It has changed for the worst. Instead of deflectionist tactics, care toi address the points I actually made. Of course, I will address yours:

1) Slavery: at the time of our forefaters, slavery was not the moral dilemma of today’s world. Although there were some revolutionaries that saw slavery as morally maligned, you are applying a present perspective to a past situation. That doesn’t work.

2) The internet. Yes, it is “better”. I have learned that the vast mmajority of people are idiots. oh, I guess it’s not. No really, all the joking aside the fact tyhe internet exists makes the world no less better or worse.

“It’s not so bad.”

Care to expand upon that? I certainly did.

“Wow; I don’t even know where to start with that comment for so many reasons. But yes, the deaths of 2 Millions Iraqis is a real possibility.

(and that it was the Vietnamese military that stopped the deaths in Cambodia”

Please start.

But for your clarification: Yes, I know Pol Pot was in Cambodia. (Please tell me you understood the implications of our withdrawal from the area)

“the America of our forefathers is dead.”

Absolutely not. It has only changed. The America of our forefathers had slaves and no internet. It is better now.

“The Democrites will be expecting two years of what they have been doing to Bush and the repubs; obstruction, smear, dirt, etc.”

That’s the funniest part to me. The idiot Democrats are going to play the next 2 years smart. I really think 2008 is going to be a good year for Democrats. (I so wish I had time to dig up all the people who called me an idiot for suggesting that power between the Democrats and Republicans was like pendulum) But it’s like a 12 year swing. It’s already swinging to the left. It’s only going to get worse for Republicans.

“the two party system is already useless as I said above.”

It’s not so bad.

“Remeber what happened when you cut and run from Viet Nam? Pol Pot killed 2,000,000 people.”

Wow; I don’t even know where to start with that comment for so many reasons. But yes, the deaths of 2 Millions Iraqis is a real possibility.

(Please tell me that you know that Pol Pot was in Cambodia and not Viet Nam)

(and that it was the Vietnamese military that stopped the deaths in Cambodia)

You heard correctly: 4-6 months.

Remeber what happened when you cut and run from Viet Nam? Pol Pot killed 2,000,000 people.

Mark these words: If that happens, we’ll be back in the Middle East very soon. And this time it won’t be in one nation (Iraq) it’ll be on several fronts. And it won’t be 150,000 troops, it will be 500,000+ and the draft will be reinstated. And our casualties, and the cost, will be 10x.

It was stupid management of the aftermath of WWI that set the stage for WWII. This mismanagement will set the stage for WWIII.

The dark cloud of Democrite policy is already starting to cover the USA.

Here is the next inxstallment Peejz. Short but sweet.

Earlier I said I believe America’s citizens has lost their will (post #7). To that end, I say we stood at a crossroads and took the wrong fork.

We will never win a military conflict again…ever. When the aspirations of politician undermine our national willpower, this becomes impossible.

So, we no longer need an army.

Disband our military for we will never have a use for it. No one will attack us anyway- we are already conquered.

I am probably a bit naive and a bit idealistic:wink:, but I disagree that the COTUS is worthless….”My Constitution is a very flexible Constitution.” — Justice Scalia

Taxation: Agree 100%

eminent domain: that Kelo case scared the hell out of me…I see exactly what you are talking about, but I had the good fortune of being able to vote on a ballot initiaive that passed in Michigan that prohibits e.d. Okay, it took a lot of work to assure myself and fellow citizens that a b.s. ruling by the SCOTUS can’t affect us, but it was well worth my vote…but it will take 49 other states to do the exact same thing….We the people need to start doing our jobs….our job is to hold the elected officials and life long appointments accountable..that is not limited to the federal level..it amazes me how much people don’t know about their state constitutions.

I think I understand where your fear is coming from, as I think we are fearing the exact same things…I will chose to fight those that wish to harm this nation..I hope you will join me… I do want you to expand on you thoughts..

Now I want to share something with you…my bil and I are total opposites..he is strong union democrat and then theres me…I expected a snotty e-mail on Wednesday teasing me..instead i got a really nice phone call…guess who switched parties?:shock: We got into the reasons he decided to vote Republican…our State is in the toilet and Granholm is so far in the unions pockets it isn’t going to get better any time soon…He hates the war, but he took a comment i made to heart..I asked him how his Dad would feel, as a Vet of WWII, if we just retreated. Of course at the time of the original talk, we retreated to lines from Animal House..Over? Nothings over…but he also saw the benefits of the economic policies that Bush & Co put forth, he is starting to get freaked out by the ACLU and the public school systems etc…I guess turning 50 has that affect on people…

Anyway..I would love to hear the rest of what you have to say..

They already share the bottom of the barrel with the Dems- why do you think the Dems gained control of Congress?

The scandel ridden Republicans.

Besides, the two party system is already useless as I said above.

While dirt and smear works, if the Republicans do that, it will render the two party system useless and our system permanentloy partisan gridlocked. The Democrites have never cared about invoking that (selling their souls to the devil) because they think they’ll win and don’t care about the cost.

So what do the republicans do now? Take the high road and let the Democrites have sole posession of the bottom of the barrel?