A Close Call
By: Lisa On: May/14/06 - 35 Comments
Plane Carrying Kennedy Hit by Lightning
A plane carrying U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy from western Massachusetts to his home on the coast was struck by lightning Saturday and had to be diverted to New Haven, Conn., his spokeswoman said.
The eight-seat Cessna Citation 550 plane lost all electrical power, including communications, and the pilot had to fly the plane manually, according to spokeswoman Melissa Wagoner. No one was hurt.
That’s gotta be a first. A plane carrying a Kennedy loses power, and everyone inside lives to tell about it. Good to hear no one was hurt – - but I’m sayin’, if I were a Kennedy? I’m pretty sure I’d have a ‘no-fly’ policy!
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May 14, 2006 - 02:17 PM on May 14th, 2006
SAD:evil:
May 14, 2006 - 05:26 PM on May 14th, 2006
Of course no one ended up in the water. A Kennedy wasn’t behind the wheel.
May 14, 2006 - 06:08 PM on May 14th, 2006
Laura Bush once caused the death of someone — I don’t hear anyone harping on that everytime her names comes up…:shock:
May 14, 2006 - 06:14 PM on May 14th, 2006
Laura Bush’s didn’t walk away and go to bed afterward like someone else we know, AND leave someone to drown.
May 14, 2006 - 06:29 PM on May 14th, 2006
Yeah, because that makes all the difference in the world.
A death is a death, right?
Laura Bush was extremely negligent, and it caused a death. She ran a stop sign, going approximately 50 mph. She broke the law, and it killed a man. Period.
May 14, 2006 - 07:02 PM on May 14th, 2006
Jo, Sen Kennedy didn’t do anything wrong! Isn’t that right Alyssa? If a member of the Kennedy royalty wants to let a hooker drown, he has every right to, especially if he needed the time to sober up before calling the police to report the accident. Jo, the nerve of people like you thinking he isn’t above the law. See he obviously has the moral high ground over someone who admits she was wrong like the FIRST LADY, Laura. Isn’t that right Alyssa.:roll:
May 14, 2006 - 07:37 PM on May 14th, 2006
OMG, you really can’t be serious Alyssa:?:
May 14, 2006 - 08:24 PM on May 14th, 2006
John, please…re-read my post where I said I wasn’t defending Kennedy in any way. It sickens me what happened.
Peejz, I was being a bit snarky in my first comment. But yes, I’m being serious that she broke a law, because she did.
May 14, 2006 - 08:43 PM on May 14th, 2006
Actually, there were no charges filed against her.
“The police report indicates no charges were filed. That section of the report was left blank.“As far as we know, no charges were filed,” said Midland city attorney Keith Stretcher. “I don’t think it’s unusual that charges weren’t filed.”
The police report was released after an open records request was submitted to Midland officials in March. City officials had declined to release the records because the victims were under 18. “
May 14, 2006 - 09:02 PM on May 14th, 2006
I know no charges were filed, but unlike Stretcher, I do think that’s unusual.
Someone ran a red light once, striking my car, and I was in the hospital for three days. I didn’t die, and charge were filed against him. Why? Because it’s against the law to run a red light or a stop sign.
I want to make it very clear here that I am not vilifying Laura…just making a statement that I think it’s strange that no charges were filed.
May 15, 2006 - 12:39 AM on May 15th, 2006
A message from God? Plane Carrying Kennedy Hit by Lightning- Plus police disciplined in Pat Kennedy case
If anyone needed a wakeup call, it woulf be the Kennedy’s who have lived so far out of touvh from the people they claim to serve, thoughit is my opinion that they secertly (and sometimes not so secretly) hold them in elitist c…
May 15, 2006 - 06:23 AM on May 15th, 2006
Alyssa,
It says volumes about you that you take an incident when Laura NOBODY ran a stop sign to EQUATE it to US SENATOR EDWARD MOORE KENNEDY LEAVING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT CARING MORE ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS CAREER THAN A SUFFOCATING GIRL LEFT IN HIS SEMI-SUBMERGED OLDSMOBILE! You have no sense and no honor, Alyssa.
May 15, 2006 - 06:35 AM on May 15th, 2006
10- I think it wasn’t unusual because of the time that the accisent happened. It was 1963 in a small town. If it happened 20 years ago, a ticket and other charges would more than likely have been issued, but in 1963..it wasn’t that unheard of. But the point is..she took responsibility for her actions. She didn’t run and hide.
May 15, 2006 - 07:11 AM on May 15th, 2006
Oh uh loks like ted kennedy has incured the wrath of the all mighty he had better be careful he is getting a message to streighten out or else:cool:
May 15, 2006 - 11:17 AM on May 15th, 2006
To quote SF:
PCD, slow your roll! You didn’t read what I actually wrote, did you? You take my statement of thinking it strange that no charges were filed and equate that to my having no honor.
I would like to know how I equated the two. Please re-read my #8 post where I said I was being snarky. (Hint: that means sarcastic). Get a grip.
12–You make a good point that it was 20 years ago in a small town.
May 15, 2006 - 11:22 AM on May 15th, 2006
the point is… Democrats always point this out, as if to make some kind of accusation that Laura Bush…AS A FUCKING TEENAGER…was being protected from on high, on the extreme foreknowledge that she would one day meet and marry the future president of the United States….. this is typical of liberal cookoo land…
May 15, 2006 - 12:24 PM on May 15th, 2006
Just how did she “take responsibility for her actions”
She runs a stop sign and kills a man, and then…what?
Did she do community service? Did she pay any fines? Was her license revoked?
So what if this was 20 years ago in a small town??? Chapaquidick was also over 20 years ago in a small town and some of you wackos are STILL talking about like it was yesterday…
May 15, 2006 - 01:08 PM on May 15th, 2006
15–I have many liberal friends, and none of them think what you are saying. They don’t think she was “protected,” they don’t think it has anything to do with who she was or who she someday might be. While you may know liberals who think so, I do not. And I love your posts, but I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you don’t have any liberal friends, since you’re so quick to label them all with “ways they think.” If I’m wrong about my assumption, I apologize. Just the way it seems.
May 15, 2006 - 01:16 PM on May 15th, 2006
SF, you know what the difference is here… she was a TEENAGER… it was found to be an accident.
Ted was an overpriveledged, drunken slob, protected on high by his “royal family” of rapists, bootleggers, thugs, adulterers and theives.
May 15, 2006 - 01:16 PM on May 15th, 2006
16- It was 43 years ago. Had you followed what Alyssa and I were saying, you would have caught that. She took responsibility for her actions by stopping as soon as it happened. She spoke to the police and gave a full statement. The police did not charge her with a crime and by their words, they say in hindsight they are not surprised.
Yes we still talk about Teddy because he drove drunk, crashed his car into the water, saved himself and did not seek help for her until morning. He was driving on a suspended licence, though the police supressed that.
He should have been thrown out of the senate for his actions!
May 15, 2006 - 01:27 PM on May 15th, 2006
The Laura Bush issue has been discussed thoroughly in this forum before.
NO comparison to what ChapaTeddy did.
May 15, 2006 - 01:58 PM on May 15th, 2006
14, YOU brought the damn thing up. By having NOTHING else in your post, you are equating the two.
If you have to think about this, and why you have no honor, then you have suspect morals, too.
May 15, 2006 - 02:03 PM on May 15th, 2006
Also, alyssa, a Korean woman ran a red light in Orange County, CA, a few years ago. A friend of mine and his wife were killed instantly in the collision. The wife’s mother was ejected from the car and watched in horror as the car burned. Only minor charges were filed and the Korean woman did not serve any jail time, but she had to listen to the victim’s statement written and read by a Korean war vet friend of mine who also is a STAUNCH DEMOCRAT. The statement was more punishment than the sentence.
Oh, my friend, who is a New Jersey/New York Democrat has absolutely no use for Ted Kennedy.
May 15, 2006 - 02:07 PM on May 15th, 2006
One side note to this story. The New Haven airport has been subject to legal assault by rich, Democrat neighbors who want the airport shut down and have fought allowing jets of any size land there since 1985. Teddy is lucky he didn’t have to go to Sikorsky in Stratford or a New York Metro airport to land.
Would the CT Liberal Democrats of New Haven realize that if they had their way, they may have help kill one of their Icons? I doubt it. Their self-absorbed, selfish selves wouldn’t allow that thought to penetrate their NIMBY mentality.
Also, there’ll be no windmill farms in CT if the Libs can help it, so help them Walter Cronkite and Ted Kennedy.
May 15, 2006 - 02:37 PM on May 15th, 2006
of course, conservation and environmentalism are just things they talk about to make themselves feel like GOOD PEOPLE…they certainly don’t practice it.. you won’t see Laurie David, or John Kohn, flying commercially!! Heaven forbid!!! You won’t see any windfarms near their ESTATES.
Fucking hypocrites.
May 15, 2006 - 02:46 PM on May 15th, 2006
No, there really isn’t much comparison between the two incidents, except of course:
*A fatal car accident
*Both were driving the car at fault
*Both got off with a slap on the wrist (one less than the other…)
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Alyssa, you are 100% right, there are no liberals I’m aware of that are/were trying to make this into a big political deal…I just don’t think most Liberals feel as persecuted and paranoid as some conservatives feel on the Kennedy issue, which is why they always seem to fall for wacky conspiracy theories about that family and other liberals in general.
PCD: “If you have to think about this, and why you have no honor, then you have suspect morals, too.”
What do you know about honor and morals??? Judging by how you constantly try to verbally bully posters who DARE to have an opposing opinion from yours…..weak.
May 15, 2006 - 04:43 PM on May 15th, 2006
“Chapaquidick was also over 20 years ago in a small town and some of you wackos are STILL talking about like it was yesterday:” Im for holding Ted accountable for his actions,,,,you?
May 15, 2006 - 05:14 PM on May 15th, 2006
“Im for holding Ted accountable for his actions,,,,you?”
Ummm…he was.
Kennedy entered a plea of guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury. He received a sentence of two months in jail, which was suspended.
An Edgartown grand jury later reopened the investigation but did not return an indictment. Kennedy did offer a personal apology to Mrs. Kopechne for his role in her daughter’s death and she accepted that apology.
Kennedy patriarch and former Ambassador to the Court of Saint James, Joseph, paid Mrs. Kopechne an out-of-court, unspecified settlement for her pain and suffering.
May 15, 2006 - 05:17 PM on May 15th, 2006
This wouldn’t be the first time TK has had a rough plane ride…
“In 1964, Kennedy was in a plane crash in which the pilot and one of Kennedy’s aides were killed. He was pulled from the wreckage by fellow senator Birch E. Bayh II (D-Ind.) and spent weeks in a hospital recovering from a severe back injury, a punctured lung, broken ribs, and internal bleeding.”
May 15, 2006 - 05:46 PM on May 15th, 2006
Kennedy patriarch and former Ambassador to the Court of Saint James, Joseph, paid Mrs. Kopechne an out-of-court, unspecified settlement for her pain and suffering. Let’s see, he was bedridden after suffering a stroke in 61′. He could only communicate by grunting and was not in charge of his estate anymore..yep..that sounds about par for the Kennedy course of things! Pay C.O.D. Cash Off Dad!
More info here on Chappaquiddick
My favorite quote from Teddy:
“Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen
and another for the high and mighty?”
- Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973 –
- In his statement to police, Ted Kennedy claimed that after escaping from his submerged automobile, he “repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car.”
- At the inquest, the Senator elaborated on his story. “I was fully aware that I was doing everything that I possibly could to get the girl out of the car. And that my head was throbbing and my neck was aching and I was breathless, and at the time, hopelessly exhausted.” When he abandoned his rescue attempt, he let himself float to shore. “And I sort of crawled and staggered up some place and was very exhausted and spent on the grass.” He said he rested there on the banking for 15 to 20 minutes.
Beginning with his first statement to police ( view statement ) Kennedy has always maintained that he delayed reporting the accident to authorities because he was “confused and in shock” after the accident. The Senator’s statements regarding his rescue attempts suggest that in fact he was quite aware that Miss Kopechne’s life was in peril and that immediate action was in order.
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– Kennedy testified that after he regained his breath, “I started walking, trotting, jogging, stumbling as fast as I possibly could. It was extremely dark,” he said, and “I never saw a cottage with a light on.” Kennedy said he walked back to the Lawrence Cottage in “approximately 15 minutes.”
- Kennedy’s claims were contradicted by several residents of Dike Road:
- Sylvia Malm was spending the summer in the “Dike House” with her family. The house was only 150 yards from the scene of the accident ( see photo below ). Her daughter had been reading under an open window facing the bridge until about 11:45 PM, but did not recall hearing anything unusual.
- When the family went to bed, Mrs. Malm had left a light burning all night at the back door of the house. The light was visible from Dike Bridge. Sometime after midnight, Mrs. Malm heard a car “going faster than usual” on Dike Road, but nothing else.
- The Reverend and Mrs. David Smith lived in the house across the street. They were certain that they had left a light on in one of the bedrooms that was also visible from the road.
May 15, 2006 - 11:16 PM on May 15th, 2006
PCD, are you dense? I can’t believe I have to explain this to you.
What part of “I was being sarcastic” do you not understand?
Get a clue about the definition of that word, and stop thinking you have any idea of what my morals are when you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that after a long day at work.
May 16, 2006 - 06:42 AM on May 16th, 2006
SF, you are just the typical self righteous liberal who is all words and no action. Who feels threatened by opposition when not caved in to by that opposition. All you have is words. Words are your weapon. When you lose the war, or people use liberal tactics against you, you run crying to the authorities. You have multiple times here, right Peejz.
Alyssa, if you are laughing at yourself as the joke, fine. There is sarcasm and there is cluelessness. You fall into the latter here.
May 16, 2006 - 11:03 AM on May 16th, 2006
31–Please…talk about cluelessness…I explained I wasn’t being serious and you keep whining that I was. Everyone else understands it, so I’m sure you eventually will.
May 16, 2006 - 12:00 PM on May 16th, 2006
“Everyone else understands it, so I’m sure you eventually will.”
I seriously doubt it, Alyssa. He seems to be stuck on “rude & ignorant”.
May 16, 2006 - 12:09 PM on May 16th, 2006
33–For some reason when I read that, I immediately thought of M-m-m-m-m-max Head-ad-ad-ad-ad-ro-ro-room.