Hillary Stands By Her Man While Morris Goes For The Jugular
By: Pam On: Sep/26/06 - 37 Comments
Hillary stood by Bill as we would expect. Dick Morris wrote The real Clinton emerges , and Boxer knocks Fox News! Might I suggest that the Democrats try to get on Fox News more often? It might help them get exposure to an audience!
President Clinton assumes that criticism of his failure to kill bin Laden is a “nice little conservative hit job on me.” But he has it backwards. It is not because people are right-wingers that they criticize him over the failure to prevent 9/11. It was his failure to catch bin Laden that drove them to the right wing.
If you like to participate in polls, might I suggest that you visit vote.com?
September 26, 2006 - 05:10 PM on September 26th, 2006
Try this on for size, Hillary.
RICHARD CLARKE: Actually, I’ve got about seven points, let me just go through them quickly. Um, the first point, I think the overall point is, there was no plan on Al Qaeda that was passed from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration.
Second point is that the Clinton administration had a strategy in place, effectively dating from 1998. And there were a number of issues on the table since 1998. And they remained on the table when that administration went out of office “ issues like aiding the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, changing our Pakistan policy — uh, changing our policy toward Uzbekistan. And in January 2001, the incoming Bush administration was briefed on the existing strategy. They were also briefed on these series of issues that had not been decided on in a couple of years.
September 26, 2006 - 06:52 PM on September 26th, 2006
Nice info Ted! Thanks for that:!:
September 26, 2006 - 07:27 PM on September 26th, 2006
HilLIARy lying again. Oh my!
Oh, but she’s a moderate now! And she’s always been a Yankee fan! And did you know that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the famous arctic explorer? (well, except that when she was born Sir Edmund Hillary had not done his famous exploration yet).
She has never let truth get in the way.
September 27, 2006 - 03:33 AM on September 27th, 2006
if Fox news viewers were curious of alternate views from their own, i can teach them how to change the channel in order to facilitate that.
that they sit there feeding from the conservative trouogh says little about their well rounded point of view.
now that Bush has failed to catch Bin Laden, where will the rightwing drive to now?
i get that simple intellectual curiousity is sometimes more than reactionaries can muster.
September 27, 2006 - 05:14 AM on September 27th, 2006
btw, i am confident several here would still be calling Morris a whore-mongering toe-sucker, were he still helping the opposition.
such forgiveness is heartwarming & other things that can easily be implied by the blind eye being turned to his history.
if you can’t believe Morris there’s always Drudge.
September 27, 2006 - 05:47 AM on September 27th, 2006
also re: Morris & his ilk:
caution
self-important banter among Amway salesmen, political bloggers & consultants, film critics & advertising executives – not so easy to swallow if you’re outside the group.
the only sense of humor these groups usually display is within their own circle of agreeable friends.
they can’t keep their mouths shut, & when groups of them get together, their tone of voice would lead you to believe that they were doing the pressing and important work of foreign dignitaries.
the tone is so vicious because often there’s so little at stake.
does he still suck hooker toes, does anyone know? obviously he has no trouble giving the right wing a verbal euphemistic reach around.
September 27, 2006 - 06:23 AM on September 27th, 2006
the beauty of Dick Morris is that he spent years telling the Clinton’s what to do & now he’s making a real good living by exclaiming,
“ya know what the Clintons did!?”
& history goes on, being revised for convenience.
September 27, 2006 - 06:49 AM on September 27th, 2006
4- we have tried the rest and have chosen the best.
5- He’s such a Jew isn’t he?
6- No, he took to bubba’s sloppy seconds!
7- So Clinton is a puppet?
September 27, 2006 - 06:59 AM on September 27th, 2006
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it was all good til your response to 7.
targeting Clinton for buying into Morris’s ‘triangulation’ theory as opposed to every other politician driven by the polls is a little disingenuous.
I targeted Morris & you turned it around to Clinton.
I almost missed that deft move.
September 27, 2006 - 07:12 AM on September 27th, 2006
Morris can be thanked by the left for getting the Clinton’s to the top….to act as if he didn’t is disengenuos!
September 27, 2006 - 07:28 AM on September 27th, 2006
Why does shiloh
write in such a rambling, disjointed style
it is hard to read and annoying
who cares anyway
when the message is scarcely worth the trouble to decipher
it is the same thing over and over
conservatives all think the same and will not listen to any other opinion
kkklinton was a great politician great master of the virtual plantation
Republican bad democrite good Fox bad the other 95% of the media that is Leftist is good
I luv Air America have big picture of Al Franken in my home
and so on ad nauseum blah blah blah
September 27, 2006 - 07:33 AM on September 27th, 2006
to ignore Morris’ past because he now bats for your team while bashing other people’s character solely based on the allegiance to the opposition is also disengenuos!
there’s another word for it i can’t remember at the moment….help me out darlin’.
Sam Adams was born on this date. his cousin John & Tom Jefferson knew something about going for the jugular.
After the Boston Tea Party. Gen. Thomas Gage issued a warrant for the arrest of Adams and Hancock, alternately accusing them of various things, up to & including treason. From the British point of view, they were, indeed traitors. O well.
In 1796 Adams & Jefferson ran one of the most vicious campaigns for the presidency you can imagine.
Tom said Sam wanted to go back to the royalists & accused Adams of suppressing information that was favorable to France and driving America into war with that country. Adams was called everything from a fool to a criminal. Claims were made that he wanted to marry off his son to the daughter of George III, creating an American dynasty under British rule. Even Alexander Hamilton, a fellow Federalist, ripped into Adams, saying his defects of character made him unfit to hold office
No to be outdone, the Adams people accused Jefferson
and the Republicans of being a traitorous “French Party.” A Federalist newspaper printed, “He that is not for us, is against us.”
Federalist campaigners accused Jefferson of being a cheat, a fraud, a coward & a robber. They said he was “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father…raised wholly on hoe-cake made of coarse-ground Southern corn, bacon and hominy, with an occasional change of fricasseed bullfrog.â€
Hoe-cakes? Fricasseed bullfrogs?
And some people complained about John Kerry being ridiculed for putting Swiss cheese on a Philly cheese steak ?
Imagine us back there, taking sides against one of these fellows with all the vitriol that has always been a part of intense partisanship.
History has taught us they were both men of good will, caught up in the cultural dynamic of their times.
We’ve come so far.
September 27, 2006 - 07:38 AM on September 27th, 2006
well Robert – in that your disapointment is shared by every one of your peers here, your being added to the chorus is pretty insignificant.
surely you have something better to do.
cut taxes, cut social programs, engage in military adventurism, adopt a baby who otherwise would have been aborted, betray conservative economic policies & decide to put yourself above the law.
you know – be a republican.
September 27, 2006 - 07:56 AM on September 27th, 2006
12- Morris has been a Republican that the Clinton’s hired for his effectiveness.
September 27, 2006 - 08:05 AM on September 27th, 2006
cut taxes
Yup. Better left in our pockets.
cut social programs
There are no such thing as cuts. They are reductions in the amount of increase. I wish we could reduce the virtual plantation the Demokkkrites have created.
engage in military adventurism
Like Bosnia? With no U.S. interests at all? Oh, and when are those troops coming home?
adopt a baby who otherwise would have been aborted
Funny how the Left throws this up all the time, but who is running the private adoption programs, the charities, and who is adopting these babies? That’s right, mostly the Right.
betray conservative economic policies
Imagine that: what is a Leftist doing caring about Conservative economic policies? They don’t include the welfare state (see cutting social programs above).
decide to put yourself above the law
Your poster boy Klinton was a master at that. HilLiary too. Where did they find those 900 FBI files on their opponents? Lost for years, then suddenly Hilliary stubbed her toe on them oine day. Or was that the subpoenaed law firm billing records that they couldn’t find when they were doing everything they could do to obstruct the Whitewater investigation?
September 27, 2006 - 08:24 AM on September 27th, 2006
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Bosnia – fighting for life was wrong? you would have left the slaughter go on til when?
you have no idea of what i think about fiscal responsibility. you have a sterotype in your head & keep realities that may threaten them at bay.
gie me one statistic that the “right” adopts more than any other political persuasion.
check out the decline of people with health insurance. access to medical care has dropped under Bush while poverty has risen.
the rich get richer under the republicans – always. they get rich under the democrats to, just at a slower pace.
your single minded partisanship is foolish whenever you pretend to know what the “left” believes.
September 27, 2006 - 08:28 AM on September 27th, 2006
The wicked witch stands with the turkey and the flying monkeys all around:razz:
September 27, 2006 - 10:33 AM on September 27th, 2006
2.
Your welcome- this is factual information conveniently ignored by Shiloh and his ilk.
4.
Wait, I didn’t know Clarke was an operative for Fox News.
Bill Clinton quoted Richard Clarke, but Richard Clarke himself contradicts what Bill Clinton said.
So my question: Who exactly is the liar here?
September 27, 2006 - 10:39 AM on September 27th, 2006
16- shiloh said: Bosnia – fighting for life was wrong? you would have left the slaughter go on til when?
Yet the life of the slaughtered Kurds is okay?
September 27, 2006 - 10:43 AM on September 27th, 2006
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Richard Clarke on the Path to 9/11 movie:
1. Contrary to the movie, no US military or CIA personnel were on the ground in Afghanistan and saw bin Laden.
2. Contrary to the movie, the head of the Northern Alliance, Masood, was no where near the alleged bin Laden camp and did not see UBL.
3. Contrary to the movie, the CIA Director actually said that he could not recommend a strike on the camp because the information was single sourced and we would have no way to know if bin Laden was in the target area by the time a cruise missile hit it.
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The actual history is quite different. According to the 9/11 Commission Report (pg. 199), then-CIA Director George Tenet had the authority from President Clinton to kill Bin Laden. Roger Cressy, former NSC director for counterterrorism, has written, “Mr. Clinton approved every request made of him by the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and al-Qaeda.â€
Everybody lies & many have an agenda for turning a blind eye to the lie for the sake of their “truth”.
September 27, 2006 - 10:45 AM on September 27th, 2006
o – is that why we invaded Iraq – for the Kurds? a decade late & a few troops short.
i get so confused as to why we went over there. WMD’s to humanitarian reasons – you guys have got covered.
you just can’t seem to make it thru the war without a rationale.
September 27, 2006 - 11:01 AM on September 27th, 2006
20.
What you posted is completely irrelevant to the question. I don’t care what the 9/11 movie said, as it was not a documentary. Nor do I care what the 9/11 Commision Report said.
Again, I will reiterate that regarding this topic, either Bill Clinton or Richard Clarke is lying. Bill Clinton quoted Richard Clarke, but Richard Clarke himself contradicts what Bill Clinton said.
So my question: Who exactly is the liar here?
September 27, 2006 - 11:22 AM on September 27th, 2006
20- Said Clinton on Sunday: If you can criticize me for one thing, you can criticize me for this, after the Cole I had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full scale attack search for Bin Laden. But we needed baseing rights in Uzbekistan which we got after 9/11. The CIA and the FBI refused to certify that Bin Laden was responsible while I was there. They refused to certify. So that meant I would have had to send a few hundred special forces in helicopters and refuel at night.
The POTUS runs the CIA and FBI and he needs no certification from them. OBL was indicted in 98′ therefore granting Bubba the authority to do what he needed, including military force to go in and get OBL.
September 27, 2006 - 11:33 AM on September 27th, 2006
Shitoh is so misinformed and ignorant that he embarasses himself with each post. Maybe besides wearing a Depends on his rearend, he should wear one on his face, too.
September 27, 2006 - 12:24 PM on September 27th, 2006
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September 27, 2006 - 12:29 PM on September 27th, 2006
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you’re a fool. a hate motivated child with a tantrum for people not like you.
remeber when you were sanctioned for threatening me?
that’s who you are.
i wish you’d engage on some liberal sites & let me watch.
friggin coward.
September 27, 2006 - 12:57 PM on September 27th, 2006
Shitoh, name the sanction. You were the one banned, not me. You are the one who wallows in self-pity, hates those who disagree with you, and is a real weirdo, period.
September 27, 2006 - 04:40 PM on September 27th, 2006
16 posted “Bosnia – fighting for life was wrong? you would have left the slaughter go on til when?”
But the 500.000+ slaughtered Iraqis, and those are just the ones that have been found, don’t matter. Oh, and very vital U.S. and World interests in the M.E. (not in Bosnia).
Are you sure you aren’t San Francisco Liberal’s evil twin?
September 27, 2006 - 05:12 PM on September 27th, 2006
I want to now address the fact that the question in post 18 and that was later repeated in post 22 has not been answered.
There is a reason why. I believe Shiloh is aware that answering this question is a no win situation. That sai, there are only two possible answers: Bill Clinton or Richard Clarke
Choice #1: If he chooses Bill CLinton as the liar, then it will colapse everything that was said in his little tirade. It will once again tarnish the reputation of the left’s ultimate crusader and enforce the image that he was not only a liar during his presidency, but after it as well.
Choice #2: If he choooses Richard Clarke as the liar, this colapses the assertions that he made in the book, which is much of what the left’s anti-war arguements are based on. This choice not only potrays Clarke as a liar, but has the side effect of potraying Clinton as a simpleton for beleiving him at the very least or a liar at the very most, supports the reasoning for not making Clarke Deputy Director of Homeland Security and destroys Clarke as a reputable source for the 9/11 Commision report.
I assert that because of this, BOTH are liars and the facts in the 9/11 Commision Report are specious at best and there is much being hid by both parties.(also reference Able Danger).
Ladies and Gentlemen- I rest my case.
September 27, 2006 - 05:19 PM on September 27th, 2006
shiloh: FRONT AND CENTER!
September 27, 2006 - 05:22 PM on September 27th, 2006
28-Councelor, this court has warned you about using reason and logic when presenting your case..1 more ouburst like that and you will be sanctioned:wink:
September 27, 2006 - 05:34 PM on September 27th, 2006
Officer Burrell, escort Mr. shiloh to the witness stand where he WILL answer the question…
September 27, 2006 - 05:39 PM on September 27th, 2006
Sorry, I’ll cease and desist…not!
September 27, 2006 - 08:42 PM on September 27th, 2006
shiloh must be in hiding.
September 28, 2006 - 05:59 AM on September 28th, 2006
Robert, Shitoh runs and hides when his jig is up.
September 28, 2006 - 08:48 AM on September 28th, 2006
It appears that’s what is going on here for sure. He pposts lots of material, lots of opinion, and casts many stones. But apparently he has been caught between a rock and a hard place.
September 28, 2006 - 09:23 AM on September 28th, 2006
Abraham Lincoln had a quote about a man fitting a prodidgeous amount of words into a small idea. Sort of fits shitoh.