White House: ‘Won’t Condemn Saddam Taunts’…
Good, because I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that you had a room full of emotionally spent witnesses to the execution of a brutal dictator, and some could not control their emotions. Get over it! Could our press go out of it’s way to any greater degree in order to make a story out of a non-story?Â
The Bush administration sent conflicting signals Wednesday about the taunting and baiting that accompanied Saddam Hussein’s execution, with the White House declining to join criticism of the procedure and the State Department and U.S. military raising questions about it.
What is so conflicting about it? It wasn’t our operation, therefore what is the Whitehouse to criticize?   I would like to see the AP spend a little more time explaining the Jamil Hussein fiasco they have on their hands. If that proves to be too much for them, how about they start covering the Conyers flap…that does send conflicting messages. It doesn’t look like either of us will get our wish!
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January 3, 2007 - 04:19 PM on January 3rd, 2007
Rock on! Blood, Guns, Guts and Glory!!! They should have pulled out his fingernails first!! Bush/Cheney #1!! Go USA!
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January 3, 2007 - 04:58 PM on January 3rd, 2007
The Iraqi’s executed him. Done deal. Move on.
What gets me is that when the msm and the human rights watch groups, etc. start villifying his execution in one way or another it elevates him to a status he does not deserve. I heard one newsman call him and “icon”. Can you even believe that? The man was a MASS MURDERER for gosh sake. He brutally murdered almost a million people.
January 3, 2007 - 05:09 PM on January 3rd, 2007
I heard some Amnesty International rep interviewed, Hannity asked him whether AI would have been opposed to the execution of Hitler or Stalin. He wouldn’t answer the question directly, only stating that AI is opposed to capital punishment. Even when pressed, he would not answer yes or no.
That is so typical. These lofty positions sound so magnanimous until you bring them down from the clouds onto the ground, to reality. Then suddenly they appear to be what they are; ridiculous in the crucible of reality.
That’s the problem with Liberalism in general. It often sounds so benevolent, so wonderful. But when you bring into the arena of reality, it often breaks down.
January 4, 2007 - 06:57 AM on January 4th, 2007
Never should have been filmed nor should that execution been made public for all the macabre blood thirsty retributionists.
Now the Iraqis (even many who did not like Hussein beforehand) are making a martyr of him.
Again;
Waging war in the name of peace is like screwing to maintain virginity.:roll:
January 4, 2007 - 07:01 AM on January 4th, 2007
#2? BonBon?
The Iraqi’s executed him. Done deal. Move on. The Iraqis executed him after we handed him over to them on a silver platter to a government we’d insisted they create. Hardly lacks US involvement wouldn’t you say?
What gets me is that when the msm and the human rights watch groups, etc. start villifying his execution in one way or another it elevates him to a status he does not deserve.
That’s not was elevated him to martyr status.
It’s the way in which the US manouvered it into coming to pass. Between that and the jeering it was poorly handled. But everyone loves a good floor show when it’s blood and guts huh?
Make no mistake the execution of Saddam Hussein was a production of George W. Bush and company. None other.
January 4, 2007 - 07:22 AM on January 4th, 2007
No, Eben, it is PC idiots who know better but really don’t who screw things up.
This war shold have been fought no holds barred. When Saddam was found, he should have had the company of an activated hand grenade added to his spider hole’s accomodations.
Treasonous dogs like Kennedy and Rockefeller should have been tried for treason, and sheehan should have been put in to a mental asylum.
Al Sadr’s brigades ought to have been slaughtered with their leader long ago.
Any questions?
January 4, 2007 - 07:35 AM on January 4th, 2007
4&5- yes it should have been filmed for a couple of reasons. The first being the historical perspective and secondly, there are many Iraqis that never would have believed he was dead. Hitler committed suicide, but we really have no proof other than the word of the historians.
Why would the US not hand him over? We kept him in protective custody for them. He was tried by their courts and sentenced to die by their rule of law. GWB had nothing to do with it. If it makes you feel better to blame GWB, then go right ahead, but it is rather silly.
As for the jeering…is it any different than the emotional outbursts that we witness in our courts? Please..those people had years of pent up emotion just waiting to come out! I harly think that jeering him upon his death is cause for an international incident!:roll:
January 4, 2007 - 08:37 AM on January 4th, 2007
Eben. I saw a National Geographic program last night on Saddam and his atrocities. Want to hear about them? Did you see the program? Oh they were bloody alright. And merciless. Children, small children gassed among other horrors. It was heartbreaking. Saddam received death in a nicer way than I would have given him. The victims have my heartfelt sympathies even if they don’t have yours.
As for Iraqi’s making him a martyre….I think not. What’s given him that status is the left wing nutcases who would have rather he stay in power.
January 4, 2007 - 08:54 AM on January 4th, 2007
People have made Hitler and Mussolini martyr’s, but it really doesn’t mean a whole lot. BonBon is correct in that Saddam’s execution was humane and dignified. I guess it would have been better had a guard slipped him a cyanide pill?
January 4, 2007 - 09:06 AM on January 4th, 2007
This weekend the SciFi Network ran an Original Twilight Zone marathon. One of the episodes was one Eben should pay attention to. I didn’t catch the title, but it was about a new-Nazi trying to create a following in the US. He was going nowhere until a mysterious advisor appeared to the leader. The advisor was Hitler himself.
My point being that if Eben wishes blythely invoke Chamberlain, Stalin, and others in his thinking, that he better not be surprised when he ends up channeling the worst of them and getting the just deserts for it. In the Twilight Zone episode, the leader was shot to death while Hitler walked away from him.
January 4, 2007 - 09:31 AM on January 4th, 2007
#8
Eben. I saw a National Geographic program last night on Saddam and his atrocities. Want to hear about them? Did you see the program?
No thanks BonBon. I’ve seen the show.
I’ve also seen similar shows profiling despots all over the continent of Africa killing many more people more heartlessly than Saddam Hussein. Odd, don’t you think BonBon, that Mr. Bush hasn’t addressed these tyrants and murderers as well….
Oh wait. I know. No old score to settle for his dad and no crude oil
That’s right too ..
Don’t forget BonBon the streets of Baghdad are loaded with people who think President Bush is a butcher for killing their civlian loved ones.
PERSPECTIVE MY LOVE - PERSPECTIVE.
#9
Who’s made Hitler or Mussolini martyrs other than the likes of that scary dude Mel Gibson’s dad Hutton Gibson?
January 4, 2007 - 09:33 AM on January 4th, 2007
#6
No, Eben, it is PC idiots who know better but really don’t who screw things up. Any questions?
Yes. Only one.
When were you diagnosed with a severe case of arrested development?
January 4, 2007 - 09:55 AM on January 4th, 2007
11-Who’s made Hitler or Mussolini martyrs other than the likes of that scary dude Mel Gibson’s dad Hutton Gibson? Their followers. Followers of Saddam have made him a martyr. Who is it that Bush has not addressed in the African Nations? A better question is what is the beloved UN doing about them?
How does one determine the degree to which a murdering tyrant is more heartless than the next?
January 4, 2007 - 10:05 AM on January 4th, 2007
I think you hit the nail on the head with this one Peezj. Everyone blames the U.S. for the worlds problems while the U.N. sits quietly back and ignores these same problems they are supposed to be handling. I haven’t seen one post here by a liberal who blames the U.N. Eben? Any comment on that?
In response to Eben comment, I believe Bush is addressing those problems in spite of the constant villifying from the lefties of his actions. He, along with many others, have gone out of their way to address things in as diplomatic a way as possible.
January 4, 2007 - 10:08 AM on January 4th, 2007
14- I am going to give credit where credit is due on this one..George Clooney was discussing this with Leno the other night and said that GWB is acting on the situations in Africa, but it is going to take more than the USA! The UN needs to step up and do something…I would like to see them cease the raping of the people that they are to be protecting!
January 4, 2007 - 11:44 AM on January 4th, 2007
#13 Peejz-
Who is it that Bush has not addressed in the African Nations?
Here’s a start.
Their followers ran for the hills once Mussolini and Hitler were out of power. Can anyone say “Argentina”?:shock:
Their followers. Followers of Saddam have made him a martyr.
No. It’s apparently [acc. to most recent reports] elevated him to martyr status for the first time (can’t be one until you’re dead case you don’t know) WATCH
How does one determine the degree to which a murdering tyrant is more heartless than the next?
Body count. Bush wins.
January 4, 2007 - 11:47 AM on January 4th, 2007
#14 In response to Eben comment, I believe Bush is addressing those problems in spite of the constant villifying from the lefties of his actions. He, along with many others, have gone out of their way to address things in as diplomatic a way as possible.
How you can use “Bush” and ‘diplomatic’ in the same sentence is beyond me but .. Bush needs no vilification from anyone.
He’s a villian purely by his own actions and by those of the individuals with whom he surrounds himself for advise. Seen his approval rating BonBon?
Them thar t’ain’t all “lefties”.
January 4, 2007 - 12:06 PM on January 4th, 2007
So now Bush, according to Eben, is a murdering tyrant. That is a peek into the twisted mind of Eben.
January 4, 2007 - 12:08 PM on January 4th, 2007
Seen his approval rating BonBon? Them thar t’ain’t all “leftiesâ€. Well actually, you have no way of knowing that. From the breakdown of the polls over the past year, there seems to be push polling..and, let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that 900 people speak for this country…
January 4, 2007 - 12:10 PM on January 4th, 2007
16- your link did not come through. Body count. Bush wins. Now you are just being ignorant.
January 4, 2007 - 12:33 PM on January 4th, 2007
let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that 900 people speak for this country:
900 is an excellent sample size, and in fact can be relied upon to survey the national opinion!
Now, they were standing in line in one place, but that was just done to make it quicker and easier to get get the poll completed. And it is true that the line was for free sandwiches and beverages. But there’s absolutely no issue there; all Americans have to eat. And while the free food was being provided by the Democrat party, that is a simple coincidence. Rather you should applaud the DNC for their charity! Likewise, the Democrat voter registration table, set up right next to there the sandwiches are handed out, is of no consequence. Are you implying that the DNC doesn’t have the right to sign up voters? Are you a reactionary neocon who wants to deny free speech to those who do not agree with you? Yes, that’s it!
January 4, 2007 - 01:59 PM on January 4th, 2007
Eben your response to me says it all. Yes, if you must believe Bush is a villian, then fine. I feel very sad for you.
But while we’re on the subject please answer why on earth Mr. Clinton allowed over a million people in Rwanda to be slaughtered in just 3 months. Also do explain why we had so many terrorists attacks on U.S. interests in the 8 years of his presidency and why he didn’t see fit to take custody of OBL when he had the chance. Twice.
I’ll be looking forward to your explanations.
January 4, 2007 - 02:17 PM on January 4th, 2007
I can answer those:
1. Clinton didn’t allow anything. It wasn’t his call. And anyway he was harshly criticized for his leadership in the war in Kosovo (remember the right called it “wag the dog”) that he probably didn’t have the “political capital” to do another military rescue.
2. There weren’t an unusual number of terrorist attacked during the Clinton presidency! WTC attack I was the only one other than the Oklahoma City bombing, which was done by a right-wing hater. The USS Cole incident was an accident; as he stood up and salute Ayoob accidentally dropped a lit cigarette that fell into the hold of the boat he was on and ignited explosive vapors, causing the explosion. Of course the right-wing controlled MSM reported it as a terrorist attack. But at DU we know the truth!
3. OBL: There was no legal authority and no reason! OBL wasn’t even a firm suspect! You can’t just go around arresting people, especially foreigners, on foreign soil! There is a process: First charges are brought, then OBL is served with a subpoena. If he fails to appear within 30 days they issue a warrant. Next time he is seen at MacDonald’s in Washington D.C. we nab him! Simple as that! That’s how it works in the real world of bureaucracy and big gov’t! Don’t you get it? Guess not…
Well I’ve covered it, but perhaps Eben may still want to respond. No need really, but whatever.
January 4, 2007 - 03:28 PM on January 4th, 2007
23. :lol::lol: