Jimmy Massey caught in a lie or 2
There is an article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch by reporter Ron Harris on an anti-war fraud named Jimmy Massey. Excerpt:
For more than a year, former Marine Staff Sgt. Jimmy Massey has been telling anybody who will listen about the atrocities that he and other Marines committed in Iraq.
Among his claims:
Marines fired on and killed peaceful Iraqi protesters.
Americans shot a 4-year-old Iraqi girl in the head.
A tractor-trailer was filled with the bodies of civilian men, women and children killed by American artillery.
Each of his claims is either demonstrably false or exaggerated
Some of the lies:
Massey was discharged in December 2003, shortly after returning from Iraq due to depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome.
He began turning up in the press and on broadcasts last spring with stories about military atrocities. Massey’s primary thrust has been that Marines from his battalion – some of whom, he told a Minneapolis audience, were “psychopathic killers” – recklessly shot and killed Iraqi civilians, sometimes, he said, upon orders from their commanders. During a hearing in Canada, Massey said, “We deliberately gunned down people who were civilians.”The Marine Corps investigated Massey’s claims and said they were “unsubstantiated.”
From the beginning, Massey misled reporters.
He backtracked from allegations he made in a May 2004 radio interview and elsewhere that he had seen a tractor-trailer filled with the bodies of Iraqi civilians when Marines entered an Iraqi military prison outside Baghdad. He said the Iraqis had been killed by American artillery.
He told listeners that the scene was so bad “that the plasma from the body and skin was decomposing and literally oozing out of the crevices of the tractor-trailer bed.”
He repeated the story in the Post-Dispatch interview. But when told that the newspaper’s photographs and eyewitness reports had identified the trailer contents as all men, mostly in uniform, Massey admitted that he had never seen the bodies.
Instead, he said, he received his information from “intelligence reports.” When asked if those reports were official documents, he answered, “No, that’s what the other Marines told me.”
Be sure to read Harris’s sidebar article as well:
Why did the press swallow Massey’s stories?
November 6, 2005 - 09:31 PM on November 6th, 2005
Another dirty lying liberal left-wing journalist what a cad:mad:
November 6, 2005 - 10:12 PM on November 6th, 2005
He is not a journalist snowy. He is a vet of the Iraq War.
November 7, 2005 - 12:29 AM on November 7th, 2005
I only hope this guy get has butt beat by some military guy soon for telling lies.
November 7, 2005 - 07:41 AM on November 7th, 2005
If Massey isn’t facing court martial, he should be.
November 7, 2005 - 08:28 AM on November 7th, 2005
This guy has been marching side by side with Cindy! The press had no problem listening to his tales of horror(fiction). Yet not a word about this side of the story!
I am not so sure he can be CM’d PCD.
November 7, 2005 - 08:30 AM on November 7th, 2005
P, I’m going to ask a retired Maring JAG. He’s the one that got a conviction for Bobby Garwood for Deserting in Vietnam and Aiding the Enemy.
November 7, 2005 - 10:06 AM on November 7th, 2005
Peejz,
You might consider looking over at Iowa Voice at the article about Reka Basu, Des Moines Register Columnist, getting caught lying about the deaths of to Iowa brothers in Iraq. Even confronted by the facts, Basu and the Des Moines Register still refuse to appologize to the family of the soldiers.
More arrogant Liberalism. They can scream all day and night about Bush lying (when he hasn’t), but catch them in a lie, they are the most miserable SOBs on the planet.
November 7, 2005 - 12:28 PM on November 7th, 2005
Anti-war smear tactician’s been unmasked
Ron Harris at the Saint-Louis Post-Dispatch exposes the masquerade of one Jimmy Massey, a former Marine sergeant who conducted a blood libel against his fellow soldiers.
November 7, 2005 - 01:13 PM on November 7th, 2005
Looks like he’s a sKerry wanabe. I guess he figures that if he testifies before congress, he’ll have a shot at running for Tsxachusetts Senator.
November 7, 2005 - 02:30 PM on November 7th, 2005
Liberal news is like the horns of a steer a point here a point there and a lot of bull in between:razz:
November 7, 2005 - 03:03 PM on November 7th, 2005
Wow snowy egret that was almost a compliment!
November 7, 2005 - 09:43 PM on November 7th, 2005
Massey instantly qualifies for “Democrite of the Year”. Like a truly loyal, religious Democrite, if you need some dirt, just make itup!
November 8, 2005 - 01:43 AM on November 8th, 2005
A Marine Staff Sergeant who witnessed and participated in atrocities huh? Does he realize that as a non commissioned officer, if his claims are substantiated, he could be court martialled and sentenced to 20+ years for complicity in the commission of war crimes? A buck private can always use the “I was only following orders and am too inexperienced to realize that they were unlawful orders.” Non Commissioned and commissioned officers do not have that luxury. An officer commissioned or otherwise is obligated to refuse to obey an order he/she is reasonably believes to be unlawful. It’s one of the first things they teach you before letting you lead troops. I wonder what his story would change to once precedings were underway.
Lindy Englund had a defense, albeit a weak one. Her boyfriend, a corporal, as an NCO did not. BTW the “I was only following orders” defense seldom works that’s why they drum into the soldiers that they must not follow an order they reasonably believe to be unlawful. It’s what separates US soldiers from any other military in the world. Every other military teaches blind obedience. The US military teaches our soldiers to be thinking combatants not machines. That difference is a huge advantage on an ever changing battle field.
November 8, 2005 - 07:11 AM on November 8th, 2005
Hmmmmm…this brings a book to mind;
“Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
Let’s see, Massey meet Al Franken & Jayson Blair….boys come on over and meet your new buddy Jimmy Massey~
Seriously I don’t know how Massey lasted twelve years in the Marines….
November 8, 2005 - 08:35 AM on November 8th, 2005
FAO, I was thinking the same thing. If he committed these crimes he should be charged and thrown in jail. Thanks for clarifing the rules on this. It really doesn’t surprise me that our military would teach this.
November 8, 2005 - 02:54 PM on November 8th, 2005
I took a troll through Democrat Underground. The Kool-aid drinkers over there are fighting over backing Massey eventhough he’s a liar or not. The one DU’er with some scruples is getting pummeled by the rest of the clowns over there.
November 8, 2005 - 04:40 PM on November 8th, 2005
We’ve learned from the Democrites and the MSM that when Republicans/the Right/Conservatives are the subject of charges, that it is the “nature and seriousness of the charges, not the facts themselves” that are most relevant.