Comments on: A Product Of Berkeley’s Imgaination

By: snowy egret

snowy egret — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:31:18 +0000

Berkeley the place where terrorists get educations and diplomas:lol:

By: FrmrArtyOffcr

FrmrArtyOffcr — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:23:40 +0000

A friend took a college statistics course where the text was titled “How to Lie with Statistics”

By: Alyssa

Alyssa — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:09:57 +0000

I don’t really put much stock into studies like these, no matter what the subject is about. Basically, if you’re good, you can make the outcome be anything you want it to be. It’s not ethical, but it happens. And any outcome can also be based on a number of variants.

The research is laughable. As the reader who wrote the letter in Peejz’s post showed, you can interpret things in a number of ways. Also, if the researcher is IN the room with the children and “hovering” around, the children are going to act differently.

By: Alyssa

Alyssa — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:02:46 +0000

Oops, Mike kilo, I misunderstood what you were saying. I reread it and I know what you mean now.

By: mike kilo

mike kilo — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:54:46 +0000

Pauline Kael, movie editor for the New Yorker magazine. In 1972, when Richard Nixon won an overwhelming and historic victory in the Presidential election, carrying every single State except Massachusetts and the District of Columbia, Pauline Kael was terribly surprised. She said when commenting on this: Nixon can’t possibly have won. I don’t know a single person who voted for him.

There you go… What does it tell you when these New York Media types, or Stanford Professors can go months, years, without ever coming into contact with someone who disagrees with them.

By: mike kilo

mike kilo — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:52:11 +0000

6. Alyssa..those are TEACHERS, not students.

No, we don’t need affirmative action for conservatives, we need common sense people to realize that having a campus full of professors who all think alike politically is not fertile ground for intellectual curiosity.

Liberals say that they are in favor of diversity…let’s see them practice it and start having newsrooms and universities where there is real diversity of opinion.

By: Alyssa

Alyssa — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:04:00 +0000

It’s interesting…why do you suppose the number of conservative students at universities is so low? If we’re not careful in quoting those numbers, Mike kilo, some liberals lacking a solid argument might use those numbers to state an untruth that conservatives are less educated.

By: Chuck Wolber

Chuck Wolber — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:44:15 +0000

Those are very interesting numbers. What inferences do you draw from them? Do we need “affirmative action” for conservatives?

By: mike kilo

mike kilo — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:34:30 +0000

Chuck

I don’t dispute your experience, but it’s purely anecdotal.

Survey after survey after survey states the obvious.

Liberals outnumber conservatives 18 to one at Brown University. At Cornell University, the number is even higher, with liberals outnumbering conservatives more than 26 times. Penn State displayed a bit more balance, with the ratio of liberals to conservatives being six to one. Even the smallest disparity, at the University of Houston, had a ratio of three liberals to one conservative.

Of the 166 professors examined at Cornell University, only six were conservatives, with no conservatives at all in the fields of history and sociology. There were likewise no conservatives in these fields at Brown University.

Some of the largest disparities were found in the University of California system. UCLA, for instance, has only nine conservatives for 141 liberals. UC-Santa Barbara had only one conservative professor in the 73 examined. At the four UC schools surveyed, there were only five conservative political science professors compared to 90 liberals.

At UC-Berkeley, only seven of the 66 professors noted were conservatives, with none in the department of sociology.

By: Chuck Wolber

Chuck Wolber — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:11:11 +0000

I guess that wasn’t my experience. My college campus (a very large university in the state of Washington in the mid to late ’90’s) had a very diverse climate. I personally witnessed many instances of liberal hippie types engaging conservative professors and conservative students engaging liberal professors. When the arguments stuck to the facts and didn’t get emotional, it was very interesting to watch the point/counterpoint.

As a result, I can point to several key viewpoints that I had going into college that clearly shifted to the right and none that shifted further to the left. I would have definitely defined myself as a far left liberal going in. After graduating, I wasn’t even close to that. My college eduction definitely shifted me rightward.