“Yours is the opinion, but Robert is speaking to the facts.”

They are BOTH opinions, Peejz, why aren’t you understanding that?

Opinion: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof

A fact is: “this ball will fall downwards when I drop it”
An opinion is: “The Iraq War can be described as Low Intensity”

I don’t understand why this has you guys all riled up…

Please, someone tell me that the grown adults here can tell the difference between stating an opinion and stating a fact.

“…You sure aren’t changing too many minds to your side.”

Is that what your problem is? You guys think I’m trying to teach you something???

You don’t think you’re trying to teach ME, do you?

LOL…

It’s a discussion, guys, not a lesson. Geez!

(thanks for the edit, but I wish I saw the insults!)

I am curious. Assuming the earth’s rotation reverses, and the democrats manage to actually win an election and gain control of Congress in November (it won’t happen, but it’s just a hypothetical), and let’s also, for the sake of this excercise, assume that San Fran Nan Pelosi and the racist John Conyers succeed in impeaching President Bush for actually trying to intercept communications from muslim terrorist to operatives in the United States (affectionately known, in wacko liberal circles as “domestic spying”), and also, for the sake of this argument, Dick Cheney is impeached for, oh, I don’t know, ..hm….. ok, I got it, he is impeached for authorizing the horrific torture of pointing at a would be terrorists ball sac (oh, the humanity!!)…. so, let’s review, the democrats now control congress, Hitler.. I mean Bush has been removed from office.. Halliburton… I mean Cheney is out of the picture (SF Lib will need a cum towel at this point, becuase I believe he just spewed in his pants)

what now? Lay it out for me. Immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq? UN “negotiations” with Ahmedinijad? 7 party talks with Kim Jong-Il? Repeal of Bush Tax cuts?

Gimme the skinny, I’m dying to hear it!

LOLh, is that what YOU call it? Mr. Arm Chair? When were YOU over there fighting to know exactly what to call it? Oh, wait:you weren’t. So, you’re only telling me what other people tell you, or what you read. Refresh my memory, that makes your opinion more valid than mine:how? :Weak.

Please. Nice opinion you got there:not really anything “factual”about it at all, Robert. Personal opinion does not equal fact.

Peejz (thank you) posted the definitions, and anyone with greater than a room temperature IQ can read them , compare them to what is happening, and make the proper call.

When you are caught between a rock and a hard place, after making another ridiculpous pronouncement, you twist like a contortionist trying to find a way out. You will never just own up and admit that you:

1. Are wrong.
2. Don’t know what you are talking about.
3. Shouldn’t have gone off half-cocked.

You know, I am glad you self-identify as a Liberal. You sure aren’t changing too many minds to your side.

edited for insults.

Is there such a thing anymore? And if so where are they having their information dissiminated? Sure as hell not on any of the major networks, even Fox radio news makes reference to things in as derogatory a manner as possible. An example would be calling the intercepting of international communications between suspected terrorists inside and outside of the US as “Domestic Spying.” Why is it that during the Cold war we eavesdropped on every suspected Soviet spy in this country and now we aren’t allowed to listen to INTERNATIONAL calls made to and from phone numbers we have VERY GOOD reason to believe are being used by Al Quaeda terrorists? It is an INTERNATIONAL INTERCEPT, not domestic spying.

As for reliable sources, I would probably opt for the soliders on the ground. The reenlistment rate is it’s highest in decades. There is a line for many National Guard members looking to return to Iraq. (not my comment, was from a National Guardsman who has been on a waiting list for two years to go, but his skill set isn’t in high enough demand to send him.)

Well then let me clarify my position for you:

“…(the Iraq War)…in the overall scale of things, it is low intensity.”

I disagree. Here’s why…

Of course there aren’t any WW2 sized battles; I’m not saying there are. All I am saying is that this War is to complex to just label it “Low Intensity”.

Note: I’m not AT ALL saying I know better than Robert on the military. He served, I never have – he wins. I just think that his opinion of Iraq being “Low Intensity” is just that, his opinion - and can be argued against.

And that is why I pointed out that it’s just his opinion and that it does not mean everyone accepts that, and those who don’t are wrong.

that’s all.

next.