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	<title>Comments on: Dissent? No! More Like MUTINY OR SEDITION</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/06/07/dissent-no-more-like-mutiny-or-sedition/comment-page-1/#comment-230343</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t understand is how he could be a 1lt and not have known he would be sent to war? If he was so damn opposed to this war, he could&#039;ve selected a non combat arm branch and been sitting behind a desk for the duration of his career. He doesn&#039;t have the luxury of claiming that he didn&#039;t know that there was a war in Iraq, it started before he was commissioned. He almost certainly could&#039;ve opted for a service and support branch and not been in this situation. I think he may have chosen a combat arms branch just to pull this stunt. 

The Army needs to throw the book at him simply because it&#039;s detrimental to morale to have morons pull stunts like this. Recruitment will actually be improved because it&#039;ll prove that the Army isn&#039;t looking for cowards to command its troops. Soldiers rally around a tough as nails leader but shy away from limp wristed ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is how he could be a 1lt and not have known he would be sent to war? If he was so damn opposed to this war, he could&#8217;ve selected a non combat arm branch and been sitting behind a desk for the duration of his career. He doesn&#8217;t have the luxury of claiming that he didn&#8217;t know that there was a war in Iraq, it started before he was commissioned. He almost certainly could&#8217;ve opted for a service and support branch and not been in this situation. I think he may have chosen a combat arms branch just to pull this stunt. </p>
<p>The Army needs to throw the book at him simply because it&#8217;s detrimental to morale to have morons pull stunts like this. Recruitment will actually be improved because it&#8217;ll prove that the Army isn&#8217;t looking for cowards to command its troops. Soldiers rally around a tough as nails leader but shy away from limp wristed ones.</p>
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		<title>By: snowy egret</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/06/07/dissent-no-more-like-mutiny-or-sedition/comment-page-1/#comment-230218</link>
		<dc:creator>snowy egret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can bet that every one of those rotten left-wing hollywood directors will be wanting to use him in a movie espeialy low life scum like MICHEAL MOORE or OLIVER STONE:mad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can bet that every one of those rotten left-wing hollywood directors will be wanting to use him in a movie espeialy low life scum like MICHEAL MOORE or OLIVER STONE:mad:</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/06/07/dissent-no-more-like-mutiny-or-sedition/comment-page-1/#comment-230209</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, the Army is not that desperate. The Army is not like a local McDonalds that will keep someone just to fill a shift.  This guy will not get off easy by any stretch of the imagination!  

When this is all said and done and if he goes through with his plan and does not go with his platoon...he will be court martialed...the severity of that does not end when he walks out of prison...he carries that with him on his record and records are checked in employment..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, the Army is not that desperate. The Army is not like a local McDonalds that will keep someone just to fill a shift.  This guy will not get off easy by any stretch of the imagination!  </p>
<p>When this is all said and done and if he goes through with his plan and does not go with his platoon&#8230;he will be court martialed&#8230;the severity of that does not end when he walks out of prison&#8230;he carries that with him on his record and records are checked in employment..</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Wolber</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/06/07/dissent-no-more-like-mutiny-or-sedition/comment-page-1/#comment-230198</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Wolber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sad situation really. It&#039;s pretty much dominating the news here in Seattle. FrmrArtyOffcr, you&#039;re right, he faces some pretty stiff reprocussions and may live to regret his actions. Having seen him interviewed, I believe he (and his father) are very clear on the legal consequences.

I personally believe that the Army is having such trouble with recruiting they&#039;re going to go relatively easy on him. He&#039;s not going to get off scott free, but I doubt he&#039;ll serve much jail time.

..Chuck..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad situation really. It&#8217;s pretty much dominating the news here in Seattle. FrmrArtyOffcr, you&#8217;re right, he faces some pretty stiff reprocussions and may live to regret his actions. Having seen him interviewed, I believe he (and his father) are very clear on the legal consequences.</p>
<p>I personally believe that the Army is having such trouble with recruiting they&#8217;re going to go relatively easy on him. He&#8217;s not going to get off scott free, but I doubt he&#8217;ll serve much jail time.</p>
<p>..Chuck..</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone needs to explain to this meat head exactly what is going to happen to him. A general courts martial and dishonorable discharge (whether they send him to Leavenworth or not) is still a federal felony conviction. He will not be able to become an attorney, police officer, or any other officer of the court without a presidential pardon. His odds of becoming a doctor are also severely limited. His right to vote is revoked in most states until a pardon would be received. He will never be permitted to legally purchase a firearm. Or become a pilot.

At this point in time, the military has no choice but to prosecute him. He is utterly worthless as a combat officer as few if any soldiers would follow him. In fact, for his own safety, about the only place he wouldn&#039;t risk being fragged would be in Leavenworth. They could offer to allow him to resign for the good of the service which is a less than honorable but not a dishonourable discharge. Seeing as he has been trying to resign for ages, I would bet that he only went into ROTC as a means to have his college paid for by the military while having no intention to actually serve. With that in mind, I would suggest that he be considered for charges of fraud. If I remember correctly (it&#039;s been 22 years) the oath flat out says that you are taking the oath freely without reservation or for purpose of evasion. Obviously he did have reservations and therefore LIED when he took the oath. He should therefore also be charged with PERJURY. 

All told, his little stunt has racked up enough violations of the UCMJ that he could be a grey haired old man before he breathes free air again. I wonder how proud his dad&#039;s going to be when he realizes that his instigating has gotten his son a nice long prison sentence. Oh wait I forgot he thinks the kid is going to get out scott free. He is too stupid to realize that a court martial isn&#039;t a civilian court. His attorney doesn&#039;t get to cherry pick the jurors. The convening authority appoints the jurors, and all of them will be higher ranking officers, and they aren&#039;t going to show this little moron ANY mercy. Another thing Dad needs to take into account is that once in Leavenworth, junior&#039;s going to be in with a bunch of people who aren&#039;t necessarily predisposed to liking officers and especially cowardly ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone needs to explain to this meat head exactly what is going to happen to him. A general courts martial and dishonorable discharge (whether they send him to Leavenworth or not) is still a federal felony conviction. He will not be able to become an attorney, police officer, or any other officer of the court without a presidential pardon. His odds of becoming a doctor are also severely limited. His right to vote is revoked in most states until a pardon would be received. He will never be permitted to legally purchase a firearm. Or become a pilot.</p>
<p>At this point in time, the military has no choice but to prosecute him. He is utterly worthless as a combat officer as few if any soldiers would follow him. In fact, for his own safety, about the only place he wouldn&#8217;t risk being fragged would be in Leavenworth. They could offer to allow him to resign for the good of the service which is a less than honorable but not a dishonourable discharge. Seeing as he has been trying to resign for ages, I would bet that he only went into ROTC as a means to have his college paid for by the military while having no intention to actually serve. With that in mind, I would suggest that he be considered for charges of fraud. If I remember correctly (it&#8217;s been 22 years) the oath flat out says that you are taking the oath freely without reservation or for purpose of evasion. Obviously he did have reservations and therefore LIED when he took the oath. He should therefore also be charged with PERJURY. </p>
<p>All told, his little stunt has racked up enough violations of the UCMJ that he could be a grey haired old man before he breathes free air again. I wonder how proud his dad&#8217;s going to be when he realizes that his instigating has gotten his son a nice long prison sentence. Oh wait I forgot he thinks the kid is going to get out scott free. He is too stupid to realize that a court martial isn&#8217;t a civilian court. His attorney doesn&#8217;t get to cherry pick the jurors. The convening authority appoints the jurors, and all of them will be higher ranking officers, and they aren&#8217;t going to show this little moron ANY mercy. Another thing Dad needs to take into account is that once in Leavenworth, junior&#8217;s going to be in with a bunch of people who aren&#8217;t necessarily predisposed to liking officers and especially cowardly ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;...what he believes is an illegal war of occupation...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, Lt, you don&#039;t make that call and have no right, no place whatsoever to decide you are not going to follow orders. T
his is cut and dried. There is only one possible outcome, and it won&#039;t be what he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;what he believes is an illegal war of occupation&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sorry, Lt, you don&#8217;t make that call and have no right, no place whatsoever to decide you are not going to follow orders. T<br />
his is cut and dried. There is only one possible outcome, and it won&#8217;t be what he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/06/07/dissent-no-more-like-mutiny-or-sedition/comment-page-1/#comment-230186</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also makes me think of ARTICLE 88 of the UCMJ: &quot;Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.â€

The military better handle this little dude...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also makes me think of ARTICLE 88 of the UCMJ: &#8220;Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.â€</p>
<p>The military better handle this little dude&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he were one of my platoon leaders, I would be dusting off my Manual of Courts Marshal....  This soldier is going to be in BAAAAAD trouble.  F&#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he were one of my platoon leaders, I would be dusting off my Manual of Courts Marshal&#8230;.  This soldier is going to be in BAAAAAD trouble.  F&#8217;em.</p>
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