Comments on: I STAND WITH ISRAEL http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:16:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240956 Robert Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:22:07 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240956 <em>"This coming from a guy who thinks Hitler was a Leftist, the Iraq War is going swimmingly, and there is no such thing as Global Warming:"</em> SFL, do I have to box your ears <em>again</em>? I have posted positions by the National Socialist (NAZI)Party, which, on the balance, show Hitler to be on the Left side of the spectrum. You posted rhetoric and your opinion only. The Iraq war has its difficulties, which are being in no small part exacerbated by the American Left. My argument with you was about the contribution to Global Warming by the greenhouse effect, more specifically, the contribution of CO2 to the greenhouse effect, and precisely whether CO2 generated by human industrial activity is a contributor of any significanceto the greenhouse effect. I posted information and data from NASA, you posted a link or two and a truckload of rhetoric and opinion. Once again, you deliberately mischaracterize and misstate in order to set up a straw man that you think is clever and funny...which is why you get laughed off just about every thread here. “This coming from a guy who thinks Hitler was a Leftist, the Iraq War is going swimmingly, and there is no such thing as Global Warming:”

SFL, do I have to box your ears again?

I have posted positions by the National Socialist (NAZI)Party, which, on the balance, show Hitler to be on the Left side of the spectrum. You posted rhetoric and your opinion only.

The Iraq war has its difficulties, which are being in no small part exacerbated by the American Left.

My argument with you was about the contribution to Global Warming by the greenhouse effect, more specifically, the contribution of CO2 to the greenhouse effect, and precisely whether CO2 generated by human industrial activity is a contributor of any significanceto the greenhouse effect. I posted information and data from NASA, you posted a link or two and a truckload of rhetoric and opinion.

Once again, you deliberately mischaracterize and misstate in order to set up a straw man that you think is clever and funny…which is why you get laughed off just about every thread here.

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240949 Peejz Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:34:23 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240949 Bon Bon has been in the higher education business for the past 10+ years..I'd take her free advice!:wink: Bon Bon has been in the higher education business for the past 10+ years..I’d take her free advice!:wink:

]]> By: Eddy http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240948 Eddy Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:03:16 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240948 Was that not a better response than "Read your history!"? Was that not a better response than “Read your history!”?

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240944 Peejz Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:30:21 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240944 <strong>Eddy:.no one said Israel can do no wrong </strong> said Bon Bon at 9:25 am! Eddy:.no one said Israel can do no wrong said Bon Bon at 9:25 am!

]]> By: Eddy http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240942 Eddy Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:09:03 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240942 And of course the irony here is that no one put up rebuttal... The appropriate response from BonBon would have been something like, "Eddy, we are not turning a blind eye to Israel's sins. Israel has plenty of faults, but this is not about Israel's faults or sins, this is about a country that has taken more than any country should tolerate in terms of terrorism. Israel is not perfect, but in this conflict, Israel has done nothing but defend itself and is pursuing a permanent solution." Instead, I was asked, "Don't you care about innocent Israelis dying?... Read your history!" And of course the irony here is that no one put up rebuttal…

The appropriate response from BonBon would have been something like,
“Eddy, we are not turning a blind eye to Israel’s sins. Israel has plenty of faults, but this is not about Israel’s faults or sins, this is about a country that has taken more than any country should tolerate in terms of terrorism. Israel is not perfect, but in this conflict, Israel has done nothing but defend itself and is pursuing a permanent solution.”

Instead, I was asked, “Don’t you care about innocent Israelis dying?… Read your history!”

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240941 Peejz Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:01:56 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240941 12- First of all, it is not a sin to come in here and not stand behind Israel. Secondly, it is a sin to come in here and talk smack with nothing to back it up. San Fran comes in here all the time and is on the other end of the spectrum from most of us, but one thing we do admire is the fact that the man puts forth an arguement that he backs up with sources. Thirdly, you might want to take the time to follow what it is you respond to and what your response is! Lastly, Bon Bon responded to Alexander, to which you took issue. She then responded to you and did make a request for you to read your history. I concur! 12- First of all, it is not a sin to come in here and not stand behind Israel. Secondly, it is a sin to come in here and talk smack with nothing to back it up. San Fran comes in here all the time and is on the other end of the spectrum from most of us, but one thing we do admire is the fact that the man puts forth an arguement that he backs up with sources. Thirdly, you might want to take the time to follow what it is you respond to and what your response is!
Lastly, Bon Bon responded to Alexander, to which you took issue. She then responded to you and did make a request for you to read your history. I concur!

]]> By: Eddy http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240937 Eddy Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:49:10 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240937 Apologies to Bon bon... I did write nothing because BonBon demanded nothing. I was just pointing out why BonBon's comments were undeserved So "As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Israel can do no wrong in the eyes of pro-Israelis: Turn the blind eye to the sins of Israel:" that's the statement that requires historical evidence??? thanks for the clarity (it really was unclear from BonBon's comment)-- Anyway...ha ha ha... just read through most of the postings on this website and you'll also see that criticizing Israel is to commit the grandest of sins... Finally, this is silly. I mean, if we are going to talk about "historical evidence" then the topics should be questions like, "Why Israel deserves to exist?" "Why should the Palestinians put down their arms?" "Should Israel pull back to pre-1967 borderes?" "Was/Is Zionism moral and ethical worldview?" See my friends, those questions demand historical evidence... Apologies to Bon bon…

I did write nothing because BonBon demanded nothing. I was just pointing out why BonBon’s comments were undeserved

So “As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Israel can do no wrong in the eyes of pro-Israelis: Turn the blind eye to the sins of Israel:” that’s the statement that requires historical evidence??? thanks for the clarity (it really was unclear from BonBon’s comment)–

Anyway…ha ha ha… just read through most of the postings on this website and you’ll also see that criticizing Israel is to commit the grandest of sins…

Finally, this is silly. I mean, if we are going to talk about “historical evidence” then the topics should be questions like, “Why Israel deserves to exist?” “Why should the Palestinians put down their arms?” “Should Israel pull back to pre-1967 borderes?” “Was/Is Zionism moral and ethical worldview?”

See my friends, those questions demand historical evidence…

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240936 Peejz Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:26:12 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240936 In #7 Eddy said: <em>(Please don't patronize me: I probably could overwhelm you with <strong>historical evidence</strong>!) </em> In # 8 I told Eddy: <em>Put up or shut-up..what is your evidence? </em> In # 10 Eddy decided to write..well nothing and summarized nothing with : <em><strong>There are no questions that demand any historical evidence.</strong></em> Bon Bon is a <strong>woman</strong> You didn't disappoint me Eddy. You underwhelmed me! And you are incorrect. You made the statement in # 5: <strong>As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Israel can do no wrong in the eyes of pro-Israelis: Turn the blind eye to the sins of Israel: </strong> That statement does demand historical evidence! In #7 Eddy said: (Please don’t patronize me: I probably could overwhelm you with historical evidence!)

In # 8 I told Eddy: Put up or shut-up..what is your evidence?

In # 10 Eddy decided to write..well nothing and summarized nothing with : There are no questions that demand any historical evidence.

Bon Bon is a woman

You didn’t disappoint me Eddy. You underwhelmed me! And you are incorrect. You made the statement in # 5: As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Israel can do no wrong in the eyes of pro-Israelis: Turn the blind eye to the sins of Israel:

That statement does demand historical evidence!

]]> By: Eddy http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240934 Eddy Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:16:54 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240934 To be honest BonBon and Peejz... I have no idea what BonBon was talking about. He just said, "Read Your History". What is he referring to? I was just reponding to that. But if there are historical things he brings up (note that there is nothing 'historical' in his post). Again, it was just a cheap shot. Breakdown of BonBon: Question 1: What do you make of everything Israel has given and then to be constantly attacked by these people? Analysis: I can do nothing but make assumptions. What is everything that Israel has given? Is it land that we're talking about or free toilets? Also, who are these people who are constantly attacking? I assume Hezbollah, but then again, what has Israel given Hezbollah? If anything, Israel has probably "given" more to Palestinians, but this post is not really about Palestinians, nor any of the comments. Historical question: Not really Question 2: What would you have them do? Analysis: Question more about feeling. I can't answer it because there are too many unanswered variables in question 1 Historical Question: Nope Question 3: Don't you think they have a right to fight terrorism and defend their nation? Analysis: Again a question about feeling/emotion. Rhetorical question that demands Yes/No answer. Historical Question: Nope Question 4: Don't you even care about the innocent Israeli's who got killed? Analysis: Again a question about feeling/emotion. Rhetorical question. Historical Question: Nope There are no questions that demand any historical evidence. If you want my feelings on these questions, I can give you my feelings. BonBon just took a cheap shot with his patronizing comment. And Peejz, it sounds like you fell for it. To be honest BonBon and Peejz… I have no idea what BonBon was talking about. He just said, “Read Your History”. What is he referring to? I was just reponding to that. But if there are historical things he brings up (note that there is nothing ‘historical’ in his post). Again, it was just a cheap shot.

Breakdown of BonBon:
Question 1: What do you make of everything Israel has given and then to be constantly attacked by these people?
Analysis: I can do nothing but make assumptions. What is everything that Israel has given? Is it land that we’re talking about or free toilets? Also, who are these people who are constantly attacking? I assume Hezbollah, but then again, what has Israel given Hezbollah? If anything, Israel has probably “given” more to Palestinians, but this post is not really about Palestinians, nor any of the comments.
Historical question: Not really

Question 2: What would you have them do?
Analysis: Question more about feeling. I can’t answer it because there are too many unanswered variables in question 1
Historical Question: Nope

Question 3: Don’t you think they have a right to fight terrorism and defend their nation?
Analysis: Again a question about feeling/emotion. Rhetorical question that demands Yes/No answer.
Historical Question: Nope

Question 4: Don’t you even care about the innocent Israeli’s who got killed?
Analysis: Again a question about feeling/emotion. Rhetorical question.
Historical Question: Nope

There are no questions that demand any historical evidence. If you want my feelings on these questions, I can give you my feelings. BonBon just took a cheap shot with his patronizing comment. And Peejz, it sounds like you fell for it.

]]> By: San Francisco Liberal http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-240927 San Francisco Liberal Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:18:35 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/07/30/i-stand-with-israel/#comment-240927 <em>"Don't waste your time posting such nonsense here. The posters here know far too much about history, about reality, for you to make any headway." </em> This coming from a guy who thinks Hitler was a <em>Leftist</em>, the Iraq War is going swimmingly, and there is no such thing as Global Warming... :lol: yeeeah... “Don’t waste your time posting such nonsense here. The posters here know far too much about history, about reality, for you to make any headway.”

This coming from a guy who thinks Hitler was a Leftist, the Iraq War is going swimmingly, and there is no such thing as Global Warming…

:lol:

yeeeah…

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