Barbara Walters View On Track To De-throne Jerry Springer
“Rosie, of course, is our enormously popular moderator.” Said Walters, to which I would say that so is Jerry Springer. I’ll put money on Walters overtaking Springer! Â
As seen at Stop The ACLU which was crossposted from from MsUnderestimated:
Rosie, of all people, was making fun of The Donald on The View today, and Access Hollywood had both sides of the soon-to-be-interesting spat that is brewing between them. Apparently she thinks he’s no moral authority, but look who’s talking?
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Oh, yeah, and then she hits below the belt with a jab about his father’s death. Niiiice, Rosie. Good luck! The Donald has WAAY more money and clout than you. And you’ll probably find that out soon.
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The Donald had a few choice words of his own for the “loser,” Rosie.Â
Watch the Access video here.
She also has video of the Hildabeast on the View
Barking Moonbat Early Warning System linked with Cat Fight
Leaning Straight Up linked with Rosie O’Donnell vs Donald Trump? save me a seat at this dance
The Political Pit Bull linked with Video: Trump Says He’s Going To Sue Rosie
ALLAHPUNDIT linked with Video: Trump and Rosie go nuclear on each other
ALLAHPUNDIT linked with Video: Round 2 ” Trump versus Rosie
December 21, 2006 - 02:25 PM on December 21st, 2006
Rosie
The Donald 
But seriously he was pretty mean in his remarks about her. Having said that it’s also common knowledge that she can be pretty mean herself. So it looks like she’s met her match.
Go Donald!
December 21, 2006 - 03:47 PM on December 21st, 2006
I love that Rosie took dead aim at the arrogance that is Donald Trump.
“moral compass” indeed. Where’s he get off setting any sort of moral standard. The fellow’s a whore monger.
Who the Christ is Trump to set the standard on anything other than greed?
Rosie’s point is not lost on me. We allow that misanthrope his hedonism without question yet Rosie and Kelly can’t marry. Oh yes. That makes perfect sense.:roll:
About time someone called Trump out.
Kudos Rosie.
December 21, 2006 - 04:10 PM on December 21st, 2006
moral compass”indeed. Where’s he get off setting any sort of moral standard. The fellow’s a whore monger.Who the Christ is Trump to set the standard on anything other than greed? Trump, as the owner of the organization, has the right to keep her or fire her. She is an employee, drawing a salary..that’s what gives him the right. And those moral clauses in her contract!
Trump, as the owner of the organization, has the right to keep her or fire her. She is an employee, drawing a salary..that’s what gives him the right. And those moral clauses in her contract!I guess Rosie really doesn’t have anything but her homosexuality..Oh and her ignorance
December 21, 2006 - 05:16 PM on December 21st, 2006
Rosie, like Trump, is self-made.
I contend it’s much more difficult for that to take place in this society when you’re a female. Nonetheless Rosie’s done it.
She came from a working class background, followed her dreams, realized her dreams through hard work and deliberation. She came out as a lesbian because of the legality around them taking those HIV positive kids from that gay couple in Florida.
She has courage and conviction.
In men you find it attractive.
She’s a lesbian so you take dead aim.
Foul I say.
The very thing you admire in men you admonish in women.
Odd perspective and a decided incongruity.
Rosie is hardly ‘ignorant’. She’s well versed in many varying social topics unlike the preposterous likes of that simpering Elisabeth Hasselbeck. I find her astute and equal the the best (or worst) of them.
Carry on Ro.
December 21, 2006 - 05:39 PM on December 21st, 2006
4- Actually Eben, it was you and not I that brought the homosexuality up. What does her upbringing have to do with her actions on the View?
She came out as a lesbian because of the legality around them taking those HIV positive kids from that gay couple in Florida. Or it could be that it fit into her act..
What exactly is it that she is well versed in? Disinformation? I enjoy watching her make an ass of herself when trying to cite statistics. She is ignorant and really has nothing to offer but her sexuality…I will take an Ellen any day of the week..she seems to have so much more to talk about..Hey wasn’t she the one that paved the way for Rosie? And wasn’t she self made two?
Rosie is a classless boor.
December 21, 2006 - 06:25 PM on December 21st, 2006
What does her upbringing have to do with her actions on the View?
Yes it was I who brought it up Peejz. I did it since it’s what’s really behind all the “Rosie slamming”.
Were she some lithe Britney Spearsesque sort of handy-dandy bisexual “gayish” sort of feminine homosexual she’d be just dandy since that conforms to the hetero male stereotype of acceptable forms of “deviant” sexual expression.
Rosie pisses people off because she’s unapologetically overweight, opinionated, and self-assured. Check out the YouTube posts about her comment about Asians. The comments are pages long and at least 50% of them are to do with her being a “fat dyke”.
I enjoy watching her make an ass of herself when trying to cite statistics. She is ignorant and really has nothing to offer but her sexuality:I will take an Ellen any day of the week..she seems to have so much more to talk about..Hey wasn’t she the one that paved the way for Rosie? And wasn’t she self made two?
ah yes Ellen.
Of course. Ellen keeps still about her homosexuality. She’s “light fare”. It’s unthreatening. That, I’m sure, is a turn around from when she came out publically on her old sitcom however.
I think his ego’s out of control
And as for ‘making as ass of herself’.. well Trump’s ‘fat’ and ‘ugly’ and ‘loser’ comments are fine with you. Indeed he’s been more rancorous by far than Rosie. He can’t let go of it…
What is it about an opinionated politically incorrect (you’d think you’d like that) woman that’s so objectionable. In men Bill O’Reilly you laud it.
What exactly is it that she is well versed in? Disinformation?
Social issues. Children’s rights. Women’s rights. Human rights. Adoption rights… to name but a few.
And as for Rosie being “disinformed” I’ll disagree. She’s versed herself politically where Donald is nothing more than an egotist with too much ego for anyone to gratify. I’m glad this has come out. I knew the man was an angry misanthrope and now he’s proved it. For him to suggest someone was going to “come get her girlfriend” is a laugh. OH WAIT! Do you suppose she’d go? Of course Rosie and Kelly aren’t married are they?
I agree with you about one thing. There’s nothing very polished about Rosie. She shoots from the hip. At least you know where she stands. No b.s.
And no one ‘paved Rosie’s way’. Rosie did it all by herself.
Does Ellen also sing for K.D. Lang?
“Donald sit and spin my friend”:cool:
December 21, 2006 - 06:59 PM on December 21st, 2006
Rosie pisses people off because she’s unapologetically overweight, opinionated, and self-assured.
And turning Barbara Walters legacy into nothing more than the Springer show. Let me ask you something..was she billed as Rosie O’Donnell, the homosexual co-host of the show? This has nothing to do with sterotypes and everything to do with her boorish ignorant behavior..ala Kelly Ripa is a homophobe!?
Social issues. Children’s rights. Women’s rights. Human rights. Adoption rights: to name but a few. maybe she should stick to what she knows..
She’s versed herself politically I am crying, I had you pegged for a higher IQ than that!
And no one ‘paved Rosie’s way’. Rosie did it all by herself. Funny how she waited for her show to end in order to come out…didn’t it have to do with her contract and the sponsors? Yes I thought so, and therefore she really had no business saying anything about The Donald as she knew exactly what rights he has.
OH WAIT! Do you suppose she’d go? for the same lifestyle she has now? possible..you can only go up from Rosie..
December 21, 2006 - 07:01 PM on December 21st, 2006
What is it about an opinionated politically incorrect (you’d think you’d like that) woman that’s so objectionable. Her stupidity…
December 21, 2006 - 07:49 PM on December 21st, 2006
Rosie O’Donnell is hardly self made. A producer from Star Search called the Sean Hannity show and described how she was so “miserable” as a human being to work with that the woman had to actually have someone force her to wear jewelry to look presentable for the camera. I used to think Rosie was funny. However like many Comics (male and female) they start to think that because they can crack a bad joke about things, they are qualified political analysts. Rosie is an unabashed liberal who even refuses to back down from positions that are proven to be WRONG by facts. She is also a loud mouthed obnoxious boor. She also managed to piss off the most financially powerful man in NYC and libeled him in the process. He has more than adequate grounds for a lawsuit. Additionally with the number and size of the properties that he owns, he can have her fired in a heartbeat. He doesn’t even to call the producers of the show. All he has to do is call the sponsors and advise them that as long as she is on the show, he will withhold his patronage. Exactly how much business do you think his hotels and casinos world wide directs to the various sponsors like Proctor and Gamble on an annual basis? If Trump makes that call, Rosie is out so fast she’ll be able to hold Star Jones place in line down at the unemployment office.
I personally lost all respect for Rosie when she blindsided Tom Selleck and went off on her idiotic anti gun tirade. Especially since less than a month later she was hiring an ARMED body guard. Apparently in her liberal hypocritical mind, only her family deserves protection from the criminals of this world. Sort of like Sarah Brady getting upset because a gun store clerk had to raise his voice for the background check clerk when she bought a rifle for her son. Yep, Sarah Brady bought her son a firearm for Christmas a few years ago.
December 21, 2006 - 07:52 PM on December 21st, 2006
“Carry on Ro”?
“Go Donald”?
Jesus, no wonder I’ve lost faith in humanity.
December 21, 2006 - 08:08 PM on December 21st, 2006
Perhaps the best way to shut Rosie up is for the members of every organization that she disparages to contact the shows sponsors and complain. Let’s see that’s the 3 million+ members of the NRA and the 80+% of the population who are Christians. I think that might be a large enough buying block to insure that the show’s sponsors tell her to shut up or get out. Or more likely just get out.
Hell, I’d pay to be able to watch Donald Trump walk onto the set with two security guards and tell her “You’re fired” and have her forcibly removed from the set. Come to think of it, Trump does have enough money to buy the production company and do just that. Hmmm I wonder how I can get that suggestion to him. Of course Barbara Walters has called him to try and smooth things out because she is supposed to be the star of the show, not Rosie. Barbara is also probably the executive producer so she has the power to boot Rosie off the set anytime she wants.
December 21, 2006 - 11:49 PM on December 21st, 2006
why does anyone care what these two people say about eachother?
come on…
December 22, 2006 - 03:55 AM on December 22nd, 2006
Whatever Trump is, Rosie is a disgusting, degenerate skank. I have never watched her “show” and never would; she belongs in a dumpster somewhere imo.
December 22, 2006 - 09:15 AM on December 22nd, 2006
#7 Let me address my sentiments on each of your poinst Peejz:
And turning Barbara Walters legacy into nothing more than the Springer show. Let me ask you something..was she billed as Rosie O’Donnell, the homosexual co-host of the show? This has nothing to do with sterotypes and everything to do with her boorish ignorant behavior..ala Kelly Ripa is a homophobe!?
I think Barbara stands on her own with or without Ms. O’Donnell. Much as Dick Cheney doesn’t define George Bush. Barbara’s no fool. And don’t be silly. Of couse she wasn’t billed that way but Rosie came into the thing with that legacy of controversy behind her. To say it doesn’t hamper or skew opinion is absurd. I reacted precisely as Rosie did to the Kelly Ripa thing. Ripa came off (with her “don’t know where that hand’s been”) after the hoopla around Aiken’s homosexuality and it “hit” me the same way when she said it. It’s not imagined it’s real.
..maybe she should stick to what she knows..
Well. Here’s the thing. Everyone has an opinion. No one with a strong personality is going to be beyond critism. Trump saying Rosie “has a mouth like a truck driver” is simply a reference to her butch dyke appearance and behavior because that’s what she is a “butch dyke”. Some lesbians are. Many truck driver’s are women Donald. Have you forgotten?:roll:
I am crying, I had you pegged for a higher IQ than that! Don’t cry. I don’t mean to upset you. It’s only opinion after all. And with regard to Intelligence Quotient I think too much is made of it. Intelligence for me is an intuitive thing… you know a basic instinct often. Some random test no matter what my score does not make you “right” and me “wrong”.:wink:
you can only go up from Rosie..
Here we disagree. Different things attract people to one another. While you may prefer the Ellen version of lesbian I prefer all people (orientation and gender notwithstanding) to have a strong political stance. Like her or not Rosie has one. Many people posting here do too. And from what I see of your criteria it matters not if someone is blindly conservative as long as they’re conservative and nothing is said.
Rosie’s ignorant to many because she has the balls to say what she thinks – devil take the hindmost. Bottom line? You’d like that quality in anyone else.
Her stupidity: You keep using words like stupidity and ignorant. I pegged you with a higher IQ than that.
Do expound.
#9Rosie O’Donnell is hardly self made. A producer from Star Search called the Sean Hannity show and described how she was so “miserable”as a human being to work with that the woman had to actually have someone force her to wear jewelry to look presentable for the camera.
No. She did stand up for years long before Star Search I knew of her well before that show. And the day I begin believing anything on Sean Hannity’s show is the day I hand over my books for the village book buring.
Your jewelry reference if accurate proves my point if it’s true. Why should she wear jewelry? For whom?? Those who want to lay on her their perception of her person? Now that’s just plain silly.
#11 FOA
Hell, I’d pay to be able to watch Donald Trump walk onto the set with two security guards and tell her “You’re fired”and have her forcibly removed from the set. Come to think of it, Trump does have enough money to buy the production company and do just that. Hmmm I wonder how I can get that suggestion to him. Of course Barbara Walters has called him to try and smooth things out because she is supposed to be the star of the show, not Rosie. Barbara is also probably the executive producer so she has the power to boot Rosie off the set anytime she wants..
Another male who wants to silence an opinionated woman. Ugh.
For you to laud Trump and deride O’Donnell is odd since both are acting like errant children (bottom line). The “Stump” showed his true colors when he had the audacity to say that he should send someone to get Kelly. The arrogance.
I guess Trump’s gonna “straighten her away” and show her the error of her lesbian ways.. oh that’s unless she invites a pretty winsome “bisexual” woman to join the threesome?
This shite’s so obvious it’s painful.:roll:
December 22, 2006 - 09:44 AM on December 22nd, 2006
14-I think Barbara stands on her own with or without Ms. O’Donnell. People remember today, and today, Barbara is the ringmaster of the circus known as the view.
I reacted precisely as Rosie did to the Kelly Ripa thing. Ripa came off (with her “don’t know where that hand’s beenâ€) after the hoopla around Aiken’s homosexuality and it “hit”me the same way when she said it. It’s not imagined it’s real. It is imagined and really pathetic. Because someone doesn’t want to be touched, they are a homophobe? How can it be homophobia if Clay hasn’t even said he is gay? Oh, that’s right, Rosie says he is, so there is no need to ask him.
Trump saying Rosie “has a mouth like a truck driver”is simply a reference to her butch dyke appearance and behavior because that’s what she is a “butch dykeâ€. Some lesbians are. Many truck driver’s are women Donald. Have you forgotten? How old are you Eben? That phrase has been around for eons and sometimes, instead of saying truck driver, people use the word sailor…it is a reference to ones use of/lack of polish to the english language. It has nothing to do with homosexuality, unless you have nothing else going for you and you need to bring up your sexuality.
While you may prefer the Ellen version of lesbian I prefer all people (orientation and gender notwithstanding) to have a strong political stance. Like her or not Rosie has one. Many people posting here do too. And from what I see of your criteria it matters not if someone is blindly conservative as long as they’re conservative and nothing is said. I prefer intelligence when turning on the television..I prefer that the person that is paid to give their opinions, at least has the intelligence to seperate fact from fiction…see, we are not getting paid on this blog, we just come here and give our opinions. Rosie, otoh, is being paid to be on a television show, and day in and day out, her ignorance shines..
Rosie’s ignorant to many because she has the balls to say what she thinks – devil take the hindmost. Bottom line? You’d like that quality in anyone else. She isn’t ignorant because she says what she thinks, she is ignorant because of the content of the words she choses to use. Where is it that I have said that I like ignorance in people? Who is it that I have said I liked that compares to Rosie?
Her stupidity: You keep using words like stupidity and ignorant. I pegged you with a higher IQ than that. I have expounded on it. You need to pay attention…
I take it that you are a hetrophobe based on the criteria that you have set up..you said: Rosie is hardly ‘ignorant’. She’s well versed in many varying social topics unlike the preposterous likes of that simpering Elisabeth Hasselbeck. I find her astute and equal the the best (or worst) of them.
December 22, 2006 - 09:45 AM on December 22nd, 2006
10. I was being sarcastic.
December 22, 2006 - 11:04 AM on December 22nd, 2006
#15. Okay I’ll keep this going if you want.
It is imagined and really pathetic. Because someone doesn’t want to be touched, they are a homophobe? How can it be homophobia if Clay hasn’t even said he is gay? Oh, that’s right, Rosie says he is, so there is no need to ask him.
Neither imagined nor pathetic. Unless you’ve lived it perhaps you cannot recognize it. Kelly had her hand over Regis’s mouth in two resurfaced videos so she’s a blatant hypocrite…
Oh for the love of Christ. Clay’s gay. He doesn’t need to announce. It’s obvious. Much like Ricky Martin and Jodie Foster they choose not to discuss it as is their prerogative (or not).
How old are you Eben? That phrase has been around for eons and sometimes, instead of saying truck driver, people use the word sailor:it is a reference to ones use of/lack of polish to the english language. It has nothing to do with homosexuality, unless you have nothing else going for you and you need to bring up your sexuality.
I’m old enough Peejz. I don’t need your instruction on general American phraseology I assure you. He used it to imply she’s mannish and “bull dykey”. For that to be lost on you or anyone watching is simply selective reality. It has everything to do with her orientation. His statement about Kelly is proof-positive.
You keep slamming Rosie; “ignorant”, “stupid”, “nothing going for her”?
She had a successful morning talk show that lasted years until she chose to leave the show contrary to Trump’s ascertion. She was called the “Queen of Nice”. She’s championed the foster care system and adoption generally in this country (along for which she should be given due credence) yet you say she has nothing to offer but her sexuality.
I can tell you that as a homosexual I see her as a much-needed voice of (as Peter Finch once said) “we’re madder than hell and we’re not going to take it anymore” – see I am old enough to know that quote from Network
Rosie’s the polished professional second only to Barbara Walters in the hosting of that show and she carries it off with humor, political straight-forwardness, and makes for damned interesting viewing (note the ratings spike). But to you she has nothing to offer but her sexuality? Oh okay.
I prefer intelligence when turning on the television..I prefer that the person that is paid to give their opinions, at least has the intelligence to seperate fact from fiction:see, we are not getting paid on this blog, we just come here and give our opinions. Rosie, otoh, is being paid to be on a television show, and day in and day out, her ignorance shines..
I prefer intelligence too.
See? It’s all in who’s doing it. If you agree with the individual’s take they’re a seer. If not they’re ignorant. Beyond that Barbara Walters chose Rosie O’Donnell for a reason. Walters knew full-well what she was getting in Rosie. Remember Walters did that interview where Rosie came out on national t.v. Barbara’s shrewd. I know for a fact she’s extremely liberal. She (in her waning time on t.v.) has made a conscious decision to put the like of O’Donnell out for public consumption specifically to highlight the exposure of human rights issues in Barbara’s own forum. You don’t know “why she was hired”. Only Barbara does. And that reason maybe a great deal more profound than either of us knows.
I’ve met Walters by the way. A more graceful woman I’ve never had the pleasure to know. She’s the embodiment of decency and you can tell when she speaks to you and looks you directly in the eye that she’s a woman of singular depth and a long-range view of this world that transcends the petty.
There’s a method to what you’d call her “madness” I assure you.
She isn’t ignorant because she says what she thinks, she is ignorant because of the content of the words she choses to use. Where is it that I have said that I like ignorance in people? Who is it that I have said I liked that compares to Rosie?
You find her bombastic style offensive yet in Trump it’s fine. Again the inequity of the sexes. And I don’t recall saying you liked ‘ignorance in people’. You must be referring to when I said you found Ellen more palatable since she (now) keeps still about her sexuality entirely.
I have expounded on it. You need to pay attention:
I take it that you are a hetrophobe based on the criteria that you have set up..you said: Rosie is hardly ‘ignorant’. She’s well versed in many varying social topics unlike the preposterous likes of that simpering Elisabeth Hasselbeck. I find her astute and equal the the best (or worst) of them
Silly. Some of my best friends are heterosexuals.
Beyond that I prefer the company of lesbians to most anyone. I find them remarkably straight-forward and thinking (generally) and I find many gay men superfluous (simply my own opinion here). And as for fearing straight people? Nah.
They’re an easy call. I’ll remind you I was raised among them. Some are quite nice.
December 22, 2006 - 11:57 AM on December 22nd, 2006
Neither imagined nor pathetic. Unless you’ve lived it perhaps you cannot recognize it. Kelly had her hand over Regis’s mouth in two resurfaced videos so she’s a blatant hypocrite: hypocrite and homophobe are 2 very different things
Oh for the love of Christ. Clay’s gay. He doesn’t need to announce. Yes he does, it’s his life and his choice, not anyone elses. To suggest it is slanderous on the part of Rosie.
He used it to imply she’s mannish and “bull dykeyâ€. For that to be lost on you or anyone watching is simply selective reality. And you know this how? Because you want so badly for it to be true? Note how Walters defended both of them and not just Rosie.
She (in her waning time on t.v.) has made a conscious decision to put the like of O’Donnell out for public consumption specifically to highlight the exposure of human rights issues in Barbara’s own forum. You don’t know “why she was hiredâ€. Only Barbara does. And that reason maybe a great deal more profound than either of us knows. You state as fact that Babs hired her for certain reasons and then you say that only Babs knows why she hired her?! Which is it? Yes Barbara is shrewd, she is making money hand over fist on the show..Just like Springer does.
You find her bombastic style offensive yet in Trump it’s fine. Where did you come up with that? This is about Walters legacy turning into that of Jerry Springers. Trump is but an example.
Silly. Some of my best friends are heterosexuals And the same can’t be said of Kelly Ripa and her friendships with gay people?
December 22, 2006 - 12:54 PM on December 22nd, 2006
why does anyone care what these two people say about eachother?
come on:
Excactly.
December 22, 2006 - 05:01 PM on December 22nd, 2006
hypocrite and homophobe are 2 very different things
Yes. She is a hypocrite who suffers from homophobia.
Yes he does, it’s his life and his choice, not anyone elses. To suggest it is slanderous on the part of Rosie.
That’s the ploy all the conservatives have used to deflect the impact of Kelly’s statement. You’ve yet to address that fact the Kelly herself did it at least twice to Regis. It’s all over YouTube.
And you know this how? Because you want so badly for it to be true? Note how Walters defended both of them and not just Rosie.
Being a big mo I come with a certain sensitivity to the phenomenon. And why on earth would I ‘want it to be true’. I’d certainly rather it weren’t whereas I suspect you’d deny its existence just shy of Matthew Shepard’s case. Or was that cooked up too?
You state as fact that Babs hired her for certain reasons and then you say that only Babs knows why she hired her?! Which is it? Yes Barbara is shrewd, she is making money hand over fist on the show..Just like Springer does.
Please don’t speak for me Peejz. I state it as probability in my view – nothing more. You and I know that any comparison between a Barbara Walters and a Jerry Springer ends at the similarity in their ethnic and religious background.
Where did you come up with that? This is about Walters legacy turning into that of Jerry Springers. Trump is but an example.
I ‘come up with that’ based on your pro Trump/anti- O’Donnell stance in the thread premise. You seem to think his physical and personal maligning of R O’D is righteous where her calling him on his preposterous reinstatement of that dimwit from Kentucky is laudable. That’s ‘where I come up with it’.
Certainly both are uncouth but Donald Trump is beyond reprehensible and no friend of the underdog I can assure you. Rosie for all her gruffness and irascibility strikes me as a woman who’s heart’s in the right place.
Donald is notoriously bastardly (think Martha Stewart fiasco).
And the same can’t be said of Kelly Ripa and her friendships with gay people?
I don’t know about Kelly Ripa. I speak only to this one episode. I find her only marginally less off-putting than her predecessor in that chair. When she whined to Regis the following Monday about how badly she’d been treated by that dreadful Clay Aiken she behaved like a spoiled brat.
Beyond that I haven’t a clue with whom she keeps company.
Re #19 Ted:
why does anyone care what these two people say about eachother?
come on:
Excactly.
I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t post the thread. I’m simply continuing the taffy pull.
December 22, 2006 - 06:27 PM on December 22nd, 2006
That’s the ploy all the conservatives have used to deflect the impact of Kelly’s statement. You’ve yet to address that fact the Kelly herself did it at least twice to Regis. It’s all over YouTube. Not a ploy at all, can you point out where Clay has come out and said he was gay? Didn’t think so. I believe I called her a hypocrite..and again it is far different than a homophobe.
Being a big mo I come with a certain sensitivity to the phenomenon. And why on earth would I ‘want it to be true’. I’d certainly rather it weren’t whereas I suspect you’d deny its existence just shy of Matthew Shepard’s case. Or was that cooked up too? Maybe a little over sensitive. Now you are bringing up Matthew Shepard? He has what to do with this?
Please don’t speak for me Peejz. I state it as probability in my view – nothing more. You and I know that any comparison between a Barbara Walters and a Jerry Springer ends at the similarity in their ethnic and religious background. Well if that is the case you shouldn’t state it as fact as you did here:
She (in her waning time on t.v.) has made a conscious decision to put the like of O’Donnell out for public consumption specifically to highlight the exposure of human rights issues in Barbara’s own forum.
I ‘come up with that’ based on your pro Trumpagain where did I defend him? This wouldn’t have come up had she not started it. And as I recall, it was her that decided to pull out the moral authority card.. Where I defended Donald, was when it was asked by you in #2 about his moral compass..see, has Rosie thought before she spoke, she would have realized that Donald is Miss USA’s boss and she is under contract with him, therefore he has the right to call her on the carpet…maybe it is she that needs to sit and spin…
December 22, 2006 - 06:46 PM on December 22nd, 2006
“I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t post the thread. I’m simply continuing the taffy pull.”
Your willing participation in the “taffy pull” belies this statement. You’ve posted in 6 of the 21 threads before this one, defending O’Donnell. That alone implied you care aboyt it.
Both O’Donnell and Trump are irrelevant to the relevant world at large IMO. Neither are defensible people from a moral standpoint.
December 22, 2006 - 09:05 PM on December 22nd, 2006
Eben, you obviously failed to understand the meaning of my post, so let me explain it to you in simpler terms.
Rosie may have been doing stand up for years before Star Search, but the bottom line is there is a huge difference between playing 200 seat comedy clubs for $500 a week and being on a national network show that gets you invited to be in the big clubs that pay five figures a show. Without Star Search, Rosie would probably still be doing the $500 – 1,000 a week circuit.
Whether you like it or not, TV is a visual media. A woman with Rosie’s build who doesn’t at least put forth some vestige of femininity, will NOT be received favorably. As a multimillionaire, she can now get away with it. As a wannabe, as all contestants on Star Search are, if she had failed to garner favorable audience support, she’d have been shot down and sent back to the dinner theatre circuit rather than being brought back for multiple appearances.
I said that until Rosie started taking her opinions as being the gospel instead musings of a comedienne, I had found her funny. Her hypocrisy at blind siding Tom Selleck on her show over gun control while seeking to provide armed security for her family while trying to deny it to everyone else’s turned me against her. Explain to me why a multimillionaire living in a highly secure building in Manhatten needs armed security more than the single woman living in or near a crime ridden housing project does. Even if the woman in the housing project has to provide it herself. Does the millionaire have more right to live in relative safety simply because she can afford to have someone carry the gun and pull the trigger for her? Gun control has proven to be a disaster when it comes to preventing crime. It encourages criminals rather than deters them. Even scholarly studies that show that gun control is useless as a crime deterrent have no impact on these idiots. Why is it she insists on having the right to choose whatever the hell she wants, but denies that right to others?
My defense of Trump is this. He was trying to be a nice guy and give a young woman second chance for doing something that kids her age do everyday. A young lady who is not that much younger than his own daughter. Rosie attacked him personally when it was none of her business.
December 22, 2006 - 09:47 PM on December 22nd, 2006
#21
Peejz:
Not a ploy at all, can you point out where Clay has come out and said he was gay? Didn’t think so. I believe I called her a hypocrite..and again it is far different than a homophobe.
No and nor do I need to. It’s so obvious I could list his CD collection beginning with Judy Garland stretching all the way to your pal Barbra Streisand. You’re repeating yourself now.
Maybe a little over sensitive. Now you are bringing up Matthew Shepard? He has what to do with this?
Well ya know ya tend to get a lil sensitive when people keep denying homophobia exists…:roll:
Well if that is the case you shouldn’t state it as fact as you did here:
You didn’t recognize that as Eben’s opinion huh? I’d have “pegged you with a higher IQ”.
again where did I defend him?
Again, in the opening thread premise. It slants in favor of Trump markedly. ‘You need to pay attention’.
This wouldn’t have come up had she not started it. And as I recall, it was her that decided to pull out the moral authority card.. Where I defended Donald, was when it was asked by you in #2 about his moral compass..see, has Rosie thought before she spoke, she would have realized that Donald is Miss USA’s boss and she is under contract with him, therefore he has the right to call her on the carpet:maybe it is she that needs to sit and spin:
Rosie… much like your O’Reillys and Hannitys does give a flying phuck what she says. She’s not trying to appeal to the masses. Again- in some you’d laud it but in Rosie it’s objectionable? Don’t understand the logic if there is any.
#22 Ted:
Your willing participation in the “taffy pull”belies this statement.
Then where’s that leave Peejz in all this??:?::wink:
You’ve posted in 6 of the 21 threads before this one, defending O’Donnell. That alone implied you care aboyt it.
Oh the banter long ago left Rosie and Donnie and became a battle of wills entre Peejz and me.
Both O’Donnell and Trump are irrelevant to the relevant world at large IMO. Neither are defensible people from a moral standpoint.
Well Donald certainly isn’t. Agreed.
#23 FOA
Eben, you obviously failed to understand the meaning of my post, so let me explain it to you in simpler terms…
Nah got it straight away.
It was an attempt to disempower women while giving the power back to “the man”. I got clearly at the starting gate.
But thanks for your lenghty efforts.:roll:
December 22, 2006 - 09:52 PM on December 22nd, 2006
re #23 FOA
My defense of Trump is this. He was trying to be a nice guy and give a young woman second chance for doing something that kids her age do everyday. A young lady who is not that much younger than his own daughter. Rosie attacked him personally when it was none of her business.
Whoa there. You really believe that bullcrap?
Again as Ms. O’Donnell stated so perfectly who is Donald – the self-annointed – to deign to set the “moral compass” for twenty year olds? He’s a past whoremaster.
What are we freaking talking about here? He “gives” a weepy ingenue another “chance” because she’s winsome and calls Rosie unattractive “inside and out” because she doesn’t hang on people like Trump’s every word and you buy that horse manure.
People……………. THINK ABOUT WHO YOU’RE EMPOWERING
December 22, 2006 - 10:26 PM on December 22nd, 2006
ROSIE showing her true big mouthed person and that flunky right with her and BABA WAWA and all that:razz:
December 22, 2006 - 10:58 PM on December 22nd, 2006
re 24:
“Then where’s that leave Peejz in all this??”
Unlike yourself at least not in a state of denial as she never said she didn’t care about it, no matter how senseless I think it is to do so.
Oh the banter long ago left Rosie and Donnie and became a battle of wills entre Peejz and me.
Such a wonderful endeavor. It is as I suspected, at least for you as I can not speak for Peezj. .
A battle of wills is immaterial. More to the point, a more worth while endeavor is the pursuit of honest conversation, or even good debate. One at least enriches oneself from such pursuits, instead sullying each other with such feckless rhetoric.
Congratulations! You’ve managed to to model for everyone to see just exactly why our current political process is breaking down and our country is failing. There is no longer concern for substance, just posturing.
December 23, 2006 - 12:03 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Like I said…Rosie is a disgusting, disgraceful, useless skank. Nothing she says is worth even listening to.
That’s all folks…
December 23, 2006 - 08:01 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Interesting debate. The truth is in the bottom line though. Trump is Tara’s BOSS and chose to give her a second chance. When you are paid to do a job, you do it or you get fired. Rosie was in the wrong because it was none of her business to begin with.
I personally don’t like either one of them but Trump was being a nice guy and giving this child a second chance which is an honorable thing to do.
And Eben, no one needs a lecture on empowerment. When the head of the Natl Organization for Women came out and said she would give Billie Boy a blow job herself was when I stopped listening to lectures on empowerment by ANY group. In this country you have the opportunity to make of yourself what you make and in turn everyone in this country has a right to look foolish or not. In this case Rosie looked foolish.
December 23, 2006 - 08:17 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Ted- if you don’t want to discuss the topic, that is your choice. Eben, others, and I are discussing it.
December 23, 2006 - 08:46 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Eben, just last week you were offended when a comment was made about girlie men and the sterotypes etc., yet now for the sake of your arguement, you resort to Clay’s CD collection as proof the man is gay? We have talked about this prior to this debate..when a person is ready to disclose their sexuality, that is their choice and their right, NO ONE ELSES. The premice of the thread is just what the title says it is.. Barbara Walters View On Track To De-throne Jerry Springer. Rosie works for Walters. Rosie is a reflection of Walters body of work. I, nor anyone else in the discussion, is denying that homophobia exists in our society, we just disagree with the thought that if you don’t like Rosie, you are a homophobe, or, if you don’t allow Clay Aiken to touch your mouth, you are a homophobe..wrong..a homophobe is a person that doesn’t like a person because they are a homosexual. I am not a homophobe because I don’t like Rosie, nor am I a racist because I don’t like Jesse Jackson. IMO, both are assholes, one just happens to be gay, they other black.
December 23, 2006 - 09:32 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Well said Peejz. You know I heard a story that happened in the early 90’s of a professor who was gay. His habit was to say to his classes beginning each semester that he was gay and if anybody didn’t like it they could drop the class. I thought that was so very stupid. I mean who really cares what a teachers sexual orientation is. They just wannt to know their educational credentials.
Maybe there are people who are homophobes. I don’t doubt that. But why on earth would anyone go around wanting to say they are gay or straight? For me it’s nobody’s business.
December 23, 2006 - 10:12 AM on December 23rd, 2006
Eben, Yes I do happen to believe that. Rosie opened her fat mouth about something that was absolutely NONE OF HER BUSINESS. Trump has a daughter who is in her twenties. Trump gave the young woman a second chance for doing something that teenagers do in this country every day. Which of those FACTS are incorrect?
Rosie is FAT. Hence her mouth is Fat.
Rosie does NOT own an interest in the Miss USA pageant, hence it is NONE OF HER BUSINESS how Donald Trump runs HIS business. Nor, for that matter, is Donald’s past trangressions any of her business either.
Trump has a daughter in her twenties. A tall attractive blonde with an MBA from Wharton named Ivanka. In case anyone is interested, in Slavonic languages, Ivanka is the diminutive of Ivana, hence his daughter’s name means “little Ivana” after her mother, Donald’s first wife.
Teenagers and 20 year olds are involved in underage drinking in this country DAILY. If you don’t believe that, you either never attended a major university or were one of the geeks who spent their entire college career in the deep dark recesses of either the computer lab or the library.
I would highly suggest that before you start opening your mouth, spewing idiotic comments, that you check the facts behind what I say. Damn near everything I post is based in FACT. Up until this point I have tried to be polite in responding to you Eben, but your responses are becoming more venomous, idiotic and hypocritical with every post. Don’t respond to these questions, simply think about them to yourself.
Why do liberals who so rabidly argue against any form of social conformity, try to claim moral superiority when anyone they don’t like does something outside of the social norm?
Why will liberals condemn the person who lives their life well, and is successful, for having the occasional fall while adoring those who openly flout their refusal to follow even the most basic of social norms?
An example of this would be the recently executed Tookie Williams who had committed multiple violent murders, and founded a street gang responsible for hundreds (possibly thousands) more. Yet the liberals wanted to give him a Nobel prize? Hell, he should’ve been shot like a rabid dog 20 years ago. Now Donald Trump who has given great amounts to charity, built businesses that have created thousands of jobs, made his proteges wealthy but has an affair they want to crucify. Until Bill Gates started the Gates Foundation, the liberals were trying to put him out of business because he was successful.
It’s like saying that since a compass points to magnetic north, not true north you can’t possible use it to guide your way. Yes, it is off a little bit but it’s still better than nothing. For your information Eben and anyone else who wasn’t in Boy Scouts or didn’t take land navigation classes, the north pole is in the middle of the arctic ocean, magnetic north is located, if memory serves, in north eastern Canada. They are not the same.
Winston Churchill said “If you’re not a liberal at 20, you don’t have a heart. If you’re not a Conservative at 40, you don’t have a brain.” I have to think he was oh so right.
I’ll use a “Wizard of Oz” reference here since all of the liberals seem to have this thing for wanting to live over the rainbow. It’s better to be a tin man than a scarecrow.
December 23, 2006 - 01:24 PM on December 23rd, 2006
“Why do liberals who so rabidly argue against any form of social conformity, try to claim moral superiority when anyone they don’t like does something outside of the social norm?
Why will liberals condemn the person who lives their life well, and is successful, for having the occasional fall while adoring those who openly flout their refusal to follow even the most basic of social norms? ”
FAO, I can only answer these questions and dozens more about Liberals by coming to the same conclusion: Liberalism is a form of mental illness.
December 23, 2006 - 01:43 PM on December 23rd, 2006
31, 32: Reminds me of the term “openly gay” that is often used to describe someone by the media, like it is some sort of wonderful thing. What does it really mean? Usually those described that way are the ones who are “in your face” gay. And if you don’t like it, if you react to it in any way, then you are the problem!
I am glad Trump is taking on Rosie. It is time someone with a high profile is countering the blather of the Left. Rosie and her ilk belong in the dumpster of history. Time to start putting her there.
December 23, 2006 - 01:44 PM on December 23rd, 2006
btw that pic of Rosie in this thread is perfect, it is so self-descriptive. It characterizes her quite well.
December 23, 2006 - 02:31 PM on December 23rd, 2006
Rosie is attractive, intelligent, funny, and very entertaining. Of course that threatens you Trogolodyte males. Us liberal socialists love Rosie; every word that she speaks is music to our ears. We celebrate every deep opinion that she utters; for us, she is a Pied piper to understanding for even the most complex and controversial issues!
December 23, 2006 - 05:21 PM on December 23rd, 2006
#31 Peejz:
Eben, just last week you were offended when a comment was made about girlie men and the sterotypes etc., yet now for the sake of your arguement, you resort to Clay’s CD collection as proof the man is gay? We have talked about this prior to this debate..when a person is ready to disclose their sexuality, that is their choice and their right, NO ONE ELSES. The premice of the thread is just what the title says it is.. Barbara Walters View On Track To De-throne Jerry Springer. Rosie works for Walters. Rosie is a reflection of Walters body of work. I, nor anyone else in the discussion, is denying that homophobia exists in our society, we just disagree with the thought that if you don’t like Rosie, you are a homophobe, or, if you don’t allow Clay Aiken to touch your mouth, you are a homophobe..wrong..a homophobe is a person that doesn’t like a person because they are a homosexual. I am not a homophobe because I don’t like Rosie, nor am I a racist because I don’t like Jesse Jackson. IMO, both are assholes, one just happens to be gay, they other black.
It’s the generalization with idiots like the current governor of California using terminology like that Peejz. I shouldn’t need to explain this to you unless you simply want to belabor our disagreement on Rosie O’Donnell.
What does Jesse Jackson have to do with this?
I ‘get’ to talk about Clay CD collection and I get to use “fag”. Think of it as an inside cognizance. Simple.
I haven’t yet accused you of homophobia but I am curious if you’d be able to cite one example over the last ten years in this society when you’ve seen it occur. Could you?
I have no respect for Trump and some for Rosie.
Trump’s a miscreant who’s made tons of money and again has no right to “set the moral compass’ with his whore-mongering past. It’s ludicrous. Rosie’s at least what she purports to be. That may not be to your liking but she’s no hypocrite like Kelly Ripa or “the Donald”.
You can defend the fat cats in our society all you like. Let them be your heroes. But I’m still curious as to why strong women who’re willing to brook condemnation by voicing their strong opinions seem to threaten conservatives so readily.
Perhaps you can explain why Rosie fearlessly voicing her opinion (with which I happen to agree) and someone like Dennis Miller voicing his strong opinion is different.
To me each is entitled.
What’s at issue here is;
1) the sex of the indidual
2) if the listener happens to agree with the opinion.
…….nothing more.
December 23, 2006 - 05:25 PM on December 23rd, 2006
#33 FOA-
Rosie is FAT. Hence her mouth is Fat.
You were presenting a fairly good argument then the above-referenced piece ruined your credibility.
You have an agenda.
December 23, 2006 - 05:48 PM on December 23rd, 2006
again #33
FOA-
Rosie does NOT own an interest in the Miss USA pageant, hence it is NONE OF HER BUSINESS how Donald Trump runs HIS business. Nor, for that matter, is Donald’s past trangressions any of her business either.
I must take exception to this portion of your post. It’s irrelevant what’s anyone’s ‘business’ anymore. There is no privacy left especially when someone’s in the public eye. Trump gave up that right when, to satiate a instatiable ego, he took on a more public persona by being a quasi-television personality.
His past is public domain with the likes of his first wife make the “Oprah rounds” speaking of the transgressions of her marriage to him. Why do we (or do you suggest) he’s owed personal autonomy while Rosie cannot – after much more public attention and personal hands-on experience in philanthropic causes – is supposed to not have an opinion on him?
The “moral compass” to which she Ms. O’Donnell refers is something that’s been harped on endlessly by the conservatives among us FOA ad nauseum. Yet that moral compass is skewed even by your own definition in your last lenghty post when someone with a history personal history like Trump’s is supposed (by your gauge) to be ignored while he “instructs” who does or does not get a second chance. No way.
A real moral code is behavioral. Rosie’s is impeccable personally. Find any personal dirt on her? No. Ya may now like her but she lives her truth.
For that she’ll always get my nod of agreement where individuals who’ve bought into their own power like Trump will appear like the hypocritical they are. Morality, for me, is about personal responsibility.
Quite simply Rosie’s lived her truth. Donald’s used people often. He chews up women and spits them out all the while glowing in the afterglow of his own rather oddly perverse reflection.
With the internet and news magazines like “The Insider” and “Entertainment Tonight” feeding the public need for dirt all bets are off on opinion. Any one can voice now. You can. I can.
So can Rosie O’Donnell. She did too. And I say he’s reacting so strongly because for once in his life the bastard was called on the carpet.
Now maybe he’ll keep still or clean up his behavior.
December 23, 2006 - 05:51 PM on December 23rd, 2006
.. sorry for the grammatical errors in that last but I’ve had an extremely long work day. I WISH THIS SITE HAD A PREVIEW AREA.. but be that as it may I’ll assume FOA you’ve gotten the gist of my intent.
Eben
December 23, 2006 - 07:02 PM on December 23rd, 2006
38- Your use of CDs and show tunes is no better than girlie man. If you want the generalizations to end, don’t do it. Just because you are gay doesn’t give you the right..
Homophobia in this society? Jerry Falwell, Rev what’s his face that is protesting military funerals and has signs saying God hates fags. Those are two..you meantioned Matthew Shepard.
Rosie’s at least what she purports to be. That may not be to your liking but she’s no hypocrite like Kelly Ripa or “the Donaldâ€. Might I remind you of Tom Selleck, the NRA, and Rosies armed body guards?
Let them be your heroes. But I’m still curious as to why strong women who’re willing to brook condemnation by voicing their strong opinions seem to threaten conservatives so readily. Not sure who you think our heroes are. I am in no way threatened by Rosie, nor do I think others feel threatened by her. Most people find her to be an ignorant loud mouth. When Dennis Miller is doing his free speech rant on H&C, is he taking aim at individuals and bringing up their personal lives, or is he talking in general terms about general topics?
In the 4 months Rosie has been on The View, she has managed to turn it into the Jerry Springer Show.
December 24, 2006 - 12:16 AM on December 24th, 2006
Rosie O’donnell will never give half as much to charity as Donald Trump, nor will she raise as much. Why? Because he gives more than she is worth.
I have an agenda alright. I want people to be able to run their businesses and their lives without interference from know nothing hypocrites like Rosie O’Donnell and the other liberal Hollywood crowd. They all feel they have the right to say anything they want, no matter how idiotic, about other people without regard for the outcome. At the same time they scream bloody murder whenever any of the sacred cows of liberalism are taken in vain. I personally don’t give a rat’s rectum about who anyone is sleeping with. Rosie’s behavior is obnoxious and uncalled for. She has repeatedly said and done things that are obnoxious and heaven help anyone who calls her on it. It’s time for the decent people of this country to stand up and give her and Joy Behar their view of those two’s antics. The don’t need to even stop watching “The View”, they just need to contact the sponsors and threaten a boycott. Make “The View” a poison pill for advertisers. Yes, Eben everyone does have the right to have an opinion, however they don’t necessarily have the right to slander other people. I have yet to make an incorrect statement on this thread. Can you make the same claim?
Why is it that the liberals who claim that it’s wrong to condemn people for their actions, are the first ones to condemn anyone who disagrees with them? BTW exactly what qualifies Rosie to judge/ condemn Trump for giving the woman a second chance? Not a damn thing. This whole discussion reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw recently. It said “Guns cause crime like Spoons made ROsie O’Donnell fat.” Maybe I should send Trump one for his limo. He’d probably like that. Who knows, maybe he’ll donate some money to the NRA Eddie Eagle program that promotess gun safety among children.
December 24, 2006 - 12:45 AM on December 24th, 2006
AWWW There is no privacy anymore… We’d better stop the presses and tell the ACLU that they are now out of business, Eben has just declared the NSA intercept program legal because there is no longer privacy in this country. Better let NARAL know as well, because Eben’s most recent scholarly ruling has opened the door for all of the Anti Abortion laws that NARAL is challenging. Yep completely overturns Roe V. Wade. It also means that all of the anti Sodomy laws that the Lesbian and Gay organizations have been fighting against for decades have been legitimized. Eben you are making the usual liberal circular argument. You can’t decide which side of the issue to be on, so you’re trying to be on both.
BTW Eben when you own the company, you get to decide who gets a second chance and who doesn’t. Until then, that decision belongs to the owner/manager of the business and in this case, that IS Donald Trump.
One last thing Eben, you still haven’t addressed why liberals will tout a convicted serial killer as being a changed man worthy of a Nobel Prize while blasting Donald Trump over moral missteps that are neither uncommon (almost half of married people have affairs) nor illegal. Wouldn’t a serial killer be considered a substantially poorer moral compass than an adulterer? Or does being a serial killer on death row, with a son who is also a serial killer on death row, give Tookie Williams a vastly superior moral compass than Donald Trump?
The big difference between the liberals and conservatives when it comes to a moral compass is that Conservatives know what is right and wrong, even when they do things they know are wrong. Liberals refuse to even acknowledge that there is a right and wrong. It’s the old “if it feels good, do it” hedonistic mentality. The problem with that is, without guidelines as to what is acceptable behavior and what is not, people do things that meet their immediate hedonistic needs without regard as to what effects their action may have later. We just had two serial killers arrested here who were going out at night to “engage in some random recreational violence.” In the time that it took the police to catch them, they had shot over 30 animals and 17 people, killing over half a dozen of the people. They also just caught a serial rapist and murderer. He was out on parole multiple years early for another rape where he brutalized the woman so badly that she couldn’t recognize him and they had been dating prior to the incident. During the course of the investigation, they also picked up at least one brother and two nephews on outstanding warrants for violent crimes. Maybe they needed a better moral compass than just “if it feels good, do it.”
December 24, 2006 - 08:49 AM on December 24th, 2006
And remember, “Those that lie, die of breast cancer”~Rosie O’Donnell to her staff…
December 25, 2006 - 01:34 PM on December 25th, 2006
Eben? Pillow biter or carpet muncher? Just joking. I couldn’t resist. I don’t get to read or post much because of my work, but it is nice to see someone stirring the S*IT once in a while. We couldn’t be more… “un-alike”, but I dont see any liberals around here and the only ones who take your party’s side are trying to kill me.
Take care, and Merry Christmas everybody!
JG,,, if you remember me..
December 26, 2006 - 07:48 AM on December 26th, 2006
JG, how about targeting Al Sadr?
December 26, 2006 - 05:09 PM on December 26th, 2006
#46.
Eben? Pillow biter or carpet muncher? Just joking.
actually neither of those stereotypes…
And you JG? wife beater or change-your-underwear-once-a-weeker??:wink:
I’m not into anal sex (you know like most hetero females aren’t?). So I’ve never bitten a pillow to date – nor has my significant other.
Be that as it may;
My purpose here JG (just so you know) isn’t particularly to stir anything. I have a point of view and I’m interested to know how vehement and intransigent those opposed to me can be. I’ve seen, so far, everything from the immovable to the vaguely reasonable.
So far so good.
As I (finally) saw in this thread – it’s generally more about being agreed with than it is the reality of the public persons being hashed out. Makes us all “love being right” somehow.
Therefore I stopped reading retorts at #41 since it’s nothing but an “oh yeah your mother wears army boots” kinda thing. If someone wants the last word (no matter how wrong he or she may be) I say let them have it.
Hope everyone had a delightful Christmas. I did.
December 27, 2006 - 06:41 AM on December 27th, 2006
48, I should let you have the wrong last word, you arrogant, elitist S.O.B.
AND, that is an accurate description of YOU, Eben. You are just as intransigent and more so than you perceive of others. In fact, you project the worst of YOUR traits upon others and then create strawmen and pick fights to rail about what you hate about YOURSELF.
John Galt is serving our country. Something you ARE NOT DOING!!
December 27, 2006 - 11:42 AM on December 27th, 2006
PCD?
You’re so insecure it actually jumps though the screen.
Were you raised by Pitbulls?:roll:
December 27, 2006 - 12:36 PM on December 27th, 2006
I’m not insecure, Eban. YOU ARE! You whiny little baby doesn’t like being stood up to and told off.
You are right in that we would not get along in real life. I would forcefully drive you away from me.
December 27, 2006 - 03:51 PM on December 27th, 2006
#51-
PCD, PCD,
Chill brother. You get all worked up over nothing.
You have a one dimensional way of addressing this existence to which you’re welcome. I find myopia a terminal illness and you never offer anything substance when you respond. You simply react.
What’s got you so angry my man?
I would forcefully drive you away from me.
I don’t ride in used pickup trucks.:lol:
December 28, 2006 - 08:28 PM on December 28th, 2006
Eben, you also don’t respond to factual statements that shoot down your arguments. Have you considered going to law school? You’d fit right in with the ACLU crowd. The facts don’t matter as long as your opinion supports a weak argument, that is good enough. Sort of like the Dems attitude that guilt or innocence doesn’t matter, only the seriousness of the charge.
December 28, 2006 - 09:56 PM on December 28th, 2006
I respond to that which is worth responding and when I’m not asked to repeat myself FAO.
I “fit in” with no ‘crowd’ as you put it.
Try not to pigeonhole people it makes for an “us and them” world and in my estimation there’s far too much of that being promoted already. The facts ‘matter’ greatly to me FAO. You may easily not like my take on those fact but such is my prerogative.
You keep compartmentalizing people with terms like ‘Dems’.
How can you possible refer to the ‘facts’ and not address BonBon’s minimalizing of Nixon’s Watergate? I assumed you were old enough to have lived that nightmare. You take me to task simply because my view of things threatens a prescribed reality for you.
I have no control how you view me. In fact it’s of no concern to my reality whatsoever. I’d ask that you remain nonjudgmental with me though as I will with you. I’ve not attacked you personally or put you in a neat little box’ to make your view of things “work” for me. I’ve already begun to ignore one poster here (PCD) because he’s simply a frightened reactionary.
Please make an attempt not talk “at” me but rather “to” me.
It’ll make for better dialogue between us and I’ll be inclined to read you with more detachment and seriousness.
Thanks.
January 3, 2007 - 12:23 PM on January 3rd, 2007
Well, it’s not on YouTube yet but I watched The View this morning and Barbara’s set the records straight.
She’s 100% behind Rosie, applauds her as an addition to the show, but most importantly Miss Walters calls Trump out about saying he “knew for a fact that Barbara can’t stand Rosie”.
‘Nothing could be further from the truth’ said Barbara as she stared intently at the camera.
This’ll be all over the tabloid t.v. news shows tonight.
January 3, 2007 - 02:01 PM on January 3rd, 2007
Eben, I don’t own a pickup truck, but I will never be surprised to hear you have been dragged behind one.
Oh, the way you interact here speaks volumes why you fit in with no crowd, as no one would have you around for long, just like shitto.
January 3, 2007 - 02:13 PM on January 3rd, 2007
55- So I guess she really is trying to de-throne Springer:roll: She is a laughing stock!
January 3, 2007 - 06:12 PM on January 3rd, 2007
Well imo Baba Wawa “coming out” in support of Rosie shows what she is about. I used to have some respect for Baba—no mas.