Kos is Telling Fish Tales
By: Pam On: May/9/06 - 59 Comments
I laughed until I cried on this one! Kos thinks he finally caught the POTUS in a lie!
Jesus. H. Christ. Is Bush even capable of telling the truth?
Bush says the highlight of his presidential career was catching a 7.5 pound perch in his lake. Except that…
The only problem is that the world’s record for the largest freshwater perch caught is 4 pounds 3 ounces.
So Bush either doubled the world record, and didn’t report it, or he’s a liar.
Now here is what the POTUS said:
President Bush says his best moment in office was the time he caught a 7 1/2-pound largemouth bass.
Wow Kos..you sure caught him in that one didn’t you!
May 9, 2006 - 09:03 AM on May 9th, 2006
This is what the “Bush Lied” crowd has resorted to……fish?
May 9, 2006 - 09:06 AM on May 9th, 2006
You’ve got that right Mike:razz: Is that not one of the saddest things you have seen! Pathetic!
May 9, 2006 - 09:25 AM on May 9th, 2006
What is so pathetic is those bozos going off on their delusions, not on what reality is. This is the same behavior about the State of the Union speech and WMD in Iraq. They are so deluded and insane that the truth and reality mean nothing to them. They have their delusion to shreik about and will until the day they die.
May 9, 2006 - 09:52 AM on May 9th, 2006
“What is so pathetic is those bozos going off on their delusions, not on what reality is.”
Wait a sec…you are accusing the Left of being delusional…on a thread where Bush is exposed as having made up a fish tale about the size of a Perch he caught?
Am I the only one who sees the irony here?
Obviously this Tall Fish Tale is not a big deal at all – but it’s great because it’s yet another example of how the truth and reality is subjective to the Bush Brain.
(And apparently with some of his supporters, too!)
CLEARLY, the world’s record for the largest freshwater perch is biased to for Left – and hates America and the troops.
May 9, 2006 - 09:55 AM on May 9th, 2006
4- Dear San Fran- please go back and read my entire post from start to finish and then tell me what is wrong with your post. Clue: you and Kos either can not, or refuse to read what was said.
May 9, 2006 - 09:57 AM on May 9th, 2006
SF is pathetic. You obviously can’t read. Who tells you what to type, SF???
May 9, 2006 - 09:59 AM on May 9th, 2006
OMG… 400+ millionaire lawyers are sitting in washinton, laughing their sick, friggin’ asses off at us, as we argue and nya nya each other over fish…..
May 9, 2006 - 10:21 AM on May 9th, 2006
“4- Dear San Fran- please go back and read my entire post from start to finish and then tell me what is wrong with your post. Clue: you and Kos either can not, or refuse to read what was said.”
Ok, I admit, I didn’t read your whole post all the way to the end, only because I read this news bit yesterday about the PERCH…
Am I the only one here on Right Vices who read about the perch yesterday?
Somehow, the translations got mixed up…
here is what I saw…
Bush’s best moment in office? Reeling in big perch
Reuters
Monday, May 8, 2006; 1:14 AM
BERLIN (Reuters) – President Bush told a German newspaper his best moment in more than five years in office was catching a big perch in his own lake.
“You know, I’ve experienced many great moments and it’s hard to name the best,” Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001.
May 9, 2006 - 10:28 AM on May 9th, 2006
Note that I linked to the story as it appeared in the WaPo on Sunday. Not yesterday. The story that the WaPo wrote coincides with the AP wire.
May 9, 2006 - 10:28 AM on May 9th, 2006
Come on, SF.. can you let up on the man for a second? You know damn well, that if your boy Billy BJ had said something similar, you guys would be gushing about what a great “everyman” he is…for one second can you just admit that President Bush might just be a funny, good natured joe, who likes to fish, tell some jokes, hang out, etc? Personally, I’d love to hang out with him, away from politics….much like I probably would have liked to go drinking with billy bj…he’s not darth vader, for christ’s sake.
May 9, 2006 - 10:30 AM on May 9th, 2006
Mike he was joking when he answered the question. There isn’t anything wrong with that. There is something wrong with the fact that somehow he isn’t allowed to joke.
May 9, 2006 - 10:35 AM on May 9th, 2006
Millions of people like me read the version that has him saying “perch”.
REGARDLESS…the man is saying his most proud moment in his presidency was catching a fish, perch or bass, whatever. A fish.
If “Billy BJ would have said something this dumb, you people would SAVAGE him.
Mike, I’m sure he’s an OK guy.
But don’t for ONE MINUTE think he is an everyman guy. He grew up rich and spoiled, was pampered and never had to face consequences that REAL everyday people like you and me face.
May 9, 2006 - 10:48 AM on May 9th, 2006
Of course he is joking, it’s still a dumb thing to say.
May 9, 2006 - 01:36 PM on May 9th, 2006
SF, you are the only one here with BDS so bad you can’t handle the truth and when you are force to face facts, you backpedal into more Bush hate.
You just hate it that Bush has something you don’t have and you will never have. You are just like everyother bargain basement socialist who would trade places with their stated enemy and not change the behavior you so object to.
May 9, 2006 - 01:46 PM on May 9th, 2006
PCD.. I get the feeling that if President Bush said the earth was round, SF would call him a liar….
BHDS… a BAD case.
and it’s a shame, because, unlike you guys, I actually find SF to be a fairly good bloke..he’s just bloody lost when it comes to the issues facing this country.
May 9, 2006 - 02:04 PM on May 9th, 2006
Mike, I severely dislike Liberal know-it-alls who go to a non-liberal blog and announce they are here to educate the readers of that blog. That is asking for a severe SR. Teutel treatment.
May 9, 2006 - 02:05 PM on May 9th, 2006
BHDS is just a part of the overall mental illness of Liberalism. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are bad people, just disturbed, not normal, ill.
May 9, 2006 - 02:08 PM on May 9th, 2006
If the MSM runs with the “Perch” thing perhaps it will just keep getting repeated until it becomes part of the BHDS knowledge base.
Like the “Mission Accomplished” thing (which was totally mischaracterized and warped and now is commonly used as something it never was by the BHDS folks).
May 9, 2006 - 02:59 PM on May 9th, 2006
“You just hate it that Bush has something you don’t have and you will never have.”
Really? What is that?
“BHDS…”
Pfsh. F’ing lame, guys, come on…this has nothing to do with “hating” Bush – besides, don’t be hypocrites, ten years ago you were presidential “haters” too…
“I severely dislike Liberal know-it-alls who go to a non-liberal blog and announce they are here to educate the readers of that blog.”
Dude, what is your major malfunction? I never said I’m a “know-it-all”, and I’m not here to educate anyone…I have just as much right to voice my opinions and contribute to discussions.
It’s not easy when obnoxious as*holes do nothing but attack me personally and call me lame, childish names – instead of attacking my positions like they should be doing.
“That is asking for a severe SR. Teutel treatment.”
I’m curious, what does SR and teutel stand for?
May 9, 2006 - 03:05 PM on May 9th, 2006
“Like the “Mission Accomplished”thing (which was totally mischaracterized and warped and now is commonly used as something it never was by the BHDS folks).”
What?!?!? How can you defend that?!? It was CLEARLY a mistake to do that! Mission accomplished? What was that, three years ago and how many thousands of US soldiers lives ago??
You almost made me fall out of my chair on that one, Robert!!
This is a mental disorder that some Bush apologists have…the inability to apologize for past mistakes, and the inability to accept responsibility.
LOL…
May 9, 2006 - 03:08 PM on May 9th, 2006
“…unlike you guys, I actually find SF to be a fairly good bloke..he’s just bloody lost when it comes to the issues facing this country.”
That’s Mike Kilo. You’re good peoples too. Politically enept due to solid case of conservatism, but a good, smart guy.
May 9, 2006 - 03:34 PM on May 9th, 2006
#20: SFL
ARE you aware:
That the “Mission Accomplished” banner seen on the ship, and referenced by Bush in his sppech onboard, was previously placed there to honor the fact that the ship and its crew were returning home after completing an extended mission in the Middle East?
That it had nothing to do with Bush and the war?
That the ship and its crew had indeed completed their (the) mission?
That much, much later the BHDS crowd glommed onto it, created their mischaracterization of it, then repeated it endlessly until its misuse and misapplication became part of the BHDS/Leftist knowledge base?
Are you aware of all that?
Better get back in your chair…
May 9, 2006 - 03:44 PM on May 9th, 2006
“ARE you aware…”
You got to be kidding me. I looked it up on Google, and sure enough, the story changes.
Which one is it Robert?
Please…:roll:
Six months after he spoke on an aircraft carrier deck under a banner proclaiming “Mission Accomplished,” President Bush disavowed any connection with the war message. Later, the White House changed its story and said there was a link.
The “Mission Accomplished” boast has been mocked many times since Mr. Bush’s carrier speech as criticism has mounted over the failed search for weapons of mass destruction and the continuing violence in Iraq.
When it was brought up again Tuesday at a news conference, Mr. Bush said, “The ‘Mission Accomplished’ sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished.”
“I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff ” they weren’t that ingenious, by the way.”
That explanation hadn’t surfaced during months of questions to White House officials about proclaiming the mission in Iraq successful while violence continued.
MMM-HMMM…gee, I wonder why?
May 9, 2006 - 03:46 PM on May 9th, 2006
“Are you aware of all that?”
Good God, Robert, do you REALLY buy all that? LOL…
“Better get back in your chair…”
I said ALMOST…
May 9, 2006 - 05:39 PM on May 9th, 2006
It’s funny because I read Tommy Franks autobiography and he went into detail on the mission accomplished. It wasn’t for us..it was for the troops to tell them good job and thank-you. He didn’t declare the war over.
May 9, 2006 - 05:52 PM on May 9th, 2006
If that’s true, why did the White House give different versions of events for 6 months or so?
I think they realized it was a political blunder as time went on and Iraq became less and less secure.
Besides, Bush seems to back up the whole mission has ended/accomplished thing by saying in his speech on the deck of the carrier:
“Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.”
Sooooo….did major combat ops end in Iraq in May of 2003??
the answer is no.
f a u x p a s
May 9, 2006 - 06:54 PM on May 9th, 2006
Looks like Kos’s source had to correct his original piece and it gets even better!
UPDATE: Our intrepid readers have discovered that the White House transcript says (or now says) that Bush referenced a bass and not a perch. The question is whether the White House transcript said that initially, where the press got the “perch” language from, and whether anyone has it on film or tape? Perhaps someone from the German press can help us out.
Uh huh.
Go get em scoop!
May 9, 2006 - 09:40 PM on May 9th, 2006
“Sooooo:.did major combat ops end in Iraq in May of 2003??
the answer is no.
f a u x p a s “
Yeah, actually they did. What is going on now is what is known as a “Low Intensity” conflict. Oh, it’s intense enoiugh if you’tre in it. But in the overall scale of things, it is low intensity. That’s an official Military terminology I learned first in the late 1980s. I didn’t just make it up.
Now I know you don’t like to hear it, but them’s the facts.
May 9, 2006 - 09:41 PM on May 9th, 2006
#27: I think “Kos” should change to “Pos”.
May 10, 2006 - 06:43 AM on May 10th, 2006
SF **** ****, SR. Teutel, is Paul Teutel, Sr, of Orange County Choppers. His favorite threat it to put his size dozen boots up someone’s A**!
Also, a quick review of your early posts tell the story you deny, know-it-all.
May 10, 2006 - 07:19 AM on May 10th, 2006
Robert..speaking military terminology to SF is like speaking greek to a cat…..
He’s never picked up a weapon in defense of anything..never raised his hand, taken an oath, stood a post…..he just stands on the sidelines and criticizes… it’s ok, we have to protect even the foolish.
May 10, 2006 - 07:50 AM on May 10th, 2006
Mike,
I think we ought to wall off the SF Bay area and let it become LiberalWasteLand. Then we can hear SF crying about how the SF police have deserted and are failing to defend SWL from invaders and what the invaders are doing.
May 10, 2006 - 08:04 AM on May 10th, 2006
life is always easy for the spectator.
I’d like to hear SF’s views on the military the day that his beloved, hard-working mexicans become the majority in San Francisco, and the crushing taxes and exhorbitant housing costs generate a majority population on poverty (hasn’t this already happened in SF, by the way?), then they proceed to riot and loot….
May 10, 2006 - 08:08 AM on May 10th, 2006
Mike, SF will blame all the stingy Conservatives who haven’t funded the “downtrodden” to the Kennedy lifestyle. Libs like SF never take the blame for their actions.
May 10, 2006 - 08:28 AM on May 10th, 2006
yeah…probably pull out the “REAGAN” card…maybe dazzle us with a “Trickle Down” reference….
May 10, 2006 - 09:59 AM on May 10th, 2006
“SR. Teutel, is Paul Teutel, Sr, of Orange County Choppers. His favorite threat it to put his size dozen boots up someone’s A**!”
“I think we ought to wall off the SF Bay area…”
Please, oh please can we!?!? Will it keep people like you out?
“What is going on now is what is known as a “Low Intensity”conflict.”
LOL…oh, is that what YOU call it? Mr. Arm Chair? When were YOU over there fighting to know exactly what to call it? Oh, wait…you weren’t. So, you’re only telling me what other people tell you, or what you read. Refresh my memory, that makes your opinion more valid than mine…how? …Weak.
“Now I know you don’t like to hear it, but them’s the facts.”
Please. Nice opinion you got there…not really anything “factual” about it at all, Robert. Personal opinion does not equal fact.
May 10, 2006 - 10:12 AM on May 10th, 2006
“I’d like to hear SF’s views on the military the day that his beloved, hard-working mexicans become the majority in San Francisco, and the crushing taxes and exhorbitant housing costs generate a majority population on poverty (hasn’t this already happened in SF, by the way?), then they proceed to riot and loot…”
Mike Kilo, you’re awesome dude. Where do you come up with this stuff?!? And no, San Francisco is not a majority poor city. I looked it up, and you can too, but our median household income is double Philly’s.
And let me make this clear: I do not mind having a majority of Mexicans or Asians around me. Brown skinned people and different cultures do not bother me like it bothers you guys.
Riot and loot…LOL.
May 10, 2006 - 10:25 AM on May 10th, 2006
36- Please. Nice opinion you got there:not really anything “factual”about it at all, Robert. Personal opinion does not equal fact.
Actually it isn’t his opinion, he was stating a fact. It doesn’t fit your arguement, but that’s not his problem.
May 10, 2006 - 10:34 AM on May 10th, 2006
You got any credible news sources to back that up with?
May 10, 2006 - 10:42 AM on May 10th, 2006
And let me make this clear: I do not mind having a majority of Mexicans or Asians around me. Brown skinned people and different cultures do not bother me like it bothers you guys.
and yet you only speak english…….what does that tell you that a big racist like me speaks 4 languages?
and your median household income probably is double philadelphia’s….and your housing costs are triple, and your taxes are quadruple..and as your tax base flees, and the vaunted “immigrants” can’t find work or a place to live, and the public trough runs dry…what do you think will become of that hell hole?
May 10, 2006 - 10:50 AM on May 10th, 2006
“…and as your tax base flees, and the vaunted “immigrants”can’t find work or a place to live, and the public trough runs dry:what do you think will become of that hell hole?”
Pfsh…fear, fear, fear…is that all your side has to peddle?
No wonder it’s losing steam…
May 10, 2006 - 10:55 AM on May 10th, 2006
Oh really??? Let’s talk about fear mongering
“If George Bush is re-elected, rape will be legal”
republicans are spying on people’s phone conversations
republicans will bring back slavery
no fear mongering there……..move along people!!!
May 10, 2006 - 10:55 AM on May 10th, 2006
39-All from the DOD Dictionary of Military and Associated terms
major operation (DOD) A series of tactical actions (battles, engagements, strikes) conducted by various combat forces of a single or several Services, coordinated in time and place, to accomplish operational and, sometimes, strategic objectives in an operational area. These actions are conducted simultaneously or sequentially in accordance with a common plan and are controlled by a single commander. See also operation.
counterattack (DOD) Attack by part or all of a defending force against an enemy attacking force, for such specific purposes as regaining ground lost or cutting off or destroying enemy advance units, and with the general objective of denying to the enemy the attainment of the enemy’s purpose in attacking. In sustained defensive operations, it is undertaken to restore the battle position and is directed at limited objectives. See also countermove; counteroffensive.
and from Wiki
Low intensity conflict
(LIC) is the use of military forces applied selectively and with restraint to enforce compliance with the policies or objectives of the political body controlling the military force. The term can be used to describe conflicts where at least one or both of the opposing parties operate along such lines.
Low intensity operations
Low-Intensity Operations is a military term for the deployment and use of troops in situations other than war. Generally these operations are against non-state adversaries and are given terms like counter-insurgency, anti-subversion, and peacekeeping. Some, depending on political alignment, view LIC as a form of terrorism.[1] The term “low intensity operations” appears to have originated with General Sir Frank Kitson
Weapons
As the name suggests, in comparison with conventional operations the armed forces involved operate at a greatly reduced tempo, with fewer soldiers, a reduced range of tactical equipment and limited scope to operate in a military manner. For example the use of air power, pivotal in modern warfare, is often relegated to transport and surveillance. Artillery is often not used when LIC occurs in populated areas. The role of the armed forces is dependent on the stage of the insurrection, whether it has progressed to armed struggle or is in an early stage of propaganda and protests.
May 10, 2006 - 11:45 AM on May 10th, 2006
I see that, and I also looked it up, but what I’m trying to saying is that the intensity of our conflict in Iraq isn’t black and white; it’s shifting and is hard to put a label on.
The offensive in Tal Afar last fall was called a “major combat operation”
All I’m saying is that to put labels on Iraq like “low intensity” is a poor way to accurately describe the constantly changing situation.
Up, then down…low, then high…
May 10, 2006 - 11:47 AM on May 10th, 2006
“If George Bush is re-elected, rape will be legalâ€
republicans are spying on people’s phone conversations
republicans will bring back slavery
You’re joking right? That’s not fear mongering, that’s saying stupid things.
Fear mongering is saying that if a democrat gets elected, we’ll “get hit” again.
That’s REAL fear mongering…
May 10, 2006 - 11:48 AM on May 10th, 2006
SF…who gives a rat’s ass about “labels”..oh, I know..liberals. Everything with you guys is symbolism over substance.
“We care about poor black children” (as they shackle them in those babysitting gulags with no hope for escape)
“We support our troops!” (as they march, protest, call them killers and terrorists, thus emboldening our enemy)
“we want a livable wage” (as they march and protest in support of illegal immagrants who work for a nickle an hour)
As I have said, whenever a liberal says “I care….” watch your wallet, your ass, whatever..take cover, cuz the shitstorm is a comin’.
May 10, 2006 - 11:51 AM on May 10th, 2006
Fear mongering is saying that if a democrat gets elected, we’ll “get hit”again.
we are going to get hit again, no matter who is in power…. the difference is..only the republicans seem to have the sac to hit back.
well, as long as we don’t apprehend one of these would be killers on the battlefield, imprison them and then POINT AT THEIR SAC…cuz…that would be torture….that would be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
May 10, 2006 - 12:35 PM on May 10th, 2006
“we are going to get hit again, no matter who is in power…”
I agree 110%, but saying that if a DEMOCRAT IS ELECTED WE’LL GET HIT AGAIN is clearly fear mongering and clearly wrong.
And that was a vice president who said that.
Imagine the howls of anger and gnashing of teeth from your side if that particular situation was reversed, and a democrat V.P would say something like that.
May 10, 2006 - 12:50 PM on May 10th, 2006
I don’t care about what ifs
address my point
we are going to get hit again, no matter who is in power:. the difference is..only the republicans seem to have the sac to hit back.
May 10, 2006 - 01:46 PM on May 10th, 2006
44- No it appears you are trying to back pedal on what you said.
May 10, 2006 - 02:46 PM on May 10th, 2006
“No it appears you are trying to back pedal on what you said.”
Well then let me clarify my position for you:
“…(the Iraq War)…in the overall scale of things, it is low intensity.”
I disagree. Here’s why…
Of course there aren’t any WW2 sized battles; I’m not saying there are. All I am saying is that this War is to complex to just label it “Low Intensity”.
Note: I’m not AT ALL saying I know better than Robert on the military. He served, I never have – he wins. I just think that his opinion of Iraq being “Low Intensity” is just that, his opinion - and can be argued against.
And that is why I pointed out that it’s just his opinion and that it does not mean everyone accepts that, and those who don’t are wrong.
that’s all.
next.
May 10, 2006 - 03:44 PM on May 10th, 2006
51- WW2 has nothing to do with what we are discussing. You are the one that is wrong. Robert gave the proper terminology for how the military and government is classifing the actions in Iraq. It is not debatable, as we are in a peace keeping mode with various firefights. Yours is the opinion, but Robert is speaking to the facts.
May 10, 2006 - 10:34 PM on May 10th, 2006
You got any credible news sources
Is there such a thing anymore? And if so where are they having their information dissiminated? Sure as hell not on any of the major networks, even Fox radio news makes reference to things in as derogatory a manner as possible. An example would be calling the intercepting of international communications between suspected terrorists inside and outside of the US as “Domestic Spying.” Why is it that during the Cold war we eavesdropped on every suspected Soviet spy in this country and now we aren’t allowed to listen to INTERNATIONAL calls made to and from phone numbers we have VERY GOOD reason to believe are being used by Al Quaeda terrorists? It is an INTERNATIONAL INTERCEPT, not domestic spying.
As for reliable sources, I would probably opt for the soliders on the ground. The reenlistment rate is it’s highest in decades. There is a line for many National Guard members looking to return to Iraq. (not my comment, was from a National Guardsman who has been on a waiting list for two years to go, but his skill set isn’t in high enough demand to send him.)
May 11, 2006 - 12:08 AM on May 11th, 2006
#36: “What is going on now is what is known as a “Low Intensity”conflict.â€
LOL
h, is that what YOU call it? Mr. Arm Chair? When were YOU over there fighting to know exactly what to call it? Oh, wait:you weren’t. So, you’re only telling me what other people tell you, or what you read. Refresh my memory, that makes your opinion more valid than mine:how? :Weak.
“Now I know you don’t like to hear it, but them’s the facts.â€
Please. Nice opinion you got there:not really anything “factual”about it at all, Robert. Personal opinion does not equal fact.
Peejz (thank you) posted the definitions, and anyone with greater than a room temperature IQ can read them , compare them to what is happening, and make the proper call.
When you are caught between a rock and a hard place, after making another ridiculpous pronouncement, you twist like a contortionist trying to find a way out. You will never just own up and admit that you:
1. Are wrong.
2. Don’t know what you are talking about.
3. Shouldn’t have gone off half-cocked.
You know, I am glad you self-identify as a Liberal. You sure aren’t changing too many minds to your side.
edited for insults.
May 11, 2006 - 06:44 AM on May 11th, 2006
SF liberal,,, please save yourself some shame and quite taliking about “conflicts” or “battles”. Go back to your protest. At least your peers there will think you smart.
May 11, 2006 - 08:08 AM on May 11th, 2006
San Fran.. I have a great hypothetical excercise for you.
I am curious. Assuming the earth’s rotation reverses, and the democrats manage to actually win an election and gain control of Congress in November (it won’t happen, but it’s just a hypothetical), and let’s also, for the sake of this excercise, assume that San Fran Nan Pelosi and the racist John Conyers succeed in impeaching President Bush for actually trying to intercept communications from muslim terrorist to operatives in the United States (affectionately known, in wacko liberal circles as “domestic spying”), and also, for the sake of this argument, Dick Cheney is impeached for, oh, I don’t know, ..hm….. ok, I got it, he is impeached for authorizing the horrific torture of pointing at a would be terrorists ball sac (oh, the humanity!!)…. so, let’s review, the democrats now control congress, Hitler.. I mean Bush has been removed from office.. Halliburton… I mean Cheney is out of the picture (SF Lib will need a cum towel at this point, becuase I believe he just spewed in his pants)
what now? Lay it out for me. Immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq? UN “negotiations” with Ahmedinijad? 7 party talks with Kim Jong-Il? Repeal of Bush Tax cuts?
Gimme the skinny, I’m dying to hear it!
May 11, 2006 - 09:02 AM on May 11th, 2006
SF, creating a liberal ghetto out of SF would put the lie to all you say. Forcefully keeping you in the ghetto will get through your wall of denial. Watching the SF police force try to repel somebody who thinks taking over SF and cleaning out the liberal infestation will be a hoot for the rest of the world.
May 11, 2006 - 10:04 AM on May 11th, 2006
“SF, creating a liberal ghetto out of SF would put the lie to all you say. Forcefully keeping you in the ghetto will get through your wall of denial. Watching the SF police force try to repel somebody who thinks taking over SF and cleaning out the liberal infestation will be a hoot for the rest of the world.”
“Yours is the opinion, but Robert is speaking to the facts.”
They are BOTH opinions, Peejz, why aren’t you understanding that?
Opinion: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
A fact is: “this ball will fall downwards when I drop it”
An opinion is: “The Iraq War can be described as Low Intensity”
I don’t understand why this has you guys all riled up…
Please, someone tell me that the grown adults here can tell the difference between stating an opinion and stating a fact.
“…You sure aren’t changing too many minds to your side.”
You don’t think you’re trying to teach ME, do you?
LOL…
It’s a discussion, guys, not a lesson. Geez!
(thanks for the edit, but I wish I saw the insults!)
May 11, 2006 - 10:26 AM on May 11th, 2006
58-They are BOTH opinions, Peejz, why aren’t you understanding that?
They are not both opinions. Yours is the opinion based on what you feel is the definition of major combat operations vs low intensity conflict. The fact is that we are involved in a peace keeping mode or low intensity conflict. At times it seems like it is high intensity, but by definition, it isn’t.