Comments on: Sedition And UC Santa Cruz Go Hand In Hand http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:05:09 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: snowy egret http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221292 snowy egret Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:25:26 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221292 Shut off all their money and that inclueds tuition and student loans and lets see how these little crap heads like getting a job and getting them off their fat spolied little rears:mad: Shut off all their money and that inclueds tuition and student loans and lets see how these little crap heads like getting a job and getting them off their fat spolied little rears:mad:

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221228 Peejz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:47:40 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221228 <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004978.htm" rel="nofollow">Based on this</a>, it appears legal action will take place over this incident and it appears that the suit will ask that all federal funds be withheld! Looks like a fine organization to donate money too:wink: Based on this, it appears legal action will take place over this incident and it appears that the suit will ask that all federal funds be withheld!

Looks like a fine organization to donate money too:wink:

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221226 Peejz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:41:02 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221226 <em>But campus officials had worried that Tuesday's protest would get out of hand as it had last April, when Students Against War protesters <strong>surrounded the table where military personnel sat, and hundreds of other demonstrators engaged in an angry protest outside. Some of the recruiters reported that their tires had been slashed and one employee at the career center was injured.</strong> </em> According to the university, last year included violence. Mike brought up a good point: <strong>The difference is, "question all”..universities establish "safe zones"and "free speech"zones where leftist groups like NOW, NARAL, etc. are allowed to disseminate their messages without obstacle.. even racist organizations like the NAACP, or "Black student unions"are protected by the universities Why is it that recruiters cannot be afforded the same protections?</strong> Like I said, withhold the $80 million and you better believe that the school will go out of its way to assure that the recruiters aren't bothered! But campus officials had worried that Tuesday’s protest would get out of hand as it had last April, when Students Against War protesters surrounded the table where military personnel sat, and hundreds of other demonstrators engaged in an angry protest outside. Some of the recruiters reported that their tires had been slashed and one employee at the career center was injured.
According to the university, last year included violence.

Mike brought up a good point:

The difference is, “question all”..universities establish “safe zones”and “free speech”zones where leftist groups like NOW, NARAL, etc. are allowed to disseminate their messages without obstacle.. even racist organizations like the NAACP, or “Black student unions”are protected by the universities

Why is it that recruiters cannot be afforded the same protections?

Like I said, withhold the $80 million and you better believe that the school will go out of its way to assure that the recruiters aren’t bothered!

]]> By: question all http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221225 question all Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:18 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221225 The event last year was not physically violent. Why would the recruiters assume that they would be this year when there was even better security? Everything I've read about the university's actions show them actively working to balance the freedoms involved. Apparently free speech costs $80,000,000. The event last year was not physically violent. Why would the recruiters assume that they would be this year when there was even better security?

Everything I’ve read about the university’s actions show them actively working to balance the freedoms involved.

Apparently free speech costs $80,000,000.

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221221 Peejz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:58:28 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221221 Had the university done their job, the recruiters would not have found it necessary to leave! The recruiters left because they saw the threat of violence. Take the $80 million and give it to a school that can assure that the recruiters can be represented at a campus affair from start to finish! Had the university done their job, the recruiters would not have found it necessary to leave! The recruiters left because they saw the threat of violence. Take the $80 million and give it to a school that can assure that the recruiters can be represented at a campus affair from start to finish!

]]> By: question all http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221218 question all Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:35:44 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221218 Thanks - I try and debate and you call me dumb. From the Santa Cruz Sentinel: UC police had lined up extra officers in anticipation of Tuesday's event from UC Berkeley. The extra officers, though, were not needed and stayed out of sight...Despite one arrest, both students and administrators said the protest was more peaceful than the one last April when students stormed through a narrow entrance way, shutting down the job fair and angering fellow students looking to meet with recruiters. Clearly the university recognized an earlier problem and made improvements of access to the recruiters. So I'll ask again - how does this suggest that their federal funding should be withdrawn? Thanks – I try and debate and you call me dumb.

From the Santa Cruz Sentinel:

UC police had lined up extra officers in anticipation of Tuesday’s event from UC Berkeley. The extra officers, though, were not needed and stayed out of sight…Despite one arrest, both students and administrators said the protest was more peaceful than the one last April when students stormed through a narrow entrance way, shutting down the job fair and angering fellow students looking to meet with recruiters.

Clearly the university recognized an earlier problem and made improvements of access to the recruiters.

So I’ll ask again – how does this suggest that their federal funding should be withdrawn?

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221214 Peejz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:15:53 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221214 Question should the protest have turned violent for you to get it? People's rights were being trampled upon based on the fact that they were prohibited from getting to the recruiters:roll: Mike, I think I found the child left behind! Question should the protest have turned violent for you to get it? People’s rights were being trampled upon based on the fact that they were prohibited from getting to the recruiters:roll:

Mike, I think I found the child left behind!

]]> By: San Francisco Liberal http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221210 San Francisco Liberal Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:04:37 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221210 Nicely done, <em>question all</em>. Use <strong>facts </strong>to fight conservative <strong>fiction</strong>. Nicely done, question all.

Use facts to fight conservative fiction.

]]> By: question all http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221207 question all Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:53:06 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221207 No - What part of this don't you get? University officials recognized the threat and wanted the recruiters to meet with those who wanted to meet them. "David Kliger, campus provost and executive vice chancellor, said the school was most concerned Tuesday about safety issues, but also wanted to preserve access to the recruiters for students who wanted to speak with them..." They had additional security available if the the protest turned violent and hoped for weather events that would keep the protest as small as possible. "officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police." If laws were broken they had police in place to handle the situation. Short of forbidding free speech it appears that they covered their bases. How would their official actions require funds to be withdrawn? No – What part of this don’t you get?

University officials recognized the threat and wanted the recruiters to meet with those who wanted to meet them.

“David Kliger, campus provost and executive vice chancellor, said the school was most concerned Tuesday about safety issues, but also wanted to preserve access to the recruiters for students who wanted to speak with them…”

They had additional security available if the the protest turned violent and hoped for weather events that would keep the protest as small as possible.

“officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police.”

If laws were broken they had police in place to handle the situation. Short of forbidding free speech it appears that they covered their bases. How would their official actions require funds to be withdrawn?

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-221205 Peejz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:19 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/04/12/sedition-and-uc-santa-cruz-go-hand-in-hand/#comment-221205 28-why allow 100 students put you in a position of losing 80 million? The school only hoped for rain. That was their plan. They did nothing to curb the actions of the protestors, and it was not all peaceful as you say. The protestors blocked people from entering, therefore cutting off their contitutional right to enter the exhibit! What part of this don't you get? <strong><em>Kliger said officials had tried to engage the anti-war student group in discussions in the weeks leading up to the fair. But when talks broke down, officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police. </em></strong> 28-why allow 100 students put you in a position of losing 80 million? The school only hoped for rain. That was their plan. They did nothing to curb the actions of the protestors, and it was not all peaceful as you say. The protestors blocked people from entering, therefore cutting off their contitutional right to enter the exhibit!

What part of this don’t you get?
Kliger said officials had tried to engage the anti-war student group in discussions in the weeks leading up to the fair. But when talks broke down, officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police.

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