Which would be more damning in the eyes of American voters, a Muslim upbringing or an atheist upbringing?
H/T to Allahpundit for the link to this study:
Update: Muslim was not brought up in the survey, I brought it up due to the link I provided from AP about OBAMA’s Muslim upbringing which Fox, it appears, didn’t lie about:
Remember, his campaign previously said he’d never ever evuh been a Muslim.
Now it seems their position has evolved.
“To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago,” Gibbs’ Jan. 24 statement said. In a statement to The Times on Wednesday, the campaign offered slightly different wording, saying: “Obama has never been a practicing Muslim.” The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood’s Islamic center.
As it turns out, he did a little more than that.
The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. “We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played,” said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama’s closest childhood friends:
“His mother often went to the church, but Barry was Muslim. He went to the mosque,” Adi said. “I remember him wearing a sarong.”
His sister insists the family went to mosque only “for big communal events.” I wonder ” what do Barry’s schoolteachers think?
“At that time, Barry was also praying in a Catholic way, but Barry was Muslim,” Dharmawan said in Obama’s old [third- and fourth-grade] classroom, where she still teaches 39 years later. “He was registered as a Muslim because his father, Lolo Soetoro, was Muslim.”:
Bugs have eaten Obama’s file in the [middle] school’s archive, said Vice Principal Hardi Priyono. But two of his teachers, former Vice Principal Tine Hahiyari and third-grade teacher Effendi, said they remember clearly that at this school too, he was registered as a Muslim, which determined what class he attended during weekly religion lessons.
I’m guessing that Obama’s handlers don’t think a Muslim is electable.
March 16, 2007 - 01:24 AM on March 16th, 2007
Hm. Weird. So since I had a Christian-Catholic “upbrining”, that means I am more electable for President than the agnostic my matured and self-aware self actually is today?
March 16, 2007 - 03:27 AM on March 16th, 2007
1- The question itself is already influencing and insulting- especially being asked in a country and by people who praise freedom and the right of individuality and the free choice of belief!
Hey Peejz, what teases you more:
If I compare Mr. “let’s create a 50000 Kaffer-killing Civilwar to get rid of terror in my own country”-Bush to Adolf Hitler or rather if I compare him to Joseph Stalin?
March 16, 2007 - 06:38 AM on March 16th, 2007
2, actually calling you an idiot insults all idiots, Mattias.
Let’s compare Mattias to Chamberlain or to the whackjob in charge of Iran.
March 16, 2007 - 07:15 AM on March 16th, 2007
The first question that came to mind is if the politically correct crowd is okay with this poll? That being out of the way I personally feel that I could take any of them, female, jewish, mormon, black, whatever as long as they are qualified for the job.
As for Barack Obama, there seems to be alot of hype over him. I believe his biggest drawbacks are first that he was educated in a muslim madrasa and second that now he attends a christian church (forgot the denomination
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and this church is black and teaches blacks its okay to be racist if you are black.
Well, I have bigger issues with those two things than whether or not he fits into one of the so called categories. As for the Mormon issue, isn’t this America, freedom of religion??
March 16, 2007 - 07:34 AM on March 16th, 2007
3- The problem for me if I would like to insult you is that I still don’t know what sex you are… As a gentleman, I wouldn’t be too rude if you’re a girl…
The only thing I know is, that you are such a coward that you don’t even provide a forename so that people are able to talk to you in a normal manner… (maybe that’s the reason why you are such unrelaxed)
March 16, 2007 - 07:45 AM on March 16th, 2007
Mattias, you are “shucking and jiving”. You are the one that is confused about my sex. I never said anything about it. But to clear the matter for dysfunctionsl mind, I am male.
As for educating children, NEVER would I condone the Muslim teachings.
What are you going to do when your wife facilitates your children strapping on bombs to kill Jews?
March 16, 2007 - 07:49 AM on March 16th, 2007
1- according to those people surveyed. I asked you to respond to the question. See that is where this surveying crap falls apart…the more people asked, the less sure the results are..
March 16, 2007 - 07:57 AM on March 16th, 2007
I updated the post to show you why i asked what I did.
March 17, 2007 - 01:19 AM on March 17th, 2007
7- Peejz, I don’t think a couple of years in ones youth, before adolescence(age of self-awareness), of being exposed to one certain faith should pigeon-hole a candidate. There is no evidence that Obama was preached some warped version of Islam anyway. I tend to shake my head in sadness every time a member here condemns the Islamic faith in general because some extremists corrupt it. Shall I lump all nutjobs in with the nutjobs at Westboro Baptist Church’s beliefs/actions? Terrorism and the extremists aren’t just a handful of Muslims. Christians have done a good job right here was well (bombing abortion clinics, executing abortion doctors, blowing up a federal building, etc).
The root of most of this crap has been religion, in general. Between a Muslim and an Atheist? I’d probably take the atheist, thank you.
March 17, 2007 - 05:32 AM on March 17th, 2007
If there is nothing to be ashamed of, why the denial and now the admission? I thought Fox lied? And Wolf Blitzer said they were going to do what real journalsts do and get to the truth..they said he never attended a school that had Muslim teaching..either CNN is not capable of investigative journalism or they lied..