Report: FBI Official Claims to Be ‘Deep Throat’
By: Pam On: May/31/05 - 99 Comments
W. Mark Felt (search), 91, was second-in-command at the FBI in the early 1970s. His identity was revealed Tuesday by Vanity Fair magazine, and family members said they believe his account is true.
“The family believes my grandfather, Mark Felt Sr., is a great American hero who went well above and beyond the call of duty at much risk to himself to save his country from a horrible injustice,” a family statement read by grandson Nick Jones said. “We all sincerely hope the country will see him this way as well.”
May 31, 2005 - 02:48 PM on May 31st, 2005
ok……
what exactly was the “horrible injustice”?
was it anything like being beheaded??
just curious.
May 31, 2005 - 02:48 PM on May 31st, 2005
Woodward & Bernstein say they will keep the secret until Deep Throat dies.
May 31, 2005 - 02:50 PM on May 31st, 2005
You know, if England had an open media in the 1780s, you probably could get the same statement from Benedict Arnold’s family.
May 31, 2005 - 02:51 PM on May 31st, 2005
1-Not quite that bad, but I guess worse than lying to a Grand Jury and coercing others to commit perjury:wink:
May 31, 2005 - 03:00 PM on May 31st, 2005
The question still stands..what “horrible injustice” exactly did this person allegedly save his country from????????
3,000 dead, incinerated and plunging from 100 stories? That kind of injustice? I must be stupid, because I don’t see it.
May 31, 2005 - 03:02 PM on May 31st, 2005
maybe they were gathing information on travel office workers so they could fire them all….wait, that wasn’t THAT administration…..wait…maybe the presiden’t council committed “suicide” and was found in a park…oh, sorry, again, different administration.
hmmmmmm
May 31, 2005 - 03:11 PM on May 31st, 2005
Was it that perhaps Mr. Felt thought he was protecting the country against FBI Director G. Gordon Liddy?
May 31, 2005 - 03:27 PM on May 31st, 2005
Wow, Peejz and Astro are posting here now? Cool!
May 31, 2005 - 03:34 PM on May 31st, 2005
maybe he got the president to lie to a grand jury….wait…again, I get confused..again…DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION.
May 31, 2005 - 03:38 PM on May 31st, 2005
Maybe Mr. Felt blew the whistle on the White House requesting 1000 FBI files…wrong administration.
June 1, 2005 - 07:15 AM on June 1st, 2005
Mr Felt helped get a corrupt President out of office, and you guys seem to hate him for that because that President happened to be a Republican.
June 1, 2005 - 07:26 AM on June 1st, 2005
13- I think they were baiting people on the issue Z. Many say what Mr. Felt did was retribution for not being named FBI Director. Felt was close to Hoover. It is reported that he was a bit more than angry as he felt he was the successor to Hoover.
The alleged acts of Nixon are no worse than that of Clinton. How they handled themselves is vastly different.
June 1, 2005 - 07:35 AM on June 1st, 2005
“if so, then Clinton’s acts are similarly “allegedâ€, wouldn’t you agree?”- Mr. Clinton had his day in court.
June 1, 2005 - 07:48 AM on June 1st, 2005
“The alleged acts of Nixon are no worse than that of Clinton.”
I understand that your position is shared by many, but I completely disagree.
President Nixon was trying to cover up a criminal act. President Clinton was trying to cover up the fact that he is a man-slut. That is a big difference to me.
June 1, 2005 - 07:53 AM on June 1st, 2005
18- No if you recall, he committed perjury, which is a criminal act. The lost his law licence for 5 years and was banned from trying a case in front of the Supreme Court. He also got a fine.
June 1, 2005 - 08:10 AM on June 1st, 2005
Well, I think President Nixon’s transgressions were far worse than President Clinton’s.
June 1, 2005 - 08:26 AM on June 1st, 2005
22,
No doubt, I agree. Nixon was attempting to make the Presidency into a monarchy. His transgressions were far worse than Clinton’s, the only commonality is that they both brought shame to the office.
Ted
June 1, 2005 - 08:34 AM on June 1st, 2005
shiloh wishes he could be a “Deep Throat”, but all he’s been is “Deep Commode”.
June 1, 2005 - 08:53 AM on June 1st, 2005
There is no evidence that Nixon even knew of the break in, let alone ordered it….some people here have some vivid imaginations.
Would that you got so worked up when muslim animals were REALLY depriving people of their rights….to live.
June 1, 2005 - 08:57 AM on June 1st, 2005
But he is a republican, so that must mean that he was a racist, sexist, bigot, tool of the rich.
Too bad he never ACTUALLY killed anyone, like say……some democratic senators.
June 1, 2005 - 08:58 AM on June 1st, 2005
I remember a movie about J. Edgar and some FBI honcho taking his records then using them to bring down Nixon. Did Felt talk to a screenwriter???
If Felt is so honorable, why is Gary Aldrich, who blew the whistle on a former bar bouncer requesting hundreds of FBI files of people who the Clintons thought of as enemies, so vilified by the people celebrating Felt??
June 1, 2005 - 09:08 AM on June 1st, 2005
peejz, if you’re watching #29 is a prime example how folks editorialize constantly to talk about blaming someone for something.
there’s always blame enough for us weaselly liberals to lay on you &, obviously, more than enough to lay on us.
this website is the political version of the energizer bunny.
June 1, 2005 - 09:11 AM on June 1st, 2005
30,
I completely disagree with that assertion. The war could have easily been won if the Armed Forces were allow to fight the war, instead of the politicians. We withdrew from Viet Nam and it was a mistake to do so.
We are repeating the same mistake in Iraq that we did in Viet Nam. If we allow the armed forces to do what they do instead of politicizing it this battle (Iraq) will be over sooner than later.
Ted
June 1, 2005 - 09:15 AM on June 1st, 2005
Yeah, but remember Ted….someone might point at a muslim animal’s genitals…that would be bad!!!
June 1, 2005 - 09:29 AM on June 1st, 2005
disagreements is what makes the site go ’round.
this country would not have tolerated the number of American deaths it would have taken to win Vietnam. the North Vietnamese ate a bowl full of rice, lived in holes and fought the French, fought us & would have fought the next guy, because their cause was just in their eyes and were willing to sacrifice more, die more and last longer than any occupier could have come close to.
Vietnam was a preemptive war that we lost & were always going to lose.
if you think Iraq is bad, occupying Vietnam would have been quite impossible.
June 1, 2005 - 09:30 AM on June 1st, 2005
33
i forget – how does one differentiate between a Muslim animal and a non Muslim animal?
can you tell by looking?
June 1, 2005 - 09:59 AM on June 1st, 2005
35, same way you consider Felt a hero and Aldrich a piece of lying crap. It all in the bias and prejudice of the beholder.
BTW, shiloh, you talk to mawmaw about your little posts here?
June 1, 2005 - 10:33 AM on June 1st, 2005
36 – did i call Felt a hero? i must have missed it. does it mean anything when you assign these values to me without asking?
i do think when he saw how Nixon was attempting to manipulate the Bureau illegally to protect the ongoing criminal cover up – it could have pissed him off to the point where exposing the scheme was a viable option.
he might have gone to a prosecutor or a grand jury, but when dealing with the President of the United States, i would guess finding a venue to accuse the Chief Executive of felonious conduct could be a tricky thing.
perhaps, & just perhaps, it was a little heroic to risk ruin for principle. or heck, he could have been angry about not getting a promotion.
i am not willing to condemn him without knowing what he was up against. you must like him a little, he was convicted of authorizing illegal wiretaps & searches of anti_Vietnam groups – that would make him your guy, a little, yes?
Reagan had to pardon him so that might give him some credentials among the right wing.
would you rather have had Nixon uncaught?
June 1, 2005 - 10:54 AM on June 1st, 2005
24- “Nixon was attempting to make the Presidency into a monarchy. His transgressions were far worse than Clinton’s”- How was he trying to make the prsidency ionto a monarchy? How were his transgressions far worse?
June 1, 2005 - 10:57 AM on June 1st, 2005
29- A quote from Liddy today; ” If he were interested in performing his duty, he would have gone to the grand jury with his information”
June 1, 2005 - 11:04 AM on June 1st, 2005
monarchy, form of government in which sovereignty is vested in a single person whose right to rule is generally hereditary and who is empowered to remain in office for life.
June 1, 2005 - 11:14 AM on June 1st, 2005
Well, this was all 30+ years ago so it’s a moot point but I’m glad that the identity is finally out.
June 1, 2005 - 11:17 AM on June 1st, 2005
41- I think the fact that it happened 30 years ago says a lot about the situation. Do you think the government of 2005 would handle it the same?
June 1, 2005 - 11:42 AM on June 1st, 2005
Felt knew the crimes being committed. going to a grand jury did not guarantee anything. especially when the Justice Department in the persons of L Pat Grey (a White House stooge) and John Mitchell, convicted of a felony & trying to cover-up the info Felt got out, were running things.
perhaps going to the Post was a way to ensure the facts did get out, unfiltered by government BS.
& now there are laws protecting ‘whistle blowers’ from retribution. whistle blowers should be seen as the good guys, shouldn’t they? many agencies (like the AMA, ABA & many other professions) try to get away with investigating themselves with predictable results.
it wasn’t Felt who led to Nixon’s resignation. if we keep our eye on the ball, it’s the burglars, the Chapins, the Haldemans & Erlichmans & the Mitchells and the other convicted felons like Liddy who should be ashamed of what they did to this country.
piling on Felt is a classic diversion from those who bear the complete responsibility for a humiliating chapter for the Presidency.
the evidence of the crimes that administration committed is public record. compare that to the evidence (not here-say) against the Clinton Administration and let me know where the scales balance.
i fear that in some comments above, some have Lady Justice tossing her blindfold aside and, depending on who we’re talking about, making her judgments based on something other than objective evidence.
June 1, 2005 - 11:57 AM on June 1st, 2005
Whose transgressions were worse?
Mr. Felt or President Nixon
June 1, 2005 - 12:15 PM on June 1st, 2005
The humiliating chapter for the presidency involved.
Blowjobs in the oral office
incinerating american christians
ignoring half a dozen attacks against america by muslim animals.
allowing enron, worldcom, et al to run wild
but I guess a bungled hotel break-in was much more of a threat to our republic…..
Pile on Nixon…he was convicted of nothing, and there is NO EVIDENCE that he knew about or did anything…..not like, having his counsel killed, driving a woman into a lake, or anything like that.
get a life.
June 1, 2005 - 12:18 PM on June 1st, 2005
and Felt is a f-ing stooge… a wanna-be FBI director who was disgruntled at not getting the top spot.
I trust him about as far as I can throw him.
and who cares anyway? Who exactly lost their lives in this “scandal”? A white house counsel? oh, shit, that was clinton….. a house full of christians…wait…Clinton again. Sailors on board the USS Cole…oh shit..Clinton again.
Damn.
June 1, 2005 - 12:22 PM on June 1st, 2005
are the tapes evidence of anything? Brookings Institute break in? covering up the Watergate?
lying to the CIA & FBI.
do you just ignore that, pretend it never happened?
June 1, 2005 - 12:27 PM on June 1st, 2005
Your bias and anger combine to make you sound absurd.
June 1, 2005 - 12:37 PM on June 1st, 2005
47, shi, just like you ignore BOTH Clinton’s transgressions. Just like you refuse to comment that Aldrich was in the same league or even purer of motive than Felt.
Shi, I’m a little tired of your Faux persona and such. You were outed. You are such a damaged personality that you have to come here to play head games. Since you hate Bush so much, resign, and don’t give us your victim crap or whine about what dose resigning from the fake job you tell every you have. You are not an honest person here. I know what I can and will say and what I won’t ever say. All I’m saying is stop being the Northern end of a South bound donkey.
Oh, I’m through dropping oblique hints that you are ignoring. Just go do your real job or quit and openly run for office as the person you are in real life. Got the integrity to do that because I doubt you do. Take that, shove it in your pipe, and smoke it.
June 1, 2005 - 12:54 PM on June 1st, 2005
47
you said i consider Aldrich ‘a piece of lying crap’.
i don’t know who Aldrich is.
you really shouldn’t continue to invent what i think & then condemn me for it. there are many unfair things, but that has to be right up there at the top of the list.
June 1, 2005 - 01:00 PM on June 1st, 2005
50, I know you very well know who Aldrich is, what his responsibilities were in the early days of the Clinton transition and at the Clinton White House, and if you have met him. Now, enough of your charade. I tire of your antics.
June 1, 2005 - 01:10 PM on June 1st, 2005
47- Kind of like the Billing records showing up at the WH?
June 1, 2005 - 01:13 PM on June 1st, 2005
i don’t know who Aldrich is. i recall reading his name earlier today in a post, but was not curious enough to find out more.
what is my motive for lying.? do you think i somehow fear a conversation regarding whatever he did? am i known from shrinking from controversy? don’t you think, if i wanted to i could spin some crap as well as you do?
the amazing thing is, i really believe you think i’m lying.
well, have fun with that.
June 1, 2005 - 01:16 PM on June 1st, 2005
43-”Felt knew the crimes being committed. going to a grand jury did not guarantee anything. especially when the Justice Department in the persons of L Pat Grey (a White House stooge) and John Mitchell, convicted of a felony & trying to cover-up the info Felt got out, were running things.”- pretty conclusive given the fact that it was just announced yesterday.
“piling on Felt is a classic diversion from those who bear the complete responsibility for a humiliating chapter for the Presidency.” Much like Monica took the heat? Or Paula Jones? Or Kathleen Willey? Or Gennifer Flowers? All were smeared yet I have yet to see you defend them.
June 1, 2005 - 01:18 PM on June 1st, 2005
47- Not ignoring it just putting it into perspective.
June 1, 2005 - 01:19 PM on June 1st, 2005
53, I know you are lying, Mawmaw knows you are lying, and the people around you whom you’ve asked what a goat roper was know you are lying. I understand you were quite an amusing sight trying to get someone to tell you that one, or trying to repair the damage you did to your cover here by misspelling Kittiwake.
Just get off the game you’ve played here. You have more important things to do. You are not as important as you think you are. That’s something else for you to stuff in that pipe of yours.
June 1, 2005 - 01:19 PM on June 1st, 2005
” now there are laws protecting ‘whistle blowers’ from retribution. whistle blowers should be seen as the good guys, shouldn’t they”- Wow, someone should let Linda Tripp know that.:roll:
June 1, 2005 - 01:20 PM on June 1st, 2005
56″You have more important things to do.”- You are more generous than I PCD:wink:
June 1, 2005 - 01:25 PM on June 1st, 2005
wrong BLOWer peejz
How dare Linda Tripp try and smear the perfect and unassailable character of william Jefferson Blythe Clinton! How DARE SHE!!!!!
Whistle blowers are only heroes when bringing down republicans (or corporate masters in the tobacco or gun lobbies!!!)
I still fail to see what exactly Nixon’s crimes were….. show me a corpse in a lake, and maybe I’ll go along with you.
wait..that was the drunken senator from Massachussettes.
I would argue that John Kohn’s shooting a fleeing vietnamese teenager in the back was a much worse transgression than anything Nixon allegedly did…. or his lying about being in Cambodia…..
what a joke.
June 1, 2005 - 01:29 PM on June 1st, 2005
58, shiloh’s probably on a jihad to find out who outed shiloh. Unlike Felt, I don’t go to a newspaper to do my dirty work.
June 1, 2005 - 01:51 PM on June 1st, 2005
59, Mike, did you note Kerry got a medal for shooting that teenager in the back, yet Lt. Pantano was courtmartialed for killing terrorists in the line of duty? This is a BassAckwards world. One shiloh wants to make more BassAckwards.
June 1, 2005 - 01:56 PM on June 1st, 2005
59- As far as law is concerned, there were no crimes. He was never convicted of anything, and he was pardoned to avoid prosecution or the attempt thereof.
June 1, 2005 - 01:57 PM on June 1st, 2005
shooting a teenager in the back, while filming future campaign video, war-reenactments is apperently the liberals definition of “heroism”
while, pointing at terrorist, muslim animals’ genitals is an act of sheer barbarism, worthy of hanging.
June 1, 2005 - 02:01 PM on June 1st, 2005
62… you mean not even lying to a grand jury?
June 1, 2005 - 02:01 PM on June 1st, 2005
63 “while, pointing at terrorist, muslim animals’ genitals is an act of sheer barbarism, worthy of hanging.”- no Mike, that isn’t the hanging offence. Placing 2 korans on top of each other on top of a TV is:wink:
June 1, 2005 - 02:03 PM on June 1st, 2005
65, No, Flushing down the commode 2 copies of Newsweek to get shiloh to talk about the Progressive conspiracy is.
June 1, 2005 - 02:11 PM on June 1st, 2005
65-:lol:
June 1, 2005 - 02:15 PM on June 1st, 2005
64- Not even that. And I can’t find where he lost his law licence or was forbidden to try a case in front of the Supreme Court:wink:
June 1, 2005 - 02:15 PM on June 1st, 2005
66, or was that trying to flush shiloh and ellis down the commode while yelling, “who is number 2?” a hanging offense?
June 1, 2005 - 02:28 PM on June 1st, 2005
June 1, 2005 - 04:33 PM on June 1st, 2005
34,
The amount of American deaths were inflated due to the strategy employed in Viet Nam, in turn because of the politics that were injected in it. Viet Nam was indeed a just battle (it was just that- a battle in the cold war), and it needed to be finished. Fortunately we won that war, but people who didn’t have foresight didn’t understand that.
Just like in Iraq today- people don’t have the foresight to understand that it is a small battle in a war that will exist for a couple of generations, at least.
Ted
June 6, 2005 - 12:31 AM on June 6th, 2005
Kilo,
You sound mentally ill. It’s well established that people who go around spewing ignorant, hate-filled invective suffer from self-loathing and self-contempt. I hope you get to the root of why you hate yourself so much. Of course, it’s obvious to me.
June 6, 2005 - 12:45 AM on June 6th, 2005
“I still fail to see what exactly Nixon’s crimes were:.. show me a corpse in a lake, and maybe I’ll go along with you.”
Wow. What a moron!
Violations of federal election laws, burglary, conspiracy, obstruction of justice. It seems that people who actually possess some measure of intelligence long ago decided that these activities constitute serious threats to the common weal. Consequently, the FBI, the Justice Dept. and the federal courts spent years working to successfully convict over 30 people in the Nixon Administration of criminal acts against the United States, including the former Attorney General himself.
It amazes me that righties always posture as patriots and great supporters of this nation. In fact, this nation was not created for small-minded, angry little men to vent their spleens and poison public discourse. It is a true mark of the tolerance and generosity of spirit that inform this country’s founding principles that we tolerate these so-called “conservatives”. Conservatives are as anti-American as you can get!
June 6, 2005 - 06:00 AM on June 6th, 2005
72/73- Wow, you come here say nothing but call Mike a moron. At leeast he uses his nam and doesn’t hide like a scarecrow.
June 6, 2005 - 06:06 AM on June 6th, 2005
73-And even a moron such as yourself can see that in light of the position that “deep throat” held within the FBI, a conviction of the POTUS was compromised due to Mark Felt’s illegal actions with the Washington Post.
“Violations of federal election laws, burglary, conspiracy, obstruction of justice. It seems that people who actually possess some measure of intelligence long ago decided that these activities constitute serious threats to the common weal”- did you apply that same standard to Clinton?
“It amazes me that righties always posture as patriots and great supporters of this nation. In fact, this nation was not created for small-minded, angry little men to vent their spleens and poison public discourse. It is a true mark of the tolerance and generosity of spirit that inform this country’s founding principles that we tolerate these so-called “conservativesâ€. Conservatives are as anti-American as you can get!”-a breathing contradiction:roll:
June 6, 2005 - 06:35 AM on June 6th, 2005
“It amazes me that righties always posture as patriots and great supporters of this nation. In fact, this nation was not created for small-minded, angry little men to vent their spleens and poison public discourse. It is a true mark of the tolerance and generosity of spirit that inform this country’s founding principles that we tolerate these so-called “conservativesâ€. Conservatives are as anti-American as you can get!”
Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, this is pot.
Ted
June 6, 2005 - 08:21 AM on June 6th, 2005
yeah, Harry It is a true mark of the tolerance and generosity of spirit that inform this country’s founding principles that we tolerate these so-called “conservativesâ€.
Thanks….we “so called conservatives” will just go on winning elections and carrying the debate….
enjoy your future of perpetual minority status, it suits you well, you and your antiquated ideals.
bye bye.
June 6, 2005 - 08:23 AM on June 6th, 2005
But Call President Nixon a crook if it makes you feel better.. I mean, it’s not like he lied to a grand jury, incinerated a hundred christians, drove a woman into a lake or flew planes into skyscrapers……..
but hey, if he’s your “bad guy”….more power to you.
June 6, 2005 - 09:06 AM on June 6th, 2005
72&73, Harry, you troll, you project your personal short comings upon Mike and upon Conservatives as a whole.
What a sick puppy.
June 6, 2005 - 09:33 AM on June 6th, 2005
It’s amazing that idiots like Harry get their panties in a bunch over Nixon may or may not having knowledge of some idiots working for him being involved in shenanigans 30 years ago…meanwhile there are marauding muslim animals beheading, maiming and blowing up women anc chlidren TODAY, yet, nary a peep from the libs (except of course to defend them and accuse US of “abuse”)
what a world we live in…thank god they are the MINORITY.
June 6, 2005 - 09:37 AM on June 6th, 2005
80-But I am sure the troll could argue themself silly justifing the actions of the terrorists. Somehow it would be our fault.
June 6, 2005 - 10:08 AM on June 6th, 2005
Actually, on September 12th, 2001, I would have detonated a tactical nuclear warhead in the area most likely to have greatest concentration of al Qeda. Also, I had hoped (even though I didn’t have the courage to do this myself) that a group of Americans would hijack an airliner out of India and fly it into the holiest mosque in Mecca. I think that some, but not all, Muslims are the most backward, damaged creatures on Earth, and anything we can do to further their rapid extermination is God’s work. Of course, they are the conservatives of their culture. I guess conservatives of all stripes are angry fascists the world over.
As for Nixon vs. Clinton, get over it. Clinton was impeached. That was the result of our constitutional process. Clinton didn’t threaten to undermine our republican process. Nixon did. Nixon’s crimes were of the highest order. Boy you conservatives would be right out of business if you weren’t able to make outrageously false comparisons — like the one I made between Muslim conservatives and you guys. Unfortunately mine is closer to the truth.
Harry Phillips
June 6, 2005 - 10:12 AM on June 6th, 2005
By putting Nixon out there as if he was convicted of the alleged crimes, one must put Travelgate, Whitewater, Pork futures earnings etc up there with Nixons crimes.
June 6, 2005 - 10:13 AM on June 6th, 2005
By the way, on September 11th, 2002, I would have commemorated the tragedy of the previous year by picking the choicest terrorists in our captivity, and by means of catapult flinging them off the Empire State Building onto a target area painted on Fifth Avenue. Of course, the whole thing would be televised. We would have borrowed some of those amazing camera operators from pro football or golf to follow each of these guys screaming the quarter mile down to the asphalt with nice closeups of the result.
June 6, 2005 - 10:13 AM on June 6th, 2005
You, my friend, are an idiot….however, I’m with you on the flying planes into mosques Idea.
on September 12, 2001, I would have ordered simultaneous nuclear detonations over Riyadh, Tehran, Tripoli, Damascus and Pyongyang.
POOF!!!
June 6, 2005 - 10:16 AM on June 6th, 2005
Nixon chose to resign rather than face the harsh music. Despite independent prosecutor investigations into Travelgate, Whitewater, pork futures, etc., no criminal charges were brought against the Clintons. Nixon’s folks, on the other hand, went to jail by the boatload. Again, since you insist on making the comparison, there is none.
June 6, 2005 - 10:17 AM on June 6th, 2005
Not bad with the catapault idea either..
explain to me this, however, what do you think of lefties who get their panties in a bunch over our guys so much as pointing to the genitals of these animals????
June 6, 2005 - 10:17 AM on June 6th, 2005
Not bad with the catapault idea either..
explain to me this, however, what do you think of lefties who get their panties in a bunch over our guys so much as pointing to the genitals of these animals????
June 6, 2005 - 10:18 AM on June 6th, 2005
Well, there was susan macdougal, james macdougal, web hubbel, and oh….vince foster….wait a minute, wasn’t that a “suicide”?
you don’t see the wreckage of prison terms, death and destruction left in the Clinton’s wake???
June 6, 2005 - 10:18 AM on June 6th, 2005
86-That’s because they ended up dead dumb ass. Do research before posting!
June 6, 2005 - 10:19 AM on June 6th, 2005
Nixon’s resignation was a patriotic act that spared the nation a partisan circus.
would that billy blowjob had learned a lesson from Nixon’s actions.
June 6, 2005 - 10:20 AM on June 6th, 2005
Well, Kilo. At least we have the same opinion of each other!
The one thing we have in common is life in this great country in which despite our rhetoric holds room for people with such divergent ideas.
Perhaps we were both old and grey and have fully enjoyed the fruits of a life in this great country, we’ll take out a mosque together. Until then, go to hell! : )
June 6, 2005 - 10:21 AM on June 6th, 2005
Mike, didn’t Susan McDougal go to jail rather than testify against the Clintons?
June 6, 2005 - 10:22 AM on June 6th, 2005
92-Sure does sound like a familiar scarecrow doesn’t it?
June 6, 2005 - 10:22 AM on June 6th, 2005
But no, not the serial rapist, he just lied to the grand jury, suborned perjury and kept right on truckin’!
I’m my estimation he is a far more foul villian than Nixon.
Nixon’s biggest problem was allowing rogue elements in his administration to go off the reservation in their political warfare, Clinton did it OPENLY!!!!!! Clinton and his bitch on wheels wife are a thousand times more savage.
June 6, 2005 - 10:23 AM on June 6th, 2005
91-He thought nothing of social graces or respect for the office.
June 6, 2005 - 10:27 AM on June 6th, 2005
I guess Harry has no comment on Clinton’s malfeasance… lies, crimes, parters in crime, dead bodies, etc……
just bash a now deceased Richard Nixon.
I think mosques should be banned in the us….when was the last time you saw one of these “peaceful muslims” go up to a cop, soldier, etc., and say…”hey, you see those guys, mustafa, mohammed, and Khalil? They are up to no good, will you please arrest them for the safety of ALL of us?”
HA! Don’t hold your F-ing breath….
Those were “peaceful muslims” in “palestine” dancing in the streets on September 11th….. by the way, had I been in charge, I would have Laid down a Chemical gas bomb in the middle of that little dance party.
June 6, 2005 - 10:27 AM on June 6th, 2005
95-”Nixon’s biggest problem was allowing rogue elements in his administration to go off the reservation in their political warfare”- many people fail to see this aspect of the whole situation. Very astute Mike.:smile:
June 6, 2005 - 10:32 AM on June 6th, 2005
“explain to me this, however, what do you think of lefties who get their panties in a bunch over our guys so much as pointing to the genitals of these animals????”
Those lefties should have their panties shoved down their throats. They give true progressives like myself a bad name.
Just because some of us believe that government should continue to provide a safety net for our weakest citizens and play an active role in fostering economic and cultural life in our country, doesn’t mean that stupid, weak, confused, falsely indignant, power hungry whiners should run around feeling sorry for terrorists. Those guys at Gitmo HATE this country and have plotted and would do anything they could to hurt us. So long as their is the possibility of any active plans to inflict further damage and/or terror on this country, we should use all means possible, including torture, get any information we can to prevent such actions against us.
It’s a real shame about the whole Abu Ghraib thing. So fucking what if we humiliated them? My only concern there would be if our net was too wide and we were careless about who we grabbed and put in that prison. Sorry guys, but I can’t feel okay about incarcerating and torturing someone who had no role in plotting against US forces. Against the others, anything goes.
We bend over backwards to treat those who would kill us with kid gloves. Instead, I think we should tell the media and the do-gooders to fuck off, and treat these guys like they deserve — with all the humanity they would show us.
At bottom, my attitude towards this issue is the same as how I felt about advocates for the homeless in the 1980s. If you so sorely object to their condition, take one home or shut up.
June 6, 2005 - 10:34 AM on June 6th, 2005
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The Clintons ended up dead! My God! My research missed that entirely!
June 6, 2005 - 10:36 AM on June 6th, 2005
99-”At bottom, my attitude towards this issue is the same as how I felt about advocates for the homeless in the 1980s. If you so sorely object to their condition, take one home or shut up.”- Wow, our local scarecrow said the exact same thing:???:
June 6, 2005 - 10:36 AM on June 6th, 2005
100-No Einstein, those involed in the scandals.:roll:
June 6, 2005 - 10:43 AM on June 6th, 2005
I don’t believe the Clintons were criminals at all. I think you guys just scared all that up because you were so horrified that intelligent, educated, thoughtful liberals were in power. I know it also hurt you that they liked Black people.
It really is a form of insanity to indulge in paranoid accusations against the Clintons while ignoring the serious consitutional threats and crimes of the Nixon and Reagan admins. Perhaps we should start discussing Ronnie’s truly criminal administration.
But I understand where you all are coming from. No doubt, the original dinosaurs screamed in agony as they lay dying on their way to extinction.
June 6, 2005 - 10:59 AM on June 6th, 2005
“paranoid accusations against the clintons”
wow…
this guy is really a wacko.
June 6, 2005 - 11:10 AM on June 6th, 2005
103-”I know it also hurt you that they liked Black people.”- I am not sure if I should laugh or cry. That ranks in our top 10 of dumbest comments ever though:roll:
“ignoring the serious consitutional threats “- I believe Clinton took that same constitution oath einstein:roll:
June 6, 2005 - 11:13 AM on June 6th, 2005
I know it also hurt you that they liked Black people.â€-
this is the moment that I learned that intelligent discourse with “Harry” is impossible.
June 6, 2005 - 11:16 AM on June 6th, 2005
hello mr pot…. have you met the kettle?
June 6, 2005 - 11:48 AM on June 6th, 2005
103-â€I know it also hurt you that they liked Black people.â€
I’m glad you all enjoyed that!