DEMS’ FAVORITE HALLOWEEN COSTUME: PATRIOT
Love her or hate her, she makes a good point!
The beauty of Democrats’ pretending to be hawks on Afghanistan is that most people can’t remember what liberals said five minutes after they said it, much less five years later.
In fact, during the brief five weeks it took American forces to take Kabul and send the Taliban scurrying, liberals were not the flag-waving patriots they would have us believe.
In October 2001, Sen. Joe Biden gave a speech before the Council on Foreign Relations saying that America’s air war in Afghanistan made the United States look like “this high-tech bully that thinks from the air we can do whatever we want to do.”
Four weeks before U.S. troops completely vanquished the Taliban, Kim Jong Il’s pal, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, said on CNN’s “Capital Gang” that the Taliban would not soon be toppled. He cited his experience with the Taliban, saying: “I think they can hold on for a while. They were very resilient.”
Howard Dean joined Michael Moore in arguing that Osama bin Laden was innocent until proved guilty.
October 27, 2006 - 08:58 AM on October 27th, 2006
Favorite halloween costume
Good one!
Oh so true. Dems are chameleons, at least for the sake of argument. They readily morph into any argumentive position that supports their curent argument. The Afghanistan example is a great one.
I have heard so many Democrites criticizing everything the Bush admin. is doing in the war on terror. Then when asked if they want to win the WOT, or whether they are for taking any military action at all, they suddenly morph into superhawks and assert they would do a better job taking out the terrorists, why Bush isn’t doing enough, he’s wasting time and resources in Iraq, and there are better ways to get the job done—and the Dems would do it!
Of course there never are any details, any ideas, just babble. They have no plan, no ideas, not even an understanding of what to do. They don’t want to do anything more than be the majority party. And they’ll undercut Bush, and by extension America, to do so.
Here’s a plan the Democrites would know something about: Bring the terrorists into the fold! Offer them welfare, freebies, and a job on the Democrite virtual plantation. A free check for life. If they’ll just keep the violence level down to an acceptable level, it can be redefined as ambient noise; the cost of doing international business. You know far more people are killed in traffic accidents each month in the U.S. than died on 9/11! That’ll work!
October 27, 2006 - 04:23 PM on October 27th, 2006
I once saw a picture of AL GORE on halloween he was in one case BEUTY AND THE BEAST and he was THE BEST which we all know he is then he was UNDERDOG holy copy cats batman frankly the best al gore can be is himself HOT AIR MAN:razz:
October 27, 2006 - 05:44 PM on October 27th, 2006
I call bullshit.
Democrats are no less patriotic than Republicans.
October 27, 2006 - 11:50 PM on October 27th, 2006
Yed, you’re a good guy.
October 27, 2006 - 11:50 PM on October 27th, 2006
…T
October 27, 2006 - 11:51 PM on October 27th, 2006
October 28, 2006 - 01:50 AM on October 28th, 2006
Yeah, glad you’re on our side now, Yed. Welcome! And you are right about the Democrats being patriotic!
Sen. Kennedy was so focused on the Abu Grab scandal because he knows that the war will not be won in the field, it will be won in the world opinion of how we treat detainees. If we are kind, generous, and magnanimous to them, word will get back to the insurgents and they will all surrender en masse to get three hots, a cot, free medical care, and the best health plan they have ever seen. Then we will have won! It’s brilliant!!! What a patriot!!!
John Murtha stated that those Marines were cold-blooded killers, even before investigations were complete, solely because he was proud of what effective combat fighting machines our guys have become! It was the ultimate statement of support, acknowledging that they are lean, battle-tested and battle-hardened fighters. It was an impromptu outpouring of admiration and respect from the great patriot!!!
Sen. Durbin, when comparing the actions of our troops to that of Hitler’s minions, was actually contrasting them, but only a few of us intellectuals on the Left really understood that! Durbin was subsequently mischaracterized and misquoted, and the patriotic character of this great man was lost in the misinformation. Would that we all could be so patriotic!!!
Sen. Kerry, when he was reported to have stated that our troops “have terrorized women and children in the middle of the night” didn’t say that! He had been having problems with his microphone all afternoon, and as he was speaking, it ocasionally would cut out. In actuality, Sen. Kerry was saying “You know, I’m glad our troops have never terrorized Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night, like the enemy does” but the parts in bold were not heard due to microphone malfunction. Therefore the misquote resulted. A very unfortunate occurrence for this Vietnam war hero and patriot extraordinnaire!
Former President Jimmy Carter goes around making derogatory statements about America and the current President, on foreign soil, only because he wants to help America by drumming up support from other countries. His approach is a little different; by making it sound as though things are going badly for America and the current President, he hopes to gain sympathy support. It’s a different approach, but this Nobel prize winner believes it will be effective. Other nations will be so impressed by Carter’s characterization, and feel so much pity for the state of affairs here, that they will forget even their recent badmouthing and backstabbing and rally to America’s side! And Mr. carter is such an experienced, accomplished leader and patriot that who are we to even question the sincerity and brilliance of his plan!!! Hmmm???
So right on, Yed, as I’ve detailed above, these and other Democratic leaders are every bit as patriotic as anyone out there, and I think even more so!
Back at ya, San Francisco Liberal!!! I see you get it (when the mouth-breathing, knuckle dragging neocons/theocons cannot even begin to understand)!!!
October 28, 2006 - 01:54 AM on October 28th, 2006
sorry, here’s the corrected Sen. Kerry quote (yeh, I’ve been hitting the bong too much!:smile
. The parts in bold were not heard due to microphone malfunction (or maybe the neocons conspired to make that happen? :evil
Sen. Kerry was saying “You know, I’m glad our troops have never terrorized Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night, like the enemy doesâ€
October 28, 2006 - 01:59 AM on October 28th, 2006
You know, just rereading that full quote from Sen. Kerry (2nd paragraph in post #8) gives me goose bumps…what a patriot!!!
October 28, 2006 - 02:09 AM on October 28th, 2006
Howard Dean joined Michael Moore in arguing that Osama bin Laden was innocent until proved guilty.
Well of course Osama is innocent until proven guilty!!!:shock: That’s our system of law, isn’t it? And under our constitution, it says Osama has this protection and even more. I believe when Osama ia captured he should be taken to L.A. and a dream team of defense lawyers, like the OJ trial, should be assembled. That trial will cost taxpayers millions, but it’s only fair!!!
What? You say we have videotapes of Osama declaring war on America and taking responsibility for violent terrorist acts, including 9/11? Rubbish! You must understand that in their culture, taking responsibility for any notorious public act gains you prestige. It’s quite common that they’ll admit/confess to any violent action, even if they were nowhere in the area, if it makes headlines and gains them brownie points with Allah. So take all those accusations against OBL with a grain of salt.
October 28, 2006 - 02:35 AM on October 28th, 2006
My favorite comment from the Dems is that we’ve been there longer than WWII and have had 3,000 KIA. We really didn’t need to take all of those casualties, we could’ve fought this the way we fought WWII. We could’ve simply bombed Fallujah, Mosul, or Tikrit into submission. We have precedent for razing cities as well as religious structures where we believe the enemy are hiding. We have been fighting this with one hand behind our backs. We burned Dresden to the ground in Germany, and reduced the 900 yr old monastery at Montecasino to rubble in Italy. Imagine the outrage from the Democratic side of the aisle had we done the same in Iraq. As for the number of casualties in this war, if we keep losing personnel at this rate, we may hit the number of marines lost at Iwo Jima in a few more years. Of course, we have just now hit the estimated number of killed on D-Day and it only took 4 years. Another way to look at it is that there have been more people killed between Philadelphia and Washington, DC than service members killed by hostile action in Iraq during the same time period.
Imagine how the current Dems would’ve reacted to over 6800 killed in 36 days of fighting like happened on Iwo Jima.
October 28, 2006 - 09:34 AM on October 28th, 2006
Democrite leaders are indeed patriotic, probably just as patritoic as anyone. The only question is: which flag?
Here’s a list of suggested costumes/personas/themes for the Democrite leadership at DC parties this Halloween:
Benedict Arnold
Aldrich Ames (he set the CIA intelligence community back even further than Jamie Gorelic did! A must for those who “loathe” the military!)
Judas Iscariot (mock Christianity at the same time: a two-fer!)
Axis Sally
Lord Haw Haw
Quisling (Jimmy Carter would look positively smashing appearing as Quisling at a DC party!)
Ethel and Julius Rosenberg (for the fashionable couple!)
David Greenglass
Alger Hiss
Guy Fawkes
Jane Fonda (for the physically fit Democrite. How about it, Nancy Pelosi? Dye your hair blonde, have a couple more face lifts, and maybe you could pull it off!)
John Walker Lindh (Allah Akhbar! Show solidarity with the Taliban!)
October 28, 2006 - 09:45 AM on October 28th, 2006
HOW could I forget the newest member of the list, ChapaTraitor Ted Kennedy? The new revelations from the KGB archives about Ted’s backchannel dealings to undermine the Reagan presidency during the Cold War certainly qualify this Liberal Democrite icon for any list that’s worth it’s salt!
And the best thing for TK, is he doesn’t even need a costume! He can appear as his bloated buffoonish self!
October 28, 2006 - 12:47 PM on October 28th, 2006
Rant On:
Oh, this will probably piss off everyone, no matter if you are Republican or Democrat. It will probably be ignored, but no matter.
Re 7:
Liberal said: “Yeah, glad you’re on our side now…”
You know, if you are truly a Democrat saying this crap, then you are an idiot. If you are multinic troll Republican saying this crap, then you are also an idiot.
Either way, you are an idiot.
I’m am only on one side here, and that is America. That is more important than being a Democrat or Republican, and frankly neither one of those parties are on America’s side.
So, what does that mean about the people who are in these parties? Well, there are three categories.
The first are the leaders. At various levels, the leaders of these respective parties are down right crooks. This is the Mehlmens, the Deans, The Bush’s The Clinton, The Kennedy’s and on and on and on. Get this straight: hey care jack shit about this country or about you! They care about money and power, and nothing more. Most of these are the politicians on the national level. The only way they can get to this level is to sell their souls to their respective parties.
The second are the aspiring leaders. They realize the corruption that goes on, but just don’t care. They want the money and power, but haven’t been given the chance yet to obtain it on the national level. Mostly on the state and local levels, the are state level Congressmen, mayors, etc.
The last category is one you folks really need to take a good hard look at, because this is where the real power is, and that power is you.
These are the followers of the party. They can be divided into two categories: those that know what is going on and don’t care and those that wear blinders or sincerely think that these parties are good. In either instance, they have my pity because these are the folks that can make a real difference but frankly do not. They can create the grass root movement that is required to save our country.
So why don’t they?
Look, I don’t equate “liberal” or “conservative” with patriotism. I also DO NOT equate the concepts of “liberal” or “conservative” with Democrat or Republican as Dems and Reps have no real interest in patriotism IMO.
We need new categories here.
I definitely lean conservative, but I realize that there are some liberal concepts that are required to run this country, that are good. People need to stop challenging others patriotism just because they are liberal or conservative. That is plastic patriotism, and can be found at any Wal-Mart or Target near you. Wake the fuck up.
With that said, God Bless the USA- whether religious or not, please pray for her because she needs it with these people in power.
(And no- that is NOT a reference to the Bush Presidency, but a reference to the Reps and Dems)
Rant Off
October 28, 2006 - 02:02 PM on October 28th, 2006
Yed, you ARE a good guy.
October 28, 2006 - 02:07 PM on October 28th, 2006
I will agree with that, if Ted will simply omit any reference to the Democractic side in his rant of post 13.
San Francisco Liberal how could you fail to point that out?
October 28, 2006 - 02:09 PM on October 28th, 2006
Is that you again, Robert?
October 28, 2006 - 05:21 PM on October 28th, 2006
I don’t agree with SFL on much as far as politics go, but I will give him credit for at least looking past the paretisan BS that is slowly suffocating my country and acknowledging it as truth.
Thanks SFL- you’ve earned a bit of respect today, FWIW.
October 28, 2006 - 10:09 PM on October 28th, 2006
My main concern is the safety of this country and the people who live in it. In a war with an enemy whose leaders have stated on many occasions that they seek to see the Islamic flag flying over the White House, I have to wonder about the motives or sanity of anyone who seeks to appease the enemy. It has always been the unspoken policy that disagreements end at the water’s edge and also that former presidents do not criticize the sitting one. Jimmy Carter, and BJ Billy (arguably two of the worst presidents in history for protecting and defending the Constitution against all enemies) have violated that. Now it has come to light that Teddy Kennedy was in league with the Soviets to undermine this country. With Democrats vocally condemning an administration that has brought the country out of a recession, weathered a terrorist attack, stopped numerous other terror attacks, and is fighting a war on two fronts, it would be hard to not consider them dangerous to the country. Democrats are also the prime suspects in leaking classified information to the press. Information that has hampered this country’s ability to defend it’s citizens against further terror attacks. Additonally Democrats have taken the stance of no matter what the Republicans want they have to fight against it. No matter how important or intelligent a program may be, the Democrats line up to march lock step like lemmings to try and block it. Now seeing that they have proven to be disastrous on the single most important issue of our time, the war against terrorism, they are trying to rewrite history to claim to be the party of national security. Why do you not see the major media outlets asking:
How Gorelick’s wall helps national security?
How Jay Rockefeller’s trip to the mid east warning of the impending invasion of Iraq boosted US security?
How Muertha’s plan to redeploy to Okinawa would work seeing as the Okinawans have asked the US to reduce and eventually eliminate the US military presence there?
How trying to defeat the Patriot Act enhances our ability to defend ourselves against terrorists?
How the Clinton administrations force reduction and reenlisting bonus reductions made our military more powerful?
How the Clinton administration’s policy of refusing to reenlist prior service service members benefitted the military? (I personally know about that one because I tried to reenlist on three occasions during the Clinton Administration.)
How the Clinton administration’s selling of missile technology to communist China has benefitted the US?
How the Church commission’s legislation that gutted US human intelligence operations overseas has helped secure the US?
How Jimmy Carter’s failure to support the Shah to prevent Ayatollah Khomeini from gaining control in Iran helped to insure the security of the US?
How the Democrats in Congress are intentionally mischaracterizing the now exposed NSA intercept program as domestic spying when it’s actually intercepting ONLY international calls involving persons of interest or calls into or out of areas with high concentrations of known terrorists?
How can the party that has consistently been this wrong on national security have the audacity to try and claim that they’re the best party to be in charge of it? They are also the party that has consistently striven to deteriorate the rights delineated in the Constitution. They have given us censorship in the form of Political Correctness, they’ve fought tooth and nail against private ownership of firearms despite their own studies showing that gun control actually leads to MORE crime, not less. They have consistently stagnated the economy through increased taxes and increased poorly designed social welfare spending. They have consistently sought to reduce or eliminate jail sentences for violent criminals and fought against both mandatory minimum sentences and three time loser laws. Both of these have proven far more effective in reducing crime than any amount of feel good rehabilitation programs. Anyone with an unbiased knowledge of history has to see how the liberal agenda has failed miserably. They have fought to prevent low income parents from having the ability to send their children to private schools. They have continuously voted to reduce military and intelligence budgets even while at war.
October 29, 2006 - 10:13 AM on October 29th, 2006
FAO’s post above illustrates what some of us have been talking about for some time: That there is a fundamental difference between the Republicans and the Democrites in some areas. Yes they are all politicians, yes there are partisan issues, yes they must all be watched and cannot be assumed to be trusted doe to the corruption that is intrinsic to politics.
But look at the facts FAO posted—can anyone say that Republicans are just the same, that they have done the same or equivalent things? I submit that in general the Democrites tend to sink to the very lowest level of the political barrel, that no technique, no disgrace, no degeneracy is out of bounds for them. I think the evidence shows it.
Can anyone honestly disagree? Reread FAOs post, then make a case, if you can.
October 29, 2006 - 01:49 PM on October 29th, 2006
22- Dick Cheney said that people who voted for Mr. Lamont were giving comfort to “Al Qaeda types.” Did you have a question about this? What don’t you understand?
October 29, 2006 - 05:35 PM on October 29th, 2006
how could Jimmy Carter fail to prop up a right wing dictator, hated by his people whom he stole from while making millions for himself & whoring himself to the west.how could he do that? the fact that we helped oppress Iran for generations is why they hate us to this day or do you think that hatred occured in a vacumn?
Bottom line: was Reza Pahlavi better in place than Ayatollah Khomeini and his militant Islamic theocracy? For the people of Iran, for the Middle east, for U.S. interests, for the safety and security of the world? This point doesn’t even require further analysis or comment.
how the republicans have sold the government to muti national corporations. how the number of uninsured have risen while they brag about the economy.
Huh? Rhetoric, more textbook Democrite rhetoric (from some of the richest people in the Gov’t who have huge interests in those same corporations)
Dick Cheney said that people who voted for Mr. Lamont were giving comfort to “Al Qaeda types.â€
And he was wrong? You bet the terrorists are watching everything that happens in this country very carefully, as were the NVA during the Vietnam war. And they are getting plenty of encouragement, political “aid and comfort’ from the Democrite side.
yeah Hitler sounds fair:after all i took Judas Isacariot.
Huh? WTF does any of this have to do with Jesus? Although if Democrites had been around during Jesus’ time, I’ll wager they would have sold him out in a New York second if there was political advantage to be gained.
the democrats betrayed Jesus Christ, according to you.
Uh huh. I posted that…uh huh…I hear the Twilight Zone theme music again, shiloh. That’s where you have gone…again.
October 29, 2006 - 09:41 PM on October 29th, 2006
Even though the Shah was a despot, he was still better than the other option. Aren’t the Dems the ones who are always praising stability at all costs.
October 30, 2006 - 12:24 AM on October 30th, 2006
Ted #13 from the 25,000 foot level, you are right. The two party system is a failure. But as a practical matter, do you think the human race is ever going to transcend 5,0000+ years of historical experience with human nature and create a government system that doesn’t evolve into an oligarchy? It’s just plain human nature.
Sure we’d all like to start a grass roots effort and take back the country…but what does that mean? Populism? I voted for Perot in 1992 because Bush 1 broke his promise “Read my lips…no new taxes”. All that accomplished was to ensure a Klinton victory.
The Libertarians sound good, but they lose me completely with the open borders thing. The Independent candidates almost never have critical mass either.
So I am done with the populism approach, unless something changes my mind. Unfortunately we are stuck with the lesser of two evils, and what I see of the Democrite leadership is just plain worse evil.
Look at the rogue’s gallery listed in post #7. Is there a name there that isn’t a pos? Giving political aid and comfort to the enemy? Chapatraitor Kennedy, undermining the President during the Cold war? F’ing traitors! Can you name an equivalent Republican politician who has done the same? They may be crooks, they may be jerks, they may be liars, but they haven’t done what this Democrite Hall of Shame has done.
So I’ll have to hold my nose and go with the clear lesser of two evils. Doing anything else just ensures that the greater evil prevails.
October 30, 2006 - 09:06 AM on October 30th, 2006
Jimmy Carter was by far americas worse all time president until clinton came along but at least carter was,nt a draft dodger:lol: