How Gore supposedly pays for his extra-large carbon footprint
H/T to Ian for the link to Dan Riehl :
Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can’t afford to play on Gore’s terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.
As Bill Hobbs first pointed out, Gore supposedly pays for his extra-large carbon footprint through Generation Investment Management (GIM) - and if you’re looking to go green, and have your wallet go along with Gore, think again - average people are too insignificant to play - verifiable from this pdf.
And what exactly is GIM?
Generation is based in London, with its U.S. offices in Washington, DC. The firm will manage the assets of institutional investors such as pension funds, foundations and endowments, as well as those of select high net worth individuals. Generation expects to make extensive use of long-term performance based fees. Generation will begin its investment management business in early 2005.
 Here’s an interview that you should take a look at.
March 2, 2007 - 10:56 PM on March 2nd, 2007
Liberal demacratic snobs like AL GORE think their above the law what they are is a bunch of idiots and spoiled brats:razz:
March 2, 2007 - 11:37 PM on March 2nd, 2007
BINGO! One of the smoking guns. There are multiple reasons why Al Gore is pushing his fanatical Global Warming fraud, and here is one of them: MONEY! Gore has put together a perfect scheme to (further) enrich himself and his cronies at the expense of our Country, our economy, and every one of our pocketbooks.
Al Gore, you goddamned fraud! To HELL with you! And to all of you stupid idiot lemmings who have bought into this human-caused Global Warming fraud, YOU ARE A PATHETIC BUNCH OF MORONS!
March 3, 2007 - 12:33 AM on March 3rd, 2007
I believe Gore is also an exective of GIM (Chariman, perhaps?). GIM, being a for profit organization, most assurdedly pays Gore as an executive officer.
So, the perfect scheme- he pays himself the carbon offsets.
March 3, 2007 - 12:34 AM on March 3rd, 2007
This is precious too:
“Our Chairman, former Vice President Al Gore, has assembled Generation’s Advisory Board which consists of global leaders and thinkers from capital markets, industry, sustainability, economics, and geopolitical fields. The Advisory Board plays an important part in establishing our long term thematic research agenda into global sustainability issues, such as poverty, climate change, ecosystem services, biodiversity, pandemics, demographics, migration, public policy and responsible lobbying.”
March 3, 2007 - 07:12 AM on March 3rd, 2007
Ted, you aren’t supposed to tell:wink:
March 3, 2007 - 11:32 PM on March 3rd, 2007
Maybe AL GORE want to become americas first KING or what ever it sould like he want to force his global warming poppycock bull kaka sown our throats its time for this fanatic to be sent to the ASSILUM FOR THE ENVIROMENTALY INSANE and be given ELECTRO SHOCK THEROPY:eek:
March 3, 2007 - 11:44 PM on March 3rd, 2007
Who does the Right have, in the form of an ex-political leader, that consistantly promotes a cause or an idea that he/she thinks is important and urgent for humanity?
I’m sure there’s got to be one or two…but I’ll bet none as popular as Al Gore.
Say what you will about the man, but he has a message - and it’s getting serious airtime.
Your team should find someone big and famous to promote whatever it is wackos righties like to fight for, to try and counter the former Vice President.
March 4, 2007 - 01:07 AM on March 4th, 2007
“Who does the Right have, in the form of an ex-political leader, that consistantly promotes a cause or an idea that he/she thinks is important and urgent for humanity?”
Gore doesn’t. SFL.
That’s the point.
March 4, 2007 - 12:59 PM on March 4th, 2007
What…no response from AKD or SFL on this?
Whistle past the grave yard, boys.
Just whistle past the graveyard.
March 4, 2007 - 01:17 PM on March 4th, 2007
Gore doesn’t what, Ted?
Are you saying that Gore doesn’t consistantly promote a message he feels is urgent?
You side is lacking a heavyweight, ex-politician who crusades for something they feel is right.
I said: “Your team should find someone big and famous to promote whatever it is wackos righties like to fight for, to try and counter the former Vice President.”
Seriously. Who do you have?
March 4, 2007 - 01:24 PM on March 4th, 2007
And have any of you people looked at YOUR carbon footprint?
Do each of you recycle every last scrap of paper, plastic and glass that comes into your house? We do.
Did you get rid of your car? We did.
It’s the idea that Gore is promoting, that matters most.
Personally, I don’t care if he has a big house or flys often in jets…he is out there, getting the message to the masses - the place where it REALLY matters, not just with one individual man - to turn their lives into green ones to the best of their abilities.
I don’t think you get it…
March 4, 2007 - 02:02 PM on March 4th, 2007
Gore is actively promoting a non scientifically proven theory as a doomsday scenario and getting rich doing it. He is promoting a company that is benefitting himself and claiming he’s doing it to benefit mankind. I wonder if I could sell enough carbon credits on Ebay to buy a few hundred acres of farmland and plant an orchard powered by solar and wind turbines and fueled with biodiesel? Hell, grow organic fruits, peanuts and wheat. I could have a herd of organic bison and some beehives. It’s not really that I would care about the results being organic as much as it would save me a fortune on pesticides and I could charge extra for the crops as well. The peanuts would replenish the soil depleted by the wheat, and provide peanut oil for the biodiesel fermenter so I could use one year’s crop to power the farm machinery to plant and harvest the next’s. As for the Bison, they’re not very finicky eaters, they produce a lot more meat than cows, are healthier to eat and naturally disease resistant. Their hides also sell for 3 -4 times that of a cow. Of course you do realize I have probably turned every hard core liberal off of the idea of buying organic because I have just demonstrated how a capitalist can actually make the whole damn thing into that most dreaded of sins to a liberal…. Profitable.
On the topic of profit, let me give a little economics lesson to those who think profits are evil things. Without profit, businesses fail. Without profit, there is no incentive to explore, no incentive to experiment, no incentive to develop new things. Want to see biodiesel become widely available? Tell ExxonMobil that all biodiesel sales will be tax free for the next 10 years and that after that diesel fuels will be taxed like alcohol based on the percentage of petroleum used in their production. Want to see diesel cars and trucks become more readily available? Give the auto manufacturers tax breaks for every diesel passenger vehicle sold. That will give them the incentive to produce the cars that will use biodiesel. Ethanol is an alternative fuels dead end. Making, delivering and storing it is an economic disaster. Biodiesel isn’t. It can be mixed with regular diesel and doesn’t require any special handling or transportation measures. GM used to put a diesel engine in the subcompact Chevette that even one of the automotive trade magazines said was peppy. If Volkswagon can make a turbo diesel powered subcompact that gets 40+ miles to the gallon, why can’t anyone else? Because there isn’t any incentive there for them to do so.
As I have said many times, global warming is a fact. Human activity causing it is conjecture There are at least two KNOWN and PROVEN periods in history when the temperatures were higher than they are now for extended periods. There have also been a number of periods when the temps have been lower. Look up “Little Climatic Optimum” and “mini Ice Age” for examples of each. There is little if any untainted scientific data to indicate that anything that man does increases the rate of Global warming. There is a LOT of politically motivated pseudo science that SUGGESTS that human activity MAY have an impact but it certainly does not prove a causal effect. I personally would love to see alternative fuels become more available. I however know that the technology isn’t developed enough to make them an economically viable option at this point in time. In the mean time, since we are dependent on fossil fuels, we need to explore for and produce them as efficiently as possible. A professor of climatology was talking the other day about how the increased temperatures of the ocean caused by solar activity would cause the oceans to release CO2 into the atmosphere much as a warm soda goes flat. While there may be more CO2 in the atmosphere, and the global temperatures may be rising , the causal correlation simply can’t be proven. It’s the old which came first, the chicken or the egg question. Did global warming cause more CO2 or did more CO2 cause global warming?
March 4, 2007 - 02:02 PM on March 4th, 2007
Personally, I don’t care if he has a big house or flys often in jets:he is out there, getting the message to the masses…
So you acknowledge that your Leader is a hypocrite. But you don’t care. That’s the trouble with Liberalism. mIt’s all about telling other people how they should live their lives…
March 4, 2007 - 02:11 PM on March 4th, 2007
Gore nis a lying, manipulating, degenerate fraud and weasel. He has been exposed to be a con man. Now that the Global Warming hysteria has reached fever pitch, more and more scientists are stepping forward every day to debunki it.
I heard Gore’s movie thoroughly debunked on a radio interview the other night by a climatologist who is the foremost expert on hurricanes in this country. He wrote a book debunking this entire humans-cause-Global-Warming fraud.
Yes, the real science is now starting to come in, and it says Al Gore and his Church of Global Warming is a huge FRAUD.
Another Koolaid Drinker, Eben, SF Liberal, and Matthias you have really been suckered this time. You’ve taken the bait and swallowed the hook.
March 4, 2007 - 02:33 PM on March 4th, 2007
11- No I don’t recycle everything, nor do I intend to. I recycle cans and paper, that is all I will do.
Keeping my car, as did Gore, as there is no need to get rid of it. You too kept a car and by that I mean that you do rent cars to go soime places, so you didn’t give up cars all together did you..
March 4, 2007 - 02:49 PM on March 4th, 2007
“Are you saying that Gore doesn’t consistantly promote a message he feels is urgent?”
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.
“You side is lacking a heavyweight, ex-politician who crusades for something they feel is right.”
What exactly do you mean by “you(r) side”?
I have no side. Dems and reps polticians are both lying manipulative ego-centric idiots.
Gore is just as corrupt and impassionate about anything other than power and money than any other politician. But if you want a named dropped, Gore is no better than what Bush Sr. does for disaster releif.
But both, IMO, are insincere in what they do.
March 4, 2007 - 07:52 PM on March 4th, 2007
I don’t understand how you see Gore as “insincere” in wanting everyone to try be Green and for everyone to take better care of the planet.
I don’t see how that’s a money or profit issue for just one man.
Hell, maybe Jesus was “insincere” too…certainly His church and its leaders…
You gotta believe in something, man. Some believe in the power of Jesus to wash away their sins while some believe in the power of going Green to help the environment.
March 4, 2007 - 07:58 PM on March 4th, 2007
“Yes, the real science is now starting to come in, and it says Al Gore and his Church of Global Warming is a huge FRAUD.”
Yeeeah…keep believing that, robert.
You and your ilk are no better than Holocaust Deniers. It’s hillarious to watch.
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“No I don’t recycle everything, nor do I intend to. I recycle cans and paper, that is all I will do.”
Am glad you recycle some. Try doing plastic, too. Milk jugs, plastic food containers, etc…
They all take up landfill space.
March 4, 2007 - 08:00 PM on March 4th, 2007
“Another Koolaid Drinker, Eben, SF Liberal, and Matthias you have really been suckered this time. You’ve taken the bait and swallowed the hook.”
Yup, sure have. All of us, and, oh, the vast majority of global scientists and the most importantly, the majority of Americans.
LOL…no better than Holocaust Deniers, you people.
March 4, 2007 - 08:18 PM on March 4th, 2007
You gotta believe in something, man. Some believe in the power of Jesus to wash away their sins while some believe in the power of going Green to help the environment.
I could accept that if you meant it, but i don’t think you do..You seem to think there is something wrong with anyone that believes in Jesus and at the same time you think there is something wrong with anyone thst doesn’t believe in all the hype surrounding GW!
March 4, 2007 - 08:42 PM on March 4th, 2007
I don’t see how that’s a money or profit issue for just one man.
This smoking gun comes out, showing how Gore not only is part of a company that stand to make huge $ from selling Carbon Credits, but also buys his carbon credits from the same company, and you don’t see it? You can’t figure it out?
And no it isn’t just one man, there is a whole industry associated with Global Warming. Billions of dollars in research grant, money at stake, for starters.
And you just can’t see it? I thought you were much smarter than that.
March 4, 2007 - 08:44 PM on March 4th, 2007
Yup, sure have. All of us, and, oh, the vast majority of global scientists and the most importantly, the majority of Americans.
More specifically, the vast majority of global scientists who make their living off of researching this and are dependent on GW-related dollars. Plus the majority of the Americans duped into believing this fraud.
Just wanted to clarify…
March 4, 2007 - 08:54 PM on March 4th, 2007
You know, SFL, you have stated you are an atheist and oppose religion. Yet you are a zealot in the new Religion of Liberalism, and you have also eagerly joined the Church of Global Warming. And to top it off, the Church of Global Warming has now entered cult status.
It is indeed a cult. Anyone in the scientific research community dare not speak out against it or they risk losing funding plus being ostracized by their colleagues. Meteorologists are afraid to speak their mind because they know there are consequences to speaking the truth. Ask the Weather Channel meteorologists purged because they doubted that human activity is a significant contributor to GW. Just the failure to fully believe, accept without question, Church dogma is enough to get you purged.
AKD has been so zealous I think he should get the position of Deacon in his local Church of Global Warming. He has been such an outspoken promoter and defender of the Faith that he truly deserves special status. I think Al Gore himself, the Prophet, Messiah and Savior, should personally confer that status upon our friend Another Koolaid Drinker.
Now you, Eben, and Matthias are just small time zealots, so you could perhaps rise to the level of Acolyte if you play your cards right. But don’t worry, Acolyte is a rewarding and important position. They might let you carry Al Gore’s jockstrap sometime. What a thrill for you! I bet your friends in SF would just be incredulous if you told them you had that honor!
March 4, 2007 - 08:57 PM on March 4th, 2007
You and your ilk are no better than Holocaust Deniers. It’s hillarious to watch.
The Holocaust is proven. The human contribution to GW is a Hypothesis, nothing more. Do you know the difference? If not, you really should refrain from further comment.
March 5, 2007 - 12:28 AM on March 5th, 2007
“The Holocaust is proven.”
So is Global Warming. (!!!)
You Holocaust, er…I mean, Global Warming Deniers are almost enjoyable to listen to, if it wasn’t so sad.
You are among a very small minority of opinion on this issue.
thank the lord.
March 5, 2007 - 12:31 AM on March 5th, 2007
“the vast majority of global scientists who make their living off of researching this and are dependent on GW-related dollars. Plus the majority of the Americans duped into believing this fraud.”
Paranoia and Delusion.
(!)
March 5, 2007 - 01:58 AM on March 5th, 2007
So is Global Warming. (!!!)
Are you saying it is proven that human generation of greenhouse gases is causing GW?
If so, you are a babbling fool.
March 5, 2007 - 10:03 PM on March 5th, 2007
“I don’t understand how you see Gore as “insincere”in wanting everyone to try be Green and for everyone to take better care of the planet.”
Simple- critical examination of the evidence.
I don’t see how that’s a money or profit issue for just one man.
Oh, it isn’t just for one man at all. It is for several, including Gore, and several of his lackey from his VP days (just read the site that was linked), and several other folks it appears they’ve given incentive to.
“Hell, maybe Jesus was “insincere”too:certainly His church and its leaders:”
Whether Jesus was or not is irrelevant to this discussion, but it was a nice attempt at deflection and appealing to emotion rather than reason.
“You gotta believe in something, man. Some believe in the power of Jesus to wash away their sins while some believe in the power of going Green to help the environment.”
I believe in the facts as presented. The facts are that algore profits personally from at the very least the debate and the very most the universal acceptance of human caused global warming as fact.
The motivation of algore’s personal profit decries insincerity. It is PMRC-like.
March 5, 2007 - 10:07 PM on March 5th, 2007
Being completely out of ammunition, unable to come up with an argument, AKD falls silent and leaves this thread.
San Francisco Liberal attempted to make a statement, but also fell well short.
The debate is over in this venue. Al Gore and the Church of Global Warming are 100% FRAUD.
March 18, 2007 - 06:23 AM on March 18th, 2007
one can always tell when someone is just blowing smoke when it comes to the theory of global warming. there is no theory, but if there were the first law would be that wingnuts are wacked.