IRAN ‘TO TRY BRITONS FOR ESPIONAGE’
These are British soldiers that were in Iraqi waters, kidnapped by Iranians…tell me what is wrong with this picture:
FIFTEEN British sailors and marines arrested by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards off the coast of Iraq may be charged with spying.
A website run by associates of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, reported last night that the Britons would be put before a court and indicted.
Referring to them as “insurgents”, the site concluded: “If it is proven that they deliberately entered Iranian territory, they will be charged with espionage. If that is proven, they can expect a very serious penalty since according to Iranian law, espionage is one of the most serious offences.”
The warning followed claims by Iranian officials that the British navy personnel had been taken to Tehran, the capital, to explain their “aggressive action” in entering Iranian waters. British officials insist the servicemen were in Iraqi waters when they were held. The penalty for espionage in Iran is death. However, similar accusations of spying were made when eight British servicemen were detained in the same area in 2004. They were paraded blindfolded on television but did not appear in court and were freed after three nights in detention.
Does this nut really think he can get away with this? He isn’t dealing with Jimmy Carter this time!
March 25, 2007 - 09:48 PM on March 25th, 2007
If theres a iraian embassy in england i suggest they close it down and send the iranian diplomat and amabassitor back:mad:
March 26, 2007 - 07:37 AM on March 26th, 2007
Snowy, NO! The Brits ought to hold on to them until after they get their sailors and marines back. Capiche?
March 26, 2007 - 08:59 AM on March 26th, 2007
PCD, what would you thing the American government would do if we caught 15 Iranian sailers and marines “spying” on the United States, in our waters?
C’mon, lets not be one sided.
I’ve briefed through the archived posts on this site, and it is so funny how often I come across the “us and them” mentality. Their are contless posts on this site condemning those (or them) for what are perceived to be wrong doings, and praise/excuses for the same acts perpetrated by “us.”
So angry, so confused. Why?
March 26, 2007 - 09:04 AM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, idiots/liars/Al Qaeda supporters like you swallow the “They were in … waters” lie just like you did when N. Korea grabbed the USS Pueblo.
The Brits were NOT in Iranian waters until after they were grabbed and dragged into them.
Can you be a little more original than this post of yours?
March 26, 2007 - 09:15 AM on March 26th, 2007
PCD, why in the world would you consider me an Al Qaeda supporter? My lord, you are quite presumptious. That could get you into trouble one of these days, if it hasn’t already.
In regards to the issue at hand, Iran says they were in their waters, we say they weren’t. Can you not, even if just for the moment, think that they may have been in Iranian waters when captured? Oh yes, of course, you were there.
PCD, please hold your tongue when throwing such claims as “You are an Al Qaeda supporter.” This can be quite upsetting to some. In this case, my cousin (who was a stewardess for United at the time) could have been on one of the ill-fated flights. Unfortunately, her long time childhood friend who was very close to our family, was.
March 26, 2007 - 09:27 AM on March 26th, 2007
KEO,
Put the shoe on your foot. YOU prove they were in Iranian waters. The Iranians are, and continue to be, liars on the international stage.
I hope Peejz will verify you aren’t another alias of Shiloh.
In case you aren’t that idiot, it is called free speech. Something Al Qaeda supporters hate when it is used against them to expose them.
March 26, 2007 - 09:39 AM on March 26th, 2007
I pitty you PCD.
March 26, 2007 - 09:41 AM on March 26th, 2007
Ryan, stuff it. You are just another Democrat, Homosexual advocate that really doesn’t know anything beyond your perverted politics.
March 26, 2007 - 09:58 AM on March 26th, 2007
PCD, I understand our right to freedom of speech, however, in adults this should be accompanied by common courtesy. I assume you still have a few years ahead of you where this can be learned.
I bet you are not as vocal of your misguided opinions of others when not behind the safety of your computer.
March 26, 2007 - 10:05 AM on March 26th, 2007
PCD – Contrary to your rediculous perceptions:
1. I am an independant who is very fond of my beautiful country and all of its diversities.
2. I am a male who is very happily married to a female.
3. Perveted politics? Hiding inside the safety bubble in your mind, and closing out the rest of the world while condemning any other belief that may not resemble your own is quite rediculous. However, you seem to find this acceptable.
4. If Homosexual advocate means that I can live my life and die a very happy life loving individual along side of two individuals of the same sex who LOVE each other dearly, than sign me up.
PCD it is natural for us as humans to be scared of things we don’t understand. Try to understand them, you won’t be so fearful.
Now, back to you God given good ol’ male on female internet porn. Jesus would be so proud.
March 26, 2007 - 10:15 AM on March 26th, 2007
9, You lose your bet. I am and I have the slashed tires from Democrats like yourself to prove it.
Why is it that Democrats have to vandalize in the middle of the night to respond to a conservative?
Also, the Milwaukee 5 are going to jail. 2 are sons of elected Milwaukee Democrats, including US Rep. Gwen Moore’s son.
Now, KEO, if you are done dodging, obfuscating, and avoiging the question, are you going to answer or just run your keyboard troll mouth?
March 26, 2007 - 10:51 AM on March 26th, 2007
PCD, I didn’t slash your tires, nor am I a Democrat. I believe it is important to note that not all Democrats would reduce themselves to tire slashing. I also think it is important to note that there plenty Republicans who do other childish acts of vandalism.
I am sorry that your tires were slashed, however, noting your recent wildly inaccurate (and infuriating) accusations somehow I think you deserved it.
Thats the thing with freedom of speech PCD. Feel free to speak, accuse, annoy but don’t be surprised when others take their frustration with your ignorant words out on your tires.
Now, what is this question you speak of, I’d be happy to answer?
March 26, 2007 - 11:03 AM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, you asserted the Brits were in Iranian wasters. I said the Iranians have been proven to be liars and for you to prove the Brits were in Iranian waters, not international or Iraqi waters.
Also, I don’t give a flying fig what you are, except you are an irritant. YOu offer nothing, yet you demand respect you have not earned. You judge, yet do not wish to be judged. Need I tell you what that makes you?
March 26, 2007 - 11:24 AM on March 26th, 2007
YOu offer nothing, yet you demand respect you have not earned. You judge, yet do not wish to be judged. Need I tell you what that makes you?
Congratulations PCD, you’ve just accurately described the perception you give off by every rediculous comment you post.
Read number 12 again PCD. Read it again and again until it makes sense to you.
March 26, 2007 - 11:27 AM on March 26th, 2007
Thats the thing with freedom of speech PCD. Feel free to speak, accuse, annoy but don’t be surprised when others take their frustration with your ignorant words out on your tires.
I cannot stress this enough. Do not blame the consequences and reprocussions of your mindless rants on Democrats. PCD, you say very hurtful things to people, even when you are completely uneducated in the subject.
I know you are tough, and you can say whatever you want to anyone you want -DO NOT BE SUPRISED WHEN OTHERS RETALIATE.
March 26, 2007 - 11:29 AM on March 26th, 2007
I understand that you believe that there is NO WAY the Brits were in Iranian waters, because you were there.
What I am saying is that it is a possibility. Lets wait and see what we find out.
March 26, 2007 - 11:29 AM on March 26th, 2007
If they were in Iranian waters, would you be upset if Iran treated them the same way we would treat “spies” against the U.S.?
March 26, 2007 - 11:30 AM on March 26th, 2007
Us and Them mentality. Look that up PCD. You will find that you fit the bill.
March 26, 2007 - 11:35 AM on March 26th, 2007
13,14,15, KEO, thank you for proving you can’t think. Hou can only post from a Lib or AlQaeda website. In your mind all of America’s enemies are right and anything contrary is wrong.
Tell us about October Suprise. Tell us Kerry didn’t lie to Congress about Winter Soldier, about his Christmas in Cambodia. Tell us that Kennedy hasn’t contacted the KGB over the years to change US actions he disagreed with. Tell us the story about how you just wandered in here. All are lies you can’t disprove, but in your mind you are all knowing and magnificant.
KEO, you are just another terrorist supporting troll.
March 26, 2007 - 11:38 AM on March 26th, 2007
16,17, again KEO can’t admit it is wrong. KEO can’t do anything but assert that the Brits DESERVE being captured.
KEO, do you understand that the Iranian action is an act of war? That Britian has the right to attack Iran and their agents worldwide now?
No, KEO, you defend the anti-democracy, Islamofascists at every turn with just your word and nothing else.
March 26, 2007 - 11:40 AM on March 26th, 2007
Peejz, on 2nd thought, remember that jerk from Texas who made trouble here a few months ago. His MO is the same as KEO’s. How about checking if KEO is typing from the same basement as the other clown.
March 26, 2007 - 12:07 PM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, do you understand that the Iranian action is an act of war? That Britian has the right to attack Iran and their agents worldwide now?
You’re right PCD, lets start blowing up IRAN!! When you war mongering retards lose interest with that, you can blow up another country.
PCD – I wish you were an innocent civilian living in Iraq right now. I wish that you could put yourself in their shoes for one moment. Oh thats right, there are no innocent in Iraq, they’re dogs and deserve to die as such. You are a fuggin moron PCD.
I can’t wait to see the look on your face when you’re finally judged.
March 26, 2007 - 12:08 PM on March 26th, 2007
I can assure you I am no jerk from Texas.
March 26, 2007 - 12:11 PM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, you are just another terrorist supporting troll.
This from a uneducated, uncivilized, unsocialized backwoods redneck. Go drink your Budweiser and beat your wife some more.
March 26, 2007 - 12:19 PM on March 26th, 2007
21,22,23, Ah, the mask falls away. KEO, why don’t you go to Iraq or Iran and be a human shield? I know you won’t. You are all mouth and you jpoved it.
Your condesension does not win anything except contempt. Oh, don’t be surprised if someone belts you in the mouth for the crap you spew, or are you one of the lib cowards that FAO encountered that can’t express themselves unless they are 15 to 1 and approching the one from behind.
Oh,KEO, for your information, it is the Muslims who think that Mohammad told them that Allah said they not only could, but should beat their wives to keep them in line.
KEO, you are a self-important jerk. You haven’t engaged in ANY reasoning, You only pontificated and demanded we accept your pontifications as gospel. It don’t work that way Al Qaeda lover.
March 26, 2007 - 12:20 PM on March 26th, 2007
19- “act of war”?
At 3 am on Jan 11 this year, US military forces launched a sudden raid on the Iranian liaison office in the Kurdish capital Arbil and detained five Iranian officials who are still prisoners.
It’s tit-for-tat. “prove” to me those 5 Iranians are guilty of anything.
March 26, 2007 - 12:26 PM on March 26th, 2007
25, TT, your butt buddy proved nothing, so you are taking up the terror-state position? No wonder you think people are out to beat you up. You run down the US at every opportunity. Why don’t you move to Iran if you love it so much?
Also, TT, explain how detaining covert terrorists from Iran is the same as kidnapping these Brits out of Iranian territory?
March 26, 2007 - 12:34 PM on March 26th, 2007
“Butt buddy” PCD, what’re you a 15 schoolgirl?
Also, TT, explain how detaining covert terrorists from Iran is the same as kidnapping these Brits out of Iranian territory? -Again, more Us and Them mentality.
PCD, the gays are out to get you! They’re coming to ruin your sanctity of marriage!
March 26, 2007 - 12:38 PM on March 26th, 2007
Oh,KEO, for your information, it is the Muslims who think that Mohammad told them that Allah said they not only could, but should beat their wives to keep them in line.
For your information, it was GOD HIMSELF who instructed Abraham to MURDER his own child (wo prove his loyalty).
You see PCD, it works both ways. US AND THEM -Look it up. It’s you baby.
March 26, 2007 - 12:40 PM on March 26th, 2007
27, KEO, now that you’ve been exposed and smacked down, what are you still here for? You did nothing to show that you are intelligent, that you can debate, that you even know what a fact is. Your speculation is not a fact and will not be treated so in a debate.
March 26, 2007 - 12:42 PM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, why don’t you go to Iraq or Iran and be a human shield? I know you won’t.
Because PCD, I feel I have more to offer this race than my flesh and blood. Maybe I am here to help you realize the error of your war mongering, rediculously inolerant ways. Look through history PCD, YOU are the cause of segregation. YOU are the reason for intolerance. YOU are the reason some are afraid to live life the way they see fit. YOU ARE THE REASON!
March 26, 2007 - 12:43 PM on March 26th, 2007
28, KEO, so you are a judaism/christian hater. You really sound like shitto now.
You demonstrated all the understanding of a test of a mortal by a deity that you demostrated your lack of debate skills and inability to distinguish your own opinion from hart fact.
KEO, you are a liberal loser.
March 26, 2007 - 12:43 PM on March 26th, 2007
27, KEO, now that you’ve been exposed and smacked down
Pardon my confusion PCD, explain to me how I’ve been exposed or smacked down? If you are referencing your barage of childish comments, then you are quite mistaken my friend.
March 26, 2007 - 12:45 PM on March 26th, 2007
28, KEO, so you are a judaism/christian hater. You really sound like shitto now. I am afraid you are mistaken. I am, however, fearful of religious fanatics from any spectrum.
March 26, 2007 - 12:46 PM on March 26th, 2007
30, KEO, so you are a homosexual loser who resents force being used by the US no matter how justified, but you condone force used by terrorists. Do you hate your local cop when he busts your drug supplier? Do you only love authorities who violate the law to provide you with Gay Marriage?
Come clean, KEO. Tell us what kind of America hating pervert you are.
March 26, 2007 - 12:50 PM on March 26th, 2007
You demonstrated all the understanding of a test of a mortal by a deity that you demostrated your lack of debate skills and inability to distinguish your own opinion from hart fact.
I am not sure of what you are attempting to say in these jumbled words. However, I will give it a stab.
Yes, I feel that the idea of the creator of all things, toying with one of his creations like an intrigued child is quite far fetched. Not to mention the fact that this ALL LOVING and KIND God would “test” one of his devout followers with the instruction of murder.
Tell me again how your point makes sense?
March 26, 2007 - 12:54 PM on March 26th, 2007
PCD, try very hard to take this in.
1. I am a proud American.
2. I am a straight, married American. Not homosexual.
3. I’ve never condone any acts of terrorism, though I would be appreciative if you could remind me of any occassion that I may have.
4. I do not bicker about force used by US when NECESSARY, such as WWII. We were a bit late, but we made it.
I will tell you PCD, that unlike you, I am not bothered by the display of love and affection by means of marriage by two people of the same sex.
I implore you to give me one GOOD example of how gay marriage would directly, and negatively affect your everyday life. -Or would it simply undermine one of your many awkward beliefs?
March 26, 2007 - 12:55 PM on March 26th, 2007
35, My point is that you are an arrogant ass who thinks he is God. You think your condesension is a trumping argument. YOu think your opinion is fact no matter how you are proven wrong or shown that you have proven NOTHING!
Just because you are homosexual advocate doesn’t mean any points for you here. You are the dumbass who sits in his basement trying to dictate to the world and throws an immature temper tantrum in reponse to not getting your way.
What are you going to try to pontificate next? That NAMBLA members have a right to molest children and babies?
March 26, 2007 - 01:00 PM on March 26th, 2007
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears.
Marriage ia between a man and a woman. It is an institution to facilitate procreation and the raising/nurturing children. Only fools like you who think they know everything think that there are equivalents to true marriage.
Keo, you are an sophmoric idiot. You know nothing, but pontificate like you know everything.
Again, there is not one post were you would even admit that the Brits were not in Iranian waters. YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH.
March 26, 2007 - 01:08 PM on March 26th, 2007
You are the dumbass who sits in his basement trying to dictate to the world and throws an immature temper tantrum in reponse to not getting your way.
1.you are a dysfunctional liberal
2.you are an sophmoric idiot
3.That NAMBLA members have a right to molest children and babies?
4.you are a homosexual loser
5.you are a judaism/christian hater
Who’s throwing a temper tantrum PCD? Who’s comments do you think these are numbered above?
You are quite an interesting individual PCD.
March 26, 2007 - 01:09 PM on March 26th, 2007
Marriage ia between a man and a woman. It is an institution to facilitate procreation and the raising/nurturing children. Only fools like you who think they know everything think that there are equivalents to true marriage.
Yes, and blacks used to be slaves. My point PCD, is that rediculous notions change.
You have yet to give me ONE GOOD EXAMPLE of how gay marriage would directly affect YOUR life. I’m waiting, of prophetor of all great knowledge.
March 26, 2007 - 01:11 PM on March 26th, 2007
Again, there is not one post were you would even admit that the Brits were not in Iranian waters. YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH.
Lets look at this as a third party (you should try sometimes).
Iran says Brits were in Iranian waters.
Brits say they were in international waters.
This is a he said, she said game at this point. One or the other could be lying. What I am saying is, before we jump to conclusions, lets find out what REALLY happened.
Afterall, the Brits DO have a reason for being in Iranian waters, and that would be to spy on a very dangerous country. Would you not agree?
March 26, 2007 - 01:13 PM on March 26th, 2007
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears
Again, PCD, I implore you to look back at YOUR archived posts and REALIZE that what you’ve explained above is YOU. If you really cannot see that, you are incredibly hopeless.
Am I wrong? Man up and answer this question accurately.
March 26, 2007 - 01:14 PM on March 26th, 2007
YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH
PCD, the truth has yet to be discovered. THIS IS MY POINT!!!!!!
March 26, 2007 - 01:23 PM on March 26th, 2007
KEO, You are the knownothing idiot. All naval commanders must know where they and their crew are PRECISELY. I can argue with you all day, but your are the fool who are taking know liars’ word for their actions. Did you note that the Iranians did this previously? Did you also note that before any claims of violating their soverignity was made, Iran was making statements for trading these men for their captured Revolutionary Guards? DID YOU, FOOL???
Again, you take the anti-US, anti-democracy position as gospel. You are such a dolt you can’t begin to factor past truth to these nations’ statements. No you have to dance in “he said, she said”, call warmonger, and other pansy proclaimations.
You have to cornered to answer a direct question. Even then you have to obfuscate, bting in other issues to cover that you know nothing, but are a pompous ass pontificating.
Now go adhieve something the Gay community aspires to. GFY.
March 26, 2007 - 01:31 PM on March 26th, 2007
You have to cornered to answer a direct question.
Thats funny PCD, I’ve asked you a few direct questions which you’ve seemed to ignore completely. Ever heard the phrase “Pot called the kettle black.”
March 26, 2007 - 01:35 PM on March 26th, 2007
While your questions are all rhetorical, I will entertain you with the answers:
1. Did you note that the Iranians did this previously? -Nope.
2. Did you also note that before any claims of violating their soverignity was made, Iran was making statements for trading these men for their captured Revolutionary Guards? – Nope
What you FAIL to capture is that my point is simply (ready PCD) YOU DON’T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT BRITS WERE IN IRANIAN WATERS, WHAT YOU DO KNOW IS WHAT YOU’VE BEEN TOLD.
Bahhh bahhhh PCD. Blindly follow your sheapherd.
March 26, 2007 - 01:37 PM on March 26th, 2007
Now go adhieve something the Gay community aspires to
I am starting to wonder if can make any argument without sounding like an uneducated, backwoods redneck.
March 26, 2007 - 01:39 PM on March 26th, 2007
I’ll try this one more time PCD, and I don’t want any of your cronies to answer for you.
Now that I’ve “cornered” you:
1. How would gay marriage directly affect your everyday life?
Whats this about fleeing from direct questions?????
March 26, 2007 - 01:40 PM on March 26th, 2007
DID YOU NOT READ THIS PCD?
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears
Again, PCD, I implore you to look back at YOUR archived posts and REALIZE that what you’ve explained above is YOU. If you really cannot see that, you are incredibly hopeless.
Am I wrong? Man up and answer this question accurately.
March 26, 2007 - 01:46 PM on March 26th, 2007
PCD why don’t you chill? All KEO did was question whether those Brits might have been in Iranian waters and you went off like a rocket! Out of that somehow KEO is al Al Qaeda supporter, a homosexual, a liberal, a Democrat, etc.
You can tell all that? Amazing!
The problem is the issue quickly degraded into a name-calling one-sided fist fight. Where is the debate?
Now the presumption can legitimately be that the Iranians are lying, because they have pulled this crap before (2004). And we know what kind of operation President Iminajihad is running. But let them make their case. Let the Brits make their case. Then we can all decide. Ok?
March 26, 2007 - 01:54 PM on March 26th, 2007
50, Who the hell are you sock puppet? If you looked closely, KEO refused to believe that the Brits were telling the truth and the Iranians lying. Drudge has a link up saying that the Iranians ordered the kidnapping as revenge, Will KEO acknowledge that is more than a possibility? NO
March 26, 2007 - 01:58 PM on March 26th, 2007
47,48,49, GFY, KEO! What is your history here? You pontificate that the Iranians are the injured party and you entertain no rebuttal. That is the truth as amply demonstrated by this thread. You brought out the attempts to distract from that point and you now are further trying to do so.
Also, you are the one with cronies, or are they sock puppets? Maybe Peejz will chime in with the report if you are separate visitors or the same person just changing names.
March 26, 2007 - 02:29 PM on March 26th, 2007
If you looked closely, KEO refused to believe that the Brits were telling the truth and the Iranians lying.
Actually PCD, if you look back, you will see that Online Therapist is right. I am only suggesting that we wait till the truth has made itself known, then make our decision. I will help you recall, by reposting my point:
Lets look at this as a third party (you should try sometimes).
Iran says Brits were in Iranian waters.
Brits say they were in international waters.
This is a he said, she said game at this point. One or the other could be lying. What I am saying is, before we jump to conclusions, lets find out what REALLY happened.
Now PCD, how is 51. make any sense?
March 26, 2007 - 02:31 PM on March 26th, 2007
Drudge has a link up saying that the Iranians ordered the kidnapping as revenge, Will KEO acknowledge that is more than a possibility? NO
YES PCD, THIS HAS BEEN MY POINT THE WHOLE TIME. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH.
My god. Stop attacking for one second, and LISTEN to an opposing opinion.
March 26, 2007 - 02:32 PM on March 26th, 2007
Also, you are the one with cronies, or are they sock puppets? Maybe Peejz will chime in with the report if you are separate visitors or the same person just changing names.
My guess is not, considering we are different people.
March 26, 2007 - 02:34 PM on March 26th, 2007
47,48,49, GFY, KEO! What is your history here?
Your history is what is under question PCD. If you look back at it, through archived files, you will find that all you have to offer is elementary name calling.
Don’t believe me, look for yourself. If you continue to argue this point, I’ll start posting examples.
March 26, 2007 - 02:35 PM on March 26th, 2007
Also, you are the one with cronies, or are they sock puppets?
No PCD, these are just individuals unrelated in any way who see a pattern with your posts. They only consist of unjust name calling, and HUGE leaps to conclusion on your part.
March 26, 2007 - 02:36 PM on March 26th, 2007
Again, PCD, I implore you to look back at YOUR archived posts and REALIZE that what you’ve explained above is YOU.
March 26, 2007 - 02:39 PM on March 26th, 2007
The perception of charactor that you’ve created for yourself is that of a close minded and bitter old man with nothing more to offer the world than name calling and personal attacks when you see fit.
I am sorry to say this PCD, although it is true.
March 26, 2007 - 02:44 PM on March 26th, 2007
I am not KEO or his sock puppet, just a surfer who came across this site and topic and am posting my opinion on what I see here.
PCD you can not only not tolerate disagreement, you cannot even tolerate someone posing a legitimate question, ie, were the Brits in Iranian waters or not? What about that question is not legitimate?
If I were the owner of this site I would consider banning you until you have an epiphany. Your style does not contribute to the quality of this site. The idea is for people to want to come here and post. If you run everyone off because they see very quickly that no debate is possible, and lose interest, it hurts business, and ultimately that is what this is about for the owner.
March 26, 2007 - 03:09 PM on March 26th, 2007
Ok, back in the sock drawer with you.
March 26, 2007 - 03:31 PM on March 26th, 2007
26 -”Also, TT, explain how detaining covert terrorists from Iran is the same as kidnapping these Brits out of Iranian territory?”
The point was, we don’t KNOW if they were “convert terrorists”. The US makes that claim without providing evidence, and in doing so is no different than Iran arresting those British military personnel for “spying”.
March 26, 2007 - 03:37 PM on March 26th, 2007
Okay puppets, fall back, we’re dismissed for the time being. We’ve done our work; it’s break time.
March 26, 2007 - 03:44 PM on March 26th, 2007
The point was, we don’t KNOW if they were “convert terroristsâ€. The US makes that claim without providing evidence,
IMHO, this is the reason SOOOOOO many Americans do not trust The Bush Administration.
BTW, those 5 Iranian “covert terrorists” were released as THERE WAS NO SMOKING GUN.
March 26, 2007 - 03:53 PM on March 26th, 2007
64- “those 5 Iranian “covert terrorists”were released”
I have not heard that. They were still being held by the US as of yesterday, and their status is unknown.
March 26, 2007 - 03:54 PM on March 26th, 2007
Perhaps I was mistaken. I got something from BBC. I’ll be right back with you.
Thanks for catching!
March 26, 2007 - 03:57 PM on March 26th, 2007
Sorry, wrong 5 Iranians. Didn’t notice the date when attempting to update myself on the story.
This is the link I mistook as the current situation:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6232735.stm
Again, my apologies.
March 26, 2007 - 04:07 PM on March 26th, 2007
67- No problem, it’s sometimes hard to keep all of this crap straight.
btw, ignore PCD’s insulting ranting! Just a word of advice from one of your terror-state loving butt-buddies who runs down the US at every opportunity and probably should move to Iran because I love it so much.
March 26, 2007 - 05:10 PM on March 26th, 2007
btw, ignore PCD’s insulting ranting! Just a word of advice from one of your terror-state loving butt-buddies who runs down the US at every opportunity and probably should move to Iran because I love it so much.
Thanks TT, I really needed that!
As much as I’ve trained myself through the years, I have to admit that I do fall victim to the irrational at times. Yet another life lesson. -Don’t end up like PCD!
March 26, 2007 - 08:57 PM on March 26th, 2007
Well the US has evidence of Iranian operatives in Iraq providing technical and material support to the terrorists in Iraq. Even one of the Main stream media outlets reported that IED components had been traced back to Iran. The fact that the British sailors and marines wer in Iraqi waters with Iraqi permission has been confirmed by the Iraqi government. What I find more troubling is the fact that the British warship that these sailors and marines were stationed on was not allowed to fire on the Iranian ships despite outgunning them by a substantial margin. A historical example of Iran violating international laws concerning international waters would be their attempt to mine the Persian Gulf in order to disrupt the oil flow through it in the mid to late 80s. The US Navy sent them running for Iranian waters the first time they caught the Iranians mining operation, and shot it full of holes the second time. There was no third attempt. Dictators and thugs understand nothing better than the use of force, and frequently little else. While the entire pacifist/ anti war movement may seem so utopian, it simply isn’t practical to believe that just because you lay down and roll over, the bad guys aren’t going to keep kicking you. I haven’t been in very many fights. I was raised to not start fights, but when one is forced on you to finish it. I’ve never had to fight the same person twice. I’ve never had to hurt anyone, but I’ve let them know that if they started another fight with me, I would put them into either a cast or a casket. With the way that almost all of my fights have ended, they knew it wasn’t an idle threat.
We are in a fight in the middle east, we need to finish it. If we walk away like we did in Somalia, we’ll have them knocking on our door again. It’s really sad that the Ethiopian Army managed to overrun the Muslim extremists in Somalia and chase them out of the country. Of course that’s what happens when you don’t have a political party trying to undermine your military and intelligence communities by passing classified information to the enemy and actively working to hamstring the troops in their efforts with idiotic Politically correct combat restrictions.
Please do some research with experts on radical Islam and international terrorism. Don’t believe what the Dems are saying about if we leave they won’t attack us again. That is NOT what the experts are saying.
March 26, 2007 - 09:26 PM on March 26th, 2007
the entire pacifist/ anti war movement may seem so utopian, it simply isn’t practical to believe that just because you lay down and roll over, the bad guys aren’t going to keep kicking you.
We are in a fight in the middle east, we need to finish it. If we walk away like we did in Somalia, we’ll have them knocking on our door again.
For the record, I have no idea how we are going to clean up this mess called Operation Iraqi Freedom. I will, however, suggest that we somehow set aside our difference and work out a plan, and REAL SOON!!!
Further, I do not believe that, if asked, the vast majority of Iraqi citizens would be pleased with our decision to “free them.” Not for one minute.
a political party trying to undermine your military and intelligence communities by passing classified information to the enemy and actively working to hamstring the troops in their efforts with idiotic Politically correct combat restrictions.
This I agree with comletely. Although, I hope that your not accusing any American political party of purposely sharing military inteligence with the enemy. The closest thing to that notion was Geraldo’s news coverage during the initial “exciting” stages of the war.
We have drastically contributed to the unrest in the Middle East. My only hope is that we can solve this problem before it devours us whole.
March 27, 2007 - 06:39 AM on March 27th, 2007
71-The unrest in the ME? What drugs are you smoking? When has there been sustained peace in that region of the world? Every agreement made in the last 30 years has been broken before the hands were shook…please! Maybe it is time for you to actually research the subject.
March 27, 2007 - 07:00 AM on March 27th, 2007
71, KEO, you are uninformed, yet pontificate authoritively. You dismiss data you don’t already have and when presented with data you don’t have, you do not pause to assimilate it. That makes you an a**hole and not worth dealing with.
March 27, 2007 - 08:20 PM on March 27th, 2007
Well, KEO the Democratic party has on multiple occasions been supplying information through the NYT to the enemy in the form of leaks. Not to mention Senator Rocekfeller going to the middle east and telling the Syrian and other governments that plans were being made to invade Iraq months before the actual invasion.
Other than McCain, the people making the big stink about wanting to give illegal nonuniformed combatants access to US courts and demanding that they not be strenously interrogated have not been Republicans.
With the Kurds and the Shia being the majority of the population of Iraq versus the minority Sunnis, they would would probably be happy to not be constantly living in fear of their lives from the Sunni run government of their country.
We do both agree that we have to fix Iraq. The difference is that I know that any attempt at negotiations will fail if they are not backed up with the threat of overwhelming military force. I also feel that as the situation continues to stabilize, the Iraqi citizenry will be more forthcoming in helping. Of course, the fact that millions of them turned out to vote on multiple occasions despite death threats may indicate that they are getting the idea that we are there to help them. There is also the fact that tipline calls have been growing exponentially.
April 9, 2007 - 06:52 PM on April 9th, 2007
Britons confess to spying, shown in this clip:
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April 9, 2007 - 07:08 PM on April 9th, 2007
The Brits were “spying”?
News Flash: EVERYone gathers intelligence all the time. The issue is whether the Brits were in Iranian waters. What they were doing is immaterial.
And they were not in Iranian waters.
“The Science is in, the debate is over!”
April 9, 2007 - 09:50 PM on April 9th, 2007
Tim, another idiot Kos puke who knows nothing, but swallows everthing put out by the enemies of the US. Well Tim, that makes you an America Hater.