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Recall Governor Granholm & Open Trackbacks

By: Pam On: Mar/15/07 - 54 Comments

I am begging all those that belong to Link-fest Haven and Open track-back alliance to help me out with this!

High taxes lead businesses to flee the Wolverine State.

Comerica Inc. was founded in 1849 in Detroit and the Detroit Tigers play in Comerica Park, but this week the bank holding company announced it is moving its headquarters to Dallas–where, it said, the bigger growth opportunities are. Consider it one more vote of confidence in the state the national expansion forgot, and especially in Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm’s economic agenda.

Re-elected last year, Ms. Granholm recently rewarded the voters by announcing some $1 billion in new fees and tax increases. The plan would charge Michigan residents higher levies for almost every activity inside the state with a moving part. She would tax trucking, shopping, smoking, hunting, fishing, drinking beer and liquor, using a cell phone and, yes, even dying.

Her plan does complete the phase-out of the state’s hated “single business tax,” which the Tax Foundation has called one of the most anti-growth business taxes in the nation. She should have stopped right there. Instead the Governor wants to create a new corporate income tax as well as a new 2% excise tax on upwards of 100 business services. The net effect would be to raise Michigan’s overall business tax burden. She’d also impose a 5% death tax on estates valued at more than $2 million–which is a sure way to encourage even more Michigan retirees to relocate to Florida.

The Governor says all of this is essential to close an $860 million budget deficit, but the levies are part of what has become a vicious cycle for Michigan: Poor growth causes lower revenues, so raise taxes, which leads to even poorer growth, so raise taxes again. The state has lost some 362,000 jobs since 2000 and the jobless rate in December was 7.1%, second highest in the country after Katrina-ravaged Mississippi’s 7.5%. The national rate is 4.6%.

A new analysis by economist David Littman of the Mackinac Center reveals that the per capita income in the state fell to its lowest level in 75 years in 2005, relative to the national average. (See the recent trend in the nearby chart.) All of this is in contrast to the growth Michigan experienced in the 1990s, under former Governor John Engler, who succeeded in cutting income-tax rates and the welfare rolls.

It’s true that some of Michigan’s current woes are due to the secular decline of the U.S. auto makers and their unionized lack of competitiveness. In essence, the U.S. auto industry has been gradually relocating to more hospitable, right-to-work states. But that’s all the more reason for Michigan to improve the business climate for other industries, though this is exactly the opposite of what Ms. Granholm plans.

Meanwhile, her budget would increase spending by 2.2% and pay off the teachers unions that support her with a new $178 per pupil spending increase, most of which would be absorbed by the bureaucracy and never see a classroom. This continues the state’s lack of spending restraint; between 1995 and 2007 Michigan spent an aggregate $14 billion above the rate of inflation and state population growth, according to a Mackinac study.

Public-employee unions are especially powerful in the state, and Ms. Granholm bows to their every wish. One result is that, according to the Governor’s own Financial Advisory Panel, the state has amassed a $35 billion unfunded liability in its public-school health and retirement benefits. The state spends a whopping $1,200 per student per year on teacher and administrator benefits.

Republicans lost the state House last fall, but they still control the Senate and are vowing to fight the Governor’s tax increases. We hope they succeed lest the state continue to lose taxpayers and business to more favorable climes.

And from Recall Granholm:

Granholm was reelected due to national politics    

Michigan is in a unique situation due to its economy!

Statistics from granholmrecord.com:

51st in growth of home values

Detroit ranks #2 most dangerous city in the US, Flint is #3 most dangerous

Vetoed 4 year limit on welfare (Vermont is the only other state with no limits)

Michigan faces possible $100 million in sanctions if no working welfare workers

Increased Medicare costs from $5.6 billion to $7.2 billion

Detroit ranked behind Cleveland as second poorest major city

Detroit household incomes dropped 18.8% 1999-2005

Failed to work with Delphi then blasted Delphi after it filed for bankrupcy

2700 Electrolux AB employees jobless in Greenville,Mi after Granholm failed to act

Due to Electrolux layoffs, Montcalm County opened its first homless shelter for men

Failed to meet with Honda, losing 1500 jobs, $400 million

Dept of Human Services overpaid $25.5 million for welfare in 2003

Granholm increased taxes by $2 billion

7.1% unemployment rate (37% more than the national average)

Falsely claimed she landed Google-Larry Page, cofounder, is the son of

Michigan State University computer science professor Dr. Carl Victor Page

Vetoed road project Ford Wixom plant, then plant closed

nearly half (44.7%) Detroit children live in poverty, 31.7% adults live in poverty

50th in per capital gross state product growth

ranked 49th best state to do business in

manufacturing jobs lost since 2003-115,700

Foreclosures doubled in two years; RealtyTrac states Detroit, Livonia, Dearborn are

number one in the nation for most foreclosures, 4 times the national average

544 schools failing to meet federal standards

bottom 4 states to improve teacher quality

signed HB5029 allowing hunters to hunt mourning doves for target practice with

the potential for lead hazards in decaying birds

Michigan ranked D for computers in classrooms

6 people released from prison during Granholm tenure due to administrative failures:

Patrick Selepak was released due to an error in parole violation and was one of the 6.

Since 2003, 53,000 more with no health insurance

Michigans graduation rate dropped from 76.2% to 74%

321 Foster Care providers convicted of crimes both sexual and domestic abuse

ranked 10 out of 10 in disaster readiness
failed to eliminate SBT- 80,000 jobs lost

We need volunteers to help in this effort: 25% Michigan voters needed to sign petition  in 90 days

to force a special election after a successful recall.

To contact us email us at contact @ recallgranholm . com

 

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54 Responses to “Recall Governor Granholm & Open Trackbacks”

  1. Robert
    March 15, 2007 - 05:58 PM on March 15th, 2007

    I’d say the voters of Michigan deserve what they voted for, but being from Kalifornia I am in no position to criticize, given the offal we send to Washington.

  2. Peejz
    March 15, 2007 - 06:50 PM on March 15th, 2007

    The idiots do get what they deserve, but I am worried about the rest of us! This is very serious!:sad:

  3. PCD
    March 16, 2007 - 06:52 AM on March 16th, 2007

    Iowa passed a $1/psck increase in cigarette taxes. The dumbass governor is going to fund a health care plan with the money. BUT, he stands like a deer in the headlights when asked where he’s going to get the money to continue funding his initiative when the revenues go down because people either quit smoking (one of his goals for the tax increase), or buy their smokes out of state or off of Indian Reservations. Also, He’s going to do nothing about the businesses that are hurt or have to close because of the lack of business.

  4. Peejz
    March 16, 2007 - 08:09 AM on March 16th, 2007

    3- I think he and Jennifer plotted together on that cigarette tax. Our cigs are taxed at a rate of $2.50 per pack….After she proudly did this, she now wants to ban smoking all over:eek:

    I am a smoker, trying to quit…If the plan was to get people to quit, that is okay, but for Gods sake, don’t budget the revenues from the tax.

    Jennifer kept telling us we would be blown away, but I am thinking it is her that will be ousted before she can destroy anymore.

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    March 16, 2007 - 12:29 PM on March 16th, 2007

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    March 16, 2007 - 01:46 PM on March 16th, 2007

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  7. BonBon
    March 16, 2007 - 03:44 PM on March 16th, 2007

    Hi Peejz…try the nicotine inhaler. It works like a charm as you get the ‘inhale’ everytime you want a cig without all the garbage and can ween yourself off slowly from the cravings. Then try walking a mile or more each day.

    Seven years and I feel great. Good luck. :wink:

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  14. Peejz
    March 16, 2007 - 07:23 PM on March 16th, 2007

    Thanks Bon Bon….my doc put me on ibuteron(?) and it has cut it down to about 5 smokes a day from about 18 smokes a day….I’m hoping it works…:wink:

    7 years!? Congrats to you! I hope you never smoke again!

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    March 17, 2007 - 07:22 AM on March 17th, 2007

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    March 17, 2007 - 03:47 PM on March 17th, 2007

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  25. The World According To Carl
    March 17, 2007 - 11:18 PM on March 17th, 2007

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  26. Democratic Edge
    March 17, 2007 - 11:31 PM on March 17th, 2007

    I am not here to defend the Governor… personally I do not believe that she needs to be defended. I would like to point ou that you have not given any credit, none at all, to the Republican Legislators who carved out tax-cut after tax-cut for special interests over the past 12 years (actually 20 years).

    I whole-heartedly disagree that the previous election was driven by national politics. The Democratic wave wasn’t the problem… the problem is that Saul Azunis has no idea what he is doing, he is kind of retarded in a Bill O’Reilly way. Dick DeVos was the worst possible candidate that the Republicans could have put up as a candidate, (other than the fact that he was willing and able to mostly self-fund his campaign), West Michigan already knows all about him and are not easily confused between Dick and his Dad, and East Michigan just couldn’t trust a guy who always looked over-tanned and greasy.

    No… Granholm won the election based on the leadership that she has provided in the past. The largest factor of our budget crisis is that DeVos and the Chamber of Commerce forced the early repeal of the SBT without first securing a replacement; a very irresponsible thing to do… but all a part of their master plan. The master plan being to stall, and stall forcing deep, scaring cuts to the public services that the people of Michigan depend upon, especially the less fortunate. After the cuts are forced, the replacement business tax will be much, much lower.

    Yes, Michigan is in a crisis. I would recommend looking in to the damage caused by the Republican Legislators of the past 20 years, specifically the past 12 years. Look at the Bills, Look at the Votes, and do the research in a responsible manner… don’t just point a finger and blame the Governor without first looking at who caused the problems, not at who was the executive during the aftermath.

  27. A Few Shiny Pebbles
    March 18, 2007 - 12:20 AM on March 18th, 2007

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    March 18, 2007 - 07:52 AM on March 18th, 2007

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    March 18, 2007 - 12:52 PM on March 18th, 2007

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  30. Renaissance Blogger
    March 18, 2007 - 02:15 PM on March 18th, 2007

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  31. Woman Honor Thyself
    March 18, 2007 - 02:43 PM on March 18th, 2007

    Welcome to Targetstan

    Let’s see:What else do paid employees get to decide on:and What else won’t they “ring up”?

  32. FrmrArtyOffcr
    March 18, 2007 - 05:55 PM on March 18th, 2007

    I believe it was Allen Greenspan that once said, “If revenues go up after a tax rate cut, you haven’t cut them enough.”

    What a lot of people fail to realize is that because of the way that the economy works, tax rate cuts almost invariably increase revenues. Here is a layman’s explanation that I hope helps. Companies can only bring in so much money with a set amount of labor and material. Out of that supply of money, labor, material and Taxes have to be paid. When tax rates are too high, production has to be cut. If production is forced down too far, the company goes out of business. It doesn’t matter how nice a product is, if the company can’t make and sell enough of them to keep the lights on, they go out of business. If your job pays you $1000 a month after taxes and your bills total $1100 a month, you’re in trouble. Companies are the same way. If they can’t make the payroll because they can’t sell enough product to bring in enough revenue, they’re done.

    Simple economic theory is that no product is worth more than the labor put into producing it. No item is worth one cent more than you can sell it for. That’s why minimum wage laws are generally detrimental to an economy. They don’t allow for the fact that some people simply aren’t willing to produce enough to make paying them a decent wage realistic. How realistic is it to insist that an employer pay a worker more than he produces?

  33. Democratic Edge
    March 19, 2007 - 08:33 AM on March 19th, 2007

    While your economic theory is true. Practicality and history show a different reality to your theory. Michigan has seen 20 years of constant tax cuts. Most of these cuts are in the business sector. Michigan’s former Single Business tax (SBT) started at 5.9%, then lowered to 3.9%. Cuts continued in the SBT for 12 straight years as targeted industries were given an exemption here, and an exemption there. The SBT ended up being so carved up, that in 2006 39% of ALL Michigan businesses (mostly large manufacturing) were paying 93% of the entire SBT tax statewide. In the meantime, $3 Billion was cut from state government from 2002 – 2006. So the tax cuts were made, the cuts were made… and Michigan still suffers.

  34. TedintheShed
    March 19, 2007 - 09:25 AM on March 19th, 2007

    I remember Michigan 20-25 years ago- it was suffering. Folks were moving out becasue of lack of jobs. It was one of the worse states economically in the union. My recollection my be wrong, but up until recently they were on an upward trend.

  35. Peejz
    March 19, 2007 - 02:05 PM on March 19th, 2007

    12- Ted it has been suffering but not nearly as bad as it has in the past 5 years…DeVos would have done much for the state, but instead we are stuck with Jennifer..the unions did their thing and look what we are stuck with….this state has been giving tax cuts and we are still over taxed…

    Shall I get into the limitless welfare and the lax standards for qualifying for medicaid?

  36. Lenny
    March 19, 2007 - 05:30 PM on March 19th, 2007

    The only thing wrong in Michigan is that the State doesn’t do more for it’s citizens! Health care, food, housing, a good-paying job, these are all rights! Health care and food, especially, should be free!!!

    If the foolish voters all over the country had only voted in Democratic leaders everywhere this would be a reality! Everyone would have health care, everyone would have food and housing! This wouldn’t even be an issue anymore!

    The Democratic Party for years has been trying to eradicate poverty! Were it not for the obstructionism of the right wing, and greedy selfish people who actually think the wages they are paid belong only to them, this would be reality!

    Hillary/O’Bama in ‘08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. Lenny
    March 19, 2007 - 05:36 PM on March 19th, 2007

    #9 you are right! this is a Republican problem! The answer is to RAISE taxes! Make those greedy Republican corporations pay their fair share, whatever it is at the time we decide that is fair!

    The gov’t cannot do what it needs to do to ensure the needs of all, especially the less fortunate, can be met unless TAXES ARE RAISED!

    RAISE TAXES NOW! THEN RAISE THEM AGAION

  38. PCD
    March 19, 2007 - 06:43 PM on March 19th, 2007

    Lenny is target #1 in the Civil War the Libs are trying to start.

  39. Robert
    March 19, 2007 - 08:29 PM on March 19th, 2007

    Lenny is at least an honest Leftist. He is right up front with the things so many Libs and Democrites and Lefties secretly yearn for but are afraid to come out and say directly.

    The Left is the scourge of mankind. It is part of what makes humans imperfect. :lol:

  40. Right Celebrity
    March 19, 2007 - 11:40 PM on March 19th, 2007

    The Death of Sinbad is Inevitable

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  41. Right Celebrity
    March 19, 2007 - 11:40 PM on March 19th, 2007

    The Death of Sinbad is Inevitable

    The internet is buzzing about the Wikipedia goof in which an obituary was erroneously written for Sinbad’s death. Sinbad, of course, is the funny comedian who is probably laughing about this a lot more than the sheepish editors at Wikipedia. US…

  42. PCD
    March 20, 2007 - 06:45 AM on March 20th, 2007

    Robert,

    Maybe it is about time the Lennys of the world realize that getting into people’s faces constantly and declaring that they are freeloaders and that you are going to support their freeloading is going to get a very negative reaction. This is also why we must protect the 2nd amendment.

  43. TedintheShed
    March 20, 2007 - 12:23 PM on March 20th, 2007

    Maybe its about time folks realize how foolish multi-nics make the denizens of this board appear.

  44. San Francisco Liberal
    March 24, 2007 - 05:02 PM on March 24th, 2007

    I don’t miss living in Michigan.

  45. FrmrArtyOffcr
    March 25, 2007 - 12:04 AM on March 25th, 2007

    Democratic Edge, you’re almost there man. You agree that my (well not mine but the one I’m referencing is correct) economic theory is correct but you’re not drawing it out to its full conclusion. The easiest way I can put it to you is, if given a choice between paying high taxes and low taxes where would you run your business? You’re shocked that 39% of the businesses pay 93 percent of the taxes? You don’t deal much with small business accounting do you? Most small businesses do not turn a profit their first 3 years. That was the problem with the dot coms. People thought that they could be the next Amazon without realizing that Amazon was in the red for most of its first five years. 50% of all businesses fail within the first 3 years. I would hazard a guess that of the 61% that are only paying 7 % of the tax, most of them are start ups and 5 out of six will be out of business in the next 3 years. Them having to pay additional taxes will only hasten that demise.

    The problem with the services being cut back isn’t that the services are being reduced but rather that people have come to rely on government assistance as a lifestyle. It stopped being a hand up and became a hand out decades ago. I worked in or managed two rent to own stores. Our customers were far from destitute, but many had been living in government housing for decades. I lost count of how many multidisk CD changers, home theater systems, or big screen tvs I’ve delivered to people living in government housing (aka “the projects”) because it was cheaper than renting a regular apartment. We had customers who were spending $100 / week renting big screens and other consumer electronics while crying poor and living in government housing. What is wrong with that picture? Too poor to pay rent so the government has to pay it for them, but not too poor to spend over $450 a month to rent a big screen TV with a home theater system. They were living in 2 story tonwhouses with utilities capped at $30/month. The problem isn’t that they’re cutting services that people need, it’s that the people have become such parasites that they need someone to wipe their noses for them.

  46. Aaron
    March 30, 2007 - 01:57 AM on March 30th, 2007

    #13 – While I wholeheartedly agree that there are many people on welfare and medicaid that don’t deserve it (my neighbor STARTED a pro motorcross career while on welfare!), I can tell you from personal experience that the standards are not exactly lax right now. Granted, my experience is only in the last year with lots of people in charge that I’m not a big fan of…

    I ruptured a disc in my spine several years ago at work and was generally taken care of by worker’s comp for a while – until they decided (post-surgery and before they paid the bill) that my injury didn’t happen at work (lawsuit pending, to say the least). I didn’t qualify for state assistance during that period so I didn’t apply for it. It has now been a YEAR, four identical re-application forms, and two state-paid doctors later and they’re barely giving me enough assistance (for food only) to keep me alive. Even though several of my own doctors (helping me for free I might add) have testified in my comp case that I’m permanently disabled and will most likely not be able to work again.

    Now, in the past week, I’ve been told I need to fill out all these forms again or I’m losing my meager food stamp allotment. With Granholm’s threatened state shut-down, I’m not exactly hopeful that I’ll be getting ANY financial aid, let alone renewed food stamps.

    As I said, I think the standards for receiving assistance were lax at some point, but they sure aren’t right now. Were it not for my parents spending their retirement money on my care, I’d be out on the street right now. So I’m not arguing with you – just presenting a different perspective.

    Aaron

  47. Peejz
    March 30, 2007 - 08:36 AM on March 30th, 2007

    Aaron- I’m sorry to hear what you have gone through. Not to add insult to injury, but my sister in law was a workmans comp case from MO, in that state, you can or could sue the same company twice for the same injury?!, at least that’s what she said..anyway, welfare Susie made her way back to MI and is now receiving all the state assistance you could only hope for…she had no problem getting right on….She’s married to a guy that has no intention of ever working. Last I heard, she got a hearing aid, 4-5 various surgeries, and all the meds she does and doesn’t need.

    My mother in law(poor because of her own actions and that is a fascinating study into how to easily get benefits cause everyone owes me mentality) was put into a nursing home under false pretenses. The home knew the family was lying, as well as my mother in law. I got with the Attorney Generals office and asked for an investigation. Within 4 days I had a reply that the state investigated the situation is not going to do anything. Within the letter was a flyer asking that anyone knowing of, report medicaid fraud!…here’s the kicker…the family sold her home and split the money…state got nothing. She stayed in that home for 1-1/2 years. That was minimum $7000 per month that could have gone to someone deserving…

    Why would I throw that up at you? Not to be mean, but to point out that it is the honest guy that wants to work that gets kicked around. You should be at the top of the list, not excluded entirely! Your case is a bit different in that workman’s comp is involved. Those attorneys expect that you will give up because they will drag it out and try to force your hand. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t investigate your actions on the street. (taking video when you are not aware of it) Thank god for your parents.

    Aaron, you are the perfect example of what the system was set up to take care of. You are also the perfect example of how the system needs a complete overhaul, if not privatized and get state workers out of it. You are not included in the 4 years and your off mantra that I scream. You are a disability case and that is vastly different.

    Granholm didn’t inherit a bad economy, she inherited the auto industry. Rather than deal with the handwriting that was on the wall 20 years prior to her campaigning, she blames Bush. She courts union jobs and brings 600 all the while, 2800 are leaving at the exact same time. The auto industry were one of the 1st to outsource overseas, to save a buck(think plants in Canada and Mexico), but now the unions scream about how unfair outsourcing is? We lost work to Ohio and Indiana that should have come to MI, all because Jennifer had another plan…but I am glad it ended up in the mid-west. In my neck of the woods, southwest MI, we are growing through investment in the medical industry, ala Dick DeVos and family and many other generous people….Do you think she could support that? Oh heck no! Nevermind that it created jobs and brings revenue.

    Everyday I see op-eds in the newspapers about how we should be nice to Jen and cut her some slack, it was the evil Republicans that cut the SBT! Well that $900 billion shortfall was there before it, as a matter of fact she hid it during the campaign….take a look at how much the state budget allocated for advertising MI as a great place to start a business..as some of the readers here about the prime advertising slots that we paid for in AZ, CA etc…look how much is being promised to new business start-up…but Aaron can’t get benefits he rightfully deserves…

    Heck, take a look at Detroit…look at what it was and what it has become. One empty building and house after the next. Why aren’t some of those structures being condemned and then sold? Do you realize the potential for revenue/growth if the state would allow that? Do you realize that it will take away the safehavens for the gangs and drug dealers that basically are squatters on the private property?

    Are you blown away yet?

  48. KAREN
    April 12, 2007 - 09:49 PM on April 12th, 2007

    While reading the blogs that have been published I agree that taxes will need to be increased but taxes should be increased accross the board (increase the sales tax) instead of just taxing the middle class which seems to be the target to get Michigan through it’s tough times. Unfortunately our great state loses more jobs when the businesses are taxed but I am not sure how much more burden people can accept. I watch people struggle on a daily basis, some because of their mistakes but mostly because they do not make enough to support their families and continue to pay higher utilities and taxes.

    Here is one example of our wonderful welfare system. About 2 years ago my best friend was kicked out of her boyfriends home with her one month old baby. While she was pregnant (she was 38 years old) with her only child she lost her job and continued through her pregnancy with only unemployment to assist her since no one would hire her because she was pregnant. When he kicked her out of their home she came to my home to stay since she had nowhere else to go. With no job and her unemployment gone she had no money so I encouraged her to seek some assistance for the first time in her life. She went out and got the paperwork she needed to fill out and come home with a glimmer of hope that maybe she could get on her feet. She filled out all of the paperwork and turned it in. With in a couple of days she was denied all benefits because she was living in my house and I did not qualify for benefits. This saga continued for several months and even appealed their decision to no avail. However while she was trying to get assistance several migrant families would come in and would be given assistance with just about all of their needs including food, insurance, and vehicle maintanence. Talk about a slap in the face to someone who paid into the fund her whole life. Fair, I think not. She finally found a job as a waitress in a restaurant in town and I saw her go to work and make 4 dollars in tips which really did not pay for her gas to work. She eventually found and decent paying job and finally was able to move from my residence after 18 months without ever receiving any assistance for her or the baby. Something in this system needs to change. I guess I do not know how they can help some and not others.

    Times are very tough through out the state and as a State employee I have noted that nothing is being told to any employees about the status of their jobs. Our governor initiated a business process through out the state and held town hall meeting with her employee’s telling them how much she valued all of our opinions. Well she spent millions on this and has since kicked all of our opinions to the side. Inclusion………right. I go to work everyday and watch all of my fellow works who are scared of what their future holds for them and their families. I also watch them looking for other jobs outside of the state of Michigan. Michigan is slowing losing well educated and well trained workers. I would probably be right there with them however I have 12 years to retirement and could not even begin thinking about another 25 years with another department.

    I believe Michigan has a lot of potential and I enjoy living in our great state. What the solution would be, I am not sure but what has been tried is not working and the state continues to decline. Something has to change.

  49. Robert
    April 12, 2007 - 10:04 PM on April 12th, 2007

    However while she was trying to get assistance several migrant families would come in and would be given assistance with just about all of their needs including food, insurance, and vehicle maintanence.

    That’s the system all right. I was just telling someone the other say who is working and cannot afford a needed medical procedure, but doesn’t qualify for MediCal, that they need to go across the Southern border, change their name, then come back over illegally. Then they’ll get it all for free.

  50. Richard N
    April 28, 2007 - 05:52 PM on April 28th, 2007

    I think its time we start sending back the Canada Trash. We could start with Jennifer Granholm and her Half wit Hubby.

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