God helps those who help themselves. I certainly don’t want to be killed just because the next warming trend is due to come. I pray, but I carpool to do my part in keeping the world cooler.

I have also heard these remarks from people, but they are people of no consequence. There are just as many liberal die-hards as conservative die-hards that just spout idiotic uninformed statements like this.

I think AKD’s point is that any liberal spokesperson who is responsible would not something obviously flip and ignorant as this. People like Rosie O’Donnell might, but she is has a severe case of verbal diarrhea.

35. As for the human factor I have heard it’s something like .0003%, not the 2 degrees you speak of.

So we all agree that global warming is happening. Humans do play a role whether a big role or very small role.

It is undisputed (90%+ certainty) that Human CO2 emissions have increased 70% from 1970-2004. Human CO2 emissions will only increase in coming decades.

The cost of limiting human contribution to global warming is 0.1% of GDP. For an average $40,000 salary, this is $40. This is like one less restaurant dinner for the family a year, or one less movie trip a year.

This $40 a year seems pretty affordable for the assurance that humans have done all that can be done, and are not contributing to global warming.

Some other numbers as reference points:

Total Hurricane Katrina damage is $200 per US citizen.

Our national defense budget (not including war) is $1,333 per person.

Iraq war (not including defense budget) so far has cost every US citizen $1,700.

It is estimated that the lifetime health care costs of our US wounded will be another $1,700 for every US citizen.

As for the human factor I have heard it’s something like .0003%, not the 2 degrees you speak of. These changes take place over a very long time and are inevitable either way. There is nothing we can do to stop it. Having said that we should not allow our environment to become polluted. I clean my house, I do not live in squalor. I would expect to treat my environment the same way.

As for Bush and your accusations. I think you are wrong and if you look at legislation that has passed during his term you will see that he is very much concerned about environmental issues. Just because these pieces of legislation don’t get plastered all over the major networks and the NYT doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Check it out.

I haven’t seen any indication that this describes the majority of scientists. Regardless, even if it did, the human factor remains the factor that we actually have some control over and, consequently, it’s the factor that we ought to act on. For example, if in a certain region natural factors are causing a temperature increase of 3 degrees and human activity is causing a further increase of only 2 degrees, this doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t work to eliminate the human-caused change any more than we shouldn’t work to eliminate murder even though old age kills more people. If the additional increase causes more death, environmental devastation, etc., we ought to do something about it.

I do find it strange that the current administration continues to reject the call to act on global warming despite the calls are coming not just from other nations generally, but from Blair (thus far our best ally in the war on terror). Nicolas Sarkozy, the most pro-American president that France has had in decades, has called on the U.S. to join in agreeing to do something about global warming in his very first speech after being elected.

Incidentally, I’ve never heard a democrat say that terrorism is “nothing to fear,” though some certainly disagree with Repulicans on the best means of combatting it. If you have a link to a democrat saying that terrorism is no big deal, please pass it along.

The dinosaurs became extinct for a reason millions of years ago and we could as well but maybe not for any cosmic reason but rather one of our own making. It’s a thought and a problem worth looking into imo.

But there are people who come on here and start looking for fights. No question about that.

This certainly seems reasonable, but remember, you’re on “Right Voices.” Prepare to be attacked.