SF: When did 9/11 become a laughing matter?
This comes via Michelle and is dedicated to SF!
These stills are from a BBC comedy called “Time Trumpet” (big hat tip – Steve J). The show features a satirical “Terrorism Awards” show with nominees including a “lone gunman” who shoots Tony Blair in the head as he sleeps with his wife; a 9/11-style video of terrorists crashing an airliner into the Houses of Parliament; and a Tel Aviv suicide bombing.
We are a month away from the five-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. I still pause, once a day, to think about what happened and how it has changed my outlook on life. How it has opened my eyes to the evils of jihad. How it has changed the focus of my work. How it affects my children. How it affects us all. Every so often, when I’m in Washington, D.C., and a plane flies low on its way to Dulles or Reagan Airport, I catch my breath. And I remember. I cannot fathom how the BBC, the once-revered British network of supposedly serious journalists, could pull a sick stunt like this. The Guardian blog quotes a haughty BBC spokesperson shrugging off any criticism:
“The clips have to be seen in the context of the whole series,” said a BBC spokeswoman. The show begins on BBC2 this Thursday, with the terrorism episode scheduled for week three. “It is a satire. The scenarios are so ludicrous that anyone who complained would be making a fool of themselves.”
The Daily Mail has reaction from MPs on both sides of the aisle:
The satire is the work of Armando Iannucci, who wrote the award-winning recent Whitehall comedy The Thick of It and was the co-creator of Steve Coogan’s alter ego Alan Partridge.
Although Iannucci is known for his subtle parodies on the news and media – he produced The Day Today and On The Hour – his latest offering has provoked outrage from MPs of all sides. Andrew Dismore, Labour MP for Hendon, said it was ‘absolutely sick.’‘At a time when people are dying for real on both sides in the Middle East, to try and make fun of what’s going on is the worst thing imaginable.
‘Nothing is more sick than attempting to make a joke out of people who are dying. It’s beyond the pale.’
‘The BBC governors should do something to stop this. And the fact that it could have been given approval by the BBC’s editorial board is simply disgraceful.’
David Davies, Tory MP for Monmouth, said: ‘It shows a distinct lack of taste and could even exacerbate the suffering of the July 7th bombing victims.
‘The BBC receives a large amount of taxpayers’ money and has a duty to use it responsibly. I can’t see much comedy value in this at a time when all of us are at risk from terrorism.’
August 3, 2006 - 09:54 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“When did 9/11 become a laughing matter?”
I don’t know…about three years ago, maybe?
August 3, 2006 - 09:59 AM on August 3rd, 2006
It’s really quite unbelievable that you would even joke about this San Fran. Or maybe I should just assume you really do find it funny. You certainly don’t seem to think America being attacked is cause for alarm.
Why oh why don’t you people who place so much blame on America, who laugh in our face, who deny the dangers we face, just leave the country? Go away…..we don’t want you here.
August 3, 2006 - 10:23 AM on August 3rd, 2006
Hey BonBon, news flash: people have been joking about 9/11 and satirizing it for years now.
satire: “human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.”
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And “we’re” not going anywhere…at least, not until we bring America back up from the dark depths of the sewer that your teams aggressive and obnoxious political ideology has brought us all down into.
August 3, 2006 - 10:29 AM on August 3rd, 2006
Well knock me over the head San Fran….I guess I don’t have a sense of humor. I just don’t find 9/11 funny in any way, shape or form. I saw it coming years before it happened because of YOUR parties political ideology that entailed ignoring the problem to begin with.
It was the wrong path to follow. Bush may have made some mistakes but at least he’s pro active in fighting terrorism.
All your criticisms are about how he chose to fight rather than offering up other solutions besides sitting on one’s ass and doing nothing.
If you liberals actually had something constructive to offer it would first of all surprise the hell out of me but we would listen. We really would. But we have to fight it.
And we should never laugh at it.
Sick, just sick.
August 3, 2006 - 10:34 AM on August 3rd, 2006
3-Who has been joking about 9/11?
And “we’re”not going anywhere:at least, not until we bring America back up from the dark depths of the sewer that your teams aggressive and obnoxious political ideology has brought us all down into. I think you mean Kos, DD, Soros, Air America, Daschle, just to name a few!
August 3, 2006 - 10:36 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“Bush may have made some mistakes but at least he’s pro active in fighting terrorism.”
Yeah, he’s “proactively” making things worse and creating more terrorists.
August 3, 2006 - 10:39 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“The question whether humor after and about 9/11 is a possibility seems a difficult one only on first sight. The reality is, humor was present immediately after the first shock had worn off, and it is still widespread today.
Of course, it is always a difference whether you joke with friends or in public. Especially the major TV stations had the in some way awful responsibility to decide when joking was “okay” again. Entertainers were always in that situation, it is their job. Charlie Chaplin ridiculed Hitler in his 1940 Great Dictator, and Roberto Benigni managed the stunt to do slapstick in a concentration camp in his 1997 La Vita è Bella. Both movies were nominated for or won numerous awards, including the Academy Award.
What is the function of this? Laughing in the face of something terrible lessens its horror, as well as laughing at enemies lessens their power. And breaking the tabu of laughing, shattering the silence, gives people back some power to articulate their feelings and fears.”
August 3, 2006 - 10:47 AM on August 3rd, 2006
Yeah, he’s “proactively”making things worse and creating more terrorists. Which terrorist organization has developed since 9/11?
August 3, 2006 - 10:58 AM on August 3rd, 2006
Yeah Peejz….Good point. I was sitting here the whole time thinking about how many terrorists are dead or captured, many thanks to the actions of the Bush Administration.
I remember SNL had a show planned for the Saturday after 9/11 and they decided to run with it. They did and it was an okay thing for them to do. But they didn’t joke about the attack and in fact they had a moment of silence and dedication to the deceased.
Bottom line is you don’t joke about something this horrible. No….Matter….WHAT.
Who gives a crap about these awards anyway. It’s just Hollywood patting itself on the back.
August 3, 2006 - 11:23 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“Which terrorist organization has developed since 9/11?”
Q. Which terrorist organizations have INCREASED THEIR RANKS since the invasion and occupation of Iraq?
A. Nearly all of them.
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Shouldn’t your wars and bombs be frightening them away from radicalism? Why is it making them MORE radical?
Something with your strategy isn’t working…
August 3, 2006 - 11:27 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“Bottom line is you don’t joke about something this horrible. No:.Matter:.WHAT.”
That’s crap.
“Charlie Chaplin ridiculed Hitler in his 1940 Great Dictator, and Roberto Benigni managed the stunt to do slapstick in a concentration camp in his 1997 La Vita è Bella (Life is Beautiful). Both movies were nominated for or won numerous awards, including the Academy Award.”
“Laughing in the face of something terrible lessens its horror, as well as laughing at enemies lessens their power. And breaking the tabu of laughing, shattering the silence, gives people back some power to articulate their feelings and fears.”
August 3, 2006 - 11:27 AM on August 3rd, 2006
it’s not creating more, it’s just bringing them out of the woodwork….so that we may kill them.
August 3, 2006 - 11:31 AM on August 3rd, 2006
“it’s not creating more, it’s just bringing them out of the woodwork:.so that we may kill them.”
No, it’s creating more. You kill one, two more will take his place.
Cycle..of..violence.
August 3, 2006 - 11:36 AM on August 3rd, 2006
10- So there isn’t a new terrorist organization since 9/11. And since the terrorists don’t have rosters of members, you can not provide a link of the new members can you?
August 3, 2006 - 11:51 AM on August 3rd, 2006
SF…HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS???
Pay attention:
These animals have been killing for decades, we didnt’ start it…..
if we put our tail between our legs, pull our troops out and do absolutely nothing…guess what
THEY WILL KEEP RIGHT ON KILLING!!!!
what part of that do you not understand?
August 3, 2006 - 12:12 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“So there isn’t a new terrorist organization since 9/11. And since the terrorists don’t have rosters of members, you can not provide a link of the new members can you?”
Of course there isn’t a link on terror group “membership”, could you provide a link showing that we’re killing more terrorists than we’re creating? I doubt it.
If you want proof that they are being successful recruiting more terrorists, look no further than Iraq and to the occupied territories in Israel and to Afghanistan, etc.
Radicalism is on the rise. NOT on a downward slope, and we’ve been at the War on Terror and Iraq for 5 years now.
Here is link showing terror attacks have increased, from a State Dept. report last year.
It’s old news, but some people need reminding.
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And actually, Peejz, there are many terrorist organization created after 9/11. Guess where?
Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html
August 3, 2006 - 12:13 PM on August 3rd, 2006
oops…that WaPo link isn’t supposed to be there at the bottom.
ops:
August 3, 2006 - 12:15 PM on August 3rd, 2006
gee that’s interesting, SF because the Iraqi PM said he is confident that they will have a full police / army in place and have terrorism eradicated by the end of this year.
boy, that would suck for you, wouldn’t it?
August 3, 2006 - 12:17 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“THEY WILL KEEP RIGHT ON KILLING!!!!”
…and so we keep on killing…and on and on and on and on and on and on…
cycle..of..violence
you hit them, they hit you, you hit them again, they hit you back…
“what part of that do you not understand?”
August 3, 2006 - 12:21 PM on August 3rd, 2006
19. Well you know San Fran….if you want to stop killing why don’t you go over there and tell them that for gosh sakes.
We could also employ the technique you seem to love. Just look at them and yell stop. That’ll do it.
August 3, 2006 - 12:22 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“gee that’s interesting, SF because the Iraqi PM said he is confident that they will have a full police / army in place and have terrorism eradicated by the end of this year.”
Gee, that would be great.
…but you don’t ACTUALLY believe that do you?
Kind of like how the insurgency has been in it’s last throes for the last 2 years?
…or how Iraq has “turned a corner”?
…or just “another 6 months” and things will be better?
Please. Iraq is LOST. give it up. learn from your mistakes and move forward.
August 3, 2006 - 12:26 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“Well you know San Fran:.if you want to stop killing why don’t you go over there and tell them that for gosh sakes.”
And you know I was thinking, and if you’re really so pro-war and gung-ho…why don’t you send your children to Iraq? Or maybe your brothers or sisters kids too…
Take the fight to the enemy…begining with your kids!
How about that?
August 3, 2006 - 12:41 PM on August 3rd, 2006
Any sadistic monster who thinks this is funny should have a crowd of the 9/11 victims go there with tourches and pitch forks and lynch the rotten scoundrels:mad:
August 3, 2006 - 12:52 PM on August 3rd, 2006
22. That’s why we have the U.S. military. To do the defending of America for us. They are young men and women who voluntarily sign up for service knowing full well what could happen. We cannot say the same for the 9/11 victims.
I am not pro-war. I am pro DEFENSE however and I am tired of seeing the United States attacked.
I support our country and the troops who defend it.
August 3, 2006 - 02:59 PM on August 3rd, 2006
SF: When did 9/11 become a laughing matter?
nice..
August 3, 2006 - 03:02 PM on August 3rd, 2006
What is the new terrorist organization in Iraq? the article didn’t mention a new one. It showed the increase in attacks.
August 3, 2006 - 03:03 PM on August 3rd, 2006
as an addition to 25..it showed an increase in attacks in a war zone
August 3, 2006 - 03:22 PM on August 3rd, 2006
Let me help SF Liberal elaborate on his claim that the war on terror as managed by Bush has actually increased the ranks of the terrorists. Here’s his proof:
Everybody knows it, it is accepted in the Mainstream Media, accepted in Academia, that’s just the way it is. You are on the fring minority that doesn’t accept it when the whole world knows it is so. That’s just the way it is!
August 3, 2006 - 03:35 PM on August 3rd, 2006
Peejz, that article is evidence that terror attacks have risen, not declined, with Bush at the helm of world events…there wasn’t supposed to be anything in there about terror groups in Iraq.
That’s why I said “oops” in #17…that link shouldn’t have been associated with what I said about new terror groups in Iraq.
As for which terror groups there are in Iraq, you’re asking me to list them???
August 3, 2006 - 03:36 PM on August 3rd, 2006
And when you ask me to list the terror groups in Iraq, do you want Sunni, Kurd or Shiite?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re getting at.
Are you saying that there are no terrorist groups in Iraq?
August 3, 2006 - 03:39 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“Let me help SF Liberal elaborate on his claim that the war on terror as managed by Bush has actually increased the ranks of the terrorists.”
Uhhhh…Robert, did you even look at the link I posted about the State Department study showing an increase in terror attacks?
It’s not a “claim”…it’s a fact – and it’s backed up by the United States Government.
What do YOU have that says otherwise?
August 3, 2006 - 03:41 PM on August 3rd, 2006
28- But I thought your side claimed there were no terror groups in Iraq? In fact there was no correlation between terror groups and Iraq..now all of a sudden there are terro groups?
Um, I think you forgot about the terrorist that slaughtered all those Kurds in Iraq!
August 3, 2006 - 03:48 PM on August 3rd, 2006
OOhhh…you’re asking what terror groups were in Iraq BEFORE the invasion?
I’m talking about AFTER the invasion…not before.
August 3, 2006 - 03:53 PM on August 3rd, 2006
Either way there are more terrorist attacks in Iraq because that’s where we are fighting them.
We didn’t listen when jihad was declared on us and so their attacks escalated until we DID listen to them. We took out one of their state sponsors (that would be Saddam) and they all started coming out of the woodwork. Having been trained in terrorist tactics they are able to put up quite a fight.
Now, my question is would you rather fight them here or over there? Unfortunately the victims of 9/11 don’t have a say but if they I’m sure they would vote for over there.
August 3, 2006 - 05:39 PM on August 3rd, 2006
Only in the warped, diseased, twisted mind of the Liberal could an attack on the U.S., especially as horrific as the 9/11 attack, be funny. I know that comic relief has its place, its value. But not all the time, not in every situation. Laughing about 9/11 is like someone pulling a practical joke on some parents just after they have been told their child is dying of cancer.
Real funny…NOT.
I have been asserting for some time that Liberalism is a form of mental illness. The anecdotal evidence is mounting. There may be more evidence of it at this point than for the hypothesis that human activity is measurably exacerbating global warming.
August 3, 2006 - 05:48 PM on August 3rd, 2006
San Francisco Liberal, please…they are not “terror groups”. They are Freedom Fighters, resisting the occupation of the imperialist capitalist war mongers and their running dogs. Let’s keep our terminology on track here, okay?
I know we’re on the same side, your intentions are good, and your heart is in the right place. But we must stick to the manifesto, we must stay in synch.
August 3, 2006 - 06:32 PM on August 3rd, 2006
“And “we’re”not going anywhere:at least, not until we bring America back up from the dark depths of the sewer that your teams aggressive and obnoxious political ideology has brought us all down into”
Yes! Let’s return to the days of wine and roses! When we effectively ignored terrorism while attacking former allies and partied away even as Islamofascism declared war! Let’s return to the days of the bubble economy, tax increases, blowjobs, freebies for Enron, pardons for cash, and Clero masturbating as America’s security burned, selling missile guidance technology to the Red Chinese, motel 1600, disgrace and degradation!
Yes! That was just sooo appealing, wasn’t it SFL!
Those were the days, my friend, we thought they’d never end…
August 3, 2006 - 10:09 PM on August 3rd, 2006
#30 SFL: “Uhhhh:Robert, did you even look at the link I posted about the State Department study showing an increase in terror attacks?
It’s not a “claimâ€:it’s a fact – and it’s backed up by the United States Government.
What do YOU have that says otherwise? ”
Once again, you try to change the argument midstream because you cannot defend your original position.
The issue was (and which is what my post addressed) whether Bush policy in the war on terror has actually increased the numbers of terrorists by helping their recruiting. You asserted it has, but with no backing evidence. When asked to do so, you ignored it and switched the argument to “the number of terror attacks” and glibly posted your link to that stat.
Sorry, our judges say that’s not okay. Error, violation, divide by zero, danger Will Robinson.
Back to the original point: That the Bush policies in the WOT have increased the ranks of the jihadists to more than replace those we have killed. Having been unable to back that up and instead pulling the switcheroo, you lose the argument by default.
Batter up!!!
August 4, 2006 - 10:11 AM on August 4th, 2006
“I have been asserting for some time that Liberalism is a form of mental illness. The anecdotal evidence is mounting.”
Dude, how f*cking old are you??
Seriously.
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Now, regarding increase in terror attacks and increase in terror ranks…
Ummmm…are you saying you don’t see a correlation between the two?
Are you saying that, yes, there is an increase of the last few years in terror attacks, but the ranks of terrorists are actually shrinking???
Does that really make sense to you, Robert?
“Batter Up”, Fool.
August 4, 2006 - 10:27 AM on August 4th, 2006
A correlation is proven, you simpleton. Not guessed at. Not imagined. Look up the definition, you klown.
You are simply not equipped to debate in this venue, SFL. You do not have the experience, the knowledge, the wisdom, or the reasoning skills to compete effectively in this arena of ideas and discussion.
I am growing tired of bantering with you. Boxing your ears repeatedly is growing wearisome. Hitting your 55 MPH “fastballs” out of the park is no longer as entertaining as it once was. You have become very predictable, resorting to the same hackneyed techniques that break the rules of debate.
You are either a clever troll, jerking our chains, or a dedicated, militant idiot. Whatever, I no longer care.
August 4, 2006 - 10:37 AM on August 4th, 2006
Ahhh….poor wittle wobert got his feewings hurt!
Sounds like you’re having a little tantrum and lashing out…so sad.
Before you go take your ball and leave while crying, could you please answer my question?
Are you saying that, yes, there is an increase of the last few years in terror attacks, but the ranks of terrorists are actually shrinking???
August 4, 2006 - 10:47 AM on August 4th, 2006
“A correlation is proven, you simpleton. Not guessed at. Not imagined. Look up the definition, you klown.”
cor·re·la·tion – A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime.
August 4, 2006 - 10:48 AM on August 4th, 2006
Pathetic, SFL. I guess I should call you an ignorant fuck, use language you would understand? Because even though that is just one of many ways to describe you, I haven’t sunk to your level and see no need to.
And you flatter yourself. You think that somehow I will not visit RV any more, will not post my opinion? Because of you? WRONG again, as usual. I will no longer waste my time countering your every moronic post. Someone else will have to take up the cudgel if they so choose. You are beyond help, hopelessly mired in Leftist religious doctrine.
And I will simply say that every time a terrorist is killed, there is one less terrorist. The elegant simplicity of that logic will no doubt escape you.
Whether we must kill 1,000 terrorists, one million, or one billion, it needs to be done.
August 4, 2006 - 11:23 AM on August 4th, 2006
home run again robert!
You shouldn’t waste your time attempting to refute SF’s logic..he has none. His logic can be broken down as follows.
America bad
Republican bad
Muslims oppressed
Jews bad
August 4, 2006 - 11:23 AM on August 4th, 2006
Ok, little man.
Keep on keeping on…
August 4, 2006 - 11:35 AM on August 4th, 2006
Thanks, Mike. You summarized SFL’s reality filter very concisely.
i guess I shouldn’t be surprised any more, since there are so many, but it still amazes me than any American can consistently rush to judgment against America so quickly. Always pick apart everything America does, looking for and emphasizing the negative. Doing everything they can to uplift our enemies, further their cause. But we see them all the time, including Congress.
In better times haters of America would know enough to keep their hatred to themselves because America wouldn’t put up with it. Now, perhaps due to about 40 years of dumbing down in the public schools, the infiltration of Leftists into Academia, and constant propaganda from the MSM, many Americans have lost the ability to think for themselves, to evaluate the news and information they get and filter out the bs and propaganda themselves.
Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don’t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don’t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years by the Leftist academics. Spouting talking points and left religious dogma.
Sometimes I wonder whether America as we know it and love it will survive all this…
August 4, 2006 - 11:40 AM on August 4th, 2006
“…You shouldn’t waste your time attempting to refute SF’s logic…”
So, let me get this straight.
You guys are frustrated that you can’t bully or bash me into submission, and you’re upset that I have strong opinions and post them here?
…and you don’t like having your opinions challenged or your statements questioned by someone with a different point of view??
Wow. That’s pretty weak. Maybe you guys just need to try harder, or present better arguments if you want to convince me of something.
August 4, 2006 - 11:45 AM on August 4th, 2006
“Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don’t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don’t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years….”
No shit. We say the SAME thing about some of you guys!
Go figure.
August 4, 2006 - 11:57 AM on August 4th, 2006
Mike, here’s my concept of an example of an argument SFL would probably find convincing (he’ll probably wet his pants just reading it):
America for years has been the bully of the planet! Crushing promising young nations like Sandinista Nicaragua even as the U.S. props up the aggressive Zionist state! Yes, America must remove the log from its own eye before pointing to the speck in the eye of the Palestinians, the Iranians, the Wahabi Islamists!
Only by addressing global poverty, ensuring justice, and stopping Global Warming can the U.S. hope to make any progress toward Global Peace.
Think globally, act locally! Visualize world peace! No justice, no peace! NO war for oil! Bring it all down, man! Hillary in 2008! IT’S FOR THE CHILDREN!
August 4, 2006 - 12:05 PM on August 4th, 2006
not even close.
Gosh, wouldn’t it be great if you stuck to representing your own ideology, speaking like an adult would to other adults, and not resorting to lame attacks on the speaker, instead of the topic at hand??
Is that really too much to ask of you?
would it help if I asked “please”?
August 4, 2006 - 12:11 PM on August 4th, 2006
I think alot of what the arguments boil down to is that we on the conservative side feel that America is not to be blamed. The middle east is and always has been a hotbed of terror and uncertainty. Americans with their love of oil has made alot of countries rich. Because of this we are both loved and hated but always needed.
There are those in the muslim world who think we are to blame for their societies ills but Americans would be wise to overlook that blame and also not try to point fingers inward. Their societies have failed to advance because they refuse to let their culture advance. When you have laws that say a husband or other male in the household can kill a woman if she goes outside without a head covering pretty much says it all. Repressive doesn’t even begin to describe it.
After 9/11 I for one and I’m sure many others thought this would be the catalyst that would bring Americans together because we shared a common cause. That cause being the elimination of terrorist networks worldwide.
I think it is shocking for some that this hasn’t been the case and in fact has in some ways actually divided Americans even further. This, I’m sure, is considered by the radicals as a success.
Blaming America is not the answer. Blaming the President or the Congress is not the answer. The answer lies in strategies, techniques and the use of all manner of technology available.
But one thing is absolutely clear. Without the elimination of terrorism from civilized society, we will all lose.
August 4, 2006 - 06:09 PM on August 4th, 2006
BonBon, I think you have very good points that you stated succinctly. Well done.
August 26, 2006 - 06:31 AM on August 26th, 2006
This is all very interesting. I find in amazing that people in certain areas of America still think that the war of terror can (a) be won and (b) that American foreign policy is helping that.
The ‘war on terror’ is a metaphysical concept and treats terrorism like a homogeneous mass. Kill Osma Bin Laden and someone will take his place. Terrorism will always be here and as long as America keep interfering badly (Reagan playing middle east war games with Iran & Iraq in the 1980s and the CIA ousting democratically elected South American leaders are two examples which spring to mind) then it will just get worse.
I find the idea from the Iraqi PM that terrorism will be “eradicated by the end of this year” as laughable as the Iraqi WMD (found ‘em yet GWB?). If the liberating American troops hadn’t disbanded the Iraqi Army and Police once they had control, they would’ve been able to deal with the insurgents far more easily.
But with Iraq on the brink of civil war, people dying daily and Sharia law being introduced by local ‘elected’ warlords around Iraq, I dont hold out much hope. And of course there are more potential terrorists now than pre 9/11. 100,000 Iraqis have been accidentally killed by the allies since the start of the war. Not everyone is happy about this ‘liberation’. That means 100,000 angry families. The potential terrorists unwittingly recruited to fight the West is, one suspects, rather high.
Bon bon is right, though. America has a vested interest in the middle east as long as their oil is still needed. The solution? considering oil is running out, perhaps is now the time to start to switch to nuclear power, with a few wind farms thrown in?
September 1, 2006 - 04:14 AM on September 1st, 2006
“We had solved the problem of the enemy flying planes into buildings, but no one expected terrorists to fly two buildings into the sides of planes…”
Time Trumpet is classic satire. I’d reccommend watching the series via Bitorrent.