San Francisco Starts Repeal of the Constutition
From Yahoo:
Voters approved ballot measures to ban handguns in San Francisco and urge the city’s public high schools and college campuses to keep out military recruiters.
ADVERTISEMENTThe gun ban prohibits the manufacture and sale of all firearms and ammunition in the city, and makes it illegal for residents to keep handguns in their homes or businesses.
Only two other major U.S. cities ” Washington and Chicago ” have implemented such sweeping handgun bans.
With all precincts reporting early Wednesday, 58 percent of voters backed the proposed gun ban while 42 percent opposed it.
Although law enforcement, security guards and others who require weapons for work are exempt from the measure, current handgun owners would have to surrender their firearms by April…
I’m not sure how New York City was left out of this, but why the heck not ban handguns with how Chicago and DC are known for their low crime rates and almost nonexistent violent crimes. How did Mayor Barry put it???? Oh, yeah. “Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country”. Hard to argue with that kind of logic, but thankfully the NRA will be fighting this one. To take a lesson from Alan Moore, San Francisco Prevails!
November 9, 2005 - 01:03 PM on November 9th, 2005
Just another reason to not only boycott San Francisco, but to quarantine it.
November 9, 2005 - 01:06 PM on November 9th, 2005
how dare the citizens take control of government when the right wingers know what they should do.
stupid citizens.
November 9, 2005 - 01:47 PM on November 9th, 2005
Yes, shiloh, you are so right! Why should the U.S. Constitution stand in the way of what the majority of the people of San Fagcisco want?
Actually, I hope this goes through and the city just accelerates its decline into the cesspool. Perhaps the flight of normal people out of the city will continue until all that is left are the fruits, nuts, and flakes. Then Al Qaida or the Chinese can nuke and destroy it.
It once was a great and beautiful city, and it would be a shame to lose it. But maybe that’s what it will take for the sheeple to wake up and once and for all to see Leftism/Liberalism for what it is, join the thinking people, and relegate Leftism to the trash heap where it belongs.
Liberalism is a form of mental illness.
November 9, 2005 - 01:51 PM on November 9th, 2005
Robert,
when I think of what you said, I think of the film, “Escape from New York”. Maybe that is what will happen, and maybe being placed in such a place is the only way idiots like shiloh will wake up.
November 9, 2005 - 01:59 PM on November 9th, 2005
PCD, you are right, that image comes up in my mind too. I don’t think the Kool-Aid drinkers will ever wake up. I heard an idiot woman argiuing on the radio last night about how ALL private guns should be banned. Of course she just kept repeating all of the cliched, tired arguments that have been refuted years ago. When the host asked her what she would do if there was a riot in her neighborhood and someone kicked in her door (with no means to defend herself) she replied that she “hoped the police would protect her”. When the host pointed out that under certain circumstances they *can’t* do that, she had none/wouldn’t answer. They *can’t* answer that question. That single question/issue alone completely destroys ALL of their arguments. It checkmates them, it is the final word, it shows them to be mentally ill if they pursue their line of thinking.
Liberalism is a form of mental illness.
November 9, 2005 - 02:03 PM on November 9th, 2005
You know, Shiloh, the County I live in is very Conservative. Perhaps we should enact an ordinance proclaiming that Liberlasim is undermining us in time of war, and that known Liberals should be rounded up and placed in concentration camps for the duration of the war. Sounds like a good idea…except that the U.S. Constitution prohibits such a thing…
But by your argument, that shouldn’t matter. Let the people rise up and decide for themselves! Imprison the Liberals!!!
November 9, 2005 - 02:34 PM on November 9th, 2005
6, Robert, how about using flag burning Liberals, like shiloh, as a pinata by unblindfolded citizens with kendo sticks. You could make the events pay per view to decrease county taxes.
November 9, 2005 - 02:55 PM on November 9th, 2005
This proposition is unconstitutional and is going to cost the city of San Francisco a fortune in legal expenses. Unfortunately in the interim, people will be forced to surrender tangible personal property to the government without compensation. This will be a travesty that will result in many people losing thousands of dollars and some businesses closing as the proposition also closed all gun shops located in the city. Unfortunately, the liberals will refuse to admit that their proposition is going to result in the disarming of the law abiding populace, leaving them defenseless against the already armed criminal elements. They have now made virtually every law abiding citizen in the city of San Francisco an easy target for every low life looking for an easy score. I would hope that the NRA would file for an injunction to stop implementation of this until after the courts have ruled on its constitutionality. I fear that since the federal court with jurisdiction is the 9th circus court, the injunction might be denied.
As I was telling an anti gun coworker, I’ll take Switzerland with universal gun ownersip and no violent crime over England or Australia with virtually no legal gun ownership and soaring violent crime ANY day.
November 9, 2005 - 03:30 PM on November 9th, 2005
Wow. What a post. All of you have great points. While I personally am afraid of guns I understand the constitution. I can’t imagine any court not overruling this law because of its constitutionality but then again aren’t the courts in California made up of liberal, activist judges. When all is said and done there will be some sad citizens of SF.
November 9, 2005 - 03:42 PM on November 9th, 2005
You know, SF has been touchy since DiFi got to be mayor through assassination. I wonder what would happen if suddenly the politicos were sudden targets of people who have guns in defiance of the law?
November 9, 2005 - 04:27 PM on November 9th, 2005
It seems that liberals are all in favor of democracy….when they can pay enough people in Kools and Malt Liquor, register enough dead people and cats, to ACTUALLY win at the ballot box.
shocking.
November 9, 2005 - 06:52 PM on November 9th, 2005
Astro- take a look at this article as well as the link within it. This measure was nothing more than a symbolic measure. The Mayor had announced this on Saturday. He knows that this can and will be overturned in court as it is illegal.
November 9, 2005 - 09:34 PM on November 9th, 2005
Very nice article. Thanks, peejz. Now it’s time to majorly b!tch slap the SF Mayor. How much taxpayer money was spent on something that he admits to knowing was illegal???!!!
November 9, 2005 - 10:17 PM on November 9th, 2005
Precisely!:!:
November 10, 2005 - 01:15 AM on November 10th, 2005
sad and insane city.:roll:
November 10, 2005 - 07:34 AM on November 10th, 2005
I will never again visit hanoi on the bay this is by far americas most far left city around and we should not just boycott san francisco but the GIANTS and 49ER as well we boycott FISHERMAN WARF and everything about the place even movies film there NO MORE SAN FRANCISCO
November 11, 2005 - 02:41 AM on November 11th, 2005
Thanks Fred. I aim to please. Of course there is also one other way to go after San Fran to insure they don’t do anything this @#$% stupid again. ANYONE and EVERYONE should keep a list of make, model and serial number of any firearm that they turn in and then form a class action suit against the city for taking their personal property without compensation. That’s unconstitutional as well.
November 11, 2005 - 03:14 AM on November 11th, 2005
I try very hard to stay out of San Franfreako, and if I cannot avoid going there, I make sure I don’t spend one dime there.
I am amazed that the City is still listed in travel guides as being so wonderful and tourists still flock there. If they only knew in advance what a sewer (literally) the city has become. Sure they have all the landmarks, the historical stuff. But walking down the street you will be accosted by a bum every 10 feet.
The trash in the gutters, the ever-present pungent odor of stale urine (because the bums use storefronts as toilets at night) and the constant panhandling surely cannot be what tourists came thousands of miles to experience.
Well, that’ what you get when you have Liberal DemokRat leadership entrenched for years.
November 11, 2005 - 08:24 AM on November 11th, 2005
#6 – Robert
the Defense Department s withholding funding from institutions / college & high schools / that refuse recruiters. there is a case before the Supreme Court challenging the legality of that. until it decides I’ll side with the folks.
banning guns is problematic. if we’re not talking about sub-machine guns, Abrams tanks or thermo nuclear weapons – i like the 2nd amendment.
November 11, 2005 - 08:50 AM on November 11th, 2005
#6
you seem to mock the idea of “people rising up & deciding for themselves” if i’m reading it right.
um, who do you propose should be deciding things if not “the people”?
November 11, 2005 - 11:16 AM on November 11th, 2005
Shmiloh, the people did rise up and decide things..to elect President Bush….TWICE.
how’s that for democracy?
November 11, 2005 - 11:32 AM on November 11th, 2005
21
are these the same people being reflected in the polls being taken today?
apparently alot of them have changed their minds as the facts are being revealed.
November 11, 2005 - 11:39 AM on November 11th, 2005
Our dear shiloh likes to say “as the facts are being revealed”, but in truth no facts are being revealed, just an unending stream of false and rehashed allegations that are refuted over and over. It is just that the kool-aid drinkera and the stuck on stupid MSM can’t drop their anti-Bush agenda.
November 11, 2005 - 12:27 PM on November 11th, 2005
pcd,
do you think Clinton had Vince Foster murdered or is it one of a “unending stream of false and rehashed allegations that are refuted over and over”.
no matter how many investagato-ramas say otherwise, some on this page will have him convicted.
when the other side does the same to your guys, your crying ‘foul’ appears a bit disingenuous.
November 11, 2005 - 12:38 PM on November 11th, 2005
Back to my post #6, shiloh. If the majority in my county deice to imprison Liberals, it would be okay with you? The people had decided!
No, we have a Constitution, and the Constitutionality of law should be decided by Supreme Ct justices who interpret the Constitution in the meaning and intent of the drafters. And NOT in any comparison, context, or input from “foreign law” like that fool O’Connor thinks is just dandy. Good Lord, that gives me the creeps just thinking about a mind that is capable of making that leap being in such a position.
Justices like Scalia, Thomas, Roberts. NOT activist nutjobs like Ginsberg, and not spineless Liberals like Souter and Kennedy.
Liberalism is a form of mental illness.
November 11, 2005 - 12:56 PM on November 11th, 2005
a balanced court – let’s see – shall we have debate or just a court where everybody believes (coincidentally what you apparently believe) the the same thing and, of course, have spines.
it might just be me – but you seem to hate liberals generically.
if that’s the case, i’m sure you will be returning all social security checks & refusing Medicare and lobbying to overturn the voting rights act and Brown vs Board of Education & all the other commie social legislation ‘liberals’ have wrought.
how dare we?
November 11, 2005 - 01:12 PM on November 11th, 2005
26, our WMD (Whacko of Mass Deception) thinks there’s a requirement for a balanced court. As usual it’s wrong. Nothing in the Constitution concerning a balance. Now, to WMD, who knows what it reads through its kool-aid.
WMD, why did the WH disturb the crime scene and intervene in the investigation if this was a suicide?
November 11, 2005 - 01:30 PM on November 11th, 2005
pcd
you’ve reached your conclusions in spite of the investigation’s conclusions. why are you angry when people do it to you?
is it as simple as you’re right, they’re wrong?
that’s convenient for you & convenient for people who believe 180 degrees differently from you, but
believe the same things about you that you believe about them.
say hello to the death of dialog & understanding.
& given the wedge of hatred & passion on either side – the future looks bleak.
November 11, 2005 - 01:46 PM on November 11th, 2005
Our dear WMD, you have been the wedge of Bush Hatred and divisiveness ever since you arrive. You accept no answers other than your pronouncements. You can’t answer questions put to you, yet you demand respect and unconditional acceptance of your drivel. Gehenna!
Your idea of patriotism is to tear down and denigrate the US. Ptui!
November 11, 2005 - 02:33 PM on November 11th, 2005
#26: Another post based on faulty information. Did you know that The REPUBLICANS voted for civil rights in the 60’s, and that DEMOCRATS opposed it?
I would opt of of Social Insecurity IF ALLOWED, and I pay for my own healthcare.