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Alert:Hanoi Jane To Protest This Weekend

By: Pam On: Jan/24/07 -

Michelle is reporting:

Hanoi Jane is scheduled to appear at an anti-war protest at the Navy Memorial this weekend. From the United for Peace website:

10am: Women Say Pull Out! Women’s Convergence for DC Mobilization Join Jane Fonda, Susan Sarandon, Congresswomen Maxine Waters and Lynn Woolsey, Rhea Perlman, Eve Ensler, Mimi Kennedy, Q’orianka Kilcher, the Co-founders of CODEPINK and many other amazing women. Other co-sponsors include: National Organization for Women, V-Day, WAND, Feminist Majority, Feminist Peace Network and WATER. Don’t forget your PINK!Where: Navy Memorial, 7th and Pennsylvania NW
When: Saturday, January 27, 2007 at 10am
We will rally at 10am then meet up with the UFPJ rally and march!

 

FReepers will be there to counter-protest. Should be interesting.

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Posted on: January 24, 2007 |

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14 Responses to “Alert:Hanoi Jane To Protest This Weekend”

  1. Eben
    January 24, 2007 - 07:14 PM on January 24th, 2007

    Did you all do a fandango when Betty Friedan died recently? :roll:

    Jane Fonda is one of the most intelligent minds of the times. She’s lived her reality unlike most of you posting here. Her autobiogrphay “My Life, So Far” is wonderful.

    She owns the passion and mistakes (though they’re weren’t many imo) of her youth and explains her conviction to world peace. Like Vanessa Redgrave the woman has the courage of her convictions. It’s called BEING AMERICAN.

    Here is you care to read the truth:

  2. TedintheShed
    January 24, 2007 - 07:29 PM on January 24th, 2007

    “Jane Fonda is one of the most intelligent minds of the times.”

    :lol:

    She may be somewhat intelligent, but she was also treasonous.

    Well, this was a good quote fropm a vet on your link Eben:

    “As a Vietnam vet (’68-’69), I think “Hanoi Jane” should have been field stripped, tried for treason, convicted, dragged through the streets screaming her North Vietnamese slogans, and buried in the federal prison system for the rest of her sorry-assed life!!!!!”

    :lol:

  3. TedintheShed
    January 24, 2007 - 07:33 PM on January 24th, 2007

    “It’s called BEING AMERICAN.”

    I would like to address this.

    There is a stark difference between disagreeing with the governement, protesting and/or standing up for your rights and crossing the line and comitting treason.

    I don’t care who you are, comitting treason is not “BEING AN AMERICAN”. This is what Fonda did. She is shameful to the mantle of citizenship of this country, and I take great disgust in catagorizing her as such.

  4. Peejz
    January 24, 2007 - 07:53 PM on January 24th, 2007

    Link
    It’s not a sin to protest wars. Not everyone shares the same sense of morality, and political dialogue without the ability to dissent is not dialogue at all. There is no shame in John Kerry testifying on Capital Hill against the Vietnam War. There’s a hell of lot of shame in buying into the ‘Winter Soldier’ garbage and testifying that we routinely engaged in war crimes with approval at the highest level. Atrocities were committed in Vietnam, yes; people were prosecuted, and court-martialed, and some got away with murder, literally. The vast majority of soldiers, though, did their level best and counted the days until they could be home with friends and family.

    Consider, then, the case of Jane Fonda, long known as ‘Hanoi Jane’ for her Vietnam era antics. There is no more reason to begrudge Fonda’s opposition to the war than there is Kerry’s. Breaking bread with the enemy, however, goes a long way past legitimate opposition. Fonda didn’t just oppose the war, she engaged in propaganda against America. Right-wing fantasy? Hardly…here’s an extended excerpt from Snopes.com:

    …in July 1972…actress Jane Fonda arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country conducted by uniformed military hosts. Aside from visiting villages, hospitals, schools, and factories, Fonda also posed for pictures in which she was shown applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners, was photographed peering into the sights of an NVA anti-aircraft artillery launcher, and made ten propagandistic Tokyo Rose-like radio broadcasts in which she denounced American political and military leaders as “war criminals.” She also spoke with eight American POWs at a carefully arranged “press conference,” POWS who had been tortured by their North Vietnamese captors to force them to meet with Fonda, deny they had been tortured, and decry the American war effort. Fonda apparently didn’t notice (or care) that the POWs were delivering their lines under duress or find it unusual that she was not allowed to visit the prisoner-of-war camp (commonly known as the “Hanoi Hilton”) itself. She merely went home and told the world that “[the POWs] assured me they were in good health. When I asked them if they were brainwashed, they all laughed. Without exception, they expressed shame at what they had done.” She did, however, charge that North Vietnamese POWs were systematically tortured in American prison-of-war camps.

    To add insult to injury, when American POWs finally began to return home (some of them having been held captive for up to nine years) and describe the tortures they had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Jane Fonda quickly told the country that they should “not hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars.” Fonda said the idea that the POWs she had met in Vietnam had been tortured was “laughable,” claiming: “These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed.” The POWs who said they had been tortured were “exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest,” she asserted. She told audiences that “Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They’re military careerists and professional killers” who are “trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law.”

    That’s not opposition, it’s treason…

    Now Fonda is in the news again. She’s got a book to sell, so she’s trotting out an ‘apology’ that isn’t even an apology. As Michelle Malkin notes in this excellent editorial, writing and saying that you engaged in a ‘betrayal’ and suffered a ‘lapse in judgment’ is not an apology, it’s a confession. Despite her pledge to ’set the record straight’ in her new book, Bryan Curtis writes in Slate:

    Fonda has little new to say about Vietnam and offers few words of contrition�and these only for posing in front of an anti-aircraft gun, which she says she wandered in front of by mistake.

    Finally, there’s this, from MSNBC:

    Fonda, whose memoir �Jane Fonda: My Life So Far� comes out next week, said she did not regret meeting with American POWs in North Vietnam or making broadcasts on Radio Hanoi. �Our government was lying to us and men were dying because of it, and I felt I had to do anything that I could to expose the lies and help end the war,� she said.

    Let’s sum up, then, lest I be accused of thrashing at a straw man: Fonda admits that her trip was a betrayal, but she doesn’t regret it, nor the broadcasts, nor the use of American POWs who were being tortured as objects to make her political point with. She does regret getting too close to an anti-aircraft gun, though…that’s a relief.

    Is what Fonda did unforgivable? That’s not up to you and me…I’ll leave that to the POWs and the Almighty. Fonda’s not asking our forgiveness, though…she’s justifying betrayal because her country, she feels, was betraying its citizens. In other words, two wrongs making a right…pathetic.

    It’s entirely possible to come to the conclusion that Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon are war criminals (I’m not saying I agree with that, I’m saying it’s possible to come to that conclusion); Christopher Hitchens has certainly crossed that river - but Hitchens would never conflate his opposition to his nation’s policies with a tacit endorsement of tyranny. I suggest a protest of our own against Fonda, in the most reliable way I know of; just don’t buy her book…

    Let’s sum up, then, lest I be accused of thrashing at a straw man: Fonda admits that her trip was a betrayal, but she doesn’t regret it, nor the broadcasts, nor the use of American POWs who were being tortured as objects to make her political point with. She does regret getting too close to an anti-aircraft gun, though…that’s a relief.Is what Fonda did unforgivable? That’s not up to you and me…I’ll leave that to the POWs and the Almighty. Fonda’s not asking our forgiveness, though…she’s justifying betrayal because her country, she feels, was betraying its citizens. In other words, two wrongs making a right…pathetic.It’s entirely possible to come to the conclusion that Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon are war criminals (I’m not saying I agree with that, I’m saying it’s possible to come to that conclusion); - but Hitchens would never conflate his opposition to his nation’s policies with a tacit endorsement of tyranny. I suggest a protest of our own against Fonda, in the most reliable way I know of; just don’t buy her book…

  5. TedintheShed
    January 24, 2007 - 08:25 PM on January 24th, 2007

    Geat summery Peejz. Something jumped out at me though:

    “Is what Fonda did unforgivable? That’s not up to you and me:I’ll leave that to the POWs and the Almighty.”

    Before the 2004 Presidental vote, I talked with some of those POW’s about Kerry. That is how I formed my opinion that John Kerry is a traitor.

  6. Peejz
    January 24, 2007 - 08:33 PM on January 24th, 2007

    If we are to follow our religous teaching..there is but one Almighty and he shall decide. Those she spit on can chose to forgive her or not, but it is a sin for us to judge her…by the way…I started my Jane Fonda sinning long before 04′ :razz::razz::lol:

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    January 24, 2007 - 09:31 PM on January 24th, 2007

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  8. TedintheShed
    January 24, 2007 - 09:35 PM on January 24th, 2007

    6.

    Well, I’m not juding if she’s going to hell or not. I’m just saying from the POW’s I interviewed she falls under thre criteria of a traitor.

    Something I doubt God is worried about.

  9. Woman Honor Thyself
    January 24, 2007 - 10:29 PM on January 24th, 2007

    To Fly or NoT to Fly

    Well, remember back in the day when we were told that crossing a road, driving in your car, climbing your staircase, or taking a shower in your own home was actually more risky than flying on a plane?

  10. snowy egret
    January 24, 2007 - 10:31 PM on January 24th, 2007

    Look HANOI JANE is giving the communist clinched fist salute just typical of a member of the hollywood left and i will never ever watchanother hanoi jane movie again:mad:

  11. Adam's Blog
    January 24, 2007 - 11:28 PM on January 24th, 2007

    Wednesday Night Talk

    Tonight we talked about numerous issues including John Kerry’s dropping out of the Presidential race, the Fairness docrine, and more. Click here to listen.

  12. Gensor
    January 25, 2007 - 03:37 AM on January 25th, 2007

    Gee, why does the left always bring up Vietnam…:roll:

  13. Greg Laden
    January 31, 2007 - 10:40 AM on January 31st, 2007

    I respect a range of opinions, but I think this needs to be considered in a broader context. I remember those days vividly. (Well, some of it is a little foggy…)

    From: “Forms of protest included things like what my father, a civil servant with a moderately high profile, did. He let his sideburns grow long. Other protests included peaceful marches and candlelight vigils. That was nice. The occasional one day student strike put an edge on it for the campuses. But the protests also included near riots, full scale riots, occupation of college or government buildings, burning the occasional police car, and Jane Fonda visiting Hanoi.”

  14. Peejz
    January 31, 2007 - 10:57 AM on January 31st, 2007

    Greg interesting post, but might I remind you that one doesn’t need to break the law, as Kerry and Fonda did during Vietnam protests and the protesters from this past weekend did, in order to get their message out. I think that the politicians knew trouble was brewing, hence you had none at the protest and the protesters that were there looked to be from Forrest Gump. Nothing says over the hill like a person trying to recapture the past.

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