Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Liar
A big fat liar that may be forced to relinquish $85 million, if Sgt. Peter Damon wins the lawsuit he brought against Moore.
A double-amputee Iraq-war vet is suing Michael Moore for $85 million, claiming the portly peacenik recycled an old interview and used it out of context to make him appear anti-war in “Fahrenheit 9/11.”
Sgt. Peter Damon, 33, who strongly supports America’s invasion of Iraq, said he never agreed to be in the 2004 movie, which trashes President Bush.
In the 2003 interview, which he did at Walter Reed Army Hospital for NBC News, he discussed only a new painkiller the military was using on wounded vets.
“They took the clip because it was a gut-wrenching scene,” Damon said yesterday. “They sandwiched it in. [Moore] was using me as ammunition.”
Damon seems to “voice complaint about the war effort” in the movie, according to the lawsuit.
But what the father of two from Middleborough, Mass., was really talking about was the “excruciating” pain he felt after he lost his arms when a Black Hawk helicopter exploded in front of him.
Damon wasn’t expressing any opinion about the war, the suit charges, but rather extolling the drug.
“I just want everybody to know what kind of a guy Michael Moore is, and what kind of film this is,” said Damon. He has appeared in two films attacking “Fahrenheit” -”Michael Moore Hates America” and “Fahrenhype 9/11.”
In “Fahrenheit 9/11,” the bandaged National Guardsman is shown laying on a gurney complaining that he feels like he’s “being crushed in a vise. But they [the drugs] do a lot to help it and they take a lot of the edge off it.”
His image appears seconds after Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) says, “You know, they say they’re not leaving any veterans behind, but they’re leaving all kinds of veterans behind.”
Damon – the dad of a 8-year-old girl and 4-year-old boy – doesn’t come close to feeling that way.
“He couldn’t have picked the worst guy to say that about,” he told The Post.
“I’m the most fortunate disabled guy. I’ve even had a house built for me [by a nonprofit group, Home for Our Troops].”
Particularly outrageous to Damon is the fact that Moore never interviewed him or asked his permission to use the old clip.
“I was complaining about the pain I would’ve been having [if it weren't for the painkiller],” he said.
NBC is named in the suit – which was filed in Suffolk County, Mass., on Friday – along with Harvey and Robert Weinstein, Miramax Corp., Lions Gate Films and other production companies involved with the picture.
Newsman Brian Williams ends the NBC clip by adding, “These men, with catastrophic wounds are . . . completely behind the war effort,” according to the lawsuit.
That part, which wasn’t shown in the Moore movie, is a far more accurate depiction of Damon’s feelings, he said.
Lawyer Dennis Lynch said he took the case last year and they held off filing the lawsuit in a bid to settle the matter.
“We attempted to resolve the situation amicably with Mr. Moore [for a year] but he refused,” he said.
Damon is asking for up to $75 million because of “loss of reputation, emotional distress, embarrassment, and personal humiliation.”
In addition, his wife is suing for another $10 million because of the “mental distress and anguish suffered by her spouse.”
Spokeswomen for NBC and Harvey and Robert Weinstein would not comment because they haven’t seen the suit. Lions Gate doesn’t comment on pending litigation, a rep said.
Michael Moore and Miramax reps didn’t return calls for comment.
Moore is a despicable!
May 31, 2006 - 11:15 AM on May 31st, 2006
This lawsuit is “dispicable”!
May 31, 2006 - 11:16 AM on May 31st, 2006
May 31, 2006 - 11:19 AM on May 31st, 2006
Michael Moore May Open Big Fat Wallet
Michael Moore is getting sued by Sgt. Peter Damon for the dishonest use (without permission) of a video shot of him at Walter Reed. From the New York Post (h/t: Hot Air):A double-amputee Iraq-war vet is suing Michael Moore for
May 31, 2006 - 11:31 AM on May 31st, 2006
Dispicable?? Why on earth would you say that? Michael Moore’s films are pure fiction. He superimposes images and cuts and pastes until things are absolutely fictitious. That’s okay of course BUT then he claims them as facts.
I’m glad this man is suing. In this country that’s called libel.
My only regret is that he didn’t get twice that much.
May 31, 2006 - 11:38 AM on May 31st, 2006
Exactly,
Someone needed to teach that fat, lying, traiterous blowhard a lesson.
Fuck him and his fat, stupid mouth and that ridiculous accent of his…
what’s he gonna lose, some donuts?
Fat fuck
May 31, 2006 - 11:46 AM on May 31st, 2006
SF, once again, you dissapoint me as a human. Only a nasty dope smoking, troop spitting, America-hating,,,, IT, would side with Moore on this.
May 31, 2006 - 12:18 PM on May 31st, 2006
hey John, he “supports the troops” don’t you know???
SF, exactly WHAT does that support consist of, besides empty rhetoric?
May 31, 2006 - 12:22 PM on May 31st, 2006
Good! bring it on! If I was on the jury, I’d add an extra $50M for punitive damages.
Teach Moore a lesson: Manipulating, misusing, mischaracterizing, lying, propagandizing, undermining the USA, treeason, all of those things will not be rewarded.
Moore is a disgusting, disgraceful pos.
May 31, 2006 - 12:26 PM on May 31st, 2006
You just knew that SF Liberal would come out on the opposite side of this issue. Purposeful contrarian.
May 31, 2006 - 01:22 PM on May 31st, 2006
If Michael Moore made movies that were critical of liberals, you guys would be praising him. Face it, it’s not about the truth with people rabidly aligned with the far sides of the spectrum, it’s about hearing what they want to hear.
As for this lawsuit, let’s wait until the fact of this specific case come out.
..Chuck..
May 31, 2006 - 01:30 PM on May 31st, 2006
You are dead wrong Chuck. If Michael Moore made as despicable a movie about conservatives it would still be WRONG. Portraying events and people in a dishonest way is mean spirited. The fact that he exploited 9/11 in the way he did just verifies his sleaze.
Mike’s right. He’s a fat, treasonous, f k.
The facts will speak for themselves and I hope this man is vindicated big time.
May 31, 2006 - 02:02 PM on May 31st, 2006
I’m cursious, why did he wait so long to bring the lawsuit? If someone misused my words and made it into a movie, I’d bring a lawsuit the moment I found out about it.
May 31, 2006 - 02:05 PM on May 31st, 2006
sp–curious.
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May 31, 2006 - 04:13 PM on May 31st, 2006
No BonBon, it is you who are wrong about a great many things… I don’t see you making noise about the unsubstantiated yellow cake uranium story that was used as justification for war. All we heard was “WMD this” and “WMD that”, and then when none were found it shifted to constant blathering about “liberating the poor Iraqi people” while sending no-bid contracts out the back door to Cheney’s cronies at Halliburton. Now we hear some vague unsubstantiated notion about “the WMDs were moved before the war”, thus implying that we spend untold hundreds of billions of my grandchildren’s money for nothing.
Taken as individual pieces, none of those things were egregious. No-bid contracts happen all of the time. Bad intelligence happens all of the time. Things have gotten out of control though and someone has to draw a line and point out that the emperor has no clothes. That’s what Michael Moore tried to do for better or for worse.
Big hint: If someone occupied the US, you’d see allies and civilians alike from all over the Christian world finding a way to get over here and fight alongside the US insurgency. You’re seeing the same thing happen in Iraq, but it’s the Muslims coming to the aid of another Muslim nation (fully acknowledging that Saddam wasn’t exactly a Muslim). We’re creating terrorists, not stopping them. US Soldiers are fighting non Iraqis more than they’re fighting Iraqis.
See this? That is the enemy. Not Iraq or any individual country. They want to kill us and turn the world into their Caliphate. George Bush is doing the best he knows how to do. However, this is still America and we have a right, nay DUTY to criticise when things seem like they’re veering in the wrong direction. If the criticism is unwarranted, history will bear out the president.
I personally believe that the President doesn’t get it. The enemy is not Iraq or any one nation. This is no longer like WWII where nations declared war on each other. This is a war of ideology. As a Christian nation we’re willing to “live and let live until you hurt us our any of our allies, in which case we’ll blow your ass up”. Muslim extremists hate us because we support and defend Israel. They are able to take advantage of the poor state of affairs in middle eastern countries to recruit new terrorists. The war we need to fight is the one no one has the courage to fight because it is very messy and is politically unpalatable.
..Chuck..
May 31, 2006 - 04:15 PM on May 31st, 2006
11- Alyssa- maybe you missed this in the article: Lawyer Dennis Lynch said he took the case last year and they held off filing the lawsuit in a bid to settle the matter.
“We attempted to resolve the situation amicably with Mr. Moore [for a year] but he refused,”he said.
I had heard of this quite awhile ago!
May 31, 2006 - 04:19 PM on May 31st, 2006
9- No Chuck I would not. Michael Moore caters to the most ignorant members of our society..I don’t even align him with the Democrats..they were smart enough to see through his bullshit! (maybe too late, but they saw through it nonetheless!)
May 31, 2006 - 04:29 PM on May 31st, 2006
13- Chuck it isn’t Bon Bon’s problem that you didn’t pay attention to what was being said for at least a full year before the invasion of Iraq in 03′. There were many reason cited, but the number one reason was because Saddam Hussain vioplated resolution 1441, 19 times. It was up to Saddam to prove he was in compliance. He screwed around. We invaded..
Your attempt to justify Moores actions is laughable Chuck. It was really Dick Clark’s and the State of Michigan’s fault some welfare mom had to work 30 minutes from home at a restaurant with his name on it..therefore she wasn’t home to stop her 5 year old from taking her drug dealer brothers gun to school and blowing his classmates brains all over the playground! (Bowling for Columbine) Or how about how he went after an Altzeimers ridden Charlton Heston..that really was brilliant wasn’t it Chuck?
Take a look at that fat bastards stock portfolio and get back to me on how Moore isn’t a BIG FAT LYING HYPOCRITE!
May 31, 2006 - 05:29 PM on May 31st, 2006
“You’re seeing the same thing happen in Iraq, but it’s the Muslims coming to the aid of another Muslim nation (fully acknowledging that Saddam wasn’t exactly a Muslim). We’re creating terrorists, not stopping them. US Soldiers are fighting non Iraqis more than they’re fighting Iraqis.”
Chuck you sound like you put on your Turban and tune in Al Jizzeera daily. What a load of crap…
May 31, 2006 - 05:31 PM on May 31st, 2006
Peejz, I’m fully aware of how Saddam violated resolution 1411, 19 times. It mixes the issue though. Are we going after the 9/11 terrorists or enforcing a UN resolution? The core issue is how the Bush administration tried to tie the two together. Some of us legitimately believe that they are two separate issues. You’d be amazed at how many “bleeding heart liberals” suddenly agree that invading Afghanistan was a killer idea (no pun intended). It’s not the war that most Americans have a problem, it’s the shady justification.
As for Michael Moore, I don’t justify his actions one iota. If you read what I said more carefully you won’t find one bit of justification. All I said was that he tried to do something for better or for worse. You’re mixing up my defense of free speech rights with some (incorrectly) perceived nod to his work.
..Chuck..
May 31, 2006 - 05:35 PM on May 31st, 2006
Robert, if a country occupied the United States of America, millions of people from around the world would come to our aid either as soldiers in standing armies or as civilians aiding the US insurgency. Do you disagree?
..Chuck..
May 31, 2006 - 05:55 PM on May 31st, 2006
18- Chuck violating the resolution is a part of the reason we invaded (actually the main reason)..the yellow cake is another part of the equation…and yes it is all tied to the invasion. I agree with you that Moore tried to do something..he tried to manipulate people with his lies!
May 31, 2006 - 06:10 PM on May 31st, 2006
Iraq War Vet Suing Michael Moore
I hope the judge makes Moore cough up mucho dinero for Sgt. Damon and his family. Imagine trying to recuperate from a traumatic amputation of both arms after losing a comrade only to have Michael Moore put you on the big screen as an anti-war soldier…
May 31, 2006 - 06:15 PM on May 31st, 2006
20- Peejz, the country was behind fighting the 9/11 terrorists, not UN resolution violations. If 9/11 hadn’t happened, I’m confident that Bush would never have had a mandate to invade Iraq. Bush had to find a way to tie the two together. I believe he stretched the truth in order to tie them together.
..Chuck..
May 31, 2006 - 08:38 PM on May 31st, 2006
21. Chuck,,, you got a point,,, the UN is worthless. We should have fuked Saddam up, bedamn what the rest of the world thinks. But, WMD’s were found in IRAQ. Mabe not in the amounts that please you, charles, but they were found. I guess Syria and the Commonwelth Independent States (Former USSR), missed a few during movement.
May 31, 2006 - 08:39 PM on May 31st, 2006
sorry for the awful spelling. maybe……not mabe. Is the spell check malfunctioning for everyone or just Macintosh?
May 31, 2006 - 08:47 PM on May 31st, 2006
John- spell check isn’t working, hence all my misspelled words in the posts! Yikes…Lisa is getting married in a few weeks so I didn’t really want to bug her about it. So if you see my errors, oh well!:razz::wink:
May 31, 2006 - 09:16 PM on May 31st, 2006
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May 31, 2006 - 09:25 PM on May 31st, 2006
I have a small question for those who continue to claim that Iraq had “NO” WMDs. Would any of you know a WMD if you fell over it? Would the material to build 100,000 radiological bombs be considered a WMD? 50,000 lbs of uranium was so enriched it had to be removed from the country to a more secure location.
Would Sarin (the nerve gas used in the attack on the Tokyo subway) artillery shells be considered WMDs? I ask because at least one IED was made using a Sarin artillery shell. It just didn’t go off. It partially detonated while being disarmed and sent two US soldiers to the hospital.
If Saddam had no WMDs, why did US soldiers find thousands of new chemical suits and over 100,000 relatively new doses of Atropine, the treatment for nerve agents? Why does a former Iraqi General claim that plane loads of chemical weapons were transported to Syria disguised as humanitarian aid?
On the topic of an invasion of this country, I’ll just relate a comment from one of our founding fathers. A quote that flies directly in the face of Moore’s “Bowling for Columbine” “Invasions may be made too formidable to be resisted by any land or naval force which would comport either with the principles of our Government, or the circumstances of the United States to maintain. In such cases recourse must be made to the great body of the people, and in a manner to produce the best effect. It is of the highest importance therefore, that they be so organized and trained as to be prepared for any emergency.”
James Monroe’s first inaugural address
May 31, 2006 - 09:30 PM on May 31st, 2006
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May 31, 2006 - 10:10 PM on May 31st, 2006
Chuck, if Saddam took over the country I lived in and started murdering people (while his sons ran amuck, raping any woman they wanted to), I would welcome the help of the greatest nation in the history of the earth, the greatest beacon of freedom in history, the nation that has helped more, freed more people than any nation in history.
We don’t want to take over that shithole, occupy it forever. We only want to leave it better than we found it, stable, and no longer a threat.
Now what the hell is wrong with any of that?
May 31, 2006 - 10:30 PM on May 31st, 2006
14–Peejz, I did miss that. Thanks.
June 1, 2006 - 12:16 AM on June 1st, 2006
25 – FrmrArtyOffcr I want to believe you, I really do. Do you have any objective proof you can point to? If so, let’s compile it all in one place and start pointing people at it. You have my word that I’ll put effort into helping to make this information be more widely known.
..Chuck..
June 1, 2006 - 06:41 AM on June 1st, 2006
Chuck, How can liberals even say with a straight face that Saddam didn’t have WMD when he obliterated dozens of villages with them? His total death count stands at 1.3 million people dead. There are many places on the web which reports these things; too many to go back to. Some advice for you would be to stay away from the main stream media…..look for journalists embeded over there who have blogs, check out organizations whose scholars research the issues and read their reports, etc. If you do the research you will find the truth.
June 1, 2006 - 06:53 AM on June 1st, 2006
21. Chuck. I don’t know about the rest of the country but where I live in the Washington DC region they did NOT want to fight terrorists, ever. About a week after 9/11 the signs for NO WAR and MAKE LOVE NOT WAR went up throughout neighborhoods. For the first time in my life I was actually offended by some of my fellow americans.
After all, I had been watching to see what action our government would take since the first attack on the world trade center.
June 1, 2006 - 07:53 AM on June 1st, 2006
He is not the only one who moore cheated i read that one of the youths that appeared in his BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE feels cheated as well:mad:
June 1, 2006 - 09:21 AM on June 1st, 2006
“How can liberals even say with a straight face that Saddam didn’t have WMD when he obliterated dozens of villages with them?”
BonBon…WHO GAVE SADDAM THOSE W’sMD? Look it up.
“His total death count stands at 1.3 million people dead.”
Oh, give me a break. First it was 10,000 then 100,000 then 500,000 and now 1.3 million???
“…For the first time in my life I was actually offended by some of my fellow americans.”
Get used to it. I’ve been offended by my fellow Americans since 2000.
June 1, 2006 - 09:24 AM on June 1st, 2006
“…i read that one of the youths that appeared in his BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE feels cheated as well”
Was that the one kid who got Wal-Mart to stop selling guns and ammunition when he tried to return the bullets in his body to the store?
That was awesome…
June 1, 2006 - 09:50 AM on June 1st, 2006
I never watched “Bowling”, so I can’t offer any criticism of it except that I did see the excerpts where Moore took footage from different Charlketon Heston speeches and edited them into one sequence, making Heston appear to say something different than he actually did.
That was enough for me. Evil, degenerate, lying, propaganda. The lowest of the low. I don’t need to see Columbine; just considering the source is understanding enough.
Btw in my opinion, “Gun Control” means hitting your target. The anti-2nd Amendment crowd has never come up with one argument that holds water.
June 1, 2006 - 09:57 AM on June 1st, 2006
Was that the one kid who got Wal-Mart to stop selling guns and ammunition when he tried to return the bullets in his body to the store?
That was awesome:
I wonder where his bodyguards buy their bullets
June 1, 2006 - 10:28 AM on June 1st, 2006
“I wonder where his bodyguards buy their bullets”
Not at Wal-Mart anywmore, that’s for damn sure.
And Robert, I recommend that you rent “Bowling for” and give it a good watch over – at least you’d have a valid opinion on the movie then.
Hell, I watch Fox News once in a long while and it’s not like I buy that crap. You won’t grow liberal horns on your head if watch it once, is all I’m saying.
June 1, 2006 - 10:31 AM on June 1st, 2006
Robert- I watched it with my bil, a staunch democrat…we laughed our a$$@s off! If was the most ridiculous movie but god it was funny!
June 1, 2006 - 10:46 AM on June 1st, 2006
Oh, give me a break. First it was 10,000 then 100,000 then 500,000 and now 1.3 million???
Yes, that’s right SF. They have never stopped looking. Since we have been there they have uncovered 267 mass graves and approx. 1.3 million dead people. The good news is that because of the hard work of forensic scientists alot of families are claiming the bodies of their loved ones and giving them proper burials.
And yes, I am well aware of who put Saddam in power. Was it wrong? I don’t know. It would seem so now in hindsight. But I would argue that the U.S. historically has tried to do the right thing only to have it be the wrong thing. We simply are not able to see in the future.
At least Rumsfield knows who he’s dealing with?
June 1, 2006 - 11:07 AM on June 1st, 2006
“But I would argue that the U.S. historically has tried to do the right thing only to have it be the wrong thing. We simply are not able to see in the future.”
I agree. And this is one of many reasons why the Iraq invasion and occupation was and still is a “bad idea”, IMHO.
June 1, 2006 - 11:28 AM on June 1st, 2006
That’s where we part company. Actually, I meant to say the U.S. “sometimes” misses because I don’t think we have ALWAYS done the wrong thing. As for Iraq, it’s always been my position that we should never have left the Gulf in 1991 without taking him out but there again it was hindsight. Why Bush senior didn’t do it I’ll never know although I do understand the cowardice of Clinton now.
We have spent billions of dollars on Iraq being duped by this dictator. It was time to end. HE chose to ignore the U.N. resolutions, not us and I totally believe we did the right thing. Yes, he had WMD, and absolutely yes he had ties to terrorists. I will never believe different.
And further, with all the middle eastern populations dancing in the street at our 9/11 I would also assert that it was time the U.S. took a strong stand in it’s defense.
June 1, 2006 - 12:04 PM on June 1st, 2006
If you are so honest and open minded, SF, refute this: The Truth About Bowling For Columbine
June 1, 2006 - 12:29 PM on June 1st, 2006
“Yes, he had WMD, and absolutely yes he had ties to terrorists. I will never believe different.”
That’s pretty bold to say that you will never change your position.
Most people learn and grow when presented with new information that may change previously held positions…but not BonBon!
That is arrogance of the highest order.
Keep those blinders on!
June 1, 2006 - 12:36 PM on June 1st, 2006
Well SF I will be the first to admit when I’m wrong but in this case no way. I’m not. I’ve been presented with lots of evidence. The case has been made and I’m convinced. Saddam with his weapons and his murderous regime are better off GONE.
Whose blinders are on?
June 1, 2006 - 01:05 PM on June 1st, 2006
BonBon, SF has the Clinton issue Rose (Law Firm) Colored glasses welded firmly to his head.
June 1, 2006 - 01:14 PM on June 1st, 2006
#36: I don’t need to watch “Bowling’, it would be a waste of time. Just seeing the excerpts of the doctored Heston speeches, which constituted fraud by Moore, tells me what I need to know about the pos.
I did watch F911, and a similar genre of fraud was perpetrated throughout that pos also.
Moore and his propamentaries really do provide a litmus test opportunity. If you run into someone and they believe’s Moore’s lies, you know what you are dealing with.
June 1, 2006 - 01:23 PM on June 1st, 2006
PCD…..agreed. They do seem to be firmly welded to his head. What a shame
Robert. I actually did know a person that also happened to be a liberal and she was ecstatic over F911. The whole bit of being part of a cultural revolution, Bush bashing, blah,blah, blah. She’s Jewish and oh my did she sing a different tune as soon as it came out he was anti semantic.
June 1, 2006 - 01:43 PM on June 1st, 2006
46, Uh, BonBon, you mean anti-semitic, not semantic.
June 1, 2006 - 01:47 PM on June 1st, 2006
Yeah, uh sorry. I don’t always check my spelling. Worse, I am a bit dsylexic at times. Sorry.
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June 1, 2006 - 02:04 PM on June 1st, 2006
“Saddam with his weapons and his murderous regime are better off GONE.”
But..there..were..no..weapons.
“I don’t need to watch “Bowling’, it would be a waste of time.”
Well then you really can’t offer a valid opinion on the film!! Reading what someone else wrote just doesn’t quite cut it…personally, I like to see for myself.
“…and oh my did she sing a different tune as soon as it came out he was anti semantic.”
Oh my god, the baseless smears never stop, do they?
June 1, 2006 - 02:08 PM on June 1st, 2006
I knew what she meant…SF not a spelling Nazi.
June 1, 2006 - 02:13 PM on June 1st, 2006
49. Yup, the whole time she was blabbing about how wonderful this Michael Moore film would be to “show the truth about Bush” I just kept quiet. Being outnumbered I often stay silent. It helps keep the peace. A couple months later she was crying about how foolish she had been to believe his lies.
Yup, the baseless smears never seem to stop. I agree.
June 1, 2006 - 03:53 PM on June 1st, 2006
Moore is not anti-semitic:
EW: A film executive once told me that you had a reputation for being anti-Semitic — it had to do with ”Roger & Me” and your supposed refusal to allow the film to be shown in Israel. Do you know what I’m talking about?
MOORE: [Long pause] Right. Okay, I’m glad you asked that. Here’s what happened. In ”Roger & Me,” [''Newlywed Game'' host] Bob Eubanks tells a joke. He says, Why don’t Jewish women get AIDS? And I don’t want this reprinted, so I won’t say it, but it’s an anti-Semitic, antigay, antiwoman joke. So I’m out in L.A. and Rob Friedman, who was then the head of [Warner Bros. advertising and publicity], says, ”You’re not going to believe what’s going on. The Anti-Defamation League and Bob Eubanks are blasting Michael Moore for putting anti-Semitism in the film.” [Long pause] A week later, Jewish weeklies across the country all run the story that the ADL sent out saying that Michael Moore put anti-Semitism in the film.
Now, I have a Jewish friend who says that his grandpa has two columns: good for Jews and bad for Jews. [Laughs] And once that appeared, it stuck in a lot of people’s minds: ”Roger & Me” — bad for Jews. Plus at the end of the film one of the tourism ladies in Flint says, I’m going to move to Israel and maybe I’ll become the ministress of tourism. And then as a joke it cuts to the first intifada and I put up [the subtitle] ”One month after Maxine arrived” — which I thought was funny, to go from war zone to war zone. So those two things got this weird vibe going, and then the film was invited to the Jerusalem Film Festival. [Sighs] I had two requests — that the film not be shown [if] people would be prohibited from seeing it because of curfews and that the film have Arabic subtitles. [The festival agreed to neither] so I said, ”I am so sorry, I want to come, but I can’t. How can I if people were not allowed in because of who they were?”
EW: But why does this still have currency 13 years later?
MOORE: It’s as simple as my not toeing the standard line on Israel. I would stand up for anybody who is going to be persecuted. And that position has no credibility if I won’t do it for Palestinians [as well as Jews].
June 1, 2006 - 04:38 PM on June 1st, 2006
This lawsuit is just a newsmaking joke, and I’m 99.99% sure that it won’t go anywhere.
mark my words.
Look for more of these distractions in the coming weeks and months; things that whip up the conservative base and force them to defend an unpopular Bush.
Also, look for the GOP Fear Mongering to start about Gays before the coming election…
June 1, 2006 - 05:21 PM on June 1st, 2006
If it goes forward, good. If the guy wins and Moore is left broke, so much the better.
June 1, 2006 - 05:41 PM on June 1st, 2006
How about: neither one.
This guy is taking on movie studios in addition to M.Moore in this particular suit.
It’s just WAY to much to take on…
watch.
June 1, 2006 - 05:45 PM on June 1st, 2006
“Is the spell check malfunctioning for everyone or just Macintosh?”
The spell check here hasn’t worked for me in over a month.
June 1, 2006 - 10:48 PM on June 1st, 2006
Okay Chuck Here you go
“FOXNEWS.COM HOME
Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
Monday, May 17, 2004
A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday.
Bush administration officials told Fox News that mustard gas (search) was also recently discovered.
Two people were treated for “minor exposure” after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported. Soldiers transporting the shell for inspection suffered symptoms consistent with low-level chemical exposure, which is what led to the discovery, a U.S. official told Fox News.
“The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found,” Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt (search), the chief military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters in Baghdad. “The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy.”
The round detonated before it would be rendered inoperable, Kimmitt said, which caused a “very small dispersal of agent”
Does that help? Or how about this?
UNITED NATIONS (AP) ” The United States didn’t have authorization from the U.N. nuclear watchdog when it secretly shipped from Iraq uranium and highly radioactive material that could be used in so-called “dirty bombs,” U.N. officials said Wednesday.
The nearly 2 tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1,000 highly radioactive items transferred from Iraq to the United States last month had been placed under seal by the International Atomic Energy Agency at the sprawling Tuwaitha nuclear complex, 12 miles south of Baghdad, the officials said.
Do I need to prove my point any further that those idiots who claim that Iraq had no WMDs or the means to produce them are full of excrement?
June 1, 2006 - 11:00 PM on June 1st, 2006
For those without the artillery background let me explain that the shell from a 155 mm howitzer weighs approximately 100 lbs and a chemical round would be at least 50% chemicals. Even 30 lbs of Sarin would reek havoc if released in the close confines of a subway ventilation system. With illegal aliens hiking across the US/ Mexico border carrying 50 – 80 lbs of drugs, I doubt that a sealed plastic container of Sarin would slow them down much. With the number of OTMs being picked up and let loose under the Catch and release program, exactly how hard would it have been for the contents of a few of those shells to end up in this country in the hands of terrorists?
June 1, 2006 - 11:15 PM on June 1st, 2006
BTW I don’t know which WalMart you shop at SanFran, but the ones I go to have rifle, shotgun and pistol ammo for sale. The don’t sell handguns anymore, but they do sell rifles and shotguns. As for my personally being shot, I’d much rather be shot with a handgun versus a rifle or shotgun. The mortality rate from a handgun round is somewhere in the vicinity of 15% of that from a rifle or shotgun round, especially a shotgun at close range.
BTW one the Columbine subject, I really doubt that MM pointed out that it has been illegal in this country for anyone under 18 to purchase a rifle or shotgun or ammo for them, or under 21 to purchase a handgun or handgun ammo since 1968. Look it up. It’s the Gun Control Act of 1968. Therefore since it was illegal for Klebold and Harris to have purchased those firearms, they either must not have committed the crimes, or gun laws are a total failure. BTW the guy who purchased the Tec-9 for them committed a felony known as a straw man purchase and served time in prison for doing so. Why do I doubt that MM included that in the film as well? The fact that many teachers and school staff are armed in Israel has pretty much ended any threats of similar terroristic actions in their schools. One good thing about the Columbine incident is that Klebold and Harris were pathetic as terrorists. Had they simply constructed their butane bombs slightly differently, they could’ve demolished almost half of the school.
June 2, 2006 - 06:51 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Thanks FAO….The very definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction are weapons that kill a great many people at once. A whole village, a subway full of people, or a crowd of 100 is more than enough for me to equate Saddams KNOWN supply with the definition of WMD.
And as far as MM anti-semitism is concerned SF. Please go to the Al-Jeereza website. It may be archived now but MM wrote a letter to the Muslim world admonishing the U.S. support of Israel and jews in particular. It was a vulgar and offensive read but you might like it
June 2, 2006 - 08:00 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Micheal Moore would make BAD BAD LEROY BROWN look like a real nice guy i mean all MOORE can do is fabricate lie and fake it all he should lose his oscar:mad:
June 2, 2006 - 09:51 AM on June 2nd, 2006
“BTW I don’t know which WalMart you shop at SanFran, but the ones I go to have rifle, shotgun and pistol ammo for sale.”
You’re right, my bad…it was K-Mart, not Wal-Mart.
“Do I need to prove my point any further that those idiots who claim that Iraq had no WMDs or the means to produce them are full of excrement?”
Do I need to point out that this is BY NO MEANS the vast stockpiles of WsMD that were SWORN TO GOD would be found in Iraq???
Are you telling me that the Iraq War is now justifiable because a handful of rusty, 20 year old artillery shells with Sarin were found?
Give me a break. This “discovery” >snicker is THE BEST THING YOU APOLOGISTS HAVE to defend the WsMD scare that led us into this disaster of a war.
That is so sad that you pull an article from TWO YEARS AGO in an attempt to justify what 60+ % of Americans already know, and the vast majority of the world already knows: The Iraq War was a mistake of epic proportions, and the biggest blunder in US Military history since Vietnam.
Please. Three years into this thing, it gets more unpopular by the day, nearing 3,000 american dead and over 15,000 wounded…
You will come around sooner or later on this. Nearly everyone else has…
It’s like you people are in a drug induced haze or something. It prevents you from seeing TRUTH and REALITY on Iraq.
you guys are on the fringe on this one. big time.
June 2, 2006 - 09:53 AM on June 2nd, 2006
by fringe, I mean…support for the war and the belief that WsMD were found in Iraq.
June 2, 2006 - 10:49 AM on June 2nd, 2006
I’d like to point out that you don’t need vast stock piles of WMDs to kill milliions. I wonder how many people would die if 1 ounce of the stuff Saddam used on his people was opened in SF’s neighborhood. I’d dare say more than 3000 people would die quite horribly.
Peejz, before your knickers get in a twist here, LOOK at what I’m saying. I am saying Liberals like SF don’t really know what they are talking about. They have in correct pictures in their head that don’t square with reality.
The reality is that it doesn’t take much WMD to make a mass killing, and it certainly doesn’t take stock piles of artillery shells to deliver it as in the anthrax letters of a couple of years ago. Remember?
June 2, 2006 - 10:57 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Oh, I knew SF couldn’t refute the Truth about Bowling For Columbine.
June 2, 2006 - 11:33 AM on June 2nd, 2006
“Oh, I knew SF couldn’t refute the Truth about Bowling For Columbine.”
Please. That’s not it at all. There are tonz of those kinds of things from both sides…
It’s just a waste of time to try and change peoples minds concerning their opinions on a movie.
You either were moved by it or not. Or, like Robert, you refuse to see it and yet comment on it anyway.
June 2, 2006 - 11:35 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Lies are lies. SF, you just can’t admit you push Moore’s lies here.
June 2, 2006 - 11:45 AM on June 2nd, 2006
“Liberals like SF don’t really know what they are talking about. They have in correct pictures in their head that don’t square with reality.”
Funny. We say the same exact thing about your team.
June 2, 2006 - 12:24 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Truth is that you, SF, promulgate lies and we don’t.
June 2, 2006 - 01:44 PM on June 2nd, 2006
“Truth is that you, SF, promulgate lies and we don’t.”
I’m not calling you stupid personally, but this is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard on this board.
Please.
June 2, 2006 - 01:53 PM on June 2nd, 2006
It is the truth. Live with the consequences.
June 2, 2006 - 02:18 PM on June 2nd, 2006
ad hom.
pretty weak, guy.
June 3, 2006 - 12:50 AM on June 3rd, 2006
Gee San Fran, what about 2 tons of enriched uranium that was so radioactive that it had to be removed from the country to prevent it from falling into the hands of the terrorists being the material to make a WMD did you fail to understand?
You claim that I don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to artillery or WMDs, but you do? Have you been third in your class in a classified training program on WMD detection, decontamination, and downwind contamination prediction? Do you know how easy it is to utilize chemical weapons in urban areas without detection? Do you have any idea how much damage a 100 lb container of powdered enriched Uranium would cause if it were on top of a bomb like the one used in Oklahoma City? The radiation contamination would cost millions if not billions to clean up, and that doesn’t even count the number of people who would end up either sick or dead. Have you had any courses on the history of unconventional warfare? I HAVE.
June 3, 2006 - 08:51 AM on June 3rd, 2006
Leftists don’t need to concern themselves with such things, FAO. We have people that deal with such things (our military) so that Liberals don’t have to concern themselves with all of that information, details, facts. That way the Liberals can sit around pontificating, prognosticating, and opinionating on many topics without concerning themselves with reality.
June 3, 2006 - 11:55 AM on June 3rd, 2006
#62: “Are you telling me that the Iraq War is now justifiable because a handful of rusty, 20 year old artillery shells with Sarin were found?”
How do you know they were 20 years old/ And how could there possibly be Sarin inside if saddam never had any WMD?
But there is! And he did! And you have never responded to what FAO brought up, and that was the huge stockpile of enriched uranium we took out of there.
I guess the MSM and the Libs were just hoping that nobody noticed that.
June 3, 2006 - 09:09 PM on June 3rd, 2006
That is so sad that you pull an article from TWO YEARS AGO
What is sad is that even though it’s TWO YEARS OLD, the liberals and the MSM still refuse to admit it is the truth.
Which is sadder to refuse to accept facts that don’t agree with your preconceived beliefs, or to continue espousing the TRUTH to people who refuse to accept it? I admit that at times I think talking to you is utterly futile San Fran because of not your lack of knowledge of the facts but rather your unwillingness to accept them.
You had better hope that this country doesn’t elect the liberal crowd you are so braying for. (I’d say praying for but that’s an anathema to all the liberal left holds dear, so I’ll go with a term more suitable to the emblem of the party they are so proud to support.. The Democratic Ass.) With actions planned in the UN in the next few weeks, if the libs come to power in this country, and jump on board with the UN Convention on Small Arms, there could be a civil war in this country unlike any other and the Liberals will lose it.
June 19, 2007 - 04:04 PM on June 19th, 2007
I am glad we have someone like (Michael Moore) telling us the truth.
Here is one fact, that is real sad, my next door neighbor an Family Doctor, whom gave up his good job, for being offered $50,000 bonus at X-mas time, to hide the FACT from telling the Mother that her only Son had “Cancer, because she was on Molina, an Insurance gave to her from the Sate.
It would had cost the Government $500,000 to keep the poor boy living, with the MRIs and the Chemo treatment’s.
Go Michael Moore! You know, I don’t think Mr. Bush, like’s the poor people very much, kind of like Hitler, but doing away with the Disable, but with better Class, so if you’re on Medicaid, you may be in a lot of trouble, if you’re rich, no need to worry.:???
June 20, 2007 - 01:19 AM on June 20th, 2007
If Moore is telling the truth in Sicko, it will be for the first time.
June 20, 2007 - 06:17 AM on June 20th, 2007
SFL, you are pretty weak and stupid. How many times does it take for you to see the light, you leftwing extremist?
June 17, 2009 - 07:43 PM on June 17th, 2009
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