187. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:49 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Aw, now why’d you have to pull the shiloh on me? You coulda just splashed me with cold water! I have a king sized bed too :grin: It’s also pretty lonely.

  188. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:50 PM on January 27th, 2005

    New tv show: Desperate Grad Students
    :lol:

  189. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:50 PM on January 27th, 2005

    185 – :shock:

    Couldn’t you have just used shiloh again? :lol:

  190. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:51 PM on January 27th, 2005

    187 – Not desperate; just can’t let a good opportunity pass! hey, I thought you were sleeping! peeping tom :grin:

  191. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:52 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Alright you two, I AM going to crawl into my lonely bed and get some sleep, for 7.5 hrs, dreaming of Chicago!

    And Lee, of course.

    Good night, Loves…more tomorrow!!!

    XXO

  192. Sasha
    January 27, 2005 - 11:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    Mos Def. I’m out too.

  193. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:53 PM on January 27th, 2005

    190 – Nite K! I’m gonna stock up on red wine :twisted:

  194. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:54 PM on January 27th, 2005

    K, I’ll dream of you too :wink:

  195. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:57 PM on January 27th, 2005

    192-3 – both sound good – remind me to send that pic tomorrow.

    night!!!!

  196. K
    January 27, 2005 - 11:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    and.. dobre noche sashki.

  197. lee
    January 27, 2005 - 11:59 PM on January 27th, 2005

    I will :) Sleep tight!

    Sigh, half a drink left…

    I’m all aloooone, there’s no one here beside meeee! I’m all aloooone, there’s no one to deride meeeee…

  198. lee
    January 28, 2005 - 12:00 AM on January 28th, 2005

    Shrek in case anyone’s wondering :)

  199. peejz
    January 28, 2005 - 09:21 AM on January 28th, 2005

    194- Sure it is:roll:

  200. K
    January 28, 2005 - 09:49 AM on January 28th, 2005

    huh peejz?

    my interview went really well. i will hear more next week.

    anyway, i’ll be crazed with work today, but will check in later.

    gotta brush the red off my tongue.

  201. lee
    January 28, 2005 - 09:55 AM on January 28th, 2005

    Hi K! I had a wonderful time last night :razz:

    Glad to hear the interview went well! Now don’t forget that picture you promised me :wink:

  202. peejz
    January 28, 2005 - 10:00 AM on January 28th, 2005

    199- Glad to hear it K. We are proud of you. The reference above should have been to 197, not 194:oops: It was a dig at lee, not you!:smile:

  203. lee
    January 28, 2005 - 10:05 AM on January 28th, 2005

    Drink more coffee peejz; you’re not aiming straight!

  204. peejz
    January 28, 2005 - 10:06 AM on January 28th, 2005

    202- no kidding!:razz: That was way off wasn’t it:razz:

  205. lee
    January 28, 2005 - 10:09 AM on January 28th, 2005

    203-That’s all right; I’m sure you’ll get better as the day goes on :razz:

  206. peejz
    January 28, 2005 - 10:10 AM on January 28th, 2005

    204-I can only hope!:grin:

  207. navy sis
    January 28, 2005 - 12:33 PM on January 28th, 2005

    Dang, I leave and all the fun starts!:sad:

  208. navy sis
    January 28, 2005 - 12:38 PM on January 28th, 2005

    199- Congrats K! I’m sure you passed with flying colors!:grin:

  209. K
    January 28, 2005 - 12:43 PM on January 28th, 2005

    Thanks Navy Sis. I was a little foggy after last night, but I think I came across pretty well.

  210. navy sis
    January 28, 2005 - 12:47 PM on January 28th, 2005

    208- Might have been a good thing, nerves and all.

  211. navy sis
    January 28, 2005 - 12:50 PM on January 28th, 2005

    Hey there Shrek! Got the email, thanks!:wink:

  212. navy sis
    January 28, 2005 - 12:52 PM on January 28th, 2005

    210-*Shrek fan..:oops: Didn’t mean to call you an ogre!:grin:

  213. K
    January 28, 2005 - 12:55 PM on January 28th, 2005

    211- LOLOLOLOLOL

  214. lee
    January 28, 2005 - 12:58 PM on January 28th, 2005

    Hey!! I haven’t let myself go THAT bad!! :shock:

    Great, wait til Sasha sees this one!! :evil:

    :mrgreen:

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