The cultural jihad proceeds in Germany; banks are abandoning the European tradition of giving “piggy banks” to children, and in a disturbing echo of events here in the US, Muslim cabdrivers are refusing service to passengers based on shari’a law: Islam is Taking a Grip on Europe.
And right behind the cultural jihadis: Islamic militants warn Austria, Germany.
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Solingen- Overt racism has been widespread in former communist eastern Germany where unification brought mass unemployment, and where people lived for decades without meeting foreigners, apart from Soviet soldiers and eastern European tourists.
And all examples seem to be the same. What I got out of it was that these people were adjusting to a wall being taken down, their way of life changed, no jobs and no food, and they didn’t have dark skinned people amongst them when th wall was up…isn’ that how you justified the Germans going along with Hitler?
46- I only referred to offenses against muslims in the recent history (my own lifetime)..
47- If you look up the statistics of the BKA (the German FBI) or links like this ( http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,457997,00.html ) you will see what I mean.
The translation of the header is:
“Germany is about to reach a sad record at rightist extremist crimes: Until end of November 2006 the Police recorded federation wide more than 11,000 offenses. This has been the highest value for the last five years.”
48- Nothing “justifies” going along with Hitler… It happened and I can’t change it, but try to learn for the future.
How do you justify electing a government that brings civil war to another country?
49, Mattias, why are you perfectly happy when Muslims commit mass murder and genocide?
You care to criticize Iran about sending commandoes disguised as pilgims on the Hajj to Mecca to wrest Mecca away from the Sunni Saudis?
As usual, Mattias, you love to criticize when you THINK you aren’t being a hypocrite, but that just makes you a maximum hypocrite because you are as shallow as a saucer.
From Peejz:
Abuse plagues Muslim women in Germany
German Leader Warns Against Bowing to Fear of Muslim Violence
German lawmaker blames Islam for religious violenceÂ
Pope’s Remarks on Islam, Violence Spur Anger
German judge okays Islamic call to violence
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PCD- I couldn’t do a post with all links so I added my post to your #50
51, that’s ok.
Mattias had better recognize that muslims dish out more death and dieruption world wide than to non-muslims.
50- “Mattias, why are you perfectly happy when Muslims commit mass murder and genocide?”
I am not happy with anybody committing mass murder/genocide, but if I compare the body count in this area between muslim terrorists and your “noble” coalition it’s probably something around 5,000 vs 50,000 civilian victims… and just guess who gained the highscore!!
51, wrong-o! Saddam killed hundreds of thousands. They are still digging up the mass graves in Iraq. That is just Iraq. But I forgot, you don’t count Jews killed do you.
You don’t count the victims of AlQaeda do you?
YOu F’ing hypocrite.
54- “51, wrong-o! Saddam killed hundreds of thousands. They are still digging up the mass graves in Iraq. That is just Iraq. But I forgot, you don’t count Jews killed do you.
You don’t count the victims of AlQaeda do you?
YOu F’ing hypocrite.”
PCD, you are slowly running out of control…
After you attacked Bernie in this thread, you now start insulting Peejz. Did you ever consider consulting a specialist?
49 – I am afraid you are wrong – the article reports attacks against Jews and Jewish property. Nice try, but even in the US, even after 9/11 there are more than 5 times as many hate crimes against Jews as against Muslims despite the fact that there are 6 million of each in America.
All the hate crimes by the right are not against Muslims but in fact are in the majority against Jews, just the same in France. So stop whining about the Muslims being attacked. Given the brutality of their rapes against white European women and their arrogant demands for their host countries to submit to their ways and culture, I’m rather surprised that the Europeans don’t actual attack more Muslims. In fact, they should be ashamed they don’t attack more Muslims. And before you bring up that Germany once attacked Jews for no reason, yes that was bad because it was for NO reason. Attacking Muslims on the other hand certainly is not without provocation.
The Jews never posed any danger to Germany in 1933. So attacks against them were unjustified. You certainly cannot be trying to tell me that Muslims pose no danger in Europe and this country today?
But as much as I sympathize with anyone who attacks a Muslim who advocates turning their host country into an Islamic nation, I would prefer if they simply deported every last single one of them. But if they don’t leave willingly, don’t expect any sympathy from me.
56- “I am afraid you are wrong – the article reports attacks against Jews and Jewish property.”
No, I am not. The article also refers to anti-semite incidents as violent offenses. But amongst those 657 violent offenses (don’t know if this is the right term- I mean offenses in which persons were directly attacked) the fewest will have been offenses against jewish citizens- simply because it is much easier for neo-nazis to identify a southern foreigner than a middle european jewish citizen (of which we don’t much many here anyway).
And the article also refers to it:
“Im Januar 2006 quälten Rassisten in Pömmelte einen zwölfjährigen, dunkelhäutigen Jungen.” As your German appears to be similar good as mine, I guess I won’t have to translate it…
Besides, why is it that US conservatives always accuse everybody of anti-semitism while openly showing their “anti-muslimism”?
Mattias, you are quite the Schwein-hundt. You knew I was addressing you and not Peejz. You also could not refute me, and therefore resorted to obfuscation. The points I made are now considered won. Deal with it.
PCD – I bet you think Christianity was the best thing to happen to the American Indians as well? -I bet you think they were thrilled to convert, after the Christians just asked them nicely.
Point is – Religion is a killer my friends. They’ve all had there time to shine.
58- PCD-Darling,
if I said you were absolutely right with every statement, fart or other gift to the world from your side… that you were the queen of the hill, the universe and its surroundings… and if I said loud and clearly for everone to hear that you probably have the most wonderful firm tits that a dedicated girl like you is supposed to have…
If I did all this with a spoon of whipped cream on top of it: Would there be a chance for me to be spared by your proofs of affection?
ryan, most atheists don’t have any answers, but deny that others do have the answers. Homosexuality is a truly dead end. You have noting to offer in your philosophies except void and misery.
Religion is not a killer Ryan, man is!
60,I just noticed this. It may explain why Mattias is such a blind jerk.
Earlier this month, a German teen-ager was forcibly taken from her parents and imprisoned in a psychiatric ward. Her crime? She is being home-schooled. . . . Home-schooling has been illegal in Germany since Adolf Hitler outlawed it in 1938 and ordered all children to be sent to state schools . . . Home-schooling families are prosecuted without mercy.
“…All German political parties, including the Christian Democrats of Chancellor Angela Merkel, are opposed to home-schooling. They say that ‘the obligation to attend school is a civil obligation, that cannot be tampered with.’ . . . Six decades after Hitler, German politicians and church leaders still do not understand true freedom: that raising children is a prerogative of their fathers and mothers and not of the state, which is never a benevolent parent and often an enemy.
“…In Germany, schools have become vehicles of indoctrination, where children are brought up to unquestioningly accept the authority of the state in all areas of life.”
- Paul Belien, editor of the Brussels Journal
62. Religion is not a killer Ryan, man is!
Oh thats right, and “guns don’t kill people, people kill people right?”
I would argue that the gun certainly wouldn’t help the situation, nor would religion.
61. Actually, most Atheists DO have answers, both scientific and mathematical. That is what irritates the Religious so. The religious do not have any other the “answers” because there belief is in a faith, not the truth.
Ever wonder why practicing mathematics was once consider damnable and illegal in Rome. That St. Augestine warned “Any good Christian to beware of mathematics.” That is because it will ultimately lead to proving them wrong, and thus, yanking their authority.
Hope and pray all you want. I’d prefer to actually get things done.
64, like what? Going to Hell?
Atheism is like Global Warming, a religion delcared true via junk science and concensus of its adherants.
Homosexuality is a truly dead end
I suppose if everyone on this Earth decided to be queer, and thus, stopped procreating -we’d be in trouble as a race. Thankfully, I don’t see this actually happening.
PCD – I also suppose you are against gay marriage, as it would somehow ruin the “sanctity” of marriage. Got news for ya, this has been ruined for many, many years.
I remember a quote from the “all knowing” Bill O’Reilly. He said “what happens if we allow gay marriage, whats next? What are we to say if someone wants to marry a duck?” Well Bill, as rediculous as your statement sounds, what if we do allow someone to marry a duck? How could that possibly have any impact on Bills (or anyones) life?
Atheism is like Global Warming, a religion delcared true via junk science and concensus of its adherants.
This is where you are completely wrong PCD. Its actually the other way around. Atheism is a belief of facts, reality. Religion is a belief in faith (or hope).
By the way – Your kind created Hell. Don’t expect others to by into this rediculous notion.
“The almighty, all loving God will send you straight to Hell, to burn eternally, if you question his everlasting love for you.” Am I really the only one who thinks this is incredibly absurd?
66. Just coming back after a brief hiatis. Ryan you are too funny. What would happen if we allowed someone to marry a duck, their sibling, their parent, or anyone or thing they wanted. How would it impact our lives? Well, it certainly would give the aliens in outer space some amusing stories to tell don’t ya’ think?
Ryan, like all atheists, you thank and act like you are a god yourself. You think you have control over facts, natural laws, and the afterlife (or lack of it). I laugh at you who think you are going to tell God where to stick it and what you are going to do when you die.
It is more laughable that you have to impose your ideas upon the religious. That action belies each and every argument you make.
Why don’t you regale us with the cause of the “Big Bang”?
Hey folks,
what are you talking about… I thought this thread was on Muslims & Germany?!? Now we’ve come to homosexual atheism as the reason for global warming- that’s quite a jumps!!
63- http://www.dumblaws.com/index.php
…well organized with dumb laws for each (US) state…
And actually: How does it come that when I refer to your tits being wonderful & firm you call me a blind jerk…?
It is more laughable that you have to impose your ideas upon the religious. That action belies each and every argument you make.
Not impose my dear PCD, thats your job. I simply suggest what I would think would be the obvious.
As far as me thinking I am God, if that means I have control over what happens in my life, than I agree. I like to take responsibility for my actions, not blame it on God, or wait for him to fullfill my every wish. I go out and to it myself. Guess thats what sets us apart.
To me Christianity preaches look to god for answers. I preach, find them yourself, lazy.
Well, it certainly would give the aliens in outer space some amusing stories to tell don’t ya’ think?
You don’t think they have enough to laugh about as it is?
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Face it folks, religion only serves to seperate us (as humans) further.
Doesn’t anyone find it ironic that from the dawn of man we have been worshipping “God” whatever he/she/it might currently be.
Do you think, just maybe, that man invented God due to his fear of death? It does provide an otherwise hopeless situation, with well, hope.
-No couldn’t be. One of these Gods is definetley the right one, and to bad for all those who picked the wrong one. That is just silly you guys, come on.
You mean to tell me that Christians actually believe the creater of this universe devised a LOTTERY to decide who come into heaven, and who doesn’t?
You win this lottery based on where you were born geographically, and whether or not you have even been introduced to Christianity.
If this is really your belief of God, count me out.
70. Sorry Matthias, I tend to birdwalk.
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PCD – I suppose back in the day you would be the first to have me hung for excersising my free will (you know what God graciously provided each of us with) and thinking for myself. Thats really sad PCD. Really sad.
63. Nice link. I had a laugh.
I think PCD is a man, who may be self conscious about his boobs. Although, I was convinced by his wording that he was female. My mistake.
I found this out when Peejz editted my post for me. Thanks Peejz, now I am scarred to type anything on here. I may look back to see that my posts were turned to Nazi propaganda w/o my knowledge or consent.
75- I’m not sure…
I think earlier on PCD mentioned the she is a she, but I can be wrong.
However (so much politically incorrectness I allow myself), her touchy and irrational temper has quite a lack testosterone-based selfcontrol… only girls can be that bitchy. That can not be excused by her radical conservative attitude alone!
75,
On-line, the owner of the website is God. There is no Democracy. you take the same chance anywhere.
76.
How sexist.
75-I may look back to see that my posts were turned to Nazi propaganda w/o my knowledge or consent. I don’t need to consult you, nor do I need your consent on anything Ryan.
67- Atheism is a belief of facts, reality. Religion is a belief in faith (or hope).
Wrong!
Atheism is the disbelief[1] in the existence of any deities.[2] It is contrasted with theism, the belief in a God or gods. Atheism is commonly defined as the positive belief that deities do not exist, or as the deliberate rejection of theism.[3][4][5] However, others”including most atheistic philosophers and groups”define atheism as the simple absence of belief in deities[6][7][8] (cf. nontheism), thereby designating many agnostics, and people who have never heard of gods, such as newborn children, as atheists as well.[9][10] In recent years, some atheists have adopted the terms strong and weak atheism to clarify whether they consider their stance one of positive belief (strong atheism) or the mere absence of belief (weak atheism).[11][12][13]
Many self-described atheists share common skeptical concerns regarding supernatural claims, citing a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Other rationales for atheism range from the philosophical to the social to the historical. Although atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism, rationalism, and naturalism, there is no one ideology or set of behaviors that all atheists adhere to.[14][15][16]
79. You are correct Peejz. We don’t believe in the tooth fairy. We believe and rely on science/reason.
80, If you believe in man-made GW, ryan, you do not rely on reason and science, but hysteria and political consensus.
Personally, I have no qualms about believing in something on the basis of faith. One can do so logically, althoughnot empirically. That does not rule out reason, but does rule out scientific method.
I refuse to frame my life around science though. There is much more to life, and since it is my viewpoint that there are concepts in the universe that to us as a race is incomprehensible I do not find that to be an unreasonable.
One can do so logically, althoughnot empirically. That does not rule out reason, but does rule out scientific method.
I wonder how someones faith could rule out science?
Walking on the Moon use to be incomprehensible. Exploring deep space use to be incomprehensible. Thanks to science and mathematics, we can now accomplish these once incomprehensible tasks.
I guess we could’ve just waited around for God to send us a spaceship, and some satelites. Although, something tells me we’d still be waiting.
I don’t need to consult you, nor do I need your consent on anything Ryan.
You’re right Peejz, you’re a big girl. Although a quick “I’ve altered your post” would be common courtesy, and appreciated. Especially if you are going to alter in way that makes the initial posting appear incompetent.
You’re so silly Peejz.
I’ll alter the stupidity any way I see fit…I sincerly hope you don’t consider yourself superior to PCD in anyway, as your behavior is no better than his.
Thats what I find so entertaining Peejz. I do not consider myself superior to anyone, for any reason. There is no need to. That only welcomes a sense of arrogance -which by your last message, I can see you are quite so.
I will leave you to tend to your minions.
It has been interesting.
I sincerly hope you don’t consider yourself superior to PCD in anyway, as your behavior is no better than his
PCD – I sense by the above that Peejz is not impressed with your behavior. Perhaps you should seek her guidence.
“I wonder how someones faith could rule out science?”
I didn’t say that it did at all Ryan. I said that one can have a faithed based belief in something and do so logically even though one can not do so empirically, and thus it rules out scientific method.
“Walking on the Moon use to be incomprehensible. Exploring deep space use to be incomprehensible.”
Not at all. Once these examples you gave were discovered as where their nature, it was comprehsible. You are confusing “incomprehensible” with “unknown”.
“Thats what I find so entertaining Peejz. I do not consider myself superior to anyone, for any reason. There is no need to. That only welcomes a sense of arrogance -which by your last message, I can see you are quite so.”
With all due respect Ryan, that isn’t the impression you’ve given. A simple example is your next sentence:
“I will leave you to tend to your minions.”
I am not sure if this is indeed the case here, but many athiests have an inate irreverence for others religious beliefs. It seems some are incapable of disagreeing with folks without said cockiness, such as metaphoring God as “The Tooth Fairy”.
What this triggers is an automatic antogonism. many times it is not intended, although sometimes it is. But I have to ask: If that is one’s intention, then how does one expect to not be marginalized from the beginning? How can one expect to be taken as a legitimate convesationalist on the topic instead of said antagonist?