These are British soldiers that were in Iraqi waters, kidnapped by Iranians…tell me what is wrong with this picture:
FIFTEEN British sailors and marines arrested by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards off the coast of Iraq may be charged with spying.
A website run by associates of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, reported last night that the Britons would be put before a court and indicted.
Referring to them as “insurgents”, the site concluded: “If it is proven that they deliberately entered Iranian territory, they will be charged with espionage. If that is proven, they can expect a very serious penalty since according to Iranian law, espionage is one of the most serious offences.”
The warning followed claims by Iranian officials that the British navy personnel had been taken to Tehran, the capital, to explain their “aggressive action” in entering Iranian waters. British officials insist the servicemen were in Iraqi waters when they were held. The penalty for espionage in Iran is death. However, similar accusations of spying were made when eight British servicemen were detained in the same area in 2004. They were paraded blindfolded on television but did not appear in court and were freed after three nights in detention.
Does this nut really think he can get away with this? He isn’t dealing with Jimmy Carter this time!
If theres a iraian embassy in england i suggest they close it down and send the iranian diplomat and amabassitor back:mad:
Snowy, NO! The Brits ought to hold on to them until after they get their sailors and marines back. Capiche?
PCD, what would you thing the American government would do if we caught 15 Iranian sailers and marines “spying” on the United States, in our waters?
C’mon, lets not be one sided.
I’ve briefed through the archived posts on this site, and it is so funny how often I come across the “us and them” mentality. Their are contless posts on this site condemning those (or them) for what are perceived to be wrong doings, and praise/excuses for the same acts perpetrated by “us.”
So angry, so confused. Why?
KEO, idiots/liars/Al Qaeda supporters like you swallow the “They were in … waters” lie just like you did when N. Korea grabbed the USS Pueblo.
The Brits were NOT in Iranian waters until after they were grabbed and dragged into them.
Can you be a little more original than this post of yours?
PCD, why in the world would you consider me an Al Qaeda supporter? My lord, you are quite presumptious. That could get you into trouble one of these days, if it hasn’t already.
In regards to the issue at hand, Iran says they were in their waters, we say they weren’t. Can you not, even if just for the moment, think that they may have been in Iranian waters when captured? Oh yes, of course, you were there.
PCD, please hold your tongue when throwing such claims as “You are an Al Qaeda supporter.” This can be quite upsetting to some. In this case, my cousin (who was a stewardess for United at the time) could have been on one of the ill-fated flights. Unfortunately, her long time childhood friend who was very close to our family, was.
KEO,
Put the shoe on your foot. YOU prove they were in Iranian waters. The Iranians are, and continue to be, liars on the international stage.
I hope Peejz will verify you aren’t another alias of Shiloh.
In case you aren’t that idiot, it is called free speech. Something Al Qaeda supporters hate when it is used against them to expose them.
I pitty you PCD.
Ryan, stuff it. You are just another Democrat, Homosexual advocate that really doesn’t know anything beyond your perverted politics.
PCD, I understand our right to freedom of speech, however, in adults this should be accompanied by common courtesy. I assume you still have a few years ahead of you where this can be learned.
I bet you are not as vocal of your misguided opinions of others when not behind the safety of your computer.
PCD – Contrary to your rediculous perceptions:
1. I am an independant who is very fond of my beautiful country and all of its diversities.
2. I am a male who is very happily married to a female.
3. Perveted politics? Hiding inside the safety bubble in your mind, and closing out the rest of the world while condemning any other belief that may not resemble your own is quite rediculous. However, you seem to find this acceptable.
4. If Homosexual advocate means that I can live my life and die a very happy life loving individual along side of two individuals of the same sex who LOVE each other dearly, than sign me up.
PCD it is natural for us as humans to be scared of things we don’t understand. Try to understand them, you won’t be so fearful.
Now, back to you God given good ol’ male on female internet porn. Jesus would be so proud.
9, You lose your bet. I am and I have the slashed tires from Democrats like yourself to prove it.
Why is it that Democrats have to vandalize in the middle of the night to respond to a conservative?
Also, the Milwaukee 5 are going to jail. 2 are sons of elected Milwaukee Democrats, including US Rep. Gwen Moore’s son.
Now, KEO, if you are done dodging, obfuscating, and avoiging the question, are you going to answer or just run your keyboard troll mouth?
PCD, I didn’t slash your tires, nor am I a Democrat. I believe it is important to note that not all Democrats would reduce themselves to tire slashing. I also think it is important to note that there plenty Republicans who do other childish acts of vandalism.
I am sorry that your tires were slashed, however, noting your recent wildly inaccurate (and infuriating) accusations somehow I think you deserved it.
Thats the thing with freedom of speech PCD. Feel free to speak, accuse, annoy but don’t be surprised when others take their frustration with your ignorant words out on your tires.
Now, what is this question you speak of, I’d be happy to answer?
KEO, you asserted the Brits were in Iranian wasters. I said the Iranians have been proven to be liars and for you to prove the Brits were in Iranian waters, not international or Iraqi waters.
Also, I don’t give a flying fig what you are, except you are an irritant. YOu offer nothing, yet you demand respect you have not earned. You judge, yet do not wish to be judged. Need I tell you what that makes you?
YOu offer nothing, yet you demand respect you have not earned. You judge, yet do not wish to be judged. Need I tell you what that makes you?
Congratulations PCD, you’ve just accurately described the perception you give off by every rediculous comment you post.
Read number 12 again PCD. Read it again and again until it makes sense to you.
Thats the thing with freedom of speech PCD. Feel free to speak, accuse, annoy but don’t be surprised when others take their frustration with your ignorant words out on your tires.
I cannot stress this enough. Do not blame the consequences and reprocussions of your mindless rants on Democrats. PCD, you say very hurtful things to people, even when you are completely uneducated in the subject.
I know you are tough, and you can say whatever you want to anyone you want -DO NOT BE SUPRISED WHEN OTHERS RETALIATE.
I understand that you believe that there is NO WAY the Brits were in Iranian waters, because you were there.
What I am saying is that it is a possibility. Lets wait and see what we find out.
If they were in Iranian waters, would you be upset if Iran treated them the same way we would treat “spies” against the U.S.?
Us and Them mentality. Look that up PCD. You will find that you fit the bill.
13,14,15, KEO, thank you for proving you can’t think. Hou can only post from a Lib or AlQaeda website. In your mind all of America’s enemies are right and anything contrary is wrong.
Tell us about October Suprise. Tell us Kerry didn’t lie to Congress about Winter Soldier, about his Christmas in Cambodia. Tell us that Kennedy hasn’t contacted the KGB over the years to change US actions he disagreed with. Tell us the story about how you just wandered in here. All are lies you can’t disprove, but in your mind you are all knowing and magnificant.
KEO, you are just another terrorist supporting troll.
16,17, again KEO can’t admit it is wrong. KEO can’t do anything but assert that the Brits DESERVE being captured.
KEO, do you understand that the Iranian action is an act of war? That Britian has the right to attack Iran and their agents worldwide now?
No, KEO, you defend the anti-democracy, Islamofascists at every turn with just your word and nothing else.
Peejz, on 2nd thought, remember that jerk from Texas who made trouble here a few months ago. His MO is the same as KEO’s. How about checking if KEO is typing from the same basement as the other clown.
KEO, do you understand that the Iranian action is an act of war? That Britian has the right to attack Iran and their agents worldwide now?
You’re right PCD, lets start blowing up IRAN!! When you war mongering retards lose interest with that, you can blow up another country.
PCD – I wish you were an innocent civilian living in Iraq right now. I wish that you could put yourself in their shoes for one moment. Oh thats right, there are no innocent in Iraq, they’re dogs and deserve to die as such. You are a fuggin moron PCD.
I can’t wait to see the look on your face when you’re finally judged.
I can assure you I am no jerk from Texas.
KEO, you are just another terrorist supporting troll.
This from a uneducated, uncivilized, unsocialized backwoods redneck. Go drink your Budweiser and beat your wife some more.
21,22,23, Ah, the mask falls away. KEO, why don’t you go to Iraq or Iran and be a human shield? I know you won’t. You are all mouth and you jpoved it.
Your condesension does not win anything except contempt. Oh, don’t be surprised if someone belts you in the mouth for the crap you spew, or are you one of the lib cowards that FAO encountered that can’t express themselves unless they are 15 to 1 and approching the one from behind.
Oh,KEO, for your information, it is the Muslims who think that Mohammad told them that Allah said they not only could, but should beat their wives to keep them in line.
KEO, you are a self-important jerk. You haven’t engaged in ANY reasoning, You only pontificated and demanded we accept your pontifications as gospel. It don’t work that way Al Qaeda lover.
19- “act of war”?
At 3 am on Jan 11 this year, US military forces launched a sudden raid on the Iranian liaison office in the Kurdish capital Arbil and detained five Iranian officials who are still prisoners.
It’s tit-for-tat. “prove” to me those 5 Iranians are guilty of anything.
25, TT, your butt buddy proved nothing, so you are taking up the terror-state position? No wonder you think people are out to beat you up. You run down the US at every opportunity. Why don’t you move to Iran if you love it so much?
Also, TT, explain how detaining covert terrorists from Iran is the same as kidnapping these Brits out of Iranian territory?
“Butt buddy” PCD, what’re you a 15 schoolgirl?
Also, TT, explain how detaining covert terrorists from Iran is the same as kidnapping these Brits out of Iranian territory? -Again, more Us and Them mentality.
PCD, the gays are out to get you! They’re coming to ruin your sanctity of marriage!
Oh,KEO, for your information, it is the Muslims who think that Mohammad told them that Allah said they not only could, but should beat their wives to keep them in line.
For your information, it was GOD HIMSELF who instructed Abraham to MURDER his own child (wo prove his loyalty).
You see PCD, it works both ways. US AND THEM -Look it up. It’s you baby.
27, KEO, now that you’ve been exposed and smacked down, what are you still here for? You did nothing to show that you are intelligent, that you can debate, that you even know what a fact is. Your speculation is not a fact and will not be treated so in a debate.
KEO, why don’t you go to Iraq or Iran and be a human shield? I know you won’t.
Because PCD, I feel I have more to offer this race than my flesh and blood. Maybe I am here to help you realize the error of your war mongering, rediculously inolerant ways. Look through history PCD, YOU are the cause of segregation. YOU are the reason for intolerance. YOU are the reason some are afraid to live life the way they see fit. YOU ARE THE REASON!
28, KEO, so you are a judaism/christian hater. You really sound like shitto now.
You demonstrated all the understanding of a test of a mortal by a deity that you demostrated your lack of debate skills and inability to distinguish your own opinion from hart fact.
KEO, you are a liberal loser.
27, KEO, now that you’ve been exposed and smacked down
Pardon my confusion PCD, explain to me how I’ve been exposed or smacked down? If you are referencing your barage of childish comments, then you are quite mistaken my friend.
28, KEO, so you are a judaism/christian hater. You really sound like shitto now. I am afraid you are mistaken. I am, however, fearful of religious fanatics from any spectrum.
30, KEO, so you are a homosexual loser who resents force being used by the US no matter how justified, but you condone force used by terrorists. Do you hate your local cop when he busts your drug supplier? Do you only love authorities who violate the law to provide you with Gay Marriage?
Come clean, KEO. Tell us what kind of America hating pervert you are.
You demonstrated all the understanding of a test of a mortal by a deity that you demostrated your lack of debate skills and inability to distinguish your own opinion from hart fact.
I am not sure of what you are attempting to say in these jumbled words. However, I will give it a stab.
Yes, I feel that the idea of the creator of all things, toying with one of his creations like an intrigued child is quite far fetched. Not to mention the fact that this ALL LOVING and KIND God would “test” one of his devout followers with the instruction of murder.
Tell me again how your point makes sense?
PCD, try very hard to take this in.
1. I am a proud American.
2. I am a straight, married American. Not homosexual.
3. I’ve never condone any acts of terrorism, though I would be appreciative if you could remind me of any occassion that I may have.
4. I do not bicker about force used by US when NECESSARY, such as WWII. We were a bit late, but we made it.
I will tell you PCD, that unlike you, I am not bothered by the display of love and affection by means of marriage by two people of the same sex.
I implore you to give me one GOOD example of how gay marriage would directly, and negatively affect your everyday life. -Or would it simply undermine one of your many awkward beliefs?
35, My point is that you are an arrogant ass who thinks he is God. You think your condesension is a trumping argument. YOu think your opinion is fact no matter how you are proven wrong or shown that you have proven NOTHING!
Just because you are homosexual advocate doesn’t mean any points for you here. You are the dumbass who sits in his basement trying to dictate to the world and throws an immature temper tantrum in reponse to not getting your way.
What are you going to try to pontificate next? That NAMBLA members have a right to molest children and babies?
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears.
Marriage ia between a man and a woman. It is an institution to facilitate procreation and the raising/nurturing children. Only fools like you who think they know everything think that there are equivalents to true marriage.
Keo, you are an sophmoric idiot. You know nothing, but pontificate like you know everything.
Again, there is not one post were you would even admit that the Brits were not in Iranian waters. YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH.
You are the dumbass who sits in his basement trying to dictate to the world and throws an immature temper tantrum in reponse to not getting your way.
1.you are a dysfunctional liberal
2.you are an sophmoric idiot
3.That NAMBLA members have a right to molest children and babies?
4.you are a homosexual loser
5.you are a judaism/christian hater
Who’s throwing a temper tantrum PCD? Who’s comments do you think these are numbered above?
You are quite an interesting individual PCD.
Marriage ia between a man and a woman. It is an institution to facilitate procreation and the raising/nurturing children. Only fools like you who think they know everything think that there are equivalents to true marriage.
Yes, and blacks used to be slaves. My point PCD, is that rediculous notions change.
You have yet to give me ONE GOOD EXAMPLE of how gay marriage would directly affect YOUR life. I’m waiting, of prophetor of all great knowledge.
Again, there is not one post were you would even admit that the Brits were not in Iranian waters. YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH.
Lets look at this as a third party (you should try sometimes).
Iran says Brits were in Iranian waters.
Brits say they were in international waters.
This is a he said, she said game at this point. One or the other could be lying. What I am saying is, before we jump to conclusions, lets find out what REALLY happened.
Afterall, the Brits DO have a reason for being in Iranian waters, and that would be to spy on a very dangerous country. Would you not agree?
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears
Again, PCD, I implore you to look back at YOUR archived posts and REALIZE that what you’ve explained above is YOU. If you really cannot see that, you are incredibly hopeless.
Am I wrong? Man up and answer this question accurately.
YOU CAN’T ADMIT THE TRUTH
PCD, the truth has yet to be discovered. THIS IS MY POINT!!!!!!
KEO, You are the knownothing idiot. All naval commanders must know where they and their crew are PRECISELY. I can argue with you all day, but your are the fool who are taking know liars’ word for their actions. Did you note that the Iranians did this previously? Did you also note that before any claims of violating their soverignity was made, Iran was making statements for trading these men for their captured Revolutionary Guards? DID YOU, FOOL???
Again, you take the anti-US, anti-democracy position as gospel. You are such a dolt you can’t begin to factor past truth to these nations’ statements. No you have to dance in “he said, she said”, call warmonger, and other pansy proclaimations.
You have to cornered to answer a direct question. Even then you have to obfuscate, bting in other issues to cover that you know nothing, but are a pompous ass pontificating.
Now go adhieve something the Gay community aspires to. GFY.
You have to cornered to answer a direct question.
Thats funny PCD, I’ve asked you a few direct questions which you’ve seemed to ignore completely. Ever heard the phrase “Pot called the kettle black.”
While your questions are all rhetorical, I will entertain you with the answers:
1. Did you note that the Iranians did this previously? -Nope.
2. Did you also note that before any claims of violating their soverignity was made, Iran was making statements for trading these men for their captured Revolutionary Guards? – Nope
What you FAIL to capture is that my point is simply (ready PCD) YOU DON’T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT BRITS WERE IN IRANIAN WATERS, WHAT YOU DO KNOW IS WHAT YOU’VE BEEN TOLD.
Bahhh bahhhh PCD. Blindly follow your sheapherd.
Now go adhieve something the Gay community aspires to
I am starting to wonder if can make any argument without sounding like an uneducated, backwoods redneck.
I’ll try this one more time PCD, and I don’t want any of your cronies to answer for you.
Now that I’ve “cornered” you:
1. How would gay marriage directly affect your everyday life?
Whats this about fleeing from direct questions?????
DID YOU NOT READ THIS PCD?
36, you are a dysfunctional liberal, KEO. Nothing can be explained to you as you do not accept any answers that do not already reside between your ears
Again, PCD, I implore you to look back at YOUR archived posts and REALIZE that what you’ve explained above is YOU. If you really cannot see that, you are incredibly hopeless.
Am I wrong? Man up and answer this question accurately.