Comments on: Your Stupidity Has Nothing To Do With The Patriot Act http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:20:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-282121 FrmrArtyOffcr Mon, 20 Nov 2006 02:54:31 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-282121 I worked in a late night study room in college. While it technically closed at midnight, I was supposed to have it completely vacuumed, and the trash removed by midnight. Some of the students would get outright hostile when I came through with the shop vac at 11:45 pm. Luckily I'm big enough noone wanted to try and get physical over it, but they did make some nasty comments. They complained that they didn't have to leave until midnight, so I simply replied that I wasn't throwing them out, but I still had to vacuum the place before midnight. Seeing as they refused to pay me on more than one occasion for working past midnight because of the ignorant twits, they got no sympathy from me when I came through to vacuum. Besides, I needed to get home to study for my classes. I worked in a late night study room in college. While it technically closed at midnight, I was supposed to have it completely vacuumed, and the trash removed by midnight. Some of the students would get outright hostile when I came through with the shop vac at 11:45 pm. Luckily I’m big enough noone wanted to try and get physical over it, but they did make some nasty comments. They complained that they didn’t have to leave until midnight, so I simply replied that I wasn’t throwing them out, but I still had to vacuum the place before midnight. Seeing as they refused to pay me on more than one occasion for working past midnight because of the ignorant twits, they got no sympathy from me when I came through to vacuum. Besides, I needed to get home to study for my classes.

]]> By: Tel-Chai Nation http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281766 Tel-Chai Nation Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:32:59 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281766 <strong>Troublemaking Muslim student gets tasered, police-</strong> The UCLA had a Muslim student who defied campus police, refused to show an ID, and shreiked instead of just leaving a library laboratory cooperatively when the time came. You can see this video to find out just what happened (via Michelle Malkin), an... Troublemaking Muslim student gets tasered, police-

The UCLA had a Muslim student who defied campus police, refused to show an ID, and shreiked instead of just leaving a library laboratory cooperatively when the time came. You can see this video to find out just what happened (via Michelle Malkin), an…

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281749 TedintheShed Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:28:24 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281749 <em>"the fact that you have already decided is immaterial."</em> Also just as immaterial is the fact that you have already decided. And now, I will present first hand accounts that counter-act post #3. My best friend works at the State Patrol as an active police officer. He has been tasered, and he allowed myself to be tasered as well. The assertion in post 3 that you can not move after being tasered in false. Besided the thumping in my skull, I could moved just fine after a full 5 second charge. “the fact that you have already decided is immaterial.”

Also just as immaterial is the fact that you have already decided.

And now, I will present first hand accounts that counter-act post #3. My best friend works at the State Patrol as an active police officer. He has been tasered, and he allowed myself to be tasered as well. The assertion in post 3 that you can not move after being tasered in false. Besided the thumping in my skull, I could moved just fine after a full 5 second charge.

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281544 Peejz Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:20:02 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281544 It is not for the students to decide what is proportional. The police are well within their right to do this...even CA has laws...his own words and actions will be his downfall in a suit..one can take down a facebook page, but it is retrivable... It is not for the students to decide what is proportional. The police are well within their right to do this…even CA has laws…his own words and actions will be his downfall in a suit..one can take down a facebook page, but it is retrivable…

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281487 Peejz Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:23:32 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281487 Shiloh, he walked out of the library. No one disputed he was tased multiple times. The campus safety officers needed to call the police who stunned him. Take a look at 8, it is from another person who was there..bottom line is, the kid brought this upon himself... Shiloh, he walked out of the library. No one disputed he was tased multiple times. The campus safety officers needed to call the police who stunned him.

Take a look at 8, it is from another person who was there..bottom line is, the kid brought this upon himself…

]]> By: Arcane http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281376 Arcane Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:14:24 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281376 On YouTube, someone made a comment that I agreed with completely: "Regardless of what the individual said or done, electrocuting someone who is on the floor and not posing a threat to the safety of the officers and threatening to electrocute other innocent individuals is totally unjustified and an abuse of power. Tasers should be used as a last resort." As the officer quoted on Malkin's site said, if the police would have not been afraid of being in another Rodney King, "that guy would have been jacked up and carried out in under 30 seconds, without tasers, noise, or video." It's a pity. If the guy actually had a reasonable cause or an objective, I would have felt an odd sympathy for him. Now I think he just hates police. On YouTube, someone made a comment that I agreed with completely:

“Regardless of what the individual said or done, electrocuting someone who is on the floor and not posing a threat to the safety of the officers and threatening to electrocute other innocent individuals is totally unjustified and an abuse of power. Tasers should be used as a last resort.”

As the officer quoted on Malkin’s site said, if the police would have not been afraid of being in another Rodney King, “that guy would have been jacked up and carried out in under 30 seconds, without tasers, noise, or video.”

It’s a pity. If the guy actually had a reasonable cause or an objective, I would have felt an odd sympathy for him. Now I think he just hates police.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281323 FrmrArtyOffcr Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:05:43 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281323 Hey Fred, unless we get this illegal alien issue dealt with soon, you'll be all too right. Just up and leaving the border wide open allows these third world dirt bags to waltz right in, do whatever the hell they want, and run back south of the border. We had a woman leave her 4 kids with her 17 yr old (What's wrong with this picture? Hint: What's a woman with 4 kids doing haveing a 17 yr old boyfriend?) boyfriend while she went to work. When she got home her three oldest kids were alone and her youngest daughter was dead. Her oldest kids told her that her boyfriend had kicked the 18 mo old in the chest because she wouldn't stop crying. And where was this teenage miscreant? Why he'd jump the border back into Mexico BEFORE the crime had even been discovered. Don't give me that crap about they only want to come here to work. If that were the case, why are illegal aliens only 4 percent of the general population while over 24 percent of the prison population? That means that they are 6 times as likely to be commit felonies than US citizens or legal resident aliens. I heard a statistic that they also represent 90% of the fugitives wanted for murder in Los Angeles as well. Every time they make a huge drug bust here in Arizona, it invariably involves illegal aliens. We need to start securing the border before Fred's forecast becomes true. Hell I can't even read half of the billboards along the highway because they're in Spanish with NO English on them. Now I might be able to understand that for something like El Mexicano food products, but Heinekin beer? Don't the people at Heinekin know that Mexicans buy Bud Light? why are Heinekin ads in Spanish but Corona ads are in English? Hey Fred, unless we get this illegal alien issue dealt with soon, you’ll be all too right. Just up and leaving the border wide open allows these third world dirt bags to waltz right in, do whatever the hell they want, and run back south of the border. We had a woman leave her 4 kids with her 17 yr old (What’s wrong with this picture? Hint: What’s a woman with 4 kids doing haveing a 17 yr old boyfriend?) boyfriend while she went to work. When she got home her three oldest kids were alone and her youngest daughter was dead. Her oldest kids told her that her boyfriend had kicked the 18 mo old in the chest because she wouldn’t stop crying. And where was this teenage miscreant? Why he’d jump the border back into Mexico BEFORE the crime had even been discovered. Don’t give me that crap about they only want to come here to work. If that were the case, why are illegal aliens only 4 percent of the general population while over 24 percent of the prison population? That means that they are 6 times as likely to be commit felonies than US citizens or legal resident aliens. I heard a statistic that they also represent 90% of the fugitives wanted for murder in Los Angeles as well. Every time they make a huge drug bust here in Arizona, it invariably involves illegal aliens.

We need to start securing the border before Fred’s forecast becomes true. Hell I can’t even read half of the billboards along the highway because they’re in Spanish with NO English on them. Now I might be able to understand that for something like El Mexicano food products, but Heinekin beer? Don’t the people at Heinekin know that Mexicans buy Bud Light? why are Heinekin ads in Spanish but Corona ads are in English?

]]> By: Fred Dawes http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281265 Fred Dawes Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:40:25 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281265 "hey boys" America is quickly becoming a third world non nation, the fact is soon tasers and nice words will disappear and just be like any third world cops, someday cops will shot people down like dogs! its normal in a third world so called country to see people dead in the streets after a police killing and L.A. Is becoming the next mexico city. <strong> and who cares? faces facts most of you want a third world America anyway!</strong> “hey boys” America is quickly becoming a third world non nation, the fact is soon tasers and nice words will disappear and just be like any third world cops, someday cops will shot people down like dogs! its normal in a third world so called country to see people dead in the streets after a police killing and L.A. Is becoming the next mexico city.

and who cares?
faces facts most of you want a third world America anyway!

]]> By: Sanity http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-281203 Sanity Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:02:26 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-281203 FrmrArtyOffcr, you presume one trusts the officer. America is quickly entering an age where we're seeing why the founding fathers put in the Second Amendment. FrmrArtyOffcr, you presume one trusts the officer. America is quickly entering an age where we’re seeing why the founding fathers put in the Second Amendment.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/comment-page-1/#comment-280501 FrmrArtyOffcr Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:23:43 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2006/11/17/your-stupidity-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-patriot-act/#comment-280501 Taser's, like real guns, are NOT the be all and end all that the TV makes them out to be. The effect of a taser has a lot to do with how long the user holds the trigger down AFTER the probes make contact. It also has to do with the output of the Taser. They have recently come out with a newer more powerful unit because the older ones weren't as effective on some people as needed. For an example of this, see the original Rodney King video. In it King is tasered and still has the strength to get back up and pull the probes from his body. Short shocks caused by lightly depressing and quickly releasing the trigger can encourage a hostile suspect to cooperate without rendering him incapable of movement. A lot of ACLU types scream about the use of the Taser, but I simply have to ask that, considering the alternative for the safety of the officer is a 9 millimeter or 40 caliber jacketed hollow point, which would you prefer the police officer use? They don't use either one on cooperative subjects. WOuldn't it simply make more sense to encourage people to obey the police officers' commands? Taser’s, like real guns, are NOT the be all and end all that the TV makes them out to be. The effect of a taser has a lot to do with how long the user holds the trigger down AFTER the probes make contact. It also has to do with the output of the Taser. They have recently come out with a newer more powerful unit because the older ones weren’t as effective on some people as needed. For an example of this, see the original Rodney King video. In it King is tasered and still has the strength to get back up and pull the probes from his body. Short shocks caused by lightly depressing and quickly releasing the trigger can encourage a hostile suspect to cooperate without rendering him incapable of movement. A lot of ACLU types scream about the use of the Taser, but I simply have to ask that, considering the alternative for the safety of the officer is a 9 millimeter or 40 caliber jacketed hollow point, which would you prefer the police officer use? They don’t use either one on cooperative subjects. WOuldn’t it simply make more sense to encourage people to obey the police officers’ commands?

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