In case you’re among the many who mute your television sets at the very sight of his Juiceness, he’s back again to sell something. The last time we saw O.J. he was trying to sell an Internet-based reality show around his life on the links, among other things.
This time he’s selling a book, called “If I Did It,” which is being billed by Simpson as a how-to guide to murdering his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman — if he did it.
Mike Straka, and employee of Fox, is disgusted by the fact that his company is promoting this. He points out that none of the money made off this venture will go to OJ. He has ganishments in place, forcing him to settle his debt with the Brown and Goldman family. I couldn’t help but wonder who ticked OJ off enough to have him float the second assailant theory. I also think that this is a way for OJ to make the families suffer more. It will be yet another venture for him, but those families will be eaten up with the unanswered questions.
More of Simple Simpson’s oral diarrhea. Still lying through his teeth. He’s guilty, everyone with an IQ over 40 knows he’s guilty. Only reason he was found innocent was the itimidation of the jury. Black Muslims and Jessie Jackson made their presence known. I firmly believe the jurie members, feared what the “Fruits” of Islam would do to them, if they did’nt play dumb about all the DNA evidence.
Actually I think his lawyers were so far above the incompetance of Clark and Darden..they out manuvered them. Ito did a terrible job presiding over the case,but I do believe that the LA District Attorney blew it…
Good point, I think it was a combanation of what you said and what I said. But anyone with more brains then a toad stool knows he’s guilty.
Agreed!
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here for a moment. The DNA evidence was circumstantial at best. This was a case of investigative incompetence and prosecutorial misconduct. Not entirely unlike the Jeffrey MacDonald case. The police set their sights on OJ and never did what would be called a thorough investigation. The DNA evidence was horribly mishandled. It was simply too degraded to get a positive match. It only narrowed the suspect pool to one in 1500. That meant that there were over 5,000 possible suspects within 25 miles of the crime scene. That’s the most glaring example of investigative incompetence. Not making sure that the gloves fit BEFORE filing charges is a huge example of prosecutorial misconduct. Marcia Clark was so busy trying to make herself look like a feminine F. Lee Bailey that she failed to make sure that her case was in fact winnable.
I’m in agreement with Col. Jeff Cooper, the founder of the Gunsite firearms training academy. His response about the whole thing was that he wasn’t saying whether OJ was guilty or not, only that had Nicole Brown Simpson had taken responsibility for her own safety, gotten a gun and had learned to use it, she’d have been a wealthy widow versus a murder victim.
had Nicole Brown Simpson had taken responsibility for her own safety, gotten a gun and had learned to use it, she’d have been a wealthy widow versus a murder victim. You know normally, I would concur, but don’t you think she would be sitting on death row because she killed “the Juice”:razz:
Good point FAO..all joking aside, you are correct:wink:
Actually Peejz, OJ had broken into Nicole’s home just a few weeks before the murders and had beaten her. Had she gotten the gun and instruction immediately upon moving out, instead of relying on the police (Who have NO legal responsibility to protect ANY individual), she could’ve simply shot him then and probably had it declared self defense.
… in two words? WHO CARES?
Eben Re 8:
: in two words? WHO CARES?
I thought you Dems were supposed to be the “caring” type?
But to answer your question: I would say that at least Nicole Brown Simpson’s and Ron Goldman’s families do.
I don’t care about a beauty queen and some waiter who have no real impact on my life.
I care that any murderer (as I see Mr. Simpson) would not only make a mockery of the Justice system but then wait ten years to literally thumb his nose at it.
That last part’s what I “care” about. Nothing more.
Personally I don’t know the Browns or the Goldmans and I feel fairly safe in assuming the press will be all over it so they can stomp their feet about the injustice of it all.
Interesting you’d posture yourself as an advocate for the underdog.
However I’m glad to see you like them… you really really like them.:wink:
Re 11 Enon:
I don’t care about a beauty queen and some waiter who have no real impact on my life.
I care that any murderer (as I see Mr. Simpson) would not only make a mockery of the Justice system but then wait ten years to literally thumb his nose at it.
That last part’s what I “care”about. Nothing more.
Personally I don’t know the Browns or the Goldmans and I feel fairly safe in assuming the press will be all over it so they can stomp their feet about the injustice of it all.
Interesting you’d posture yourself as an advocate for the underdog.
However I’m glad to see you like them: you really really like them.
This goes a long way towards explaining the attitude shift of the Dems. You folks are nose to nose with the Reps.
I would care about anyone who looses a relative they care dearly for under any circumstances: whether is to folks who children;s a murderer who goes free, to a soldier’s mother, to the mother of a child that dies as a result of terrorist attacks or collateral damage.
Caring about people is not circumstancial to the political relationship of the situation. It is unfortunate that is what dictates whom you care about.
As for as my so-called “posturing”, I do not do so for or against the underdog. It is irrelevant.
Caring about people is not circumstancial to the political relationship of the situation. It is unfortunate that is what dictates whom you care about.
“who” you care about. The ‘whom’, when used, needs to be the object of a prepostion.
Be that as it may; I care about people significant to my personal reality and that of world peace.
Neither the late Mrs. Simpson nor the late Mr. Goldman fits into either of these categories Ted.
Jeepers! You’re a feisty little confrontational guy aren’t cha?
Are you using a biology class dissecting kit to examine my every last word? Well so be it. Have fun.:lol:
“who”you care about. The ‘whom’, when used, needs to be the object of a prepostion.
In my years of doing this, I’ve found that the last refuge of those who have no legitimate basis for their opinions is that od spelling and grammar corrections.
Be that as it may; I care about people significant to my personal reality and that of world peace.
Neither the late Mrs. Simpson nor the late Mr. Goldman fits into either of these categories Ted.
That is a very narrow world view. indeed it is what contributes to problems like homelessness and world wide hunger.
“Jeepers! You’re a feisty little confrontational guy aren’t cha?”
Yes I am. The enemy of correcting the course of this great nation is hypocricy, irrationality and brazen partisanship. I have no issue confronting those.
“Are you using a biology class dissecting kit to examine my every last word? Well so be it. Have fun.”
Indeed, I am not. It should not be me that does so, but you.
hey!
I was kind. I didn’t comment on your ending that sentence with a preposition!!:eek: It is unfortunate that is what dictates whom you care about.
:wink:
Oh lighten up. Grammar’s important to me. I thought you’d like to be more mindful of trying to remember those lessons of old.
‘homelessness’… ‘worldwide hunger’?? Oh okay. You just like to nit pick like a Bill O’Reilly. Well Dave was clever enough to fall for and I won’t either. Like Dave I suspect that sixty percent of what you say is just crap.
But more topically, I remain more than a bit skeptical that your real intent has much of anything to do with this once ‘great nation’ of ours.
Was that you I saw after Katrina wading through those streets Ted? Yup, I thought it was.
I am wondering how Eban comes up with the fact that Dave won anything? The audience was receptive to O’Reilly, and as soon as they were, Letterman pouted..if he didn’t want the ratings, he wouldn’t have him on..he does have the power to decide that..Dave ended up looking like a buffoon..a pouty buffoon..
It’s “Eben” Peejz.
Did we see the same Letterman show?
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WacUxwGY-wo
As Dave says “have you lost family members in armed conflict?”
Send the twins George! Send the twins. Then I’ll take you seriously. (Maybe):roll:
Yes I saw it..Why would George send his twins? It is up to the twins to volunteer. Just like Casey Sheehan did..There are many parents that did lose kids in battle that don’t agree with Cindy Sheehan. They too speak out. Cindy chose to be a spokesperson, therefore people have the right to criticize her…
re #17Why would George send his twins? It is up to the twins to volunteer.
to give himself some modicum of credibility…
In the Diane Sawyer interview several years ago now she said “Mr.President, do you have any idea how it must feel to have military officers come to your door to tell you your child is dead?”
Bush’s response after smiling nervously:
“Of course I don’t”
That’s right. Of course he doesn’t.
Then I say let’s strongly suggest he have the twins volunteer and then I’ll believe he has the same respect for American life he’d maintain he does on oh-so-many-fronts.
It’d give him much-needed creedence.
“credence”
Eben, have you volunteered? Have you marched your kids down to the recruiter’s office?
Better yet, have you made a public legal document saying that you oppose the US fighting the war on terror and that if the US is attacked, you can be killed without legal sanction upon the killer?
I thought not. YOU just want to make your fool’s arguments because you have nothing else.
Oh lighten up. Grammar’s important to me. I thought you’d like to be more mindful of trying to remember those lessons of old.
Wait-a-sec. You are the correcting grammar errors and telling me to lighten up?
Oh, the irony…:lol:
‘homelessness’: ‘worldwide hunger’?? Oh okay. You just like to nit pick like a Bill O’Reilly. Well Dave was clever enough to fall for and I won’t either. Like Dave I suspect that sixty percent of what you say is just crap.
No, I don’t. You may suspect that, but I suspect that no matter what I say you would not accpt it as it does not fit your world view. You have in common a narrowmindness with both letterman and O”reilly, it would seem.
But more topically, I remain more than a bit skeptical that your real intent has much of anything to do with this once ‘great nation’ of ours.
I agree- it was once a great nation, but no longer. I suspect we see differently rgarding the reasons on this.
Was that you I saw after Katrina wading through those streets Ted? Yup, I thought it was
If you wish to throw those cards on the table…
No it wasn’t. I did what I could, donating my entire income tax return (almost $5000.00, which is a large part of my income).
Oh and yes, I have taken in the homeless when I lived in town. Ohio can have very cold winters- ones that I have expereinced first hand. I had a family of four living in my basement of my modest 900 square foot home for over a month and have taken on various sinle homeless folk ober the years.
Here is what you don’t know about me, Eben: I grew up dirt poor. Appalacian poor. I know what it is like.
So, what did you do for the homeless? The victims of Katrina? The victims of the tsunami? Or are they not “people significant to (your) personal reality and that of world peace”?
I’m glad to have a bit of your biography Ted.
I grew priviledged in a well-to-do family of the “old school” sort of Republican. The legacy of propriety was wonderful.
My people are fiscal conservatives and liberals when it comes to human rights. Most “old school” Republicans were.
I spent two weeks in and around New Orleans last September Ted. That’s what I did. It may as well be a third world country I can tell you firsthand and it’s a disgrace to us all as Americans.
So it appears we both did what we could.
Let’s unite forces and advise everyone help. What say you?
re PCD 20.
Volunteered?
No. Nor would I since I was wary of George’s intent from the time of 9/11.
And even if I were in favor of it that wouldn’t want my aging arse. I’m not inclined to see war as solution no matter what the condition of said ‘arse’ either.
Be that as it may PCD;
I think your insulting me by implying I’m a ‘fool’ says a good deal more about our respective ability at ‘argument’ than you may think.:wink:
“Let’s unite forces and advise everyone help. What say you?”
Evidently, you missed the jist of this “feisty little confrontational guy”.
Then we won’t. You do anything you like.
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That’s not what I said at all.
then feel free to illuminate Ted.
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I believe I already did in post 13.
ah good! Then I guess we’re precisely in tune with one another.
“It’s a good thing”
Indeed- whenever anyone can use rational conversation to at last illuminate ones differences if not entirely agree, it is a good thing.
Again, ignorance is the enemy of all.
Speaking hypothetically of course, somebody needs to take action on this mother fucker. Where are the extremists when we actually need one. This mother fucker is making a fuckin’ mockery of our legal system. One of the fundamental aspects of our society. He’s a fuckin’ killer, everybody knows it, and he’s walking around free. If that’s not enough, now he’s shovin’ that shit into the faces of the victim’s families and the rest of the nation.
It is damn well time a vigilante steps up and takes care of this shit. All we need is one good crazy mother fuckin ex-marine style mother fucker.
In my opinion the best way to hypothetically do it would be public execution style assassination. Find out where this fucker plays golf. Find a clear line of site to one of the driving areas. Wait for him to tee up. And take his fuck ass out with a high powered sniper rifle. It will take the police at least twenty minutes to figure what direction the shot came from. And that’s if our ex-marine isn’t using a silencer. Plenty of time to escape.
And as far as prosecution goes. I think the entire country has a motive for killing his ass right now. So if he got out of killing two people when he was basically caught red handed, I think our man could get off as well, if he’s caught.
I am hypothetically begging for someone to stand up and take action on this man. I think it would be a patriotic act. Don’t let this man continue to mock our society so openly.
I’d stand up and do it myself, but I have neither the proper training nor the nerve for this sort of job. But someone out there does.
And I hypothetically hope that someone does.
Daddy
31- And the hypothetical assassin would find themselves in a prison cell facing life in prison and/or the death penalty. Rightfully so. Our justice system worked in the OJ case. He is innocent in the eyes of the criminal court system. The anger should be directed at the law enforcement and DA’s office. The cops bungled evidence, allowed a celebrity to get away with abuse prior to the murder, and the DA put 2 incompetant attorny’s up against some of the greatest legal minds in the country.
Our justice system worked in the OJ case.
I agree that he was found innocent in the eyes of the court, but how can you say that the system “worked.” If a killer goes free (or if an innocent man goes to the chair), the system “worked?” I’d be willing to accept the idea that it “functioned,” but “worked” seems a bit excessive.
The cops bungled evidence, allowed a celebrity to get away with abuse prior to the murder, and the DA put 2 incompetant attorny’s up against some of the greatest legal minds in the country.
Hmmmm. Maybe “functioned” is also going too far. The ultimate moral of the OJ debacle seems to be that in this country, if you’re rich enough, you can get away with murder.
33- The state failed to prove their case, therefore the justice system worked..it isn’t that difficult to grasp.
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Wow, that’s an incredibly cynical stance. I guess that the system works when any child molester or serial killer goes free, or when an innocent man dies in the gas chamber.
Or is the system unjust even when it “works”?
There isn’t anything cynical about it. What are the circumstances surrounding the child molestor going free? Why did the serial killer go free?
The system isn’t unjust, it is when the human element enters the equation, that problems arise.
This is a good example of someone that should not be walking the streets.
36.
“The system isn’t unjust, it is when the human element enters the equation, that problems arise.”
Riiiight. The judicial system works great when there are no cops or judges or lawyers or plaintifs or defendants involved.
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Riiiight. The judicial system works great when there are no cops or judges or lawyers or plaintifs or defendants involved.
I love “Robot Court!”