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	<title>Comments on: Did ABC Edit &#8220;The Path to 9/11?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247677</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:roll:</description>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247673</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely not.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247671</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peejz, there never was a moment in real life where our troops were &lt;strong&gt;poised on the ground&lt;/strong&gt;, as depicted in the movie, moments away from moving in and capturing OBL.

&lt;strong&gt;Creating &lt;/strong&gt;a scene where troops ARE poised on the ground moments away from capturing OBL is distorting reality.

Can you agree with me on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peejz, there never was a moment in real life where our troops were <strong>poised on the ground</strong>, as depicted in the movie, moments away from moving in and capturing OBL.</p>
<p><strong>Creating </strong>a scene where troops ARE poised on the ground moments away from capturing OBL is distorting reality.</p>
<p>Can you agree with me on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247660</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>distortions? Hardly, based on what you have said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>distortions? Hardly, based on what you have said!</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247657</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said; &lt;strong&gt;&quot;so what&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; if the filmakers use distortions or artistic license...IT&#039;S JUST A MOVIE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said; <strong>&#8220;so what&#8221;</strong> if the filmakers use distortions or artistic license&#8230;IT&#8217;S JUST A MOVIE.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247656</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I pointed out the fact that the scene involving Afghanistan and the attempt to get bin Laden &lt;strong&gt;is a composite&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Former Gov. Thomas H. Kean of New Jersey, the chairman of the Sept. 11 commission.

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&lt;strong&gt;Composite &lt;/strong&gt;- &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;made up&lt;/strong&gt; of disparate or separate parts or elements&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I pointed out the fact that the scene involving Afghanistan and the attempt to get bin Laden <strong>is a composite</strong>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Former Gov. Thomas H. Kean of New Jersey, the chairman of the Sept. 11 commission.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Composite </strong>- <em><strong>made up</strong> of disparate or separate parts or elements</em></p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247651</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/node/7417&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Really&lt;/a&gt;? Well, pages 110 through 115 of the&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; 9/11 Commission report &lt;/a&gt;quite disagreed. In this section, subtitled &quot;The CIA Develops a Capture Plan,&quot;the commissioners chronicled a 1997 â€“ 1998 strategy to capture or kill bin Laden in Afghanistan:

&lt;em&gt;A compound of about 80 concrete or mud-brick buildings surrounded by a 10-foot wall, Tarnak Farms was located in an isolated desert area on the outskirts of the Kandahar airport. CIA officers were able to map the entire site, identifying the houses that belonged to Bin Ladin&#039;s wives and one where Bin Ladin himself was most likely to sleep. Working with the tribals, they drew up plans for the raid. They ran two complete rehearsals in the United States during the fall of 1997.&lt;/em&gt;
By early 1998, planners at the Counterterrorist Center were ready to come back to the White House to seek formal approval.

Does it sound like Nowrasteh &quot;completely made up&quot;this plan? As to who stopped this covert action, the Commission wasn&#039;t sure:

&lt;em&gt;Impressions vary as to who actually decided not to proceed with the operation. Clarke told us that the CSG [Counterterrorist Security Group headed by Clarke] saw the plan as flawed. He was said to have described it to a colleague on the NSC staff as &quot;half-assed&quot;and predicted the principals would not approve it. &quot;Jeff&quot;thought the decision had been made at the cabinet level. Pavitt thought that it was Berger&#039;s doing, though perhaps on Tenet&#039;s advice. Tenet told us that given the recommendation of his chief operations officers, he alone had decided to &quot;turn off&quot;the operation. He had simply informed Berger, who had not pushed back. Berger&#039;s recollection was similar. He said the plan was never presented to the White House for a decision.&lt;/em&gt;
Hmmm. So, the 9/11 Commission wasn&#039;t really sure who was responsible for putting the kibosh on this plan. However, given Clarke&#039;s lack of credibility, and the fact that Sandy Berger was so intent on covering up the missteps of the Clinton administration that he actually stole documents from the National Archive just prior to testifying before the Commission, their take on this matter seems easily discounted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/node/7417" rel="nofollow">Really</a>? Well, pages 110 through 115 of the<a href="http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf" rel="nofollow"> 9/11 Commission report </a>quite disagreed. In this section, subtitled &#8220;The CIA Develops a Capture Plan,&#8221;the commissioners chronicled a 1997 â€“ 1998 strategy to capture or kill bin Laden in Afghanistan:</p>
<p><em>A compound of about 80 concrete or mud-brick buildings surrounded by a 10-foot wall, Tarnak Farms was located in an isolated desert area on the outskirts of the Kandahar airport. CIA officers were able to map the entire site, identifying the houses that belonged to Bin Ladin&#8217;s wives and one where Bin Ladin himself was most likely to sleep. Working with the tribals, they drew up plans for the raid. They ran two complete rehearsals in the United States during the fall of 1997.</em><br />
By early 1998, planners at the Counterterrorist Center were ready to come back to the White House to seek formal approval.</p>
<p>Does it sound like Nowrasteh &#8220;completely made up&#8221;this plan? As to who stopped this covert action, the Commission wasn&#8217;t sure:</p>
<p><em>Impressions vary as to who actually decided not to proceed with the operation. Clarke told us that the CSG [Counterterrorist Security Group headed by Clarke] saw the plan as flawed. He was said to have described it to a colleague on the NSC staff as &#8220;half-assed&#8221;and predicted the principals would not approve it. &#8220;Jeff&#8221;thought the decision had been made at the cabinet level. Pavitt thought that it was Berger&#8217;s doing, though perhaps on Tenet&#8217;s advice. Tenet told us that given the recommendation of his chief operations officers, he alone had decided to &#8220;turn off&#8221;the operation. He had simply informed Berger, who had not pushed back. Berger&#8217;s recollection was similar. He said the plan was never presented to the White House for a decision.</em><br />
Hmmm. So, the 9/11 Commission wasn&#8217;t really sure who was responsible for putting the kibosh on this plan. However, given Clarke&#8217;s lack of credibility, and the fact that Sandy Berger was so intent on covering up the missteps of the Clinton administration that he actually stole documents from the National Archive just prior to testifying before the Commission, their take on this matter seems easily discounted.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247650</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt;...I say...&lt;strong&gt;so what?  It&#039;s just a movie.&lt;/strong&gt; 

As long as they present it as fiction, and not a documentary, then I&#039;m cool with the distortions and artistic license taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But <em>still</em>&#8230;I say&#8230;<strong>so what?  It&#8217;s just a movie.</strong> </p>
<p>As long as they present it as fiction, and not a documentary, then I&#8217;m cool with the distortions and artistic license taken.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247649</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t think this is biased against Clinton.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;em&gt;&quot;In particular, some critics &quot; including Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar &quot; &lt;strong&gt;questioned a scene &lt;/strong&gt;that depicts several American military officers on the ground in Afghanistan. In it, the officers, working with leaders of the Northern Alliance, the Afghan rebel group, move in to capture Osama bin Laden, only to allow him to escape after the mission is canceled by Clinton officials in Washington.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;...in a phone interview, Mr. Clarke said &lt;strong&gt;no military personnel or C.I.A. agents were ever in position to capture Mr. bin Laden in Afghanistan&lt;/strong&gt;, nor did the leader of the Northern Alliance get that near to his camp.

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;It didn&#039;t happen,â€&lt;/strong&gt; Mr. Clarke said. &quot;There were no troops in Afghanistan about to snatch bin Laden. There were no C.I.A. personnel about to snatch bin Laden. &lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s utterly invented.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

Mr. Clarke, an on-air consultant to ABC News, said he was particularly shocked by a scene in which it seemed Clinton officials simply hung up the phone on an agent awaiting orders in the field. &lt;strong&gt;&quot;It&#039;s 180 degrees from what happened,â€&lt;/strong&gt; he said. &lt;strong&gt;&quot;So, yeah, I think you would have to describe that as deeply flawed.â€&quot;em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think this is biased against Clinton.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;In particular, some critics &#8221; including Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism czar &#8221; <strong>questioned a scene </strong>that depicts several American military officers on the ground in Afghanistan. In it, the officers, working with leaders of the Northern Alliance, the Afghan rebel group, move in to capture Osama bin Laden, only to allow him to escape after the mission is canceled by Clinton officials in Washington.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;in a phone interview, Mr. Clarke said <strong>no military personnel or C.I.A. agents were ever in position to capture Mr. bin Laden in Afghanistan</strong>, nor did the leader of the Northern Alliance get that near to his camp.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;It didn&#8217;t happen,â€</strong> Mr. Clarke said. &#8220;There were no troops in Afghanistan about to snatch bin Laden. There were no C.I.A. personnel about to snatch bin Laden. <strong>It&#8217;s utterly invented.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Mr. Clarke, an on-air consultant to ABC News, said he was particularly shocked by a scene in which it seemed Clinton officials simply hung up the phone on an agent awaiting orders in the field. <strong>&#8220;It&#8217;s 180 degrees from what happened,â€</strong> he said. <strong>&#8220;So, yeah, I think you would have to describe that as deeply flawed.â€&#8221;em&gt;</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2006/09/06/did-abc-edit-the-path-to-911/comment-page-1/#comment-247647</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be telling the left that Mike.  BTW, I don&#039;t think this is biased against Clinton.  If I understand the promos and the actual critics that saw the film, it sticks to the 9/11 Commission report.  I will watch it.  

Do you think they will have a scene with Sandy stuffing his pants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be telling the left that Mike.  BTW, I don&#8217;t think this is biased against Clinton.  If I understand the promos and the actual critics that saw the film, it sticks to the 9/11 Commission report.  I will watch it.  </p>
<p>Do you think they will have a scene with Sandy stuffing his pants?</p>
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