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Election Open Thread

By: Pam On: Nov/7/06 - 72 Comments

Use this space to talk about the races you are watching and let us know if there is any big surprises in your state!

UPDATE2:Milwaukee and the parolees (via MM)

Harold Ford Jr is angry

From AP:We’ve got admissions of cheating inept poll workers , an FBI investigation of voter intimidation in Virginia (and, perhaps to come, Montana), and reports at Red State of massive electoral problems in Pennsylvania ” that are flatly contradicted by the Philly Inquirer and Hotline.

UPDATE 1:

Voting Machines Woes Cause Early Delays

*PA Problems…

**Trouble In Indiana; May Extend Hours…

***Fixing charges fly in Utah town…
****FEDS SEND 850 OBSERVERS TO 22 STATES…
GOP Control of Congress Hangs in Balance…
NYT: For Dems, Even a Gain May Feel Like a Failure…
NOVAK: Dems set to gain 19 House seats, 2 Senate seats…
VOTERS THREATEN TO TURN PRESIDENT INTO LAME DUCK…
Eastern States Seen As Election Key…
GOP: BEWARE OF EXIT POLLS…
UPDATE VIA WSJ

(Thanks PCD):A New Breed of Watchdog For Election Day

When Americans go to vote tomorrow, a new breed of activist will be on guard, monitoring polling stations for everything from voting-machine glitches to long lines to registration snafus.

Posted on: November 7, 2006 |

Posted in: National News, State/Local Elections '06

72 Responses to “Election Open Thread”

  1. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 01:32 AM on November 7th, 2006
  2. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 06:36 AM on November 7th, 2006
  3. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 07:03 AM on November 7th, 2006

    WSJ Story on new Watchdog Groups

    I will believe these groups are as nonpartisan as they say they are when they start filing complaints against Democrat ballotbox stuffers in Philthydelphia, Chicago, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and elsewhere Progressives think they have a right to make the result as their delusions dictate.

    Kilo, you listening?

  4. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 07:06 AM on November 7th, 2006

    4- did you miss where the article cited it?

  5. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 07:13 AM on November 7th, 2006

    but i appreciate you setting the stage for denying reality.Making stuff up as you go along?:roll:

  6. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 07:32 AM on November 7th, 2006

    11, shitho, you’ve called Bush crazy, stupid, and everthing but saying the word Hitler, but when he’s on the ballot, he’s beaten you left wingnuts every time. You are the one with psychosis.

    Oh, shitho, you want to acknowledge the numerous news stories about excuses for the Democrats not taking the House and Senate in a tidal wave?

    No, i Knew you aren’t that honest without coercion.

  7. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 08:29 AM on November 7th, 2006

    13, shitho, you are psycho. Bush is a success, especially compared to Clinton and Carter.

    As to you psychosis about 2000, you got caught cheating on the vote, then tried to use courts in FL stacked with progressives who legislated from the bench. The SC stopped that, and you not only don’t like the rule of law, you do not accept it.

  8. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 09:02 AM on November 7th, 2006

    peejz doesn’t like or respect the ‘rule of law’ except when she agrees with it so why should i? Really? Tell me where the proof is in that statement.

    i hated the Clinton years, the budget got balanced a couple of times – we had a booming economy,- that took a shit while he was in office..he failed to heed Greenspans warning of that bubble and then it burst!

    we had relative peace – most of the world looked up to us Except of all those bombings during the 90’s. That was great how NK looked up to us wasn’t it..and how about the way France stabbed us in the back by cutting back door deals! Wow, that was swell…

    It depends on what the definition of the word “is” is—yes he spoke well!

  9. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 09:06 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Shitho, this is a wonderful country. You can sit there and slander the President and not be killed for it. You are too psychotic to see how good you have it. You can even molest goats and not be shot by the goat owner.

  10. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 09:09 AM on November 7th, 2006

    17, Ted Kennedy is a self-serving, cowardly, KGB tool.

  11. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 09:16 AM on November 7th, 2006

    As guilty as Nixon is. Neither was charged with the crime, but both are guilty of the crime. In the eyes of the law, they are innocent..see that is the rule of law.

  12. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 09:23 AM on November 7th, 2006

    21, shitho, you have no idea of what truth is. All you progressive crap for brains think truth is your delusions.

    Also, the proof was posted here several times. We all noticed you ignored it and ran like a true liberal pansy.

  13. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 09:25 AM on November 7th, 2006

    P, mind puting up a hyper link to the posts about the disclosed KGB archives of Teddy’s phone calls both directly and through Sen. Tunney, D-CA. I don’t want shitho get away with his ignorance anymore.

  14. Drake
    November 7, 2006 - 09:29 AM on November 7th, 2006

    How dillusional are you?

    “i hated the Clinton years, the budget got balanced a couple of times ”

    Sure a cowardly tax increase can cover up all sorts of government incompetence, One of the largest increases in history even moreso and even better it prevents you from making the really hard choices on spending cuts. Let’s pretend we’re fiscally responsible by paying off our mistakes on the backs of the US taxpayers. How many trillions were “misplaced” and otherwise unaccounted for under Clinton again?

    “- we had a booming economy,”

    If you understood our system of government you’d understand how little the president has to do with running the economy, and yes that includes Bush too, but that’s probably too tough a concept for you, to understand the difference between the fed chief and president, let’s move on to easier ones for your tiny little mind.

    “we had relative peace ”

    relative to what? Lebanon? How many times were our interests bombed during his 8 years? I’ll also ask again, who bombed more countries during his presidency, Bush or clinton? Do we even need to bring up the disasters in Kosovo and Somalia?

    “- most of the world looked up to us”

    Now that’s funny, you think they looked up to the president who was thought to be bombing other countries to distract from his domestic scandals? Sure right-o.

    ” & the president could speak in complete sentences – even paragraphs”

    Well now how did he say it? I guess that depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is.

    “& we had money in the bank.”

    Again those cowardly tax increases cover up a lot of mistakes.

    “no wonder you hate him. Bush has accomplished so much. he saved us from the WMD’s in Iraq – wait – he did it for humanitarian reason cause the Kurds got gassed in 1988 – wait – ”

    Ya, I wonder where those WMDs disappeared to, I guess they must have just evaporated huh? Oh well out of site out of mind.

    You are such a simpleton it’s just incredible.

  15. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 09:51 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Shitho, Previus post containing KGB Documents in Russian and translated to English

    This is one post. It has enough evidence on Teddy’s dealings with the KGB to undermine the American Government. See that he even undermined Carter.

    Now go back to your regularly scheduled progressive delusions, shitho.

  16. Drake
    November 7, 2006 - 10:07 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Oh so the WMDs did just evaporate then? You admit he had them when he gassed the Kurds yet somehow they just vanished afterwards? They’re not there now so let’s just forget about them instead of figuring out where they went. Afterall figuring out what happened to them is hard and tough questions are bad. So let’s just pretend they eveaporated, Al Gore can dig up some evidence to prove it, no really!

    “tax increases in a booming economy – still bad.”

    Hey the simpleton actually got one right! Way to go! Interesting how the economy went started into a downturn not long after that tax increase, isn’t it?

    “tax cuts while spending on everything you can think of – betraying your own philosophy while driving the country into debt our grandchildren will have to pay – good. must have learned from Reagan who did the same trickle down nonsense.”

    Really? So the shrinking budget deficit isn’t enough proof that they’re working? Let’s take a democrat trick and project out what happens if the budget deficit continues to shrink, well what do you know we end up in a surplus! Amazing! Oh wait we can only project things under democrat presidents, how silly of me to forget that.

    The one thing I do agree with you on is spending is out of hand and needs to be slashed in a major way, but I sure as hell don’t trust the dems to do it. Their whining about republican spending hasn’t been “let’s cut spending”, it’s “wait let’s spend even more on something else, then burden the taxpayers even more to pay for it!” Hardly responsible behaviour.

    “pay as you go – too old fashioned”
    So the government wasting trillions is a good thing, let’s give them free reign to waste trillions more, and then make it so it’s nearly impossible to ever cut taxes again, wow that would be awesome! Simpleton.

  17. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 10:18 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Hey, shitoh, you haven’t faced up to your icon, Ted Kennedy’s treason. Tell us how great the Chappaquiddick Killer is now. I put the link there for you or anyone else to follow. C’mon shitto, be a man and admit your boy is dirty.

  18. Drake
    November 7, 2006 - 10:29 AM on November 7th, 2006

    “probably not as it wouldn’t fit into your predisposed ideology”

    Wow, coming from an ideologue like you that really hurts. Talk about hypocrisy. I seriously doubt you know anything about my predisposed ideology, in all honesty I’m probably far more liberal than you in the classical sense of the word, but I don’t want to talk over your head again.

    Really, so those inspectors just went through and destroyed those pesky WMDs just for kicks? That was awful nice of them, too bad they didn’t bother to leave evidence that they had done so. If you recall the big sticking point was that Hussein refused to provide any evidence of their destruction, perhaps you recall some resolutions from the UN on the matter that he ignored? I wonder why Hussein didn’t bother to mention those inspectors did the work for him. Was he just playing the worst bluff in human history? Boy it’s a shame he’s going to die, I’d like to have played a game of poker with him.

    For the record I don’t trust either party to cut spending, though based on history I trust the dems less. There is plenty of proof the democrats won’t cut spending either by the way. Just look at their voting records intead of listening to interviews on news shows. Actions speak far louder than words. The evidence is in plain view. It’s not like they even try to hide it. You can’t claim to be the “party of the people” and say that taxes can never be too high.

  19. Andy
    November 7, 2006 - 10:39 AM on November 7th, 2006

    I thought you might want to check out Compete.com’s blog today features information from a survey of people who have visited popular political websites in the past few months. It compares their claims to party affiliation to what their internet behavior says about them. There are some interesting trends. Yesterday and Friday’s postings also look into traffic to popular political blogs and what that indicates.

  20. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 10:43 AM on November 7th, 2006

    shitto, you are a blind pig. I put the evidence in your face and you prattle on as if nothing happened. You are a worthless waste of a human being.

  21. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:01 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Hey the saynotorudy site now endorses him :shock:

  22. Drake
    November 7, 2006 - 11:03 AM on November 7th, 2006

    “Donald Rumsfled shook hands & was smiling his ass off with Saddam as we supplied him with weapons in the 1980’s.”

    Ok this may take some thought on your part, try really hard and you may be able to pull it off. So think, what event just happened in a neighboring country that threatened our interests in the middle east? Iraq was a stable secular country with a leader who was in the process of westernizing the nation at the time in stark contrast to it’s neighbor. It seemed like a good ally at the time. I wonder if you understand the idea of a regional balance of powerand how that event in the neighboring country changed it?

    “didn’t we know about the Kurds then? didn’t we know about his abuses then?
    was Reagan that incompetent. i think he wan’t. that makes it worse.”

    Gee why didn’t hitler’s mother have an abortion since he was going to go on and kill all of those people? It’s really easy to go back in hindsight and judge others, but events are far more complex in the present and much harder to deal with. Any non-simpleton should be able to understand that.

    “we dealt with the devil & you’re stuck complaining about Teddy’s misdemeanor.
    makes sense. ”

    At the very least it should be negligent homicide from what I’ve read about the incident. Yet you think leaving someone for dead being a misdemeanor makes sense? Wow.

  23. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:03 AM on November 7th, 2006

    35-what treason? – was he convicted in secret? you want him in jail for treason & murder – peejz(so far) just for murder: The tapes prove he is guilty, therefore he is. Kinda like the Nixon tapes

  24. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 11:07 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Did anyone see John Stewert’s “School House Rock” Version of the mid-term elecdtions?

    It was a hilarious!

  25. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:13 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Jeff Gannon not seeing wave of blue

  26. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:19 AM on November 7th, 2006

    41- I didn’t see it, but I did catch Colbert! :lol:

  27. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:35 AM on November 7th, 2006

    44-again – apparently law enforcement thinks you’re attributing things to the event that don’t rise to the level of a crime. Where did you et that info from? I haven’t seen any law enforcement coming forward and saying that they are not going to prosecute..

    45-Why would I need to forgive him?

  28. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 11:45 AM on November 7th, 2006

    Err can anyone give me directions to the the Harbour in Atlanta, I have some tea that needs dumping…. No Taxation without representation….. No taxation without representation….

  29. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 11:47 AM on November 7th, 2006

    I’ve already voted, here in Ohio. It went very smooth.

    My split was 5 Reps and 2 Dems, not counting judges (they are elected here).

  30. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:53 AM on November 7th, 2006
  31. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:56 AM on November 7th, 2006

    48- I was in and out in 15 minutes. Had to split my tiket due to Board of Regents at the University level… The lines were moving and no problems in my area..We have good weather, but I have seen parts of MI have rain which will effect turnout!

  32. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 12:12 PM on November 7th, 2006

    51.

    Rain here in Ohio too.

  33. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 12:17 PM on November 7th, 2006

    I was in and out ok. The Diebold machine only voted once for me. Even had a Democrat union goon acting as poll watcher. Couple of lawyers came in looking for problems. I was ready to powerbomb them as they had parked in a handicapped parking place and neither was older than 25 and both quite healthy.

    Shitto, as to your rejection of documents and recording of Ted Kennedy’s traitorous acts, you accepted as genuine the non-existant Rather/Mapes Texas ANG documents. Using YOUR standard, I provided more than enough evidence of Fat Teddy’s guilt.

    All this thread shows that shitto is not an honorable person, nor is he credible.

  34. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 12:25 PM on November 7th, 2006

    54- that was written by a democrat complaing about the rovebots:roll:

  35. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 12:29 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Democrats committing massive vote fraud In Philly

    Shitto just wishes he had enough psychotic fellow travellers to rush a Montana Poll to flood the ballot box to defeat Burns like the Democraps are pulling in Philly.

  36. PCD
    November 7, 2006 - 12:42 PM on November 7th, 2006

    56, I bet what is going on with Kilo can’t be printed here unless someone calms him down.

    Also figures that shitto runs as acknowledgement that he lost.

  37. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 12:42 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Sis and I used to debate on another board together. She’s a good bloke.

  38. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 12:48 PM on November 7th, 2006
  39. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 01:00 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Re 59:

    The Dems have 11,000 lawyers ready to file suits on their behalf. :cry:

  40. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 01:04 PM on November 7th, 2006

    South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford Not Allowed To Vote At His Home Precinct

    Said kos of this: “If South Carolina had vote by mail, this wouldn’t be a problem. The frickin’ governor shouldn’t have to deal with bureaucracy to cast his vote.”

    Yes kos, he should be expected to bring his card as required by the laws he is sworn to uphold!

  41. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 01:05 PM on November 7th, 2006

    60- and that is the new election process of the 21st century:sad:

  42. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 01:47 PM on November 7th, 2006

    My first thought after reading this was: PAC’s and elections…Political heavyweights question Wal-Mart’s motives:”A state senator and two Congressional leaders have voiced their dismay over Wal-Mart involving itself in the race for Antioch City Council.

    Sen. Tom Torlakson, D-Antioch; and U.S. Reps. Ellen Tauscher, D-Alamo, and George Miller, D-Martinez, argued this week that the retail giant is simply trying to buy a vote on the Council and advance its own business agenda.

    “It’s a bully tactic,”Torlakson said. “They’re trying to buy the election and bully the process. What they did is legal, but it’s an issue the voters of Antioch should look at very carefully when such a huge corporate entity comes in and tries to strong-arm local elections and the democratic process.”

    The comments come after the national chain spent $50,722.01 on fliers and other materials supporting candidate Manny Soliz.

  43. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 01:55 PM on November 7th, 2006

    One legal immigrant…. one vote….

  44. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 01:57 PM on November 7th, 2006

    agreed Redfred….I thought of you this am…with all the guff your state got in 2000 with the elderly, they appear to be the only state that doesn’t have “confusion” at the polls:razz:

  45. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 01:58 PM on November 7th, 2006

    56 BTW nice link to a blog linking another blog that is trying to find a legitimate news source …. News just in … REDFRED’s Blog Calls the election process for the democrats… President Bush resigns…

  46. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 02:00 PM on November 7th, 2006

    65… not my state anymore… but thanks for thinking of me none the less.

  47. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 02:17 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Does Redfred see both houses going? I think one will go, but not both..I won’t guess which because I think that the races are all close and I really think the left has to get through this day without losing ground on their races….They had the more difficult task this season in that they had to retain and gain…jmo..

    Still in the South? How’s the renovation going?

  48. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 02:26 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Redfred shakes his magic eight ball……. “my sources say yes”….. Honestly I have not been able to follow things very closely, from what I have read, I think the Dems have a reasonable chance at it…

  49. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 02:29 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Hey, I just realized, My daughter can vote, I should call her and make sure she knows to vote democrat down the line…

  50. Robert
    November 7, 2006 - 02:35 PM on November 7th, 2006

    The question at this point may be: How is the organized Democrite fraud machine doing? in races this close, the fraud vote may very well carry the day.

    In local races, a few thousand votes can do it. The massive organized Democrite fraud machine is easily capable of delivering that.

    And of course they are already laying the groundwork for their almost inevitable legal challenges. I am prediciting it now: In the next 48 hours you will hear all about disenfranchised minorities, Karl Rove puppetmaster manipulations, Diebold, you name it. It’ll make hanging chads and dimpled chads look tame by comparison.

    What the Democrite crime syndicate cannot get fairly and honestly they’ll get by any, I mean any, means necessary.

  51. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 02:36 PM on November 7th, 2006

    70- Make sure she votes..her voice should count..I would prefer a straight R ticket though:wink:

  52. Robert
    November 7, 2006 - 02:38 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Yes, Redfred! And as long as she votes Democrite, she should vote at every precinct you can get her to! :grin:

    Our dog took a dump on the front lawn today; I think she wants to vote. I am interpreting that as a Democrite vote. :lol:

  53. Redfred
    November 7, 2006 - 03:06 PM on November 7th, 2006

    :-) I have dispatched my wife to assist her, Though it scares me she will vote as she sees fit.

    Robert, Are you comparining my daughter to the ex contents of your Dogs colon? You sir are a cad, and be dammed with you.

  54. Robert
    November 7, 2006 - 03:13 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Redfred, no I am not! Honest, and apologize for the confusion. I should have broken that up into two posts.

  55. Robert (John Kerry)
    November 7, 2006 - 03:15 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Here’s my JK apology: I regret that you misunderstood my joke…

  56. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 05:23 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Does anyone realizre that Ohio made history today?

    This is the first time an entire state voted electronically.

  57. Robert (John Kerry)
    November 7, 2006 - 05:35 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Well we know of course that if Republicans win in Ohio, the election was:

    1. Stolen by an evil Rovian/Vast Right Wing Conspiracy plot.
    2. Rove personally reprogrammed those machines to vote Republican.
    3. Al Gore actually won in 2000.

  58. TedintheShed
    November 7, 2006 - 06:12 PM on November 7th, 2006

    That’s wrong Robert, it would be:

    1. Stolen by an evil Rovian/Vast Right Wing Conspiracy plot.
    B. Rove personally reprogrammed those machines to vote Republican.
    III. Al Gore actually won in 2000.

    and last, but not least,

    pi: Bill Clinton is God.

  59. K
    November 7, 2006 - 06:23 PM on November 7th, 2006

    I can’t believe the same gang is still going at it after 2 years. Shiloh is still around? Wow.

  60. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 08:21 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Hello all…

  61. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 08:31 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Did you vote SF?

  62. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:12 PM on November 7th, 2006

    I sure did. I voted straight Democratic Party. No third parties this year.

    I don’t have cable tv, but have been peeking at the net all night when I can…

    I gotta admit that I’m pretty excited by what I’m seeing. (!)

    :cool:

  63. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:26 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Peejz- looks like Granhom won…but at least Prop. 2 passed.

    I assume you were for it?

  64. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:27 PM on November 7th, 2006

    83-It looks like it is confirmed that the Democrats took the house, but the Senate hangs on 3 remaining out there….We still won’t know for sure as Webb/Allen will be headed to a recount as the race is within the margin of recount possibility…

  65. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:30 PM on November 7th, 2006

    I feel very bad for Ford, Jr. I was really hoping he’d win.

    :cry:

  66. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:33 PM on November 7th, 2006

    My CA Dem Phil Angelides got terminated by Ahnold tonight. CNN saying 62 to 34.

    No real surprise, but, still…

  67. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:37 PM on November 7th, 2006

    It’s looking good for Webb so far…

    (fingers crossed)

  68. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:40 PM on November 7th, 2006

    Granholm did win..and yes I voted yes to prop 2! Link

    DETROIT (AP) – Michigan voters have approved Proposal 2, eliminating the use of race and gender preferences in public university admissions and government hiring

  69. Peejz
    November 7, 2006 - 11:44 PM on November 7th, 2006

    88- It’s looking good for a recount for Webb..he is losing but very very small %… I like Harold Ford jr., but I think he didn’t do a good job campaigning…I don’t understand why he gave up his seat in Congress..I always followed him and liked what I saw..

  70. San Francisco Liberal
    November 7, 2006 - 11:52 PM on November 7th, 2006

    So…how long before the House passes a Universal Health Care Act?

    :wink:

  71. Sasha
    November 8, 2006 - 09:07 AM on November 8th, 2006

    91: The division in the House sits on a knife’s edge. I think there may be talk about it, but it will likely be more gridlock and noise than usual.

  72. Rocky Lore
    November 10, 2006 - 07:00 AM on November 10th, 2006

    I notice this: Republicans lose elections and they are satisfied with the fact that the people voted. Democrats lose and cry “Stolen election! WAH!”

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