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By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:08:57 +0000

Inside the muddled, addled brains of Liberals, there is no distinction between the life of an innocent person or a condemned criminal. In much the same way as they are unable to see things in black and white, right and wrong terms. For them everything is situational, relativistic. For example, murder of a baby as it is being born is okay, since their agenda is “reproductive rights” and anything that diminishes that cannot be allowed to mattter.

But carrying out justice, according to the will of the voters (2-1 both times it was voted on in kalifornia) and rendering a murderer incapable of further victimization of others is murder and is wrong, according to them. That is because their agenda is to destroy traditional society by turning everything upside down, even the most obvious truths. In such a social environment where there are no absolutes, no truths, no anchors, it is fertile ground to promote whatever perversions and degradations they want to.

A society well established and grounded in fundamental, traditional mores can resist the opportunistic infection of socialism. A society that is drifting, disoriented, ungrounded is susceptible.

That’s the game plan.

By: BonBon

BonBon — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:54:59 +0000

18. San Fran..I can explain the difference although I’m not sure you will completely understand it but here goes anyway.

The conservative right values life. On the issue of the death penalty we value the innocent victims life more than the person that murdered them.

On the issue of abortion we value the life of the baby. Once a woman is pregnant they have a child inside of them. That childs life is valued. Now I personally am a moderate in that I understand that in certain circumstances abortion is the right choice but I also value the life growing and I think we as a society should not be hell bent on the issue of ‘a womans right to choose’ so much as thinking through the circumstance and coming up with the appropriate option taking into consideration the life inside of the womb.

By: snowy egret

snowy egret — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:15:32 +0000

Hey San Fan Lib were you with the rest of the bleedinghearts protesting against the exicition of ROBERT ALTON HARRIS who murdered two hapless teens in cold blood ate the burgers they had ordered from a McDonalds and used their car in a bank robbery. Its too bad we didnt do the same to CHARLES MANSON but we had JERRY(MOONBEAM)BROWN and the infamous ROSE BIRD they should have hanged MANSON

By: San Francisco Liberal

San Francisco Liberal — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:13:29 +0000

“I see you don’t give a rat’s ass about the victims.”

Please. There is absolutely no connection whatsoever between wanting an end to state sanctioned revenge/murder and “not giving a rats ass about the victim” or their families. Try again.

“It’s always been a source of confoundment to me that many among the self-proclaimed conservative right are agaist a woman’s right to choose but “all for”the implementation of the death penalty.”

We’re certainly ALL hypocrites from time to time, but some more than others…(!)

By: Eben

Eben — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:31:47 +0000

re #15
SFL;

The death penalty will be gone within the next decade, especially with the once formidable conservative movement now on its knees.

It’s always been a source of confoundment to me that many among the self-proclaimed conservative right are agaist a woman’s right to choose but “all for” the implementation of the death penalty.

Isn’t life life?

By: BonBon

BonBon — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:26:03 +0000

ah San Fran….I see you don’t give a rat’s ass about the victims. Typical liberal philosophy. I pity you.

By: TedintheShed

TedintheShed — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:32:31 +0000

“The death penalty will be gone within the next decade, especially with the once formidable conservative movement now on its knees.”

I’ll take that bet.

By: San Francisco Liberal

San Francisco Liberal — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:36:20 +0000

The death penalty will be gone within the next decade, especially with the once formidable conservative movement now on its knees.

By: FrmrArtyOffcr

FrmrArtyOffcr — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:46:40 +0000

Actually public executions are quite common in many Islamic countries. I think it may be seen as a warning to others as to what their fate may be. Perhaps if we brought back public hangings and showed how the stone cold killers whimper like babies facing their own deaths and then urinate and defecate on themselves, it would make committing capital crimes seem less desirable than the 20+ years on death row that most convicted murderers currently get before they’re executed if they don’t die of natural causes first.

In the 80s, a Delaware state legislator proposed bringing back the public whipping post (Delaware still had public lashings on the books into the 1960s) for drug dealers. Of course it was shot down, but a telling point about the effect it would’ve had was when a convicted drug dealer said that he’d rather spend years in prison than be publically humiliated by being strapped to a post and publically lashed. Wouldn’t it have been much more cost effective to administer a few lashes across a drug dealer’s back and thereby deter further drug dealing as well as discourage others from dealing in them, than to send the dealer to prison and enhance his “Street Cred”?

By: TedintheShed

TedintheShed — Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:15:57 +0000

“9- Ted, it is a custom and part of Iraqi law dating back longer than Saddam has been alive..that is just the way they do it. Saddam didn’t make the law.”

Public execution was also a long held tradition in the United States at one point, and we had one.

It was reinstated August 2004 by Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. I found a Common dreams article that alluded to them not being public, as they were held in Abu Gharib.

According to AI:

SHARP RISE IN EXECUTIONS IN IRAQ

Executions carried out by the Iraqi authorities increased sharply in the month of September. A few days following the hand-over of the notorious Abu Ghraib prison from US military control to the Iraqi authorities, the Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced that 27 people were hanged in Baghdad on 6 September. The 27 individuals reportedly came from a number of Iraq’s 18 provinces and included one woman. Only two of those executed were convicted of terrorism, the other 25 were convicted of murder and kidnap, according to an Iraqi Justice Ministry official quoted in the London Daily Telegraph.

On 21 September 11 people were hanged in the city of Arbil, in the Kurdish-controlled area of northern Iraq. These were reportedly the first executions to be carried out in the Kurdish region since 1992. The 11 men, said to be members of the armed group Ansar al-Islam, had been sentenced to death in March after being convicted of killings and kidnappings in the Kurdish region during 2003 and 2004.

Since the re-imposition of the death penalty in Iraq in August 2004, scores of people have been sentenced to death and reports suggest that there are more than 200 people in prison awaiting execution. Exact figures on convictions and executions are not readily available and are not always made public, but it is estimated that approximately 50 individuals have been executed since the reimposition of the death penalty in 2004. The first executions were carried out on 1 September 2005 when three people were executed, and 13 others were executed on 9 March 2006, all for “terrorist activities”.

Since it seems this was disclosed in a press release, I would assume that they aren’t public but admitedly there is nothing to firmly substantiate that.