Is The Issue Ohio in 04′ or Kerry In 08′?
Robert Kennedy has a rather lengthy piece in Rolling Stone this month. In it he tries to show the reader how Ohio was stolen from Kerry! That’s right! He cites the fact that the exit polls are an exact science and they showed Kerry as the winner. Although Rassmussen showed Bush winning! Do you remember that at around noon on election day, bloggers had projected Kerry the winner? I did love the Dick Morris article that Kennedy cited as proof..too bad he didn’t take the time to read what Morris said:
Next to the forged documents that sent CBS on a jihad against Bush’s National Guard service and the planned “60 Minutes” ambush over the so-called missing explosives two days before the polls opened, the possibility of biased exit polling, deliberately manipulated to try to chill the Bush turnout, must be seriously considered.
This isn’t about Ohio being stolen, this is about getting people interested in John Kerry again. Kerry has just this week, come out and defended himself against the Swiftboat Veterans as seen in this piece: Kerry Pressing Swift Boat Case Long After Loss
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June 2, 2006 - 06:25 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Kerry the other guy for the new world order people who want the death of the USA! and the North American Union!
but in the former USA Why not have this pig or that evil killer of little kids at waco and many other places, “hillary”, as our next third world ruler? after all we are not a land of laws by a land of liers and killers for the drug dealers of the third world.:roll:
Kerry and Fox the bitchs you want to run the big hell once called God Country, now called aztlan! WAS 88 WRONG AFTER ALL?
June 2, 2006 - 07:52 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Robert Kennedy Jr the usial blabbering liberal demacrat and big time eco-freak and John Kerry and of course Rolling Stoned and the cBS network what could you get closer to a bunch of dirty rotten reptiles?:mad:
June 2, 2006 - 11:06 AM on June 2nd, 2006
1- Fred, the New World order was a George H. W. Bush thing.
By the way, have you ever considered a relaxing vacation? You’re holding on really tight. You gotta let some of that anger go buddy!
..Chuck..
June 2, 2006 - 11:33 AM on June 2nd, 2006
I just seen the headline on Drudge that Kerry is offering a Cut and Run amendment. Good, put the chickens on record.
June 2, 2006 - 11:56 AM on June 2nd, 2006
Cut and run?
You just don’t get it…
Iraq is a stalemate.
60% + of Americans view the Iraq War as a mistake.
many Pro-War Republicans running for re-election are distancing themselves from Bush on this issue.
Honestly, what more will it take to get you people to understand that you have lost?
You call it cut and run, but it’s really “get out while we still have some integrity left”.
We can’t even deal with Iran properly because our position has weakened so badly in the region, thanks to you guys and Dubya.
The vast majority of Americans “get it”….why can’t some of you?
June 2, 2006 - 12:27 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Iraq is not a stalemate. You libs just don’t like the fact that Bush was right in taking out Saddam. You can’t even admit that there is good done in Iraq by our troops and that there is a budding DEMOCRACY in Iraq. I know you were more comfortable with Saddam in charge. Seems the Saddam way is the way you libs want to run this country, a one party rule by a ruthless, lawless minority.
June 2, 2006 - 12:29 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Whoaaa, hold on just a minute SF. You keep saying 60%+ Americans. I think you have misread. Those stats don’t reflect one solid opinion of Iraq being a mistake. Not to mention polls in general tend to be biased. Rather, it reflects people who have thought about things and think perhaps, that maybe we “could” quite possibly have done something different BUT not necessarily that being there was wrong to begin with. On the contrary I believe most americans understand the reasons why we are there. No one likes war but….
And let me just say that the democrats in conjunction with the main stream media have had a measure of success in their slanderous campaign against our troops and their mission. I just say a prayer each day that when our veterans come home they don’t get spit on by the likes of you and your “team”. Remember Vietnam?
June 2, 2006 - 12:45 PM on June 2nd, 2006
BonBon, just wait for the trials to begin. You haven’t heard how the moonbats really think any soldier who obeyed any “Bush” order is a criminal and should be put on trial. That is SF’s team.
June 2, 2006 - 01:47 PM on June 2nd, 2006
“Seems the Saddam way is the way you libs want to run this country, a one party rule by a ruthless, lawless minority.”
Are you writing this with a straight face?
June 2, 2006 - 01:55 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Yup. Washington State, stolen election by King County Democrats results in a Democrat Governor.
We can go on to MoveOn.org for more goodies on how Republican absentee ballots should be collected by Democrat volunteers and then discarded.
June 2, 2006 - 02:03 PM on June 2nd, 2006
“Not to mention polls in general tend to be biased. Rather, it reflects people who have thought about things and think perhaps, that maybe we “could”quite possibly have done something different BUT not necessarily that being there was wrong to begin with.”
BonBon, I know there are many conservatives that get confused by crazy things like “science”, but when done correctly, polls and statistical calculations can be quite accurate.
But you are right about them being biased. The very fact that a particular question was asked in the place of one of millions of other questions shows bias on the interviewer’s part, but it’s unavoidable. You need to ask questions to get answers.
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Regarding 60% of Americans thinking the Iraq war was a mistake, I stand corrected. Last count shows 62%…
“All in all, considering the costs to the United States versus the benefits to the United States, do you think the war with Iraq was worth fighting, or not?”
- Not Worth Fighting = 62%
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“On the contrary I believe most Americans understand the reasons why we are there.”
BonBon, you can believe all you want, but it won’t make it true.
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“…the democrats in conjunction with the main stream media have had a measure of success in their slanderous campaign against our troops and their mission.”
Uhh, I’m pretty sure that some troops and the mission in and of itself has been pretty successful in slandering its own self – without much help from anyone on the left.
June 2, 2006 - 03:08 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Friday Wrap-up
As I begin looking forward to my weekend, I realize blogging has been pretty light lately. I’m three weeks away from packing up out here in California and heading back home for a little while before I start Officer Training
June 2, 2006 - 03:52 PM on June 2nd, 2006
SF. The majority of people in the US thought Europe wasn’t worth fighting for. Look at how many we lost on D Day alone. Do you think yourself a noble originalist? Sorry to dissapoint you.:cry:
June 2, 2006 - 04:38 PM on June 2nd, 2006
“The majority of people in the US thought Europe wasn’t worth fighting for.”
Maybe before the war, when pacifism was the political strong-hand to have…but I haven’t seen much supporting evidence that the public was “anti-Europe” after we became involved.
But seriously, it’s laughable to compare WW2 with the Iraq War or even the GWOT in general.
Apples and oranges. Sorry to disappoint you.
June 2, 2006 - 08:02 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Don’t lecture me on asemetric warfare. If I wan’t your opinion on a military matter, I will ask or spit at you. Look at the TIME magazine articles on WW2. Poll,,, majority of Americans feel it is not our fight,,, blah, blah,blah. Same defacation you spill every day. Me and my brothers put our life on the line for some sissy ass, commie, pillow biters to run us down? I wish you would come to a Base nearest you and talk your shit. P E O P L E L I K E Y O U S H A M E O U R C O U N T R Y!
June 2, 2006 - 08:17 PM on June 2nd, 2006
I am not sure how comparing WWII and Iraq is apples and oranges…it seems the only possible explanation could be that SF doesn’t like the fact that they can be compared!
June 2, 2006 - 09:08 PM on June 2nd, 2006
“I am not sure how comparing WWII and Iraq is apples and oranges”
“Al-Qaida or its sundry offshoots could crash many more airplanes, wreck many more buildings, and bomb many more subways”and the magnitude of their power, and the urgency of their threat, would still fall far short of that posed by Nazi Germany. The panzers of the Wehrmacht rolled across the plains of Europe, toppling governments with ease, imposing totalitarian regimes, and killing millions in their wake. This was a war of civilization on a level that today’s war”however you might define it”doesn’t begin to approach.”
-Fred Kaplan
June 2, 2006 - 09:13 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Damn SF! You gotta point. I guess Saddam wasn’t that bad of a guy. Hell, he never got to the millions that your regurgetated communism has killed. Lets give socialism another chance, and while we are at it, put Saddam back in power… K?
June 2, 2006 - 09:17 PM on June 2nd, 2006
Asymmetric Warfare
June 3, 2006 - 01:09 AM on June 3rd, 2006
San Fran you did make one point that I have to agree with. Just because someone believes something doesn’t make it true. Just because the Media and the Liberal leftist are claiming we’re losing in Iraq doesn’t make it true. The facts are that the Jihadis are losing people faster than they can replenish them. Their best source for propaganda is the Liberal Left and the Main Stream Media. Why is it that when Marines kill 15 people under questionable circumstances that are being investigated, Murtha and others are out there proclaiming them murderers before the investigation has even been completed? At the same time, terrorists kill double that amount of innocent civilians on a daily basis and the MSM buries the attacks in the back of the paper. Who do you think that kind of editing is going to support? The Marines who are fighting for the future of the free world, or the terrorists who are fighting to prevent there from being a free world in the future? Who do you think benefits from having our Marines called murderers without a proper investigation being done while at the same time hiding from the average reader the very reasons WHY we are over there fighting? IS it any wonder that the average person lacking a solid background in world history and military operations is beginning to believe that we are failing there? Despite the facts saying otherwise? DO you honestly think that soldiers would volunteer to go back over to Iraq for multiple tours if they thought we were losing? We don’t have stupid soldiers in this country. We don’t have convicts fighting in our military anymore. In fact our military is the best educated in the world and an all VOLUNTEER force. In fact most of our soldiers are better educated than most of the liberals in Hollywood.
June 3, 2006 - 08:39 AM on June 3rd, 2006
“The facts are that the Jihadis are losing people faster than they can replenish them. Their best source for propaganda is the Liberal Left and the Main Stream Media.”
Agree 100%. And I wonder why more people are not tralking about how the traiterous words of Al Gore (at his Saudi visit/speech, John “In Cold Blood” Murtha, Turban “like Nazis” Durbin, Chapatraitor “Abu Ghraib” kennedy, and other degenerate skum are being broadcast all over the Arab world and are no doubt being used as propaganda to recruit more terrorists.
June 3, 2006 - 09:10 AM on June 3rd, 2006
“Iraq is not a stalemate. You libs just don’t like the fact that Bush was right in taking out Saddam. You can’t even admit that there is good done in Iraq by our troops and that there is a budding DEMOCRACY in Iraq. I know you were more comfortable with Saddam in charge. Seems the Saddam way is the way you libs want to run this country, a one party rule by a ruthless, lawless minority.”
That’s correct, Saddam wasn’t so bad after all! In fact, he never would have been nearly so despotic if not pushed to it by the Bush’s and the oil companies who just want to steal Iraq’s oil! See, the U.S. built up Saddam, gave him the WMDs (that he never had anyway), but now when he didn’t want to cooperate any more, they demonized and tore him down.
Now those 500.000+ skeletons they have unearthed in mass graves in Iraq are not real. Saddam had started a company to supply skeletons to schools and labs for display, and he came up with idea of making them out of plastic since he had soi much oil. But the company went out of business and so they just buried the entire inventory in landfills.
Oh, and that shredder story the Right has been telling? Turns out that those “bodies” supposedly fed into the shredder were just mannequins from a Baghdad department store. Saddam actually had a very progressive recycling system, as he was a faithful steward of the environment and was singlehandedly combatting Global Warming.
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Now if your a Liberal Democrite, and a member of the BHDS crowd, you probably could believe the above. I’ll bet many would read it and feel their pulses quicken with excitement and affirmation as they read.
June 3, 2006 - 09:22 AM on June 3rd, 2006
21. Good one Robert.
June 5, 2006 - 05:56 PM on June 5th, 2006
“Remember the Wisconsin vote!â€
It was 10 times closer and no one ever talks about it. Why? Because Senator Kerry took Wisconsin.
President Bush won the (’04) election fair and square.
This whole Ohio thing is stupid moronic bullshit and frankly I’m sick of hearing it.