(Picture Courtesy of Michelle Malkin)
Emerging buzz seems to be focused on why it took so long to release info about 500 chemical-weapons shells found in Iraq.
Austin Bay predicts conspiracy-mongering. Ed Morrissey remembers a sarin gas shell discovery in May 2004. Ed theorizes:
Some will claim that the release is strictly for political purposes. They may have a point, but I doubt it will have anything to do with domestic politics. If Bush wanted to use it for that, he would have done so in October 2004 and not in June 2006. This information changes the picture about our pre-war intelligence in time for the Iranian confrontation — and I suspect that the White House wants to declassify it in order to convince European leaders that our intel actually paid off.
Glenn Reynolds has the press conference transcript with Santorum and Hoekstra.
Allah has good links
Linked with:
LIB: NO WMD’s! Bush Lied!
American Soldier: Ahhh, here they are, over 500.
LIB: They were made before 1991…
American Soldier: Ahhhh, yeah,,, and your point?
LIB: You are in an unjust war!
American Soldier: Excuse me? Would you want your family exposed to Mustard Gas?
LIB: If it pushes a socialist America!
American Soldier:
Well John, I almost hate to say it, but, haven’t I been telling the libs they were wrong every damn time they post on the list that there weren’t any WMDs in Iraq?
As for the argument that there are ONLY 500 shells, well there were over 3000 planes in the air on 9/11 but it only took 4 of them to wake this country up to the fact that Islamofascist terrorists want us dead too.
UPDATE VIA ED:
UPDATE VI: Rick at The Real Ugly American has an update with an explanation of the reason the Bush administration kept this quiet:
General Tom Mcinerney is reporting on Fox Hannity and Colmes right now that that the administration has been keeping this low profile to avoid exposing 3 of the 5 members of the UN Security council; Russia, China, and France. McInerney says these weapons will be traced to these countries, and asserts it is well known that Russia helped Saddam move most of his WMD stockpiles out of Iraq before the war.
We wanted to keep France, Russia, and China from embarrassment? Well, maybe. And if that is true, then maybe the White House has decided that the silence has hampered its attempts to get tough on Iran, and thus the declassification now.
UPDATE VII: At 8:46 PM, the first wire report from the mainstream media comes from Fox four hours later:
Hoekstra and Santorum lamented that Americans were given the impression after a 16-month search conducted by the Iraq Survey Group that the evidence of continuing research and development of weapons of mass destruction was insignificant. But the National Ground Intelligence Center took up where the ISG left off when it completed its report in November 2004, and in the process of collecting intelligence for the purpose of force protection for soldiers and sailors still on the ground in Iraq, has shown that the weapons inspections were incomplete, they and others have said.
“We know it was there, in place, it just wasn’t operative when inspectors got there after the war, but we know what the inspectors found from talking with the scientists in Iraq that it could have been cranked up immediately, and that’s what Saddam had planned to do if the sanctions against Iraq had halted and they were certainly headed in that direction,” said Fred Barnes, editor of The Weekly Standard and a FOX News contributor.
The DoD reminds people that these munitions likely would not have worked if deployed and were not necessarily the WMD that intel agencies reported. However, they also acknowledged that Saddam’s retention of his Gulf War munitions shows his deception to the UN and the cease-fire powers.
The DoD reminds people that these munitions likely would not have worked if deployed and were not necessarily the WMD that intel agencies reported. However, they also acknowledged that Saddam’s retention of his Gulf War munitions shows his deception to the UN and the cease-fire powers.
Peejz, forgive me in advance, but here are assorted comments about the WMD from DU scum.
This is sad. But what we should see now is an UNEQUIVOCAL, STRONG REBUTTAL FROM DEMOCRATS, at unison, calling them on their bullshit.
4. surrrrrrreeeee……yawnnnn
and Bin Laden is waiting in a freezer….
It’s beyond propaganda. It’s pure Orwellian brainwashing for the brainless. Truly mindbending, if you ask me.
Cans of raid and a fly swatter.
Right … and these were NOT planted … sure
So when did you say I needed to make that downpayment
on the bridge you were selling ????
And a quick comment by an American, who has some sense of patriotism. “so i suppose the possibility that these were real, were bought by saddam, and were able to be used against us doesn’t exist right? btw, I know this post will get me banned but I dont give a shit.”
NOW TELL ME RV,,, Who’s fukin side are these democrats on? Moonbat traitors!
Unfukinbelieveable, these pinkos!
One sentence you WILL NOT hear a democrat / liberal utter…
“Well, I sure am glad they found those weapons before they could have been used on American Troops, civilians, jews, etc. I have to give the president and Military credit on this one.”
I can’t wait for SF to be a moonbat and tell us there really isn’t any WMD in Iraq and Saddam didn’t have a delivery system anyway, so why don’t the GOP admit they are liars and resign so the rightful rulers of the US can take their places of power and bring us Nirvana with Kurt Cobain.
With this gas genocide in the curdish village in 1988 it was quite clear that Saddam’s troops had some chemical weapons… I wonder where he got those from
In general: Why isn’t sth done against all those dark channels where the looney leaders get the knowlegde/people to build stuff like that. I mean- it’s not really a surprise that Putin doesn’t want any UN resolutions against Iran, right?
6–Really? So I completely imagined it yesterday when one of my liberal friends said he was glad they found them?
Talk about blanket statements that are just false.
“Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.
“This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991,” the official said, adding the munitions “are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war.””
link
LOL…you guys are funny. The only people talking about this are the wacko-rightie blogs, who get a kick out of playing reporter.
next.
10–Interesting story. Thanks for the link.
“A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions “in such a degraded state they couldn’t be used for what they are designed for.”"
link
…YAWN.
SF, you are fukin unfukinbelievable! You said there were no WMDs. Well there ya fukin go.
Yawn,,, on election day.
Back when the moonbats and traitors said there was no WMD, I said let them check out the chemical shells found in their neighborhoods. That still holds. If they think this stuff is so harmless, then let it be harmless where they live.
I got some crow here,,, open up SF. Your were WRONG! And futher more, you people (LIBS/COMMS) keep setting yoursleves up. Keep running your mouths. My Mom in Law, is Apolitical, and after hearing libs on tv last night, say the things you are parroting, said, “They found 500, and these democrats are saying it doesn’t matter?”. Just got another person to vote conservative in Alabama. LOL
Note to libs: Please keep talking! LOL
PCD in Anniston, AL great lengths for security and protection of the public is used where they destroy the US’s old Chemical weapons,,, dating bact to 1950′s…. The public here has been scared shitless and there are evacuation routs etc. etc. And they libs act as if it isn’t dangerous.
John, SF doesn’t have the courage of his convictions, nor can he back up the checks his mouth has been writing. When you put his rear on the line, that is all you see as he disappears in the distance.
Let the looney left keep on talking…. Let them deny that Sarin and Mustard gas is WMD. They are loosing support by the seconds whilst their CS’s are running.
Guys and gals…LOL…relax! This isn’t a big deal at all for a few reasons, but the most obvious one I will repoost for you:
“”A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions “in such a degraded state they couldn’t be used for what they are designed for.—
see link above…
SOOOOOooooo….yeah. They aren’t a threat, they are pre-1991 so they are not proof that Saddam kept a program going…you got nothing.
Your filthy, failed invasion is STILL unjustified as there just aren’t any WsMD being found that were a threat to the US or our allies – the reasons given for the War.
Just old – ineffective, rusty shells. This kind of thing has been found before, and nobody credible makes a big deal about it, even the Bush admin didn’t think this was important, otherwise they would have let it out long ago when they were hurting more than ever in polls and opinions on Iraq.
Again…YAWN.
I guess that you wouldn’t mind one of the shells being discharged in your bedroom SF? You, SF, are a LIAR! You said time and time again no WMD’s were found, I told you they had and you said a few shells didn’t matter. Now we have over 500, and keep in mind the rest of the report is CLASSIFIED, but I truly believe you, and your traitor friends will have shit on your face for running your mouths. You are singing a diffrent tune now… LOL
“I guess that you wouldn’t mind one of the shells being discharged in your bedroom SF?”
Gee, John. I’m really surprised you’re not getting it after being told repeatedly.
THEY…ARE…OLD…AND…INEFFECTIVE AS A WMD…
I obviously wouldn’t want any bomb going off in my bedroom, but I certainly wouldn’t be worrying about any chemicals from these were talking about.
Better keep looking for excuses and justifications for your filthy, failed, and tragic war – because this one is empty.
John, how can they be WsMD if they are just plain old artilery shells with expired, and ineffective 20 year old chemicals???
You just aren’t getting it.
They are not WMDs. Your own government, says so. Pay attention when you read this next bit…for the third time:
“A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions “in such a degraded state they couldn’t be used for what they are designed for.”
see link above.
Now, what have you got?!? ….shit!
HAHA…
try again.
next.
Your are an IDIOT SF. Would you want them dropped on your precious little liberal paradise?
I really love telling you this,,, mustard and nerve agents are CHEMICAL WEAPONS YOU IDIOT….:lol:
John…why are you not getting the fact that whatever was found was harmless as a WMD?
I wouldn’t want any bomb dropped on SF, but if it had to be these, at least I would know that there don’t have any active chemicals left in them. (!)
Why are you afraid of old, chemicaly degraded, harmless shells?
Do you always shake in your boots like this? It’s unbecoming.
You are an idiot if you think these shells are harmless. You may want us to believe they were harmless, but they aren’t…. Good luck, you will need it.
ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE WORLD: SF LIB SAYS THAT IF A CEHMICAL WEAPON IS MORE THAN 12 YEARS OLD,,, THAN IT IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED A CHEMICAL WEAPON,,, IT IS HARMLESS….:lol:
“Do you always shake in your boots like this? It’s unbecoming.”
This soldier has yet to shake in my boots, but your contempt for the military is quite overt now.
I guess that is why the people who are handeling the WMD’s are wearing CHEM/BIO Suits… LOL
John, for the last time…this is from Peejz post #3…
“The DoD reminds people that these munitions likely would not have worked if deployed and were not necessarily the WMD that intel agencies reported.”
Dude, you’re wrong. And you’re making an ass of yourself.
Your hatred of the president, military, and our country has no limits. You, and your ilk, have way too much invested us loosing in iraq, and you will willingly help the enemy to have your recycled communism take hold in this great country. SHAME
ASS? “Likeley would not have worked”…. Read it yourself fool.
John, fools like SF do nothing but irritate the sane folks that allow him the freedom to be a donkey. Just ignore him and when the terrorists strike, pray it is his house that is in the ground zero with him in it. If he survives, we can all ask him how harmless Saddam’s WMD was.
This,,,, it, SFQ, makes Shiloh and Sandy the Toronto W@#$#, look sane. SF,,,, now referred to as it, isn’t in the least way intellectually honest.
“we can all ask him how harmless Saddam’s WMD was.”
Why don’t you ask the DoD?
They said: “The DoD reminds people that these munitions likely would not have worked if deployed and were not necessarily the WMD that intel agencies reported.â€
IT,,, “likely is the key word”. Does this comment make the munitions not dangerous? JUST ANSWER THIS FUKIN QUESTION!
Fool said: “Does this comment make the munitions not dangerous?”
yes.
Do you now need my help understanding what “likely would not have” means?
wow. you’re dumber than I thought!
“…and when the terrorists strike, pray it is his house that is in the ground zero with him in it”
LOL…and you say which side is the Hate-filled one?
Yeeeah.
Where is Mike Kilo and Robert? Why are the two dumbest f*cks (John Galt and PCD) on this board the only one talking today??? At least make this interesting for me…
YAWN.
SF, you pillow biting pinko, I could care less what you think in your make believe world…. You are a Hatemonger, just like the other DU idiots. Like Cicero said, the enemy at the gates is less dangerous that the traitorus likes of you. You are an enabeler of the enemy, at your countrys expense, which I am sure most here agree is the LOWEST form of life. Therefore you are an “it”.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” Cicero, about SF aka (IT)
38–Are you trying to say that SF poses more of a threat than Al Qaeda? Wow, that’s a stretch even for the extreme far right. Can you please explain how he is enabling them?
Alyssa, speaking for the “far right”, i guess, read post 29. Perhaps you might understand. The Al Qaeda, is trying to destroy us from the outside, the far left, is trying to destroy us from the inside. His breed is almost extinct, however they are dangerous.
“He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.â€
I have stared down the guy with the gun. I at least KNOW his motives, these guys do exactly what is quoted above,,, and in 39 if you care to read it.
“Are you trying to say that SF poses more of a threat than Al Qaeda?” No, we can defeat the enemy of our nation,,, our culture that comes at us with weapons, however, the left wants to abolish GOD, weaken the family, etc, etc, (Destroy our Culture). In the end, an nation destroyed is a nation destroyed, and SF’s vision of America has no similarities to our Great Nation.
Perhaps his vision is close to France, vietnam, China, or the Soviets, but it isn’t America
41–Are you referring me to post 29 about wearing bio-hazard suits, or is it a typo? I know you have a serious dislike for liberals, but I don’t agree that they’re trying to destroy us. I don’t think they’re dangerous. At times, some may be misguided, as we all can be, but dangerous? I personally don’t think so.
Maybe I have just had a better experience with liberals, given the fact that most of my friends and family are Democrats. They’re not mentally insane, they’re not hateful, and they’re not dangerous. Maybe you know libs that are, but I think it’s “dangerous” to pigeon-hole someone just because you disagree with them. You’ve even gone off on me before for not agreeing 100% with you, and I’m conservative. I’m not trying to get in the middle of anything here, but I think it would be easier to take you seriously when you’re not wishing death on someone.
Alyssa, 39 not 29. Sorry. NOW,,,I wish death on no one, but the enemy who attempts to bring it upon me. However, you rush to the aid of somebody who will not support our nation one bit. Show me ONE comment supporting the United States that this fag is written. That is what I don’t understand. Do you naturally defend the underdog? I am reading my comments trying to see where I have wished death on ANYBODY here. Outside of telling some to consider “honorable suicide”, which is in jest, I cannot find it.
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Perhaps, I am blowing off some steam. All I ever here are these libs, either calling us murderes, occupiers, telling us how we are fighting an unjust war. I gotta get shot at trying to help children, (school supplies, teddy bears etc), and get spit on by these bastards? And I am fuking sick of it. You have a bunch of “code pink” “peace activist” assaulting injured soldiers when they attempt to leave walter reed…. There comes a point in time when you decide you must get off the fence and decide who’s side you are on. The US, Anti-US… Most of the left has made their choice, I have made mine,,,,, you?