These Kids Understand Debate
I am taking this from Michelle Malkin because it pertains to this post and also ties in with a comment that Robert made in the post.
Last week, I noted a challenge by two students here in Montgomery County, Md., to the unbalanced “Peace Studies” curriculum in the public high school system taught by anti-war ideologue Colman McCarthy. The students, both seniors at Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School, e-mailed me follow-up essays on their experience and their response to some of the MSM coverage of their views. Thanks to Andrew Saraf and Avishek Panth.
Don’t back down, boys.
From Andrew:
The reaction to Sunday’s Washington Post article, in particular the critical reaction to the views I expressed therein, seem to consist of two main charges. The first is that we are conservatives, or Republican “chickenhawks” as one blogger put it, bent on the removal of liberalism from the classroom. In other words, we are witch-hunters. This is absolutely erroneous. Avi and I are also not on any “witch hunt” against those with certain political ideologies. My mother is a teacher; I therefore have a pretty clear understanding of the fact that teachers are human beings with political views.
A certain degree of bias is to be expected in any classroom lecture. The difference is that Peace Studies is a class whose very mission is biased. Mr. McCarthy has in the last few days said such things as this: “People say, ‘You don’t give the other side.’ And I say, ‘You’re exactly right’. ” In classes sometimes disparagingly called ‘traditional’ or ‘mainstream’, bias is fought, and hopefully kept at a minimum. In Peace Studies, there is a resolute refusal to do so. And why? Or, at least, what is the stated reason for this? “This is the other side,” Mr. McCarthy claims, to what we get elsewhere. Every other source of information has a conservative bias. In the meanwhile, as the class learned in a recent reading, we are “on a moving train”, and “you can’t be neutral”.So the class, and its current practices, are based on two rather questionable assumptions: The first is that outside the class, the bias is a conservative one. The second is that neutrality is neither possible nor desirable because history is moving in one clear direction. The moment the existence of other points of view is acknowledged, these assumptions simply fall apart. We find that the liberals complain of a conservative bias, a “right-wing media”, while the conservatives believe that the media and the public school system are controlled by left-wing radicals. Who is right? Is this issue settled? And as for the “moving train”, in truth, we are not yet clear on what direction the train is moving in. What is the course of history? Who has defined it? Who has been responsible for the progress that has been made? Once again, these issues are not settled. But the class is taught as if they are. And that is the problem.
The second charge made against us is that, because we have not taken the class, we are in no position to speak on it or protest it. This is absolutely absurd. By that rationale, what has become a high visibility issue is in fact reserved to the select few who have had the privilege of being seniors at Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School and the infinite wisdom and good judgment required to choose to take the class. This means that parents, bloggers, commentators and all those younger than 17 or 18 have no place in this debate. What I suggest is that we be more rational. Just as a parent with a son or daughter in the class has every right to discuss it, I feel that as a student who has done extensive research into Mr. McCarthy’s educational philosophy, and who has spoken at length with a number of Peace Studies students, none of them with an “Anti-Peace Studies” agenda, I too have a right to engage in discussion about this issue. And my allegations, which were much more tentative at first, have only been further confirmed in the last few weeks.
We asked a student and self-described supporter of McCarthy’s whether he himself ever presented facts or positions that contradicted his own ideology. The answer was “no”. Not once have I heard of statistics provided in the class that would support a conservative interpretation of the issues; but again and again I have heard impassioned talk by his students on the differences in the amount of money spent “on war” and “on the poor”, and on the inequalities in the distribution of wealth in the world, and so on and so forth. The only opposing speaker that has been brought in (of the many speakers), as far as I have heard, has been a parent of one of the students. His cause? He supported animal testing. On every other issue, not one student of Mr. McCarthy’s has been able to produce an example of someone brought in with an alternative view. I have asked them to do so a number of times.
And, of course, there is the inevitable invocation of the class’ status as an elective. This is a very appealing argument to make, because Avishek and I can thus be cast as curmudgeons who just want to keep everyone else from having fun. The problem is that it ignores two fundamental facts: First of all, Montgomery County Public Schools has a duty to apply the same basic standards of educational quality to every class that is offered, whether the class is an elective or not. Among these standards is a recognition that the major issues of our time are not settled; political ideologies are not the equivalent of algebra or physics.
Mr. McCarthy has said that not everyone believes in algebra, and that not everyone believes in physics, but that they are taught anyway, but to attempt to make a comparison between science and math and political beliefs is simply ridiculous. If a only one political ideology is being taught, the class should not be offered. The second fundamental fact is the nonexistence of an alternative. Peace Studies is a class tailored to liberal tastes. The 2nd period Peace Studies class, which we have visited, has only one or two Republicans in it. So the choice is between a political class that represents left-wing views or no political class at all. This could hardly be called a choice.
I would finally like to clarify my goals with this effort. Despite the Washington Post’s unfortunate misstatements, Avi and I are not calling for the “banning” of the Peace Studies class. We recognize that certain aspects of the class are of value. But we believe that alternative lecturers must be brought in, individuals who would teach with Mr. McCarthy on alternating days. That way, both sides will be presented, while the unconventional nature of the experience is preserved. In spite of what some of our critics have said, this does not mean that students will also be “taught war” or “taught violence”. It simply means that more than one narrow view of peace will be presented. Most political ideologies, and surely almost all Americans, ‘believe in peace’. The question is how peace is to be achieved and approached. There is more than one way, and students should be taught as such.
Thank you very much.
Andrew Saraf
From Avi:
People unaccustomed to the intricacies of this issue often assume that Andrew and I stand for violence in a debate of peace vs. war. They think along the lines of, “What is wrong with peace?” Peace is good and olly good can come out of a study of peace. Peace itself is perhaps the noblest of goals; my problem with Mr. McCarthy’s class is not his inculcation of a peaceful message, but the one sided, political nature of his teachings. Mr. McCarthy only teaches his way of achieving peace, a brand of peace that is conspicuously intertwined with his political agenda.
My observations of the class have reinforced the idea that Mr. McCarthy’s teaching is limited to a specific kind of peace; in essence, it is his way to peace or no way to peace: as he said, “I cannot in good conscience teach the other side.” For example, Mr. McCarthy teaches peace as strictly a means to a peaceful end. He consistently fails to recognize that violence is sometimes necessary to achieve a greater peaceful goal.Bringing peace to Europe during the reign of Hitler could only have been achieved by forceful military intervention; peace is often relative to the situation. Furthermore, Mr. McCarthy integrates his teaching of peace with his views of how society ought to be. For example, he has called free market capitalism a form of “economic violence,” competitive school sports a form of athletic violence, and grades/tests/homework a form of “academic violence.” He claims that the US has a violent constitution and a society that thrives on violence.
As the moral and peaceful solution after 9-11, Mr. McCarthy called on America to apologize to the terrorists and ask for forgiveness in reciprocation. The validity of his ideas aside, it is clear that his thoughts on peace transcends benevolent altruism; the form of peace, which he has admitted is the only one he is willing to preach, is at best subjective and political.
Over the past 40 years of education, the prevailing trend has been to shift from a narrow provincial way of thinking to much broader, encompassing view. We have gone from ethnocentric views of history to study of all civilization, a study of only western literature to reading books from around the world. The trend in peace studies is the complete opposite. It goes from a broad, encompassing way to look at the world to an extremely narrow view, which is set down by one man who feels that his way is the right and only way.
Mr. McCarthy encourages students to protest the war outside of school every Friday (with signs such as “Bush is a Nazi” and “Make Love not War”) and cut class to protest in front of governmental institutions, because he feels that it is his prerogative to rights the wrongs of a violent society and to circumvent the cabals of the conservatives (recently justifying his class by deeming it a balance to Republican dominance in all branches of government). Mr. McCarthy’s promulgation of his political agenda through the incorporation of peace into politics is what I find dissolute.

March 7, 2006 - 08:50 AM on March 7th, 2006
Time to dump these rediclous studies especialy when their tuaght by some lying reptile like that McCarthy lowlife:mad:
March 7, 2006 - 11:08 AM on March 7th, 2006
Apologize for September 11th? How could the USA possibly apologize to people who murder indiscriminately and try to use the holy book of the Koran as justification? This is not peace, it is absurdity. This “teacher” should be fired, it’s embarrassing that the school still employs him. Do administrators audit these classes? If not, this situation definitely provides a major incentive… Teachers have an enormous responsibility; shaping and molding the minds of the men and women who will ultimately be running the USA in one of the most difficult periods of history the nation has ever faced (health care, the rise of china, continued globalization). When a teacher abuses this power, swift action must occur.
March 7, 2006 - 11:27 AM on March 7th, 2006
The core truth when you see sdomeone like this McCarthy is that you almost don’t need to know anything more about his philosophy, style, or beliefs. While the writers of that article have analyzed and described McCarthy well, there is no longer any need to understand him, enable him, or indulge him once you get to the part about “As the moral and peaceful solution after 9-11, Mr. McCarthy called on America to apologize to the terrorists and ask for forgiveness in reciprocation.”
Anyone who could believe that, who could really think that is the answer, that could put their faith in a solution like that is either:
1. Mentally ill.
2. A complete idiot.
3. A self-deluded moron.
4. All of the above.
The entire weight of history stands as witness against appeasement to evil as a successful response. Now of course McCarthy would probably argue that the terrorists are not evil, then go on to rationalize their behavior while painting America as evil. That is where items 1 through 4 above manifest their applicability.
People like McCarthy can think what they want, can stand on the street corner and proselytyze all they want, write letters to the editor all they want. They shouldn’t be agendizing classroom teaching on the public dollar and damaging the minds of students.
McCarthy and all extremist whackos like him, whatever their stripes, should be fired.
March 12, 2006 - 01:37 AM on March 12th, 2006
All I can say is WOW.. I really didn’t believe people thought this way. What is so wrong with peace? I mean life is so short why are in you such a hurry to end it. Why is being a liberal such a bad thing? What is wrong with helping our fellow man/woman, living on non-polluted earth (for our kids and grand kids), not torturing them. Again all I can say is wow