Comments on: How dependant are we onArab Oil?

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:44:18 +0000

DeMented Rick?

By: Peejz

Peejz — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:00:49 +0000

8-:lol:

By: Sasha

Sasha — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:43:23 +0000

2: Wow. And the point to all that was...?

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:05:11 +0000

Because of the Enviros, we can’t dvelop ANY more of our own resources. Oil in ANWRA, known oil reserves off the Coast of California and Florida, Nuclear. Hell they even want to tear down the dams we have that produce much-needed Hydroelectric power (even though they are always clamoring for alternative energy sources). Solar power? They love it, but even if we could get the price/watt down, you would have to build huge PV arrays in the desert-and they won’t allow that, having in the last few years placed millions of acres of the Mojave desert in Kalifornia off-limits. Wind power? Great, except that they want to remove the wind farms in Altamont (Kalifornia) because birds are flying into the turbines.

No, they want everything and nothing at the same time. They are mentally ill. Many are hypocrites, too, especially the fat lawyers at the Sierra Klub who live in nice homes and drive expensive, polluting, fossil-fuel burning cars.

The environmental movement has long ago economically been hijacked by the lawyers, and politically by the commies.

By: Dean Esmay

Dean Esmay — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:57:44 +0000

Good old Rick. I’ve been reading him on and off for years, and his favorite debate tactic, #1 with a bullet, has always been the same: assert that those who disagree with him don’t know what they’re talking about, give a bunch of handwaving generalizations about how if they’d educate themselves they’d know they’re wrong, and then quit the field and leave without ever once providing a single reference to data to support his point.

Rick: Arab oil is no more than 15% of America’s total consumption, and Saudi oil is only about 8%. That is a fact, and you do not get to say that fact is irrelevant and if the stupid unwashed masses would just acknowledge this they’d be better off.

It is certainly arguable that the Saudis, because they have excess capacity much of the time, can exert control over the price of oil to a certain extent–but they are hardly omnipotent in this regard.

As for ANWR: The most pessimistic estimates on ANWR–which by the way was always marked off for limited oil development until environmental demagogues tried to stop it–show that it won’t make much difference. More generous estimates show that it might, and would certainly be arguably one part of an overall strategy to reduce dependence on imports, along with a host of other initiatives.

By: Zelda

Zelda — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:49:10 +0000

“you simply are not informed enough on the issue for me or anyone else to engage you in a substantive discussion on the issue.â€

Ha, that’s some good stuff.

However, in the time it took to belittle everyone you could have explained the “core reasons”you alluded to.

By: Peejz

Peejz — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:31:44 +0000

2-”Seriously, educate yourself; this chart is almost irrelevant to the core reasons as to why we are dependent on Arab oil. And if you don’t know why this chart is irrelevant to the reasons for our dependence then you simply are not informed enough on the issue for me or anyone else to engage you in a substantive discussion on the issue.”- I take it you can’t explain yourself:roll:

By: PCD

PCD — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:31:13 +0000

2, Rick, your arrogance is showing. Condesension is not a trump card in a debate, but a white flag stating that you can’t fight a fair fight, but are declaring victory and running away before you get your head handed to you.

By: Rick DeMent

Rick DeMent — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:20:37 +0000

Mr. Snowy et all,

Mr. Snowy, et all,

The unadulterated ignorance on issues concerning energy in general and oil in specific betrayed by your comment about drilling ANWAR is frightening.

Seriously you really need to educate yourself about this issue because drilling ANWR (BTW did you hear, that bill passed, but the oil companies wont even start to tap ANWR oil for another decade, do you know why? Of course you don’t, your still buying the whole “environmentalists”argument).

Seriously, educate yourself; this chart is almost irrelevant to the core reasons as to why we are dependent on Arab oil. And if you don’t know why this chart is irrelevant to the reasons for our dependence then you simply are not informed enough on the issue for me or anyone else to engage you in a substantive discussion on the issue.

By: snowy egret

snowy egret — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:30:05 +0000

We would,nt have to depend on OPEC if we strated drilling in the ANWR and quit listening to the whinny enviromentalist wackos and the liberal left-wing news media:lol: