149-86
That was the first rebuke the Democrats handed nancy Pelosi. Rep. Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland is the new majority leader.
Allahpundit wonders how much of this was influenced by Abizaid (and Zinni and Batiste) all saying in the past 48 hours that a quick withdrawal from Iraq would be catastrophic. It’d be hard for the Dems to support that position with Murtha as majority leader.

November 16, 2006 - 03:56 PM on November 16th, 2006
Are the Dems in rebellion to their leaders? Do they truly want positive change, and are tired of their leader’s empty rhetoric?
Only time will tell.
November 16, 2006 - 08:43 PM on November 16th, 2006
â€Do they truly want positive change, and are tired of their leader’s empty rhetoric?â€
Holy shit! You Republicans are so screwed in 2008 and you don’t even get it yet.
Senator Mccain is your only hope. (pendulum)
November 17, 2006 - 07:57 PM on November 17th, 2006
“Senator Mccain is your only hope.”
Nah. McCain doesn’t get it either, Zelda. His Iraq Solution is to INCREASE troop levels.
That’s a real winner of an idea there, John.
These people just…don’t…get it.
November 18, 2006 - 12:17 AM on November 18th, 2006
Zelda, you just don’t get it yet.
I am NOT a Republican- I never have been and I never will be. I hate the parties with the very core of my being.
Please, stop making such ignorant assumptions.
As for this: “Senator Mccain is your only hope.” I agree with with SFL, but not for the reason stated. I see no hope on the horizon from either party.
It was intersting to me that the House Dems did not vote per their acknowledged their leader.
That is a good sign, IMO.
Zel
November 19, 2006 - 09:10 PM on November 19th, 2006
For once I am going to have to agree with Bill Clinton. He said the other day that the slim majority and even slimmer margins for victory for the Dems did NOT represent a mandate only a chance to prove that can do better. With fewer than 10,000 votes separating the winners from losers in many of the Democratic victories, and many of the new Dems actually being CONSERVATIVE Democrats, the liberals may find themselves sadly disappointed. For the Dems to retain their majorities they can’t try and push through any major liberal agendas or the BLUE DOG Dems will be tossed out and the Republicans will regain power. For the Democratic party to regain its national prominence, it’ll have to return to the conservative ideals of John Kennedy instead of the drunken idiocy of his youngest brother. Remember JFK said “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.” That hardly sounds like the current Democratic party that pushes for gun control, unlimited welfare, confiscatory tax rates, and universal health care.
November 20, 2006 - 07:12 PM on November 20th, 2006
I tried to post here last night but I was blocked.
November 20, 2006 - 07:31 PM on November 20th, 2006
6- Let me see why..sorry!
November 20, 2006 - 07:44 PM on November 20th, 2006
I posted; I didn’t see it; so I tried to post again. It told me something like “you already posted this…”. I don’t suspect any malice.
I basically said that…
“Do they truly want positive change, and are tired of their leader’s empty rhetoric?”applies to both sides.
Also, that I didn’t really mean Senator McCain so much as someone more realistic and open minded.
“Let me see why..sorry!”Now I feel bad. I’m not trying to make more work for you…
November 20, 2006 - 07:51 PM on November 20th, 2006
Zelda- I appreciate knowing when people get caught in the spam filter..it’s a pain, but it really is a good system..I too get caught up in it. Don’t be surprised if your comment shows up within the week,as it won’t delete you. You are caught in the moderation mode.I went to bed Saturday night and had cleared out the spam, by the time I woke up in the morning, there were 2300 sitting in spam:eek: