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	<title>Comments on: SF: When did 9/11 become a laughing matter?</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-2/#comment-247052</link>
		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We had solved the problem of the enemy flying planes into buildings, but no one expected terrorists to fly two buildings into the sides of planes...&quot;

Time Trumpet is classic satire. I&#039;d reccommend watching the series via Bitorrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We had solved the problem of the enemy flying planes into buildings, but no one expected terrorists to fly two buildings into the sides of planes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Time Trumpet is classic satire. I&#8217;d reccommend watching the series via Bitorrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Battersea</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-2/#comment-245982</link>
		<dc:creator>Battersea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very interesting. I find in amazing that people in certain areas of America still think that the war of terror can (a) be won and (b) that American foreign policy is helping that.

The &#039;war on terror&#039; is a metaphysical concept and treats terrorism like a homogeneous mass. Kill Osma Bin Laden and someone will take his place. Terrorism will always be here and as long as America keep interfering badly (Reagan playing middle east war games with Iran &amp; Iraq in the 1980s and the CIA ousting democratically elected South American leaders are two examples which spring to mind) then it will just get worse.

I find the idea from the Iraqi PM that terrorism will be &quot;eradicated by the end of this year&quot; as laughable as the Iraqi WMD (found &#039;em yet GWB?). If the liberating American troops hadn&#039;t disbanded the Iraqi Army and Police once they had control, they would&#039;ve been able to deal with the insurgents far more easily. 

But with Iraq on the brink of civil war, people dying daily and Sharia law being introduced by local &#039;elected&#039; warlords around Iraq, I dont hold out much hope. And of course there are more potential terrorists now than pre 9/11. 100,000 Iraqis have been accidentally killed by the allies since the start of the war. Not everyone is happy about this &#039;liberation&#039;. That means 100,000 angry families. The potential terrorists unwittingly recruited to fight the  West is, one suspects, rather high.   

Bon bon is right, though. America has a vested interest in the middle east as long as their oil is still needed. The solution? considering oil is running out, perhaps is now the time to start to switch to nuclear power, with a few wind farms thrown in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very interesting. I find in amazing that people in certain areas of America still think that the war of terror can (a) be won and (b) that American foreign policy is helping that.</p>
<p>The &#8216;war on terror&#8217; is a metaphysical concept and treats terrorism like a homogeneous mass. Kill Osma Bin Laden and someone will take his place. Terrorism will always be here and as long as America keep interfering badly (Reagan playing middle east war games with Iran &amp; Iraq in the 1980s and the CIA ousting democratically elected South American leaders are two examples which spring to mind) then it will just get worse.</p>
<p>I find the idea from the Iraqi PM that terrorism will be &#8220;eradicated by the end of this year&#8221; as laughable as the Iraqi WMD (found &#8216;em yet GWB?). If the liberating American troops hadn&#8217;t disbanded the Iraqi Army and Police once they had control, they would&#8217;ve been able to deal with the insurgents far more easily. </p>
<p>But with Iraq on the brink of civil war, people dying daily and Sharia law being introduced by local &#8216;elected&#8217; warlords around Iraq, I dont hold out much hope. And of course there are more potential terrorists now than pre 9/11. 100,000 Iraqis have been accidentally killed by the allies since the start of the war. Not everyone is happy about this &#8216;liberation&#8217;. That means 100,000 angry families. The potential terrorists unwittingly recruited to fight the  West is, one suspects, rather high.   </p>
<p>Bon bon is right, though. America has a vested interest in the middle east as long as their oil is still needed. The solution? considering oil is running out, perhaps is now the time to start to switch to nuclear power, with a few wind farms thrown in?</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-2/#comment-241511</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BonBon, I think you have very good points that you stated succinctly.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BonBon, I think you have very good points that you stated succinctly.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: BonBon</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-2/#comment-241491</link>
		<dc:creator>BonBon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think alot of what the arguments boil down to is that we on the conservative side feel that America is not to be blamed.  The middle east is and always has been a hotbed of terror and uncertainty.  Americans with their love of oil has made alot of countries rich.  Because of this we are both loved and hated but always needed.

There are those in the muslim world who think we are to blame for their societies ills but Americans would be wise to overlook that blame and also not try to point fingers inward.  Their societies have failed to advance because they refuse to let their culture advance.  When you have laws that say a husband or other male in the household can kill a woman if she goes outside without a head covering pretty much says it all.  Repressive doesn&#039;t even begin to describe it. 

After 9/11 I for one and I&#039;m sure many others thought this would be the catalyst that would bring Americans together because we shared a common cause.  That cause being the elimination of terrorist networks worldwide.

I think it is shocking for some that this hasn&#039;t been the case and in fact has in some ways actually divided Americans even further.  This, I&#039;m sure, is considered by the radicals as a success.  

Blaming America is not the answer.  Blaming the President or the Congress is not the answer.  The answer lies in strategies, techniques and the use of all manner of technology available.  

But one thing is absolutely clear.  Without the elimination of terrorism from civilized society, we will all lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think alot of what the arguments boil down to is that we on the conservative side feel that America is not to be blamed.  The middle east is and always has been a hotbed of terror and uncertainty.  Americans with their love of oil has made alot of countries rich.  Because of this we are both loved and hated but always needed.</p>
<p>There are those in the muslim world who think we are to blame for their societies ills but Americans would be wise to overlook that blame and also not try to point fingers inward.  Their societies have failed to advance because they refuse to let their culture advance.  When you have laws that say a husband or other male in the household can kill a woman if she goes outside without a head covering pretty much says it all.  Repressive doesn&#8217;t even begin to describe it. </p>
<p>After 9/11 I for one and I&#8217;m sure many others thought this would be the catalyst that would bring Americans together because we shared a common cause.  That cause being the elimination of terrorist networks worldwide.</p>
<p>I think it is shocking for some that this hasn&#8217;t been the case and in fact has in some ways actually divided Americans even further.  This, I&#8217;m sure, is considered by the radicals as a success.  </p>
<p>Blaming America is not the answer.  Blaming the President or the Congress is not the answer.  The answer lies in strategies, techniques and the use of all manner of technology available.  </p>
<p>But one thing is absolutely clear.  Without the elimination of terrorism from civilized society, we will all lose.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-241488</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not even close.

:roll:

Gosh, wouldn&#039;t it be great if you stuck to &lt;strong&gt;representing your own ideology&lt;/strong&gt;, speaking like an adult would to other adults, and not resorting to lame attacks on the speaker, instead of the topic at hand??

Is that really too much to ask of you?

would it help if I asked &quot;please&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not even close.</p>
<p> <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gosh, wouldn&#8217;t it be great if you stuck to <strong>representing your own ideology</strong>, speaking like an adult would to other adults, and not resorting to lame attacks on the speaker, instead of the topic at hand??</p>
<p>Is that really too much to ask of you?</p>
<p>would it help if I asked &#8220;please&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-241483</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, here&#039;s my concept of an example of an argument SFL would probably find convincing (he&#039;ll probably wet his pants just reading it):

America for years has been the bully of the planet! Crushing promising young nations like Sandinista Nicaragua even as the U.S. props up the aggressive Zionist state! Yes, America must remove the log from its own eye before pointing to the speck in the eye of the Palestinians, the Iranians, the Wahabi Islamists!

Only by addressing global poverty, ensuring justice, and stopping Global Warming can the U.S. hope to make any progress toward Global Peace.

Think globally, act locally! Visualize world peace! No justice, no peace! NO war for oil! Bring it all down, man! Hillary in 2008! IT&#039;S FOR THE CHILDREN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, here&#8217;s my concept of an example of an argument SFL would probably find convincing (he&#8217;ll probably wet his pants just reading it):</p>
<p>America for years has been the bully of the planet! Crushing promising young nations like Sandinista Nicaragua even as the U.S. props up the aggressive Zionist state! Yes, America must remove the log from its own eye before pointing to the speck in the eye of the Palestinians, the Iranians, the Wahabi Islamists!</p>
<p>Only by addressing global poverty, ensuring justice, and stopping Global Warming can the U.S. hope to make any progress toward Global Peace.</p>
<p>Think globally, act locally! Visualize world peace! No justice, no peace! NO war for oil! Bring it all down, man! Hillary in 2008! IT&#8217;S FOR THE CHILDREN!</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-241482</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don&#039;t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don&#039;t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years....&quot;



&lt;strong&gt;No shit.  We say the SAME thing about some of you guys!&lt;/strong&gt;

Go figure.

:roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don&#8217;t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don&#8217;t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>No shit.  We say the SAME thing about some of you guys!</strong></p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
<p> <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-241481</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...You shouldn&#039;t waste your time attempting to refute SF&#039;s logic...&quot;



So, let me get this straight.

You guys are frustrated that you can&#039;t bully or bash me into submission, and you&#039;re upset that I have strong opinions and post them here?

...and you don&#039;t like having your opinions challenged or your statements questioned by someone with a different point of view??

Wow. That&#039;s pretty weak.  Maybe you guys just need to try harder, or present better arguments if you want to convince me of something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;You shouldn&#8217;t waste your time attempting to refute SF&#8217;s logic&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So, let me get this straight.</p>
<p>You guys are frustrated that you can&#8217;t bully or bash me into submission, and you&#8217;re upset that I have strong opinions and post them here?</p>
<p>&#8230;and you don&#8217;t like having your opinions challenged or your statements questioned by someone with a different point of view??</p>
<p>Wow. That&#8217;s pretty weak.  Maybe you guys just need to try harder, or present better arguments if you want to convince me of something.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/08/03/sf-when-did-911-become-a-laughing-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-241480</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mike. You summarized SFL&#039;s reality filter very concisely. 

i guess I shouldn&#039;t be surprised any more, since there are so many, but it still amazes me than any American can consistently rush to judgment against America so quickly. Always pick apart everything America does, looking for and emphasizing the negative. Doing everything they can to uplift our enemies, further their cause. But we see them all the time, including Congress.

In better times haters of America would know enough to keep their hatred to themselves because America wouldn&#039;t put up with it. Now, perhaps due to about 40 years of dumbing down in the public schools, the infiltration of Leftists into Academia, and constant propaganda from the MSM, many Americans have lost the ability to think for themselves, to evaluate the news and information they get and filter out the bs and propaganda themselves.

Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don&#039;t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don&#039;t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years by the Leftist academics. Spouting talking points and left religious dogma.

Sometimes I wonder whether America as we know it and love it will survive all this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mike. You summarized SFL&#8217;s reality filter very concisely. </p>
<p>i guess I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised any more, since there are so many, but it still amazes me than any American can consistently rush to judgment against America so quickly. Always pick apart everything America does, looking for and emphasizing the negative. Doing everything they can to uplift our enemies, further their cause. But we see them all the time, including Congress.</p>
<p>In better times haters of America would know enough to keep their hatred to themselves because America wouldn&#8217;t put up with it. Now, perhaps due to about 40 years of dumbing down in the public schools, the infiltration of Leftists into Academia, and constant propaganda from the MSM, many Americans have lost the ability to think for themselves, to evaluate the news and information they get and filter out the bs and propaganda themselves.</p>
<p>Hence we have young, idealistic, empty-headed people liie SFL going around brimming with confidence that they have some superior intellect, when they actually don&#8217;t even have the self-awareness to realize what they don&#8217;t know. Regurgitating nonsense systematically programmed into their brains over years by the Leftist academics. Spouting talking points and left religious dogma.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder whether America as we know it and love it will survive all this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, little man.

Keep on keeping on...

:roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, little man.</p>
<p>Keep on keeping on&#8230;</p>
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