Thanks For Nothing Debbie Stabenow
By: Pam On: Jun/26/06 - 19 Comments
Dangerously incompetant seems a bit nice for her. What I learned about Debbie is that, she is a follower and not a leader. She reminds me of playdoh to be honest with you…Whatever, Teddy or Hillary want her to be, they shape her to become that. For the past 5 years, her votes have closely followed that of Teddy’s and Hillary’s. Too bad our state hasn’t benefited as their states have. I caught this today and thought it was a hoot…so very true…..
June 27, 2006 - 10:27 AM on June 27th, 2006
You call Sen. Stabenow incompetant, but you won’t call Bush incompetant???? The KING of idiots???
June 27, 2006 - 10:32 AM on June 27th, 2006
That would be correct..our National economy is booming yet Debbie is aiding all states other than the one she represents..that is unless a union contribution is on the line and even at that she has failed…
June 27, 2006 - 11:16 AM on June 27th, 2006
The idiot cabal runs the Democrat party, SF, and they never fail to prove it.
June 27, 2006 - 11:21 AM on June 27th, 2006
Right, PCD…the Democrats are in control of the country and are responsible for EVERYTHING that has happened in the past 6 years. Good and Bad.
Yeeeaaah. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid…
June 29, 2006 - 10:37 PM on June 29th, 2006
San Fran. Not to be nasty, but you need to stop reading idiotic opinion polls and start looking at the facts versus the opinions. The economy is booming. Unemployment is extremely low. Home ownership is at an all time high. The stock market is a bit off this week, but still near record highs above 11000. Taxes are far lower than under the Clinton administration and that’s leading to more jobs and economic growth. With the effects of 9/11 on the job market, and the recession that Bush inherited from Clinton, the unemployment rate is phenominal. Exactly how is any of this BAD or the sign of incompetence?
As for the war, Bush is leaving running the war to the people who know how to run one… The Generals. Since I realize that neither you nor most of the liberal left know a damn thing about wars, I’ll give you a bit of information. NOTHING EVER GOES AS PLANNED. Wars are not won by two cruise missiles. They’re won by the infantry soldier. Intelligence is NEVER correct. Signal/electronic intelligence is never better than Human intelligence and Human intelligence isn’t worth a damn without corroboration. Our intelligence leading up to the war was the best that it could be under the circumstances, it can never be perfect. Which would be better, take the chance that the contents of those 500 Chemical weapons find their way into the hands of terrorists and then into the ventilation systems of a number of subways killing thousands of innocent people? or invade Iraq and prevent that from happening? The intelligence said that the weapons were there in even greater quantities than the 500 rounds that have been found so far. The tons of enriched Uranium that have been moved out of Iraq would’ve been enough to contaminate large areas of any major city. Who would tell the people that they’re going to die from radiation poisoning because the terrorists had gotten hold of enriched uranium and used it in a dirty bomb?
June 30, 2006 - 11:13 AM on June 30th, 2006
“The economy is booming.”
Sure, but not for everyone. If everything is going great with the economy, then why is the gap between rich and poor getting larger?
Why is the middle class getting smaller?
The economy is booming, but only for a select few. The rest of us sit on the sidelines while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Unemployment is “low”, but what kind of jobs are being created? Lower paying service sector jobs. Fast food, etc.
Oh, and the federal min. wage hasn’t been raised in nearly ten years. But Congress has given themselves raises many times since then.
The American people smell a rat. Maybe that’s why the republican controlled congress is polling worse than Bush is. Job Approval somewhere in the 20%s.
Americas best days are behind us, especially with republicans in control of everything.
June 30, 2006 - 11:14 AM on June 30th, 2006
“Bush is leaving running the war to the people who know how to run one: The Generals.”
Oh, so NOW he listens to the generals. If he had payed attention in the begining, he would have taken ALL their advice and sent WAY more troops into Iraq to secure the peace after the fall of Saddam.
June 30, 2006 - 02:18 PM on June 30th, 2006
So you want more war or less? Which is it? The Left says we shouldn’t have gone in, now they say we should have gone in with a greater force. Which is it?
(Actually, we know what it is. It is whatever sounds good at the time for the purpose of criticizing Bush).
June 30, 2006 - 04:18 PM on June 30th, 2006
The answer is:
We should not have rushed in. Efforts to continue WMD inspections should have continued. There are hundreds of other avenues the US could have taken, all of which avoid full scale invasion and occupation – which we all know destabilized Iraq and plunged it into a low grade civil war.
Just about everyone but you, SuperGenius, and your far-right ilk NOW understand what the anti-war left knew all along; IT WAS A MISTAKE TO INVADE AND OCCUPY IRAQ. Clearly, a majority of Americans feel this way and have since late last year.
Regarding the “not listening to the generals issue”, I only mention it to show, once again, the damage the incompetent fool you people helped to elect has done to the military men and women.
Why do you hate Americas fighting men and women so much? Why do you send them to needless death and maiming?
Why do NeoConservatives hate America?
Why do you want our troops to die in unnecessary wars of choice?
June 30, 2006 - 04:51 PM on June 30th, 2006
“the damage the incompetent fool you people helped to elect has done to the military men and women.
Why do you hate Americas fighting men and women so much? Why do you send them to needless death and maiming?
Why do NeoConservatives hate America?
Why do you want our troops to die in unnecessary wars of choice? “
Are you trying to be funny or something?
Who is it that is constantly trying to undermine the troops, not only their morale, but directly by attacking them:
“In Cold Blood” Murtha
“Abu Ghraib” Kennedy
“Terrorizing women and children in the middle of the night” Kerry
“like Nazis and Soviet Gulags” Durbin
Guess what? None of the above are Conservatives, Republicans, or Neocons.
Needless death and maiming? The core of the war on terror is in Iraq, right now. Our troops are fighting against the enemy right there, right now, and are kicking their asses (as Zarqawi even knew). Where should we fight them? On the streets of America?
The rest of the war on terror is everywhere, including in America. It consists of finding these cells, these infiltrators, and finding them before they kill innocent Americans. But you and your brethren don’t want us to be able to do that either. You don’t want incoming calls from foreign terrorists tapped, you don’t want bank records monitored to detect transfers of cash to terrorists cells, you don’t want phone records data mined, you just don’t want our intelligence and law enforcement agencies to be able to do their job.
You have not proposed one effective way to fight the war on terror, you just knee-jerk oppose EVERY thing the Bush Admin does. And by war of choice, who started this? Who declared war on us? Who attacked on 9/11? Who bombed the Cole? etc. etc. etc. Wake up and smell the feces! War was declared on us!
The way of the Left is the way of suicide for a nation.
June 30, 2006 - 05:01 PM on June 30th, 2006
9- Saddam had the UN bought and paid for. Scotter Ritter was paid money that he claims he returned..there was nothing tht could have been done..
June 30, 2006 - 05:05 PM on June 30th, 2006
“Clearly, a majority of Americans feel this way and have since late last year.”
Now there’s a interesting comment. Apparently when you feel (based on push polls) that the majority of Americans agree with you, why the majority is right and should get what it wants!
But when the vast majority opposes your position, as in how the vast majority wants the borders closed and illegals sent home, why suddenly that’s different! They’re wrong! They don’t understand!
June 30, 2006 - 05:54 PM on June 30th, 2006
“The way of the Left is the way of suicide for a nation.”
…or maybe the way of the Right is the way to death and dismemberment of our fighting men and women in unnecessary wars of choice over “vast” stockpiles of WMDs that were never found…
No, I’m not joking when I ask why your team hates America so much. You haven’t the foggiest clue as to how bad our nation looks right now in the eyes of the world because of the unnecessary and aggressive invasion of a country THAT DID NOT ATTACK US ON 9/11. Not sure why you still think that a nation that had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 needed to be invaded and occupied. Oh, I know why: Oil and regional hegemony. Imperialist.
Face it. Because of you and your man, we’re global thugs and were a bigger threat to peace and stability than the current terror threat. Look it up.
The way your team shakes in its boots and cowers in fear of these “terrorists” is unbecoming and quite frankly pathetic. The overreaction of the Iraq War is the United States greatest military blunder next to Vietnam.
June 30, 2006 - 05:59 PM on June 30th, 2006
SFL, your points have been debated over, and over, and over again on this board. Ad nauseum. One by one they have been answered, debunked, refuted, whatever. Yet you just keep regurgitating the same things over, and over, and over again.
Now WMD aside, and the fact that virtually every political leader on both sides of the aisle called for force to remove Saddam, and that everyone knew he had to go, and that Iraq as a U.S. ally in the heart of the terrorism beast is extremely useful, are you aware that the Gulf War actually never ended? That there was a cease-fire by agreement? Stay with me now… And that Saddam broke the agreement? And that there were 14 UN resolutions authorizing military force to enforce the agreement? Still with me? So just think of this as a continuation of the Gulf War, in the simplest terms.
Feel better now?
June 30, 2006 - 10:03 PM on June 30th, 2006
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r maybe the way of the Right is the way to death and dismemberment of our fighting men and women in unnecessary wars of choice over “vast”stockpiles of WMDs that were never found:”
Fuk you dude,,, you suck! I can’t believe you say the shit you say. You say your team is Patriotic and the right hates America? If you said shit like that in front of a soldier or two,,, and I mean some that aren’t closet homos or cowards, I would bet a months pay they would bust your fukin teeth out.
14. Robert,,, give up man, you are wasting your breath on an Idiot. Save your energy for somebody more useful.
OUT
June 30, 2006 - 11:07 PM on June 30th, 2006
I know, John, and technically you are right. But I see it as “batting practice”.
July 1, 2006 - 05:47 AM on July 1st, 2006
Sure, but not for everyone. If everything is going great with the economy, then why is the gap between rich and poor getting larger?
This is socialim’s dirty little secret. The further to the left we go the bigger that gap gets. Check out how that gap has grown since the days of FDR, check out the slums of paris. The rich will always find a way to get richer, while socialism just keeps taking away opportunities for the everyone else. I do agree that all of our elected officials need to take a severe paycut and have any future pay raises set only by a referendum of the people.
Why is the middle class getting smaller?
Again it’s the oppression of socialism and the tendency towards a directed economy. If the government would stop creating policies that squeeze the middle class it would stop shrinking.
The economy is booming, but only for a select few. The rest of us sit on the sidelines while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Oh, and the federal min. wage hasn’t been raised in nearly ten years. But Congress has given themselves raises many times since then.
Raising the minimum wage is a big part in why jobs keep getting shipped offshore. Why can’t GM compete in North America, yet it is highly competitive in the rest of the world? Raising the minimum wage is also a big part in the shrinking middle class. If you give another big increase, what do yo suppose the businesses will do? Do you think they’ll just say golly gee, I guess we’ll just absorb that loss and make less money? Of course not, they’ll pass the cost on to the consumers. Ever wonder why you can’t buy a candy bar for a dime anymore? Not too long ago it used to be labor was cheap parts were expensive, now both are expensive. Now consider who will get this wage increase. Is it people in the middle class? Nope, is it even people in the lower middle class? Nope. In fact nearly everyone gets squeezed because everything is more expensive and only a very small minority get a raise, a raise which only keeps them at pace with inflation while the rest of us now make less. Think about this for a minute, if raising the minimum wage laws are such a great idea, why not make minimum wage a million dollars an hour? Then we can all pretend to be rich for the day or so before reality sets in.
The American people smell a rat. Maybe that’s why the republican controlled congress is polling worse than Bush is. Job Approval somewhere in the 20%s.
Have you ever seen a poll for democrats in congress? The numbers are roughly the same as for republicans. Funny how the media rarely shows that poll. The American people are fed up alright, but it’s with the ineptitude of both parties.
Americas best days are behind us
On this I agree. Unles we dump the oppression of socialism and return to the policies that made this country the greatest economy the world has ever seen our best days are long gone.
July 1, 2006 - 09:41 AM on July 1st, 2006
Batting practice. Drake steps up to the plate and sends each one over the center field fence. I’d like to add a comment to one point;
Sure, but not for everyone. If everything is going great with the economy, then why is the gap between rich and poor getting larger?
What Drake said, but there is also another reason why, even after spending trillions on the “War on Poverty” and having years of opportunity and a good economy, we still have so many people below the poverty line: We keep importing poverty. Close the borders, repatriate the illegals, turn off the magnet.
Bingo. Poverty stats will drop steadily.
July 1, 2006 - 11:20 PM on July 1st, 2006
Robert there is also one other thing to consider about the Economy being great “But not for everyone”. There are actually people out there who simply do not want to work. They would much rather sit back and collect a check, food stamps, and live in a housing project than go out and work to improve themselves. As long as the productive people in this country keep raising their standard of living, those who want to sit back and live on handouts will always fall below the curve and want to know a dirty little secret? THEY DESERVE TO. I used to pass a woman who spent her entire day out panhandling. She had a tremendous work ethic for her career as a panhandler.(that’s beggar for those who don’t know what a panhandler is.) She was out there from 7 AM until after 5 PM with her plastic cup going up and down the row of cars at the traffic light begging for coins EVERY SINGLE DAY including when the temps exceeded 110 degrees. I would hazard a guess that she had some form of government check coming in, and was supplementing it not by getting a job, but by begging change from those who actually go out and produce something. Considering the rate of traffic flow through that intersection, she was probably bringing in as much as $15 – 20 an hour BEGGING! Want to know why so many are in poverty? Because they like the lack of responsibility that goes with getting a guaranteed check every month without having to actually do anything to earn it.