AL GORE: MOVIE STAR: “That’s a separate question. And it’s almost too easy to say, “I would have heeded the warnings.” In fact, I think I would have, I know I would have. We had several instances when the CIA’s alarm bells went off, and what we did when that happened was, we had emergency meetings and called everybody together and made sure that all systems were go and every agency was hitting on all cylinders, and we made them bring more information, and go into the second and third and fourth level of detail. And made suggestions on how we could respond in a more coordinated, more effective way.” Those meetings didn’t do alot to stop all the terrorist attacks during his watch though did it?!
From ALLAHPUNDIT:The way he and his boss took the first Trade Center attack seriously and the embassy bombings seriously and the U.S.S. Cole bombing seriously. Back we go down memory lane:
O’DONNELL: But many people have made the impression that something in the Bush administration was done wrong. But there’s evidence that the Clinton administration knew full well that bin Laden had the wherewithal and was planning to attack the United States. Who is to blame and did the president, Clinton, get this information?
SCHEUER: Certainly the president got the information. And most certainly his closest adviser, Sandy Berger and Mr. Clarke”Richard Clarke, had the information from 1996 forward that bin Laden intended to attack the United States. There’s no question of that. And in terms of which administration had more chances, Mr. Clinton’s administration had far more chances to kill Osama bin Laden than Mr. Bush has until this day.
O‘DONNELL: That‘s very interesting. I don’t think that many Americans know that or think that everything that they’ve heard”you’ve spent your life tracking Osama bin Laden. From what we know now and what you know, how many missed opportunities were there to prevent the 9/11 attacks?
SCHEUER: Well, we had”the question of whether or not we could have prevented the attacks is one you could debate forever. But we had at least eight to 10 chances to capture or kill Osama bin Laden in 1998 and 1999. And the government on all occasions decided that the information was not good enough to act.
The dolt had 8 years to do something about terrorism, as did his boss. Instead they formalized the wall preventing information from being shared among our LE agencies.
And lemmings everywhere want to follow this false Environmental Prophet right over the cliff!
He would have taken 9/11 warnings seriously?? Ha no body by now should take anything Bore says seriously. What a backward twit.
3- Yea, what the hell would someone that was there know about it. And let’s not forget the fact that the terrorist succeeded from 1993 on without being stopped by this government…:roll:
“You work three jobs? : Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.”"to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 5, 2005
Is she supposed to get a medal? Who cares if she works 1 or 3? It is her responsibility to take care of them…her body her decision…
This baffoon is the same one who was seriouly sure that this year would be abanner year of hurricanes becuase of global warming whata blabbering loud mouth why dont he get a life:razz:
10- I go with what Franks says..the guy that had to put the boots on the ground…I have cited him before and gave you every opportunity to run with the info, but you just didn’t want to pay attention….too bad for you. The book was a fascinating read and did everything the review said it would..too bad the NYT’s didn’t go with Franks, rather than make stuff up..Franks story was so much better and so more damning to all….
so they are more believable than the cia dude I cited? or does it just fit with how you want it to?
Did I miss your historical facts for me to argue against?
16- the fact is that we were contemplating a war in Iraq..I should hope Cheney and other members of the administration were visiting the CIA and asking questions. This all comes on the heels of and prior to the plamegate..does it not? And btw, you overlooked this in the piece:
19- possibililty of undue pressure ..in other words that would be speculation..the fact that you chose to ignore the fact that some felt one way, while other felt another is stupid..
21- I countered it with those that didn’t feel that way..I found it within your source that you asked me to read..it was nothing more than a feeling on their part…it is proof of nothing by either claim..
you didn’t even make room for speculation until i brought it up. No, we have talked extensively about this in previous threads…
23- you lost your title and you won’t be getting it back…I am going to do you a favor and walk you through this…
1. You cited a link that states there were some that felt there was pressure to produce results that Cheney wanted, while others welcomed the questions..those are the facts according to that article..
2. You reject a CIA officer that doesn’t support your desired outcome, but you expect everyone else to accept your CIA source as it fits the outcome you hoped for.
3. The article was written in 03′ just after the invasion.
4. the 9/11 Commission Report came out with a scathing rebuke of the CIA and their ineptness at working well with others..Is the CIA, and the all the other intelligence agencies for that matter, going through a transformation process, in which they are coming out of Cold War mode and being forced to deal with real world issues?
Peejz, don’t confuse shitto with facts. He can’t see beyond his crackpot talking points.
27- I am not putting my eggs in his basket, just showing you that you don’t pay attention to the whole movie that is playing, just the oarts you like: In the case of your link, here is the context of what was being discussed:
1. Simultaneous explosions hit three hotels tonight in Jordan‘s capital city of Amman
2. Guests on the show included: Ambassador Karim Kawar, the Jordanian ambassador to the United States who gave a nice history of terrorism/Jordan,Senator John McCain, GEN. WAYNE DOWNING, NBC NEWS MILITARY ANALYST, who made the statement that ” They want Saudi Arabia, they want Jordan, they want Lebanon. They sure want Iraq because Iraq is the core of that Arab-Islamic world. That‘s what they are after.”, ROBERT BAER, FMR. CIA OFFICER, who said that General Downing has hit the nail on the head, and I would like to even go farther in that what we are seeing is the chaos in Iraq slopping over the border into Jordan. Jordan has a long border with Iraq; weapons can come across very easily.
You have a majority population is Palestinian. They are very proinsurgency in Iraq. And you also have a strong Hamas and Islamic Jihad presence, which uses suicide bombings. In addition to Zarqawi, and until we can stabilize Iraq, I bet you we are going to be seeing more of this in the future.
and finally Michael Scheuer who spoke of what we already knew to be true at that point..
The Leftist History of Terrorism:
Terrorism begain on 9/11/01, when Islamic freedom fighters. realizing the threat from the Neocon Bush team, attacked in self-defense.
Robert- he would argue against that as well:lol: Can’t you just hear him saying PATOOIE, and waving his hand in disgust, to just about anything?
I can visualize that. Arguing against anything, anything at all, that is asserted by anyone he considers to be to the right of center. A more extreme case of what SFL used to do; when on every new topic that was posted here, SFL would be the house contrarian. Just…because…
Robert,
Shitto is losing it. He really isn’t sane and is jealous of those that are.
He really isn’t sane…
I guess he’s got soemthing in common with Jose Padilla then?
I have been saying since the mid 1980′s that Liberalism is a form of mental illness (many years before Michael Savage came up with his version).