Apparently not interested in learning beans about history either. I’m not advancing any conspiracy theories, I’m simply relating facts. Not opinions, just the facts from what I watched unfold during my and apparently Robert’s lifetime. My guess would put it at least 10 years before yours, or at least before your becoming politically aware. Nothing wrong with not knowing facts before you were old enough to learn or understand them. There is something horribly wrong with not being at least willing to investigate facts you don’t agree with to determine their legitimacy. San Fran, I don’t ask you questions to make you look stupid. You are not stupid, simply ill informed as to the history that has lead us to this point in time. Look up the information that I ask you to and stop trying to use opinions to bolster your arguments and you will gain a lot more respect from the readers of this blog.

With the exception of BJ Billy’s “It depends on your definition of the word “is”" argument, most people understand the meaning of the word FACT. Facts unlike opinions and contrary to Democratic arguments do not change with point of view. If someone is dead, it’s a fact. If someone says, I think they’re dead, that’s an opinion. Maybe the person is dead, maybe they aren’t.

No, I’m just not very interested in conspiracy theories.

I see there is no rebuttal. I guess this is one occasion where even he can’t dispute the facts.

I’m old enough to remember the Carter Debacle. I can remember double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, and double digit interest rates. I can remember watching the students tear down the flag from the US Embassy in Tehran. I can remember how Carter refused to take any action to retrieve our embassy employees until it was too late. I remember how the entire Desert One operation was botched because they insisted on using men and equipment from every service instead of the best equipment for the job. Why would anyone use a Sea Stallion helicopter in a desert environment knowing that it had a history of not operating well in dusty environments? Why is it that Ross Perot could get a bunch of employees out of Tehran while the US government couldn’t? Ross Perot hired a bunch of former Green Berets and SEALS and sent them in to Tehran to retrieve his employees and they got everyone out alive. Could it be that he was willing to pay whoever it took to get the intelligence necessary and his operational coommander kept to the basic plan of KISS – Keep it simple, stupid versus trying to play political patty cake so no one’s feelings would be hurt? Isn’t liberalism grand?

You can try, but you’ll be wrong.

The CIA agents who were “asleep at the wheel” during the 90s are trying to discredit any intelligence documents that might demonstrate that fact. Also totally believable. Considering that anyone who was working in the intelligence community from January 1993 to January 2001 would’ve been working for an antagonistic administration, anyone who was still there was probably of the Valery Plame vintage. Hardly a high endorsement. Seeing as she not only lobbied to get her husband sent to Niger, but also “failed” to have him sign the requisite security document thereby allowing him to write the now discredited NYT Op Ed. I would hardly call her a shining example of the best and the brightest this country has to offer. Add to that the “Wall” that Jaime Gorelick built to prevent intelligence and law enforcement agencies from sharing data, is it any wonder that the CIA is circling its wagons to discredit these documents?